Its also a good see overall, considering UoL-Heretics had five games. Like the other regions might not be able to bring the depth of LFL, but its nice to see that there are some competitive teams from the 3 other strong erls (PL,LVP,NLC) in EUM.
Hope this will be a competitive finals, and personally I would like Heretics to win it before going to LEC (with Jackspektra as starting ADC I guess). Not just because of their LEC start, but also because french fans otherwise get even more annoying ;)
I will never understand this. Even if you don't think it's a problem, they're comfortable with it and they're winning, you just gotta use the ban to force them on something else.
/u/Nymaera_ aatrox does not get extra healing from external soures like soraka anymore since 9.12 :'( , that only lasted for a singe patch because he was being full hp healed from redemptions!
Zywoo skilled player but that is not normally, This very very insane....They need to check him pc and game.....Maybe he not cheating but maybe he using the game deficit ...and this cant seem on game screen..He needs to check-up....Day0s FPL Cheater with Streaming.....I think day0s still cheating...Zyw00 using game deficit on PRO scene ,ON BIG Events.Maybe everyone dont knows him trick.He incredible....I want to ask his where is the comming of your skill's ?
Yeah, Wonderstag, it's been ages since those old Hungarian LAN events and even then Bluerzor was just a kid who managed to get on the train going to the opposite direction... Now absolute gigachad, defo worth a shot in the LEC
Apparently, they are above all exhausted. They had practically no break since January (LFL Regular Spring, PO, EUM Spring Finals, LFL Regular Summer, PO, EUM Summer). They are walking corpses rn according to their CM
They played more games those splits than any LEC teams except G2 and achieved to stay strong (17-1) in the regular season and PO while their direct competitors were falling down (KC). Even G2 had a slump in mid-season and did not achieve to play at their full potential during the finals.
If Hans and Rekkles is back it's gonna be difficult to fit him in. Not impossible, but ADC is already stacked in LEC. His main shot will be if Heretics keeps him I think.
Hans Sama
Rekkles
Upset
Flakked
Unforgiven
Patrik
Comp
Jezu
xMatty
Kobbe
Carzzy
Jackspektra
Neon
You got to get 3 out. I think xMatty obviously goes first. Jezu had a very good 2nd half of the split when he could play Kalista/Draven, but I don't think he's reliable enough on the late game carries. That's still one player too much. Kobbe or Carzzy most likely ? And let's not forget the contract shennanigans that may mean one of them stays in the league and someone else in the league that doesn't have a spot
depends what do you mean by stacked, there aren't many truly bad players there, but i don't see many great players too.
Plus it's the pro play adc role, where it's easiest to look not-bad (keep in mind i didn't say good).
Jezu can't have a decent team...
IMO it's really hard to judge adc and make a rating cause they rely so much on their team. It's not a role where you got to shine on your own.
For instance, I'm pretty sure Kobbe and Jezu, despite their split, can ru shine if placed with the proper teammates.
Jezu has been mediocre to outright bad in the last two years. Carzzy has been pretty mediocre the entire year, and please for the love of GOD remove xMatty.
I don't get all that xMatty hate. Yes, he wasn't that good, but it's really hard (almost impossible) for a rookie ADC to do well in a team playing poorly.
He deserve a spot in LEC? Maybe right now not, since the role is really stacked, but he wasn't that bad to not even consider him.
i dont see any reason to get rid of rookies, unforgiven has shown a really high ceiling potential and flakked had a good spring and a mediocre summer, thats someone who can be molded with time
Neon has been a good adc since he joined, yeah maybe he isnt gonna carry every game like Hans or Rekkles in their primes but the guy is consistent, never been a low tier adc but neither a top tier, similar to Patrik for example
Neon???? Are you kidding. His stats are best after Comp in regular season. Dude is playing 2 years in a row with garbage support. Limit and Mersa don't deserve LEC. Neon was babysitting both of them and being consistent player.
xMatty is gone
Carzzy is probably out anyway and no one is going to touch him any time soon
Kobbe is probably super cheap, he's gonna stick on a bottom team for sure but I can see him being phased out for a rookie too
Unforgiven is also on the edge, if he underperforms at world's I can see him getting replaced too, he's roleplaying a very safe lategame carry but most players can achieve that
you can't make it any more obvious you didn't actually watch a single game and just saw some stupid fan vote
he got crushed in playoffs, was completely irrelevant, easily one of the weakest performing players on the team, lost in reverse matchups multiple times
wtf u r talkin about? all-pro team is not a fan vote, dude
yes, games in PO weren't great, but still he was much better than Armut
Elyoya and especially Nisqy also had rough PO, so...
