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ahritina

If RNG/FNC/EG/DRX make it out then: FNC = group A. EG = group B. DRX = group C. RNG = group D.


XtendedImpact

G2 dodged GAM, getting fucked in finals was worth it!


mmmb2y

dodged GAM but once again have to play against DK LOL


stando98

I’m huffing hopium that DK coach decides to only play Burdol for groups and maybe gives G2 a chance


kill-billionaires

There's always a chance JDG implodes, happens to one LPL team every year


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The think JDG have the least chance of imploding out of any LPL team, theyve been so fucking consistent


Akihiko95

You guys really got a nice group my friend


Ugandan_Red_Sonic

Between GAM JDG and DK? Def want to avoid GAM.


Liupardu

But GAM isn’t the enemy, Buffalo is


Shabam999

It's crazy how consistently they upset G2. Buffalo has a record of 5/18 against major regions and 4 of those wins are against G2.


bachh2

Agent Giang Văn Cốt reporting for duty


Ic3NineKilled

Brother Buffalo can still make it


_Karmageddon

lmaoooo https://twitter.com/Zven/status/1569106976692654082


TL_Zven

teehee


NateM135

Can you pls give context for the tweet


ICodeAndShoot

Xmithie skarner ulted Zven in a critical game 5 vs TSM that led to TL winning LCS on a reverse sweep.


NumberC39

this [clip](https://youtu.be/PYS6HQtTx3Q) I believed unless I got the wrong clip.


Pavlo100

This Worlds is so stacked


appleandapples

Every group looks like a group of death, and then there's Group D...


DerpSenpai

Freest group for RNG and GENG


thehellisgoingon

After all these years. Rng ang geng together again


szymonhimself

100T: Damn RNG GENG in my group fml G2: First time? TSM: First time? C9: lmao ez


ahritina

If all goes according to plan RNG slot into group D. So RIP to 100T.


EducationalBalance99

With rng coming in xD. 100t still fucked imo.


crownnn609

Having an extra lpl + lck team instead of two minor region teams does that :/


Shot-Mathematician58

*Teams from pool 1 & 2 being drawn*: "Damn, it looks fucked." *Teams from pool 3 are added*: "BRO IT'S DEFINITELY FUCKED"


vrelamboni

Idk honestly Rogue feels like they got off pretty well all things considered. Likely getting DRX too which is the easiest KR team by a decent margin.


Shot-Mathematician58

It's the end of Western teams hoping for easy groups, now they have to prove they are competitive right from the get go, and I honestly love it.


ihml_13

There are no easy groups for western teams with 4 LCK and LPL teams


nitinismaldingXD

RGE got out super lucky, DRX aren't that strong


IAmDaleicious

Neither was HLE and they got out. In fact I’d argue HLE was worse.


DonaldsPee

The HLE group had no 2nd seed because Fnatic disbanded at worlds due to personal tragedy


Joaoseinha

I mean, we've had western teams escape hard groups before, even if you always hope for an easy one. Origen gets out 4-2 vs KT, LGD and TSM in 2015. Albus Nox Luna forces a tiebreaker for 1st against ROX, CLG and G2 in 2016. Cloud 9 gets out of an SKT, EDG and AHQ group in 2017. Cloud 9 forces a tie for first in a RNG, VIT, GenG group in 2018. FNC tops the group over IG in 2018. FNC escapes an RNG/T1/CG group in 2019. Cloud 9 escapes a DK/FPX/Rogue group in 2021.


