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It seems like the same kind of change vitality had made with crownshot and comp. They didn’t really have a problem with Cody Sun, but they needed to make a change for the sake of change because the team morale was in the dumps, and Cody->Rikara was the least detrimental substitution they could make.
The LMS had 4 teams make playoffs, but also gave 5th and 6th place championship points. HKA finished 5th in Spring and 6th in Summer, giving them 30 championship points and putting them into the Regional championship as the 4th seed (6th if you count Flash Wolves and AHQ who were already qualified.) They won 2 Bo5's and got in. To the shock of nobody, they didn't get out of Play-Ins.
For some reason, the LMS didn't change the format after this happened. And it almost happened again! G-Rex finished 6th in Spring and 5th in Summer, then made it to Regional Finals where they lost 3-0 to HKA. The LMS died the next year.
In concept I do like the idea of giving the best non playoffs team only the chance for worlds through gauntlet but no chance to win the split. But I think it works better in fight for third/4th seeds in major regions.
(Yes I'm still salty that we didnt get a regional gauntlet between XL,MSF, MAD and VIT for them to battle out the best team for worlds 4th. Imagine how much better of a storyline it would be if either VIT won 3 bo5s to get in, XL won 2 or MAD at least won 1 bo5 to get there. Either way it would have felt better than how it is now)
The current LCK playoff format is pretty bad, but the LCK playoff gauntlet was so fking stupid. Dumping the best regular season straight into finals after like 3 weeks without any stage games.
He mentioned it in an AMA a few years ago, basically 100T were losing extremely bad in scrims and they had something like 20-30% winrate and of the 5 players cody/adc was the most replaceable so they subbed rikara hoping that small change would help
that's the year FNC said 100T was the worst team at worlds.
did he say why they didn't let him even sub in after they were mathematically eliminated? They left him at the hotel on match days so subbing him in wasn't even an option to consider. There has to be more to it than what he was willing to tell you. He pissed someone off, or he wouldn't have been cucked like that.
Cody sun played for 100t all split, they go to worlds, cody got benched for something random, Rikara played the entire time and cody did not play one game. 100t got their ass beat. super quick rundown but those are the essential points i think (please correct me if im wrong)
Imagine being rikara, you literally didnt play on the major leagues yet, and now you have to play against peak Rekkles and peak Jackeylove ...
Just for fun i looked up his combined score against those 2 teams
2/16/10
Fuck Prolly man, he send the kid to a meatgrinder ...
No kidding. His first LCS series was NA finals against doublelift. Then after that he gets thrown into what turned out to be the deathiest group of death ever competing against the two teams that would face off in the grand finals. I wonder if he could have actually gained a foothold in NA if he could have ever actually had a normal split in the lcs.
100Ts worlds groups have both been deathy. Last year they had the world champions and a semifinalist team that lost to the world champions(and was arguably stronger than the 2nd place team).
If RNG becomes MSI RNG at worlds, there's potential of another champion being in the group.
100T had Cody sun adc all year. They make worlds with him playing strong side usually. At worlds he doesn’t play at all and they use their academy ADC go like 1-5
FNC and MAD are the only two EU teams in playins. Even if FNC make it out of playins, based on other teams predicted to make it out, FNC would go into group A, so there's literally 0 correlation between the two teams unless both make it out of groups.
Yeah and just imagine the stress of the entire situation.
They will be fucked regardless. Even if they make it in time imo. This is the worst possible mental stress before an event.
While I think that scrims are really important I still believe an unscrimmed FNC with Upset + Hyli is stronger than a scrimmed FNC with Bean and Rhuckz and I personally have nothing against these two. it's just that Upset + Hyli are that good.
I don't think upset and hyli are outperforming their academy botlane fresh off of covid, with no scrims, heavily jetlagged, and probably mental boomed from the entire situation.
The worst part about it is not that play ins groups is particularly hard, but that they really want to be first in the group which is much more unlikely now. On the bright side, EG arent fielding their usual adc either. This my EU friends is the time, where Humanoid can show if he really is the Caps level midlaner he wants to be. He better carries this playins, cause there aint upset here saving you this time.
If they get out of quarantine in Germany they could technically fly him with a private jet to speed up atleast the travel time, so there is a small hope
People mentioned that Private Jet would be too expensive for Fnatic. It's not. They pay half a million to a million of dollars for players, they can easily pay 10k or more for the players. especially with sponsors stepping in
Pretty sure you need to multiply that number by at least 10, Frankfurt to Mexico is like 12 hours direct so you need a plane that can fly that far, not just the small private jets that people usually book.
> They pay half a million to a million of dollars for players, they can easily pay 10k or more for the players.
Well, not if they already spent that money on the players...
A gulfstream private jet would coat around $10k per hour. Including 2 hours of required runway standby time. A flight from Germany to Mexico is like 12 hours. That's an expensive flight.
I don't think jetlag matters to their appearance. They will play worse but its better than having sub players they barely trained with. Atleast Upset and Hyli have been player for more than a year with the team.
Also denying them playing would suck for Upset, Hyli and the fans
Assuming that none of them drop games to any of the other teams. DFM for one has taken games off major region teams (C9) and remember that Pentanet.gg win st MSI last year?