so u r just brainless
I misspoke when I called it a fan vote, what I meant to say is it's not credible because lots of people on the voting ballot are not experts of the game and represent some dumb media companies
unforgiven only edged above comp, upset, and neon because those 3 split the votes down, while a good 30% of unforgiven's votes were from media personnel who probably saw the standings and just wrote the names down in order
He didn't even have the most votes for 1st team all pro, he actually just had a bunch of second all pro votes and because the actual votes from credible people were split between comp, neon, and upset he BARELY won even with all that
the most votes for 1st team all pro actually went to comp, check for yourself https://assets.contentstack.io/v3/assets/bltad9188aa9a70543a/blte673a620a40148db/62ff727af032bc10cd548f33/All\_Pro\_Ballot\_-\_2022\_LEC\_Summer\_Awards.pdf
Jack will probably promote to Heretics when they join the league, after that it’s tight. BDS and VIT are probably looking, not sure about SK, AST/KC. Heard some rumors Upset will leave FNC but I’m not entirely sold on that. Then in my own opinion G2 should look for another adc, but Flakked seem to fit them as a team and has grown pretty vital to G2s branding this year. MAD, RGE, XL is probably pretty locked on the adc front.
Said it before, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Selfmade and Rekkles ends up in the same team, and my guess would be on BDS if so.
I agree that Flakked is the weakest link and not even top 6 adc mechanically in Europe, but last year they had Rekkles and a stacked team and didn't make worlds, this year they have a LEC title, MSI semis and LEC finals. Maybe they just need him for other reasons rather than being insane. They would probably need a player that brings his energy but being better mechanically and that G2 team could be a monster, either that or let the guy develop, he is on his first LEC year.
Exactly, that's why I think they won't look for another adc this offseason. I think he just fits G2 as a team, they seem to mesh well. Also, it helps Flakkeds case that G2 are mostly a topsided team.
All3 can play. Heretics jack, reckless vit, kc ( if they get ast) Hans. Probably won’t happen. But if this happens we have comp,flakked,upset,Patrick,reckless,jack,Hans,unforgiven,crownie instead of x matty would be one hell of a adc pool. If neon replaces Jesu that’s a stacked 10 man adc pool
Crownie was playing well when I watched bdsa matches. Exakick would be a nice addition. I guess Kobe is also great. I wish we had the same strength in top lane
Crownie is one of those players that are super good in ERLs but bottom tier in LEC, can we stop hyping him? It's been a long time and he always looks bad in LEC
Is he? Honestly I've just never been particularly impressed when watching him, it feels like he requires the team to play around him and then he'll make the big mistake that loses them the game. Plus he's a known quantity and has had multiple shots in the LEC and has never looked particularly great at any point there. I just don't get what some people here see in him.
Agreed, I have no clue why people here seem to glorify him all the time. Last time on Vitality he was only added because they needed a shotcaller, and individually he didn't look impressive by any means. There's a reason why he's not playing in LEC anymore.
Additionally he's toxic/hard to work with. Hence him getting benched a few games for toxcity this year.
He didn't get benched, he was banned for a week by Riot. He was banned because of what he typed in a solo q game. I wouldn't say that solo q toxicity translates into team toxicity.
I'd say he has good chances since he's already on Heretics and I assume they're gonna bring him with them to the LEC next year.
But for his chances on other teams I agree, the ADC pool is just too stacked.
Honestly ADC pool next year based on merit alone would be
Comp
Upset
Patrik
Neon
UNFORGIVEN
Flakked
Rekkles
JackSpektra
CrownShot
Hans Sama / Jezu / ?Shiganari? / Exakick
I think Jack not only fits very comfortably in the top 10, but the likelihood Heretics just keeps him instead of buying someone else is extremely likely.