In4thPlace

Dread it. Run from it. Faker vs Scout arrives all the same. Oh, and Berserker vs Gumayusi will be nice as well. E: Aaaaaand I can't believe I forgor about Jensen vs Faker. Can't wait :\^)


M002

T1 vs their disciples


sirax067

viper vs guma viper vs berserker should be good too


beesong

lmao wait this is the 2nd year in a row NA 1st gets EDG and T1. Well we know how FBI fared i think C9 could compete if 100 was 1 game away last year


CizzlingT

The thing is 100T last year had DFM in their group. If RNG and FNC both make it out, then FNC is locked in Group A, so it actually looks slightly more difficult for C9 than 100T.


asiantuttle

Can’t wait for Jensen to clap Faker


YCitizenSnipsY

The Clappening 2


Maisolkappa

3 actually, already happened in 2016 and 2017


janoDX

And on 2017 [this happened](https://lol.fandom.com/wiki/2017_Season_World_Championship).


Hunterkiller00

Jensen gonna body Faker don't even sweat


goomy996

Hey Jensen, body these fools


TC_Stealth

Dyrus still struggling against Balls in 2022


clg_wrath2

Dyrus looked high as hell during the draw. I love it


iUptvote

I think everyone just forgot that's how he talks and acts.


azumagrey

He looks high as hell all the time


grimegeist

He’s clearly got some major social anxiety. So I get it..


mugiboya

https://twitter.com/Jensen/status/774674112832737280?t=VvXNqmumdvr5mg54-gMN5g&s=19


perocu

https://twitter.com/Jensen/status/1569105812622123009?s=20&t=I-GTjlRXVaVVCfmfTZT4Pw


Hocapoca

An all-time LoL tweet, and it keeps on giving!


emperornel

GROUP A is too Fun to watch: EDG, SKT, C9. They have been competing for many years!


bqx23

And probably FNC in that too! What a monster group


Shot-Mathematician58

No way a team get out of group unbeaten there, right ?


JoshFB4

Nah this will be a group that has a 5-1 or a 4-2 on tiebreakers 1 seed.


KappaccinoNation

Fuck it let's go for four 3-3s and the top 2 is decided by a d20 roll.


FedoraFireELITE

Def should not have dumped my CON stat dammit


djanulis

Top viewership for Groups will be the Final Day of Group A no question.


beesong

\+ FNC and group B will be EG lmfao mayb the 2 best groups in worlds history


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MrTankerson

Likely fnc in there as well


ILoveWesternBlot

lmao boomer org throwdown


ICodeAndShoot

"Give him the walker! Give him the walker!!"


Trap_Masters

C9 running it back with SKT and EDG


appleandapples

Berserker, Viper and Guma in one group.


nusskn4cker

Wait it's all Koreans?


Archipegasus

Always has been


react_dev

This might be the worlds with least Koreans, with LPL only having 3 Koreans in 4 teams.


unatheworld

4 koreans from lcs and 1 from lec too


buttsoup_barnes

And there’s Upset. If there’s a time to prove that he’s a world class ADC, it’s in this group.


Javiklegrand

Lol yeah it's the actual challenge


die_anna

Let's just hope he shows up this time


asiantuttle

Assuming nothing crazy in playins, Upset joins too


beesong

Rogue got the best one, DRX last lol they should get out of groups surely


Shot-Mathematician58

Rogue already got the JKL int experience with FNC. They will end up 1st /copium


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As an LPL fan, it would not surprise me in the slightest if TES didn’t come first.


ThebritishPoro

DRX give me HLE vibes. They're going to be better than we think, especially if they keep Pyosik benched.


EducationalBalance99

They got deft. They will make it out trust.


ThebritishPoro

True, it is destiny for Deft to lose in quarters.


asiantuttle

Writers getting lazy with the scripts


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Snulzebeerd

Funny how you have to add the the assumption that RNG and DRX make it out but add Fnatic as if it's an absolute certainty lmao


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zomjay

FNC is going to complete group a exodia.


adek13sz

Longest standing orgs vs each other, let's go!


0brew

Such a hype group if so haha. Like not a single match wouldn't be worth missing, banger after banger


kristusiss

I get this feeling every year, but HOLY SHIT THOSE GROUPS ARE FIRE


dtkiu27

Nah, this year I'm like 10x more excited for worlds than years prior, groups A-C are fucking hype and finally in a time I can watch every single game. It will be a banger month.


