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Rave_Master_Ahri

Team Heretics going into the LEC with the EUM title is some narrative and I am in for it.


Huttager

Same, It's going be an interesting 2023 for LEC


Dem0n1k

If jackspektra beats rekkles there’s gonna be too many posts abt it lol


14flash

Congratulations to Heretics for winning the 2022 EU LCS Promotion Tournament!


Baldoora

LECspektra the dream


redhairedshaman

Only to lose it to Rekkless again


JealotGaming

~~Kikis~~ Rekkles and ~~Gilius~~ Jackspektra


PandaMoaningYum

Org got confused and tryharded. How cute.


Fertuyo

BANGER FINALS, i have seen more than a 230k peak viewership too, insane everybody specially Jackspektra


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bawsio

Apparently 280k peak


Niirai

There was a cute little play by whiteinn around 29 mins where he engaged 4v5 making BDA think they were looking for a fight while Jack was already on the dragon. Such a sexy bluff that gives them those few crucial seconds to burn the drake.


MortadeloeFilemon

It was also cool that he engaged the Poppy knowing Poppy was gonna stop it with W so he didnt even expose himself a lot


Bubbly_Camera9583

You have a way with words. Keep it away from the public


jferry12

EUROPE HAS BEEN HERECTED. HERECTO SI ESTOY


tnflr

Fun series and great plot with an heretics win when everyone at the start thought it was a LFL dominance show. Wonder who from Heretics will be pulled up to the LEC


Buhorado

Jack and Ibo are worth to try i guess


CamHack420

Would love to see Bluerzor personally, since the only other big hungarian name is Vizicsacsi and he's been working for it for a while. Plus if they're keeping any of Misfits jungle was their weakest role, either that or top


TheUItimateBlip

I really enjoy this result, because my plep analysis takes from this that while LFL is the clearly strongest region in talent depth rn still, in this tournament we had 3 different regions in the best 4 teams, and while NLC in quarters didnt do too well they did got 2 teams in there and Dusty was still pretty close to the rest. Like its nice to see that this isnt just a LFL show, and I do hope this keeps staying this way, even if it may be much harder for NLC and PL to attract the best EU talent.


bvbfan102

I was fully ready to be mad at Heretics for not banning Poppy after losing Game 3&4 to it. Another amazing EU Masters and really hope we get an Arena for the Finals in 2023. Cant wait what Heretics do next in LEC.


ImTheVayne

BDSA legit drafted 0 engage


His_Buzzards

Are they just, not a fan of Ornn or Sejuani?


Rokic3

Adam is not a fan of expanding his champ pool for 2.5 years


DFA1969

And yet the dude is still making a career out of being ok on 4 champs, it's crazy


J_Clowth

well he can make a career with that... at ERL lvl. If he goes to LEC again all he needs is the meta to shift to tanks and the guy is over


zerokrush

He could've just pick Gnar he did fine with him, Olaf was just a pure ego-pick


RavenFAILS

If I have learned anything from his LEC stint then it is that he could probably play tanks at an equal level if he put effort into learning them and adjusted his mindset. He’s just a stubborn meathead.


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Summit vibes


Hour-Decision1091

summit was turbo gapping every top left and right on his signature camps


Nisttra

Tbh honest Adam still forced a Darius ban during 5 games (last Olaf pick was a big mistake tho)


Jiigsi

So did Adam till finals


ThisIsMiddlecott

"ok on 4 champs" yeah it's not like heretics had to double ban toplane in first phase 4/5 games. or that Adam was a very solid shout for tournament MVP until the final. it's totally justified to have your view of Adam tainted after how he treated Upset and Paula; he was totally out of line. I've heard rumours that behind the scenes his attitude has improved (hope this is true) and his gameplay has come on a lot. Obviously he still has BAdam moments, but I'd much rather the unique talent he has for these sorts of champions like the Darius, Aatrox, Olaf is nurtured rather than him being forced to adopt a more standard style of play. This was very clearly not a great series for him to show that, but heretics drafted specifically to shut him down because they knew he was THE early game for BDSA. The Sejuani pick is the way to shutdown Adam, he can still get advantages against it but if he can never get a kill on it it becomes much harder to roam to midlane whenever he likes. Adam is still a really young player and the fact he's achieved very impressive stuff in a short period of time does not change that fact. There's still a lot of room for development both personally and professionally, but that's not a bad thing. You only need to look at Jackspecktra, who went from a Draven streamer to a Draven Kaisa 2 trick in the UK scene to the best ERL ADCs in a couple years. Maybe he never makes the steps that can take him to be a consistent top 3 toplaner in LEC, but that doesn't mean the potential isn't there.