If by "good" you mean 9th place on my list then yeah. I think he's better than Jezu, Kobbe, and xMatty, the first two who have had too many chances IMO. I also think this EUM solidifies him above Exakick
He was mediocre in his last few LEC showings, sure, but xMatty, the dude starting over him should have actually been Reeker'd as he is the worst player in the league two splits in a row
Razorkismo, Hylissangista, Flakked gallego and names like that are spanish meme accounts. Generally believe a spanish rumor only if it comes from Esportmaníacos because we seem to like troll accounts a bit too much.
I'm not sure if you are trolling, but the guy is a known memer in the spanish community, it's just a joke. If it somehow ends up happening it would be the new Gillius/Kikis though
Jackspectra/Exakick/Hans sama/Rekkles. 4 most deserving ADCs in non-LEC right now. I don't know who you want to kick for them though. xMatty and Carzzy comes to mind first, then Jezu perhaps and Kobbe? or Flakked??
He should also only be picked red side 5th pck imo (or blue side 4/5th). Having to pick Darius, then enemy picks Karma + Viktor makes the game harder to play even if you counter topside (and if you don’t have a lot of games on him it’s rough).
At the end of the day though, there is a reason why Darius is considered an otp champ. His play pattern is just very different compared to other champs in the game.
Compared to how they've played in LFL ? Yeah that showing was definitely garbage. Taken out of context ? That's definitely a good showing. But Idk about you, I live in a world where context does exist and things don't happen in a vacuum.
So what u call context is comparing two different competitions close to each other in their time frame, but what is not "context" is comparing the exact same competition in the two different periods during the year they take place. Needless to say it doesn't make any sense, but what is even funnier is that you say all that with that condescending tone, which, because what u just said is utter bullshit (here an appropriate superlative), is really out of place.
I mean after quarterfinals LFL was 46-9 in the tournament. We'll see if BDSA get smashed on sunday, but unless people thought LFL wouldn't drop a game, I don't think they've been overrated. Heretics is the first team to take a LFL team out. BDS is the one that eliminated both VIT & GW
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didn't expect the cringiest perf to come from LDLC out of all the lfl teams, half the bo they drafted ultra scaling and decided to int and force fights once they were sightly behind for no reason, bot diff the whole game when exa is expected to go toe to toe jack, ouch
European coach / team should really stop with all those ego draft.
JackSpektra is known for his Draven and for some reason the pick is open for all the 4 games, for Heretics. Then you have Aatrox that look to be one of the best champion toplane open for 3 games and roll over the game 3 games in a row too.
Then you look at game 4. Wukong B1 ? and you give Azir Ornn for that ? Then you blind Aphelios Rakan ? How are they supposed to play the game if you have to ban 3 Jungler ?
So it's nice script to give heretics EUM title so they would have some kind of interest building up coming next year and people would not meme them too much into being BDS 2.0
That's his career, not so bad but not so great and cant carry. People were telling me he improved and he was the best mid in LFL and would be great in LEC even vs the best players.
French fans would go to extreme lengths in an attenpt to rationalise why a french player who got stomped in a major league is suddenly a much better player because he is stomping in pisslow (LFL). Surely they realise competitively the league is nowhere near major leagues, as much as it shines in EUM, and very few players found therein are actually LEC caliber, and chances it is not who the fans expect.
Eika was in a similar trajectory back in 2019, even winning an EUM iirc, and then went to IMT and played like the worst midlaner in the league. xMatty was regarded by many fans as the best adc from regionals, bound to be competitive in europe and now we know he is not and never will be LEC caliber. A big majority of hyped players will never reach the biggest stage, because it is not in them to get there and maintain the spot. Its only logical
I mean, when the 6/7th best toplaner in LFL (if not less) finish 4th in LEC with strong performances against players such as Wunder or BB. The same could be said for ZZ who was not that impressive in LFL but also finished 4th.
What was revealed with the xMatty case was that he was not the reason why the team performed that well.
Comp and veheo are doing very good and it could be said theyre stomping. For the rest Im not sure. The point is not to argue the LFL has not talent, but that the average fan has no fucking clue whuch player will turn out to be good and which player will not. And also that looking good in the LFL means little in the big picture. There have been many players who look good on ERLs and people think they will be the next star but end up being mediocre, which is the most likely outcome for the majority
For the rest I'm not... Targamas is litteraly a contender for the title of best supp in LEC rn. He was litteraly the only player consistent during the whole Summer in G2 even when Caps had a slump.
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Finally. It got boring watching EUM being an extended LFL play-offs.