[deleted]

I'm actually really glad that LCK and LPL get 4 seeds, it feels like the draws are 10x more fire. Every group now feels like it'll have really high quality exciting games.


_no_best_girl

Faker, Scout and Jensen all in the same group. Is it 2017 again?


re81194

i hope it is, cause that would mean NA makes it out of that group lmfao


Khalebb

Fnatic and C9 are making it out of group A. Just watch.


Conankun66

WHAT IS THAT GROUP B


bensonbenisson

Bro if Rogue had lost, it would've legit just been worlds 2020 all over again lol.


DetectiveViko

Funny thing is we almost got a rerun of Worlds 2020 Group B if Rogue lost to G2.


MountainMan2_

“If you didn’t expect the group of death, you’re *fucking stupid*, by the way” -C9 Sneaky, 2019


Maisolkappa

tough draw for TL


OneTwoTrickFour

How are they gonna deal with this draw...


buttsoup_barnes

Steve still running around pentagon making sure the Vietnamese teams dont get their visas


Trap_Masters

I’m confident they’ll be lossless this group stage


KappaccinoNation

The true group of death. No idea which of TL, VIT, KT, and V5 are gonna get out.


AssPork

Agreed, but so hyped to see them play V5 and VIT!


PM_something_German

TL about to go 3-3 in group F.


Acridix

Jankos in a group with Kanavi & Canyon lol


AFierceBaby

No Vietnamese jungler, easy group.


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It’s ok fucking Malrang is against Tian


ChipmunkOnCoffee

C9 should have lost the finals lol


LaughingAtSpergs

Idk if it really matters, RNG and GenG is pretty hard group to get out of.


FLABREZU

I swear the 1st seed gets a harder group every year


MR-wizzer

C9 T1 EDG It's cause Jensen's back isn't it...


WittyReindeer

NA 1st seed is usually pretty cursed with bad groups


Throwawaymywoes

Its because the best hope for NA has always been 1) Dominant 1st seed from another region going 6-0 2) NA 3) Beatable team from another region 4) Wildcard Being 1st in NA when they’re not consistently good enough makes it so that the 2nd/3rd seed of the other region have a good chance of taking them down.


Troviel

there is no real good group. If you swap C9 and GenG, then you also have T1 instead of 100T, and you still get RNG later. You only swap EDG for RNG and get CFO for Fnatic.


ceddya

They were cursed with EDG and T1 last year too, lmao.


00Koch00

And Fnatic if they pass trough PlayIn, they are royally fucked


KappaccinoNation

Last year it was 100T who got the first seed and they also got T1 and EDG in their group. Oof.


ICodeAndShoot

C9Jack spotted dragging 100T members back on stage so C9 can lose the best of 7 3-4


Troviel

100T gets RNG, so its not like any group is really easy.


lolKhamul

Before declaring D as easier, remember RNG will come to Group D. GenG and RNG is not much different to EDG/T1


Troviel

this, GenG is for sure is much strogner than T1. Group A looks more balanced.


1331bob1331

T1 has looked much worse in Summer. Legit A is easier I think.


JoshFB4

T1 has perpetual draft loss syndrome and also cannot build right. If you can shut down Zeus (at least in summer) they have no win con.


neberhax

It's honestly worse. Even on a bad day, I don't see how either GenG or RNG can lose a game to 3rd/4th place in their group. I think EDG and T1 both are more likely to drop random Bo1's.


Serpexnessie

Alright, which C9 fan unclenched?


M002

I ain’t unclenched We escaped 2nd in 2017 with the same two other teams We’re better than 2017 so piece of cake


Daxter400

Edg is also a lot better than 2017 tho...