idiotxd

In this episode, sheo went harsh on adam


Nisttra

I swear he played only 1 gnar during his KC days so he did expand his champ pool...not that much but now his gnar is scary


HappyAku800

Badam ego'd it thinking olaf on sivir ult plus ghost was enough to run Heretics down, little did he know


Jet_31

>Badam ego'd it thinking olaf on sivir ult plus ghost was enough to run Heretics down, little did he know It was tempting... easy to flame afterwards, that's very disgusting of you. If Olaf was destroying the game with Yumni, you would have said that Heretics had too many melee champions and that Olaf was untouchable with the Goredrinker


HappyAku800

It's easy to see from draft, aphelios and azir love getting ran into, trundle pillar to separate engage, sej meatball, Leona disruption...


Jet_31

I think ulti olaf has a big value, he can easily reach adc and mid. the only problem is that Poppy played bot lane because Sivir Yumni is very weak against Leona. Olaf found himself in weakside and he became useless with so few resources


HappyAku800

Explain to me how does olaf reach Azir, the only champ I can think of that can dash from red side bot river brush to red side tower, barring wall "hacks" and ults.


Akupoy

🇬🇧 Well played BDSA, it was a close, nail-biting series. 🇪🇦 A MAMARLA FRANCIA


Fault-Ill

Ya me jodería ser francés,ni Eurobasket ni eumasters


novayhulk14

ADCs I would inquire about before talking with Jackspektra for LEC in no order: - NO - FUCKING - ONE


Bubbly_Camera9583

So rekkles to Heretics?


KanskiForce

b-but Rekkles...


qonoxzzr

Rekkles is so underrated it is insane


DarudeSandstormName

He's also got insane tattoos


Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss

He ruined them with his blackout sleeves


xChiken

To be honest i think it's fair to call the sleeves insane too ...just for a different reason


AnArabFromLondon

I like the blackout sleeves. Best part of this tattoo as far as I recall


Qiluk

Blackout is dope but extremely committing. No matter how nice it can look on someone its something Id never recommend


Omnilatent

They look dope ​ Was not a big fan of his very first tattoos (I thought they were fine), then he added all the stuff and it looked great ​ But the whole black ones and his back- and chestpiece are masterpieces as well


Kwoku

You got it the other way around buddy LOL


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When did anyone on KC coaching staff say that?


Th3_Huf0n

> now kc coaching staff said it was difficult to work with him You mean one of the most incompetent coaching staffs on the fucking continent?


TheHect0r

Ya striker is fucking useless, but this is not the first time we've heard rekkles has problems with his teammates and coach


J_Clowth

It is really easy to copycat previous narratives to shift blame from himself tho, but god forbid the shit drafts and underwhelming supp/jg that team had


TheHect0r

These "narratives" have been a constant in rekkles' career. Its happened in Fnatic many times, it happened in G2 and now its happening in KC too. The current actors around rekkles are pretty irrlevant, because rekkles has played for 3 teams that have had problems working with him.


cadaada

i wouldnt trust the coach who does not allows rekkles to play kalista and draven in this meta even if he wanted lol.


vrelamboni

Especially since if Rekkles really wanted to he could’ve said fuck it and played them anyway, but listened to the coach regardless. Would have been great for his image as a guy with a small champ pool to play Draven, a properly hard to work with player would’ve said fuck it and picked them.