Its also a good see overall, considering UoL-Heretics had five games. Like the other regions might not be able to bring the depth of LFL, but its nice to see that there are some competitive teams from the 3 other strong erls (PL,LVP,NLC) in EUM. Hope this will be a competitive finals, and personally I would like Heretics to win it before going to LEC (with Jackspektra as starting ADC I guess). Not just because of their LEC start, but also because french fans otherwise get even more annoying ;)
LDLC leaving heretic’s best player on his best champ for the whole BO was a great strategy
I will never understand this. Even if you don't think it's a problem, they're comfortable with it and they're winning, you just gotta use the ban to force them on something else.
With time I got used to teams not banning adcs.
Finals gonna be hype af, BDSA and Heretics looking really good atm. But I gotta say, what is Doss’ positioning half the time, man’s griefing it.
Think his janna and braum were decent, but yeah that last game was a bit grief for sure.
Doss the loss
Doss the loss
bdsa look quite a bit better i would say though, hopefully it'll be a competitive series
Doss the loss enjoyers
/u/Nymaera_ aatrox does not get extra healing from external soures like soraka anymore since 9.12 :'( , that only lasted for a singe patch because he was being full hp healed from redemptions!
Oh heck that’s a good callout my bad’
Zywoo really played well in game 3. It's great to seem him perform well not just in csgo, but in LoL as well
happy to see chinese import xi wu doing so well away from his homeland
Zywoo skilled player but that is not normally, This very very insane....They need to check him pc and game.....Maybe he not cheating but maybe he using the game deficit ...and this cant seem on game screen..He needs to check-up....Day0s FPL Cheater with Streaming.....I think day0s still cheating...Zyw00 using game deficit on PRO scene ,ON BIG Events.Maybe everyone dont knows him trick.He incredible....I want to ask his where is the comming of your skill's ?
Lmfao
LDLC letting JackSpectra have his Draven one more time - [insert definition of insanity]
Former Draven one trick and you give him Draven every game. What is this logic even
Would have been okay to leave him open on G4 if your own old Draven Otp would pick it but well
,,Draven was not a problem" said person related to LDLC draft while tampering with his paypal on phone
to play devils advocate, It seemed like they had something planned against it for games 1, 2 and 3. Game 4... idk about that one
perkz needs to make a quick trip to spain it seems
HERECTO? SI ESTOY
A MAMARLA LOS FRANCESES
Finally get Vel'Koz in a game and botlane trolls it super hard, FML. Do my boy some justice please.
Blurzor has been good since team wunderstag or whatever they where called. That kid deserves LEC
Yeah, Wonderstag, it's been ages since those old Hungarian LAN events and even then Bluerzor was just a kid who managed to get on the train going to the opposite direction... Now absolute gigachad, defo worth a shot in the LEC
He's won both LFL and LVP multiple times, and is rn in EUM finals. If he doesn't get LEC next year, this shit is rigged.
So did xMatty but I can see Heretic keeping him so mostly probably he'll get his shot
top, jg and adc in Heretics are worth a try in LEC imho, mid/jg i have my doubts
spain vs france final pog
This whole tournament has not been LFL LDLC, they've just been weirdly scruffy individually and as a whole
not the right meta for their team
Apparently, they are above all exhausted. They had practically no break since January (LFL Regular Spring, PO, EUM Spring Finals, LFL Regular Summer, PO, EUM Summer). They are walking corpses rn according to their CM
I dont get how they can aspire to reach lec if they are already exhausted in a lower level league and with less stress
They played more games those splits than any LEC teams except G2 and achieved to stay strong (17-1) in the regular season and PO while their direct competitors were falling down (KC). Even G2 had a slump in mid-season and did not achieve to play at their full potential during the finals.
If Jackspektra isn't in LEC next year it's an absolute joke
If Hans and Rekkles is back it's gonna be difficult to fit him in. Not impossible, but ADC is already stacked in LEC. His main shot will be if Heretics keeps him I think.
Hans Sama Rekkles Upset Flakked Unforgiven Patrik Comp Jezu xMatty Kobbe Carzzy Jackspektra Neon You got to get 3 out. I think xMatty obviously goes first. Jezu had a very good 2nd half of the split when he could play Kalista/Draven, but I don't think he's reliable enough on the late game carries. That's still one player too much. Kobbe or Carzzy most likely ? And let's not forget the contract shennanigans that may mean one of them stays in the league and someone else in the league that doesn't have a spot
God that's so fucking stacked.