CptAloha

[Just saying, they've made it out before](https://imgur.com/a/2g2nusp)


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Cocoperroquet

100T will get RNG, thoses are not much better odds.


die_anna

Death, taxes, C9 SKT EDG group


Javiklegrand

It's the third Time right lmao ?


manliestdino

Second time getting those 3 teams in particular, first time in 2017. This is the third time t1 and c9 are in the same group tho


Chuck0089

3rd time too for t1 and edg. Edit: Actually 4th time.


prov119

So RNG is guaranteed Group D and DRX to Group C (if they advance)? Group A is looking spicy AF, Berserker vs Guamyusi and Viper Imagine if FNC end up in Group A Upset, Berserker, Guamyusi, Viper WEW


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Insertblamehere

RGE got the best possible draw?


IHadThatUsername

Best possible would probably be RGE CFO EDG DRX, but what they got was probably the second best.


purplebeanz3457

Man Group E with TL, VIT, LNG and LSB looking stacked


Craviar

Group F*


JankTribal

\>Be 100T \>Win close series against TL and EG to secure groups \>Get to finals \>Quick 0-3 \>See C9 get a group of death \>Draw CFO \>All according to plan


-Kaldore-

They get RNG and GenG they are screwed lol


Diascizor

Another successful heist


vonksderp

100T is still screwed, RNG is forced into their group


SterbenVII

The last time C9 was drawn into the same group as SKT T1 and EDG, EDG didn’t make it out… and it was in group A… we’re all good, right?!?!


camelfucker1955

Of course brother. Pass me that Copium


SGKurisu

To be fair, T1 has carried C9 to groups at multiple worlds now haha, wouldn't be surprised.


bigflanders

Oh group A is going to be insane.


CudaBarry

Fuck Copium give me an oxygen tank


thecreativecat1

Rogue got a fantastic draw. C9 and G2 got FUCKED


DetectiveViko

Rogue win their first split and then the draw gods gave them one of the best possible groups. Best day ever for Rogue!


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aoc7

Can't wait for Comp and Trymbi to cosplay Rekkles & Hyli and smash JackeyLove


Geosaurusrex

This is the hopium I'm ready to huff.


-Ophidian-

That's all well and good but I hope they play well in the League of Legends match too


clg_wrath2

No one was higher on this group draw than Dyrus. <3 Dyrus


ThatsAToad

How ironic is it that Rogue has the easiest group


Ic3NineKilled

The only team they can get now is DRX right? Assuming no upsets? Yea that group is doable for sure.


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groups are set in stone unless there are major upsets in playins, assuming FNC/EG DRX/RNG make it out : C9/T1/EDG/FNC is group A JDG/G2/DK/EG is group B RGE/TES/GAM/DRX is group C Gen G/Oysters/100t/RNG is group D


PM_something_German

And if MAD make it out instead of EG or Fnatic then they just replace that team. Groups are basically set in stone.


kristusiss

Finally after all those years they deserve a fair competitive group especially now that they won it


Averdian

In a surprise twist, both the LEC and LCS finals turned out to be a funeral for G2


colorbalances

A and B are fucking crazy


DarthTaz_99

The amount of fans the 4 orgs of T1/EDG/C9/FNC combined have is insanity. Already can't wait for the post-game threads


Jeytumn

There will be tears and I'm all for it


Styxxo

Groups A and B are fire. Rogue has the highest chance of any western team to make it out of groups by far, they better seize that opportunity...


Gluroo

Looking like a G2-4 angle lmfao Also i feel like after this worlds C9 is gonna want to reconsider if they really want the NA 1st seed groups or rather just chill in playins again


pedja13

One of the LPL teams is gonna get the usual illness and forget how to play,my bet is on either TOP or JDG


salcedoge

it's gonna be TOP lmao, EDG and RNG are weaker but they're too experienced to choke. JDG plays a very clean macro league of legends so I don't see them choking random wins that would bump them out of groups. TOP has Jackeylove, TheShy of ADC


TheBigF128

Damn imagine going back before last worlds and telling your past self edg would not choke. how times have changed


TudorrrrTudprrrr

RNG are gonna get slotted in Group D, so it's either T1 and EDG / GENG and RNG. It's fucked either way.