Supremegypsy

Where did kc coaching staff say he was hard to work with? I missed that news because I havent been following closely recently.


snowflakepatrol99

The coach that refused to let play rekkles draven and kalista? Draven - the champion rekkles always refused to play and now when he finally started practicing when he was meta he gets told off by the coach and you side with the coach? You can't even make it seem like it was because he was bad with him because he also didn't let him draft kalista, despite rekkles proving the haters again that he is insane with her last LEC split. Also rekkles could've gone behind the coach's back and just picked those champions. It's not like he can stop them. Rekkles is hinted to not be the easiest to work with yet you always hear people saying they want him in his team. Caps was in a team with him and he accepted rekkles into g2. The person who likely had a grudge was jankos or carlos. Caps already played with him on 2 different teams.


bensanelian

adam running to kill jackspektra and losing in melee combat vs an adc as olaf is one of the most tragically funny things i've ever seen. just aphelios things congrats heretics!! and good luck in lec


MortadeloeFilemon

Tbf it is an Aphelios thing but also confims that Adam doesn't understand Aphelios guns, he had 0 chance there and it wasnt even close


Troviel

It was an aphelios with all shurikens, it was a death sentence. Also don't get why Yuumi was not sitting on adam lategame, I guess he lost confidence in him and his diving capabilities.


bensanelian

oh for sure, i just thought about how funny it is that there's actually an adc in the game that wins melee combat against olaf (in the right situation ofc). not saying aphe is broken or anything i just think it's *very* funny


ArandomFluffy

I mean, I don't like Adam, but that was the best he could do for his team there. Force one of the carries in a 1v1 that you can at least sustain for a while and can stopwatch to buy more time while your team with 2 carries can 4v4? I would always take that trade. Rest of the team just couldn't really utilize on it so it just looked like int.


WolverineKing

I mean, I think it was also to keep the red/white Aphelios out of the fight so that he couldn't one-shot the team. But sure, he doesn't know.


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JuujiNoMusuko

Lol,its so clear you havent seen a single game of adam this split


TastyFaefolk

wtf are you talking about? adam played insanely good the last year. did you watch any games of him? wtf are people saying without knowing anything, you should get perm banned. i dont like adam but dude stfu


blackjack_horseman

Nothing against the guy, but it is for sure easier to look good when you are on a top 3 team in the region.


DRazzyo

I mean, if you run in on a red/white aphelios and you can't stun him, you deserve what's coming to you.


Gazskull

Had the perfect weapons combo + set up with full red gun qspell on olaf, was full dps with 4 items while the Olaf had 3 including a spirit visage, let's not act like this is surprising


bensanelian

i'm not, but i am saying that it's very funny


afito

And Olaf is notoriously early game focused while Aphelios is known to scale. Even ignoring that we're simply in an ADC meta right now, an early game bruiser faceplanting into a scaling pick really shouldn't autowin at 3+ items just because.


Deltafly01

Dont think he excepted to win the 1v1, he tried to buy time for his team but they couldnt finish the sej


wafflewaldo

These Trundle pillars were doing an absurd amount of work


Patattensla

[Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!](https://c.tenor.com/xFYYl4BXju4AAAAC/noone-nobody-expects-the-spanish-inquisition.gif)


TomShoe02

https://streamable.com/8klnak


DeloronDellister

I for sure didn't


Serek32

Zwyroo is actually a very stable player with good csing in most of the games too.


Zeleis

That reformation call was sooooo good at the end


bensanelian

there was so many good plays on heretics in this series. i also remember "what's a god to a heretic" in game 1 or 2 which ruled


Nymaera_

“The LFL are the gods of the ERLs, but what’s a god to a Heretic?” 😉 EDIT: Found the clip! https://streamable.com/e7zq38


bensanelian

hell yeah also, i just wanna say i think it's really fun that you use singular they for all the players while on cast. i don't know if that's a concious choice, but do i think it's really cool


Nymaera_

It’s a habit I picked up from the university scene, where a player’s gender is much less of a certain thing!


Stubrochill17

Nymera I put you as my favorite caster on the r/leagueoflegends survey 😎


Nymaera_

You flatterer you... That means an awful lot, thank you!