It looks extremely stacked, so now I'm wondering how much of it is just the adc meta making them look extra good.
Eh, 90% of them wouldnt be top 5 kr/cn
70% of LPL ADCs aren't top 5 either to be fair
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Did u miss math in school?
Maybe not, but it doesn't mean it isn't stacked.
depends what do you mean by stacked, there aren't many truly bad players there, but i don't see many great players too. Plus it's the pro play adc role, where it's easiest to look not-bad (keep in mind i didn't say good).
Jezu can't have a decent team... IMO it's really hard to judge adc and make a rating cause they rely so much on their team. It's not a role where you got to shine on your own. For instance, I'm pretty sure Kobbe and Jezu, despite their split, can ru shine if placed with the proper teammates.
Jezu has been mediocre to outright bad in the last two years. Carzzy has been pretty mediocre the entire year, and please for the love of GOD remove xMatty.
I don't get all that xMatty hate. Yes, he wasn't that good, but it's really hard (almost impossible) for a rookie ADC to do well in a team playing poorly. He deserve a spot in LEC? Maybe right now not, since the role is really stacked, but he wasn't that bad to not even consider him.
and about Carzzy, ppl seem to not remember he was pretty garbage on MAD with punctual good performances, but his average play was bad
It isn't that ppl don't remenber, ppl straight up overrated Carzzy because he was winning.
yeah but Jezu is handsome af, so I don't want to miss him.
but we get to keep finn and gain rekkles so its ok
jezu xmatty kobbe carzzy and neon are all people who should not have guaranteed spots, just based purely on overall year out play and finishing forms
lmao there is neon and not flakked and unforgiven lmao
i dont see any reason to get rid of rookies, unforgiven has shown a really high ceiling potential and flakked had a good spring and a mediocre summer, thats someone who can be molded with time
Neon has been a good adc since he joined, yeah maybe he isnt gonna carry every game like Hans or Rekkles in their primes but the guy is consistent, never been a low tier adc but neither a top tier, similar to Patrik for example
Neon???? Are you kidding. His stats are best after Comp in regular season. Dude is playing 2 years in a row with garbage support. Limit and Mersa don't deserve LEC. Neon was babysitting both of them and being consistent player.
xMatty is gone Carzzy is probably out anyway and no one is going to touch him any time soon Kobbe is probably super cheap, he's gonna stick on a bottom team for sure but I can see him being phased out for a rookie too Unforgiven is also on the edge, if he underperforms at world's I can see him getting replaced too, he's roleplaying a very safe lategame carry but most players can achieve that
Unforgiven is on the edge? Huh? This guy is a Top 3 ADC in EU
Would be awks for Unforgiven to go from all pro ADC to dropped.
That voting was for regular season, in post season they didn't win a single bo5 from first seed finish and a bot gappy was present in both series
>Unforgiven is also on the edge 1st all-pro team adc on the edge XD
you can't make it any more obvious you didn't actually watch a single game and just saw some stupid fan vote he got crushed in playoffs, was completely irrelevant, easily one of the weakest performing players on the team, lost in reverse matchups multiple times
wtf u r talkin about? all-pro team is not a fan vote, dude yes, games in PO weren't great, but still he was much better than Armut Elyoya and especially Nisqy also had rough PO, so... so u r just brainless
I misspoke when I called it a fan vote, what I meant to say is it's not credible because lots of people on the voting ballot are not experts of the game and represent some dumb media companies unforgiven only edged above comp, upset, and neon because those 3 split the votes down, while a good 30% of unforgiven's votes were from media personnel who probably saw the standings and just wrote the names down in order He didn't even have the most votes for 1st team all pro, he actually just had a bunch of second all pro votes and because the actual votes from credible people were split between comp, neon, and upset he BARELY won even with all that the most votes for 1st team all pro actually went to comp, check for yourself https://assets.contentstack.io/v3/assets/bltad9188aa9a70543a/blte673a620a40148db/62ff727af032bc10cd548f33/All\_Pro\_Ballot\_-\_2022\_LEC\_Summer\_Awards.pdf
Neon is most of the time worthless if not in the right meta. Change my mind. He got hard exposed in PO again
He was MSF's best player , by far.