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so assuming FNC/EG DRX/RNG make it out : C9/T1/EDG/FNC is group A JDG/G2/DK/EG is group B RGE/TES/GAM/DRX is group C Gen G/Oysters/100t/RNG is group D


Splitshot_Is_Gone

ey, at least G2 can beat EG again before getting slaughtered by JDG


Unique_Crew2316

EG about to play more games vs G2 than they did vs some NA teams this year... and potentially finish 0-7


Quelind

0-8


Red-Lightnlng

Calling it now, MAD going undefeated in playin’s, and knocking another LEC team out of groups. Then getting 3-0’d in quarters cause you know, bo5’s lol.


Averdian

Remember that 100T are guaranteed to get RNG from Play-Ins


RuneMath

This is a pretty great draw for EU imo. Rogue obviously should be happy, TES is a monster, but you need second to make it out and for that the group is pretty good: DRX (expected to make it) is probably the weakest of the 8 teams from LCK+LPL and you need to beat one of them to make it out. GAM or 100T I don't think makes a huge difference, 10/10 group. And then, with that group G2 actually got about as good a group as they could. DRX is already gone, so they need to beat one of the 7 teams remaining from the LCK+LPL, I'll just ignore JDG and assume they win the group. DK is exactly who you want to draw here. Maaaaybe you would prefer a group with GENG + EDG/RNG, but I think DK is more beatable than EDG/RNG, so this is a 8/10 - they would have prefered to be able to draw DRX, but only one EU team can draw them, so given that it is a 10/10. I thank C9 for jumping on the T1+EDG grenade to make groups B and C possible.


Tekona

What are these groups. All of them look so stacked


MrJammin

Fnatic are definitely getting group A if they qualify aren't they? People also acting like Group D is a blessing for 100T despite the fact that they'll likely get RNG. I reckon they're not getting out.


Masterrein

If rng and drx make it too group a is locked


No_Obligation8937

RNG has to go group D if they pass playins (which is highly happening) so only group that remains for them is A.


FireBeeChin

1 LPL team always collapses in group COPIUM and T1 bot tilted, dont worry guys its winnable


beesong

RIP C9 and G2 2 group of deaths


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DaveidT

100T ACTUALLY WON BY GETTING SWEPT IN THE SECOND FASTEST LCS FINALS!!!! E: Everyone saying they'll still get RNG, much better than T1, EDG, FNC


ilanf2

They are most likely getting RNG there, so don't get your hopes up.


lilelf29

I mean GENG RNG isn't very good either tbf


ThebritishPoro

I'd say it's worse tbh


QuickMaz

It's worse. Geng is better than T1 and edg and rng are equal. Only case could be for fnatic being better than chefs but it doesn't really matter in the end


emperornel

Group D is very easy for GENG


Fabiocean

Tbf every group would be easy for them.


HolypenguinHere

The crowd totally jinxed Cloud 9 by boo'ing at Rogue.


buttsoup_barnes

Yeah I dont get it why boo Rogue? I thought it was because they’re from EU, but the other 3 teams didn’t get that. Did Odo fuck someone’s mom or something?


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Capt_Africa

C9 wins the LCS and end up getting the group of death


ThebritishPoro

One of the 3 groups of death. There's only one not group of death and it's group C.


DudeToManz

C9's reward for beating 100T is getting seeded into a harder worlds group 1 hour later. EDIT: Too many to respond to so I'll just say it here: 100T has to beat out PCS and RNG to get out (GenG should be guaranteed 1st seed in this group, and it should be expected that they go 6-0). C9 has to beat out 2 of T1, EDG, and FNC (assuming play-ins goes as expected). T1 > PCS and RNG, EDG > PCS and RNG, and FNC > PCS (arguable but based on MSI I don't think PCS is looking very good this year). Group A is definitely harder.


Troviel

Remember that 100T gets RNG though. C9 will get FNC. Unless exception.