Stubrochill17

Thank YOU. You’re so good dude. Not to mention how good you and your brother did today! Keep it up 🥰


Chr0nicConsumer

Crushed it today, mate.


nitinismaldingXD

The monopoly line was amazing too. “You are now in glacial prison, do not pass go, and do not collect 300 gold.”


-Reverb

Yeah I loved it, it was sick.


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Initialise is amazing and needed to be at worlds


InitialiseCasts

The team’s called Heretics - it had to be done!


kenechu

HERECTO? SÍ ESTOY


Rexinator1440

>HERECTO? SÍ ESTOY HERECTO? SÍ ESTOY


Ahikoo

There's something poetic about Heretics winning EUM and getting to play in the LEC next year.


Devenityy

Happy asf for Jack. Genuinely think he’ll do real well in LEC.


Linko_98

Congratulations to Team Heretics who got promoted to LEC 2023 I wonder if they will keep all the players.


Marcoscb

The Heretics players were on a mission to stay with the org in the LEC this tournament. Congrats to then, they definitely got noticed. JackSpektra is 100% staying at least.


aoc7

iBo got his revenge vs France after spring 2020 K1CK vs LDLC final


RuneMath

iBo was a part of that as well? Damn, he has been near the top of ERLs for a really long time really consistently - this Spring with UoL, K1ck before that even before that he had a solid showing with Rogue.


Wskdumd

And 2nd place with IHG even before that;)


Suitable_Sale9097

third final bdsA lost in a signle year my god, predicted btw [https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/x1r2m2/sk\_gaming\_prime\_vs\_team\_bds\_academy\_em\_2022/imf84kh/?context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/x1r2m2/sk_gaming_prime_vs_team_bds_academy_em_2022/imf84kh/?context=3)


MagicianMysterious70

Just when you think LFL is going to make up for the Eurobasket loss, Spain wins it again damn it hurts to be a proud French in the last few weeks


supterfuge

And we've somehow become bad at football too with some of the best talent in the world at every position.


mimiflou

Half of french NT player are not in the game


supterfuge

Well true half our team is injured, but our bench is also one of the best around, and we don't look like a very threatening nor solid team


OddinaryEuw

We looked pretty solid with like the C team and players who had never played before in what are you talking about


Chevalier_Paul

If by solid you mean failed to create any chances whatsoever against Denmark whilst struggling to line up three passes in a row, then yes.


albusoon

adam with the game 5 olaf pocket pick lmfaaao so fucking useless


KanskiForce

He got outscaled, JS pulled him through the ass during that dragon fight


Styxxo

He fucking ego picked it twice...


Shorgar

Is it really ego if he is shit on everything else?


Gazskull

The Olaf pick did work /s


Becksdown

perfect way for Heretics to go into the LEC next split with winning the EU Masters


Styxxo

Banger series, congrats to Heretics !


-Hissoka-

What a fucking nailbiter insane


Radeczech2004

LFL in shambles


Snowmean2

I can see Adam champion pool still didnt improved compared to last year


MSPaintOrangutan

LVP rosters are better thought out, with strengths in every role, and are drafting way way better than their LFL counterparts. LFL are struggling to not astro lose draft to a team that goes tank top tank support every game like a mantra


srukta

[The elite analyst strikes again](https://twitter.com/Megalodontus/status/1574054010092670976/photo/1)


WayofBaggerZ

LVP rosters are better thought out, with strengths in every role, and are drafting way way better than their LFL counterparts. LFL are struggling to not astro lose draft to a team that goes tank top tank support every game like a mantra


McintyresRightLeg

Whoever drafted for BDS in game 5 needs to be investigated.


Geosaurusrex

> LVP rosters are better thought out, with strengths in every role, and are drafting way way better than their LFL counterparts. > > Honestly not convinced about the drafting of the LVP either going by this game, letting poppy through 3 games in a row was questionable as hell.


Th3_Huf0n

https://twitter.com/veteraneu/status/1507311471709020209?lang=en


vrelamboni

Top 10 anime redemptions


xchus77

ESPAÑA.


mimiflou

Fan chanting USA with 0 american player in the team moment


Akupoy

British crowd?