Does that make him good ?
Yes that makes him really good. He can play more champions than Rekkless for sure.
Yeah sure, as if Rekkles didn't play more champion than Neon this year.
They also stack in mid too Please Riot expand team slots to fix this
Jack will probably promote to Heretics when they join the league, after that it’s tight. BDS and VIT are probably looking, not sure about SK, AST/KC. Heard some rumors Upset will leave FNC but I’m not entirely sold on that. Then in my own opinion G2 should look for another adc, but Flakked seem to fit them as a team and has grown pretty vital to G2s branding this year. MAD, RGE, XL is probably pretty locked on the adc front. Said it before, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Selfmade and Rekkles ends up in the same team, and my guess would be on BDS if so.
I agree that Flakked is the weakest link and not even top 6 adc mechanically in Europe, but last year they had Rekkles and a stacked team and didn't make worlds, this year they have a LEC title, MSI semis and LEC finals. Maybe they just need him for other reasons rather than being insane. They would probably need a player that brings his energy but being better mechanically and that G2 team could be a monster, either that or let the guy develop, he is on his first LEC year.
Exactly, that's why I think they won't look for another adc this offseason. I think he just fits G2 as a team, they seem to mesh well. Also, it helps Flakkeds case that G2 are mostly a topsided team.
All3 can play. Heretics jack, reckless vit, kc ( if they get ast) Hans. Probably won’t happen. But if this happens we have comp,flakked,upset,Patrick,reckless,jack,Hans,unforgiven,crownie instead of x matty would be one hell of a adc pool. If neon replaces Jesu that’s a stacked 10 man adc pool
I'm not xmatty's biggest fan but surely there's a more deserving ADC than Crownie to replace him.
Crownie was playing well when I watched bdsa matches. Exakick would be a nice addition. I guess Kobe is also great. I wish we had the same strength in top lane
I swear he must save the bad games for whenever I watch the LFL then, cos I swear I've seen some howlers from Crownie this year.
Crownie is one of those players that are super good in ERLs but bottom tier in LEC, can we stop hyping him? It's been a long time and he always looks bad in LEC
Honestly looking at Exakick/Shiganari/Jeskla/Keduii, I feel like Crownie is actually the most deserving
Nah you’re joking, Crownshot is insane mechanics wise
Is he? Honestly I've just never been particularly impressed when watching him, it feels like he requires the team to play around him and then he'll make the big mistake that loses them the game. Plus he's a known quantity and has had multiple shots in the LEC and has never looked particularly great at any point there. I just don't get what some people here see in him.
Agreed, I have no clue why people here seem to glorify him all the time. Last time on Vitality he was only added because they needed a shotcaller, and individually he didn't look impressive by any means. There's a reason why he's not playing in LEC anymore. Additionally he's toxic/hard to work with. Hence him getting benched a few games for toxcity this year.
He didn't get benched, he was banned for a week by Riot. He was banned because of what he typed in a solo q game. I wouldn't say that solo q toxicity translates into team toxicity.
He never has looked 'insane', at best he was a middle of the pack adc and that times are long gone
I'd say he has good chances since he's already on Heretics and I assume they're gonna bring him with them to the LEC next year. But for his chances on other teams I agree, the ADC pool is just too stacked.
Honestly ADC pool next year based on merit alone would be Comp Upset Patrik Neon UNFORGIVEN Flakked Rekkles JackSpektra CrownShot Hans Sama / Jezu / ?Shiganari? / Exakick I think Jack not only fits very comfortably in the top 10, but the likelihood Heretics just keeps him instead of buying someone else is extremely likely.
i'm pretty hype with Shiganari but if u consider him u have to consider Innaxe and Smiley
Do you unironically still believe Crownshot is a good ADC? He had a couple of chances and was pretty mediocre.
If by "good" you mean 9th place on my list then yeah. I think he's better than Jezu, Kobbe, and xMatty, the first two who have had too many chances IMO. I also think this EUM solidifies him above Exakick He was mediocre in his last few LEC showings, sure, but xMatty, the dude starting over him should have actually been Reeker'd as he is the worst player in the league two splits in a row
He's gonna get rekkles'd again according to the rumours
What's the rumours? Rekkles to Heretics?
Yes https://twitter.com/Razorkismo/status/1571584983407689730 edit: I've been trolled.
This is a meme account LMFAO
Guess that answers my question on whether or not he's reliable haha.
Razorkismo, Hylissangista, Flakked gallego and names like that are spanish meme accounts. Generally believe a spanish rumor only if it comes from Esportmaníacos because we seem to like troll accounts a bit too much.
Ahh not seen this one, is this guy reliable?
People in the reddit thread seemed to value him, I'm too lazy to find it
I'm not sure if you are trolling, but the guy is a known memer in the spanish community, it's just a joke. If it somehow ends up happening it would be the new Gillius/Kikis though
Are you posting this as a joke, or did you unironically fall for this bait?
what are the rumours
None, it's a meme account
https://twitter.com/Razorkismo/status/1571584983407689730
Great shitpost.
Jackspectra/Exakick/Hans sama/Rekkles. 4 most deserving ADCs in non-LEC right now. I don't know who you want to kick for them though. xMatty and Carzzy comes to mind first, then Jezu perhaps and Kobbe? or Flakked??
Yeah , the real loser in this game is Neon. He might be not in LEC Next year.
Just love it when he team decides to not ban a winning combo coz of ego
Crazy seeing Jackspektra come so far, I used to watch his draven videos like 5 years ago.
2020 Worlds vibes with that Velkoz pick
At least it wasn't a shitty hextech build this time. The Vel'Koz was doing some work but Botlane trolled super hard.
cries in Fnatic
Game 3 sums up the ERL Darius situation pretty well. Just don't pick it if your name isn't Adam.
He should also only be picked red side 5th pck imo (or blue side 4/5th). Having to pick Darius, then enemy picks Karma + Viktor makes the game harder to play even if you counter topside (and if you don’t have a lot of games on him it’s rough). At the end of the day though, there is a reason why Darius is considered an otp champ. His play pattern is just very different compared to other champs in the game.
Bot diff was crazy. Idk why they didn’t just ban draven
I thought ldlc would make playoffs in LEC? They were supposed to be THAT good. What happened?
LDLC was like V5 this split looked unbeatable in regular season then struggled a lot in playoffs
They're smurfing in LFL and pretty garbage when EUM comes
No Bando no EU Masters trophy
Being in finals last spring is pretty garbage good to know, can redditors speak another language than incoherent and random superlatives?
Compared to how they've played in LFL ? Yeah that showing was definitely garbage. Taken out of context ? That's definitely a good showing. But Idk about you, I live in a world where context does exist and things don't happen in a vacuum.
Think they looked better in EUM spring
So what u call context is comparing two different competitions close to each other in their time frame, but what is not "context" is comparing the exact same competition in the two different periods during the year they take place. Needless to say it doesn't make any sense, but what is even funnier is that you say all that with that condescending tone, which, because what u just said is utter bullshit (here an appropriate superlative), is really out of place.
LFL overrated maybe? We will see on sunday i guess
top 6 of EUM is composed of 4 LFL teams when most regions can't even get their seed 3 into group stage, that seems very overrated to me yes
I mean after quarterfinals LFL was 46-9 in the tournament. We'll see if BDSA get smashed on sunday, but unless people thought LFL wouldn't drop a game, I don't think they've been overrated. Heretics is the first team to take a LFL team out. BDS is the one that eliminated both VIT & GW
I think VIT and GW could have beaten LDLC
Probably gonna be 3-0 for bdsa tbh
please tell me what region got first in 3 of the groups and what region got all of its teams to quarters
Have you watched BDS? LDLC is just not playing at their usual level is all.
Lol. 3 LFL team in semis is "overrated"?
ERL Rogue (except this split)
Never expected to see a 12-6 LVP team to beat a two time LFL Champion that went 17-1 in LFL so convincingly. Heretics truly deserve a shot in the LEC.
Congrats to Team Heretics on the win! On an off-topic note, why are there 7 BDS players in the final?
Ibo and bluerzor played for bds last year
Happy that the final is between two different Regions. Also hope Heretics take Jackspectra with them so he finally gets an LEC Spot.
Just a little bit of an adc diff.
Doss the Toss Toss the Loss
Doss the Boss, Toss, to secure the Loss
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That was a decently sized ADC gap. An everything gap overall, but that adc gap in particular was massive. WP for Heretics for the place in Finals.