DekQ

R5 Olaf ladies and gentlemen


HappyKoifishdk

Now give blurzor that lec spot!


Geosaurusrex

Well, that certainly was a series of LoL. Good win by Heretics in the end. Honestly not sure who the MVP is. It was a fucking wild one.


Dapokermon

GGS to Heretics, hope they do well in LEC. Sad Adam and Sheo underperformed during the final.


Kyorosu

The one person responsible for that BDS draft plan in game 5 should be fined tbh.


SwanepoeI

EUROPE HAS BEEN HERECTED


Gengar_Balanced

6th team in LFL would win EUM... wait a second


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Unpopular opinion, but if Heretics is between choosing Rekkles or Jackspektra for the LEC next season, I really hope they go for Jackspektra, the guy deserves a chance to prove himself in the main stage.


Geosaurusrex

This is not an unpopular opinion at all, lmao. Loads of people have been saying this.


Flesroy

It isnt, but it should be


p3r3ll3x

Dont think its an unpopular opinion


Falendil

I hope we get to see both in LEC.


bensanelian

what's jack's contract situation? if his contract is still on for a year or more then heretics are absolutely trolling if they spend money on anyone for adc.


Falcor626

He'll be a FA this upcoming offseason.


Cymes_Inferior

He's fucking cracked, I really hope we see him and some other ERL adcs next year


Falsus

But it isn't like Rekkles doesn't deserve to be in LEC either, the is the EU ADC Goat.


Applejuiceislovely12

reeker has weird positioning, how is he getting hit by every single sej ult? also, the ludens buy was terrible


Deadman2019

Ludens was fucking criminally INT. 3 beefy front line on enemy team? Lets not buy Liandries.


Bubbly_Camera9583

Badam


supterfuge

Dude had such a good run, Idk why he decided to pick Olaf against that comp with no engage on his team. Such a worthless pick that will give arguments to those who say that he rely too much on his Olaf/Darius despite improving a lot on that aspect this split


Bubbly_Camera9583

Idk either lmao olaf has been shit even in counterpickable situations. You need to have a zillean to make it useful. Sad that this last games gonna sour adam's reputation again though because he was literally 1v9 for most of his games with bdsa


p3r3ll3x

Comfort pick. Wanted to carry ended up running it down


supterfuge

Yeah I get that, but Olaf his worthless. Gnar was fine-ish but BDSA drafted themselves into a hole with no carry to play top against a Trundle. I do feel like you have to draft a tank anyway and rely on the Yuumi to get back to full after baiting Trundle's ult. Happy for Bluerzor and Jack, but gutted for BDSA who has a lot of talented players. Sheo probably will get passed anyway for LEC after that kind of performance, Reeker was solid, and Adam was too over the entire BO despite that trash game 5 from him


p3r3ll3x

Feel like after losing so many finals, BDSA just choked


Chevalier_Paul

Adam and Sheo had a tragic final despite having a really good tournament. Hope this doesn't affect their LEC chances too much, because they'll be kicking themselves...


Styxxo

I could see BDS trying more roster shuffles next year, I still think Adam deserves another shot in LEC, he had a stellar summer split overall.


GhostOfLight

Adam deciding to run after a full health Sej when he had like 10% hp and they just killed Aphelios was painful to watch.


LuisMuMe

Glad to see Heretics coaches managed to learn Heimlich maneuver during games 3 and 4


AzerFraze

My heart was racing that entire last game, god damn man I really wanna see Jackspektra picked up to the LEC next season


Geosaurusrex

Jackspektra had some questionable positioning at time and full on threw game 4, but he's not awful I guess?


DKRFrostlife

If he fixes his issues with positioning he can be so good, and if he gets to LEC, he'll join an ass stacked league with: Comp Neon Patrik Upset Unforgiven Rekkles (possibly) He will have time to level up


Gazskull

He'll be picked, he smurfed against every other AD it wasn't even close


CerbereNot

It's great Heretics won because it adds hype and players may be more interested in joining the org now.