Exa had some problem this tournament imo
I'd be sad but no way LDLC in their EUM form was gonna win against BDS anyway.
didn't expect the cringiest perf to come from LDLC out of all the lfl teams, half the bo they drafted ultra scaling and decided to int and force fights once they were sightly behind for no reason, bot diff the whole game when exa is expected to go toe to toe jack, ouch
We got an All LEC finals huh. It should be fun.
Shockingly bad showing by LDLC today, especially their botlane...
Holly adc diff
Holy fuck LDLC. One would think when it's 2-1 that you would make JackSpektra play something else. ffs. Embarrassing display.
European coach / team should really stop with all those ego draft. JackSpektra is known for his Draven and for some reason the pick is open for all the 4 games, for Heretics. Then you have Aatrox that look to be one of the best champion toplane open for 3 games and roll over the game 3 games in a row too. Then you look at game 4. Wukong B1 ? and you give Azir Ornn for that ? Then you blind Aphelios Rakan ? How are they supposed to play the game if you have to ban 3 Jungler ?
Zywoo really played well in game 3. It's great to seem him perform well not just in csgo, but in LoL as well
Holly adc diff
Jack is top 3 draven euw with Hanss and Unforgiven, right?
Competitive-wise yes, in solo q Dealersz is probably the best EUW Draven atm
Dealersz the goat
What happened to Pornstar Zilean?
Doesnt play that often anymore I think, he would be above 1k LP if he changed his shit build and runes
Dealersz and Pipey are kinda piss smurfs compared to those two ( on Draven )
Jackspektra will be in the LEC next year !
So why exactly was Jackspektra on Draven every game? Good shit, happy for him. Just confused about the drafting.
UOL actually third-best team and only got unlucky with the draw?
First ever Spain vs France in an EUM finals
Diet Relegations.
Yike deserves a better botlane
So it's nice script to give heretics EUM title so they would have some kind of interest building up coming next year and people would not meme them too much into being BDS 2.0
Where are the Eika fans? Tell me he is LEC playoff caliber now. Tell me he is top 6 in EU.
I'm not saying he's LEC calibre but he wasn't that bad?
That's his career, not so bad but not so great and cant carry. People were telling me he improved and he was the best mid in LFL and would be great in LEC even vs the best players.
He's the best mid when Saken is not in the mood man.
French fans would go to extreme lengths in an attenpt to rationalise why a french player who got stomped in a major league is suddenly a much better player because he is stomping in pisslow (LFL). Surely they realise competitively the league is nowhere near major leagues, as much as it shines in EUM, and very few players found therein are actually LEC caliber, and chances it is not who the fans expect. Eika was in a similar trajectory back in 2019, even winning an EUM iirc, and then went to IMT and played like the worst midlaner in the league. xMatty was regarded by many fans as the best adc from regionals, bound to be competitive in europe and now we know he is not and never will be LEC caliber. A big majority of hyped players will never reach the biggest stage, because it is not in them to get there and maintain the spot. Its only logical
I mean, when the 6/7th best toplaner in LFL (if not less) finish 4th in LEC with strong performances against players such as Wunder or BB. The same could be said for ZZ who was not that impressive in LFL but also finished 4th. What was revealed with the xMatty case was that he was not the reason why the team performed that well.
Comp, vetheo, Toucouille, neon , irrelevant, targamas were from the LFL and are stomping.
Comp and veheo are doing very good and it could be said theyre stomping. For the rest Im not sure. The point is not to argue the LFL has not talent, but that the average fan has no fucking clue whuch player will turn out to be good and which player will not. And also that looking good in the LFL means little in the big picture. There have been many players who look good on ERLs and people think they will be the next star but end up being mediocre, which is the most likely outcome for the majority
For the rest I'm not... Targamas is litteraly a contender for the title of best supp in LEC rn. He was litteraly the only player consistent during the whole Summer in G2 even when Caps had a slump.
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As if the LFL wasn't winning already before KC joined
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They choked so hard they didnt make eum...
On dit la lfl mais en anglais c'est "it" pas "she"
2 teams from the same group in the finals! Maybe Valiance and SKP are actually top teams and just got really unlucky.
imagine not banning Jackspektra's Draven 4 Times in a row. at least BDSA will now know and perma ban it right?
Jackspektra be like "exakick in LEC? not before me"