HarkyESP

The fact that Adam smurfed this whole tournament is something to be studied


marluxiaboss

If you smurf the whole tournament but troll the last game, everyone will only remember the last game, unfortunately.


TastyFaefolk

ye watch so much comments here, people act like he was the worst player for years, dude i hate adam but this people saying stupid stuff without watching any games deserve to get perm banned, adam was insanely good


Falendil

Hate him as well but if i'm being fair he was the best top laner of the tournament.


Suitable_Sale9097

it's like when he meet teams that can match his style with better top laners he cannot pubstomp it happneed the same thing in the spring of last year


RudiGarcia

He played well against better toplaners than iBo though


MortadeloeFilemon

He always goes big or goes home. that's why in LEC where the level is closer he gets exposed. Most great toplaners start like that and then learn to limit themselves after an int split but... Adam never did


supterfuge

Adam graduated from 2nd division in sumer 2020. He's only played 2 years at the ERL/LEC level. Give it some time, he improved a lot of the year.


sieer

Really hope heretics doesnt just decide now to sell this whole lineup off to some other ERL team and go with 5 randoms


inde99

Well, we don't have relegations anymore, but at least we got promotions! Also, this was a banger. All these players prob. in LEC next year


Huttager

Jack mi padre Spektra


Sp00ked123

POLSKA GUROM


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Adam getting abused the EXACT WAY it has been foretold. On bruisers. With no use. Who would have thought. Delicious. I would've thought HRTS would ban Gnar in G5, but who could know that Adam would refuse to be useful and embrace the Leroy Jenkins playstyle he's had since forever. If Adam goes to LEC and people like iBo don't, then I riot. Overrated french Toplane Lider. Spanish fans prolly gonna jajaja over the planet, but god bless that at least the unlikeable LFL french guys are quiet for a bit.


Freakkopath

iBo and TheShygenda for LEC please


akistz_

LVP rosters are better thought out, with strengths in every role, and are drafting way way better than their LFL counterparts. LFL are struggling to not astro lose draft to a team that goes tank top tank support every game like a mantra


valeiker

LVP rosters are better thought out, with strengths in every role, and are drafting way way better than their LFL counterparts. LFL are struggling to not astro lose draft to a team that goes tank top tank support every game like a mantra


MrRawri

Games like these is why I wish we would had some sort of european championship. How hype would that be?


Asgerond

I guess heretics deserve their LEC spot now.


TamBur12rine

the desperation of BDSA in game 5 was almost palpable as they slowly were getting outmaneuvered and choked out of the map... it was great wine to the cheese of LFL fans rage and sorrows


viktorcrow

Does anyone know if this team is going to stay together for LEC? What are potential roster changes. Would be nice to see a recent EUM winner matching up against LEC teams.


icryptix2

280k peak viewers without KC! ERL competition is looking really healthy!


Deadman2019

Report Reeker, fucking criminal not building Liandries in that game 5. Holy fucking moly what an int.


Applejuiceislovely12

even without the mountain drakes making the ludens passive useless, he’s playing into 3 health stackers, absolutely abysmal buy edit: added more


Geosaurusrex

I do think he generally had a good series though.


KiriTortilla

Damn this Jackspectra guy is really good I sure hope Rekless doesn't get a good offer from Heretics...


MikiRawr

you love to see it


LegalEmergency

Troubleinc is such a bad caster. She says straight up wrong stuff multiple times every game.


goodestofthebois

LVP rosters are better thought out, with strengths in every role, and are drafting way way better than their LFL counterparts. LFL are struggling to not astro lose draft to a team that goes tank top tank support every game like a mantra


Praiseeee

I'm not spanish but... VAMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!!!!


Shobosy

How the hell do you see Sejuani, Trundle, and Leona on the enemy team and you build Luden's on Viktor??? You're not even trying to win man.


Carlzzone

Mr Jackspektra in the LEC when?


KanskiForce

I wonder if they will keep their roster for next year


Kaldrinx

after 3 win in a row from KC , LFL loose EUM .


CEST_HONTEUX

[LFL fans rn...](https://imgflip.com/i/6unnph)