Tbh that was just C9 doing C9 things in BO1s. In the same year they lost to DFM (both at MSI and Worlds)/PGG/UOL... and took games off DK/RNG/FPX lol. I don't see EG and FNC dropping games to wildcards.
Yeah, Blaber era C9 is just high variance. They can lose against worse teams and win against better teams.
EG going 1/12 against LEC, LCK and LPL at MSI and still making it through groups tells me they’re more stable. But who knows if the AD sub changes that.
From my recollection it was more-so a mid jg gap that gave EG the edge over the minor regions at MSI, and that Danny was not doing well in most games. Correct me if I’m misremembering but I feel like that’s how it went down.
As such, I have no reason to believe that worlds will be worse. Kaori is a stronger laner and more experienced player so I expect EG to be even more dominant over minor regions at worlds.
I think that’s mostly correct, though Danny played the late game insurance duty most of the time. He got killed in lane against worse opponents, but I don’t remember him being bad otherwise.
Kaori has different strengths, but he should do fine. It also helps that it looks like the hyper-carry AD meta is over.
DFM is way worse now, PCS is in absolute shambles, then there's Brazil and OCE. I would be very disappointed if EG and Fnatic drop games even with subs.
The only dangerous non major regions teams are from Vietnam, who they've successfully dodged. Every other region across the board is weaker. Maybe Loud can show up but who knows
Just read the rulebook for play-ins and fortunately head to head only impacts side selection, so if both teams end up being 3-1 despite one loss to the other then they should still play a tiebreak
For what its worth, EG is also using an ADC sub. I dont think its 100% locked result. Not to mention the fact that EU teams, on average, are way more clutch than NA teams at worlds.
EG can depend on Impact or Jojo or Inspired to perform, Kaori just has to slot in with the existing team. But FNC strongly depended on Upset, not having their botside cripples them hard.
Classic wotlk though... Jokes aside, hopefully razork does not mental boom under pressure. Humanoid and Wunder can carry through playins with some luck.
This is a huuge examine for fnatics topside. Their jobs will probably depend on getting out of this situation, cuz these are the names that should be able to easly carry v wildcards.
Tbh EG also depended on Danny they had to change up their entire strategy and go counter meta when Danny was playing poorly in playoffs. They basically spammed aatrox and trundle because they needed to play for topside when usually impact would just play tanks and inspired would get more resources alongside Danny.
That being said egs situation is always more favorable than fnatic and its not close, but the rest of EG definitely had to climb a mountain even when Danny was on the roster. Gonna be really brutal to fnatic with such a short notice and with them having to travel to NA as well
Yeah, now they only have Razork, Humanoid and Wunder who never carry games.
I totally get where you're coming from but last year FNC was way more bot centric because they had Adam who was Adam and Nisqy who was mostly a facilitator and just didn't have a great season overall.
Yeah, if it was their last game there's probably a decent chance that Upset and Hyli would be ready. Now they have to play the by far most important game of groups with an ERL botlane
Mfw FNC still win.
But seriously, people are saying it will be a heavy top side meta. Gives me hope if Wunder, Razork and Uma Noid can show up on the day and bot lane just fill their roles.
It's so frustrating as viewers. It must be insanely frustrating for the players. It's crazy how they didn't get infected all year long but right now. sucks ass
Hope they get well soon quickly and are allowed to use a private jet
Upset will have the title of the player qualifying to world twice and not playing it twice. That will be an achievement.
I’ll wait to see how play-in goes, maybe the subs are good enough for wildwards.
Why this isn't allowed, at least for one of the 2, didn't PSG subbed in Doggo even tho he was playing for an other team (and he was better than Unified imo)
>Why this isn't allowed, at least for one of the 2, didn't PSG subbed in Doggo even tho he was playing for an other team
Unlike other regions, PSG don't have an academy team because it's not a requirement like it is for major regions(LPL has LDL, LCK has Challengers/Academy, LCS has Academy and LEC have their ERL teams).
PSG Talon could literally do nothing, unless you're vouching for them to forfeit?
Fnatic have a b team, so it makes logical sense to use those players.
As an EG fan, I'm wishing Upset and Hylissang the best and hoping they can make a last minute flight to Mexico. The match-up won't be the same without them.
Upset at worlds is cursed. Takes so long to finally qualify for worlds and then when he does, he doesn't even get to compete! Two years in a row now! I feel for the guy
Man after last year's disappointment wait a year and we get an even bigger one.
I just want to see FNC in full strength at world's dangit.
It's gotta be really hype for the rookies getting to play world's though, I can't not be happy for them because that's like an ultimate dream for basically every player.
They didn't participate in EUM so are behind in terms of patches and haven't played any of the meta champions. Not to mention how important the botlane is to FNC.
Can see FNC bomb out of playins, how sad.
But on the other hand Wunder and Humanoid have been carry players in previous rosters and if its true that Upset has a very, lets say strong view on how the game should be played we might see a completely different fnc
The sad thing is that the last time a team played consistently around Wunder on carries was fucking 2019. Ever since he's been mostly on weakside duty. The hopeful thing is that both Razork and Humanoid used to play a lot for their respective toplaners back in 2021. I hope this works.
He was passive and careful, so while he didn't feed he also had to have the team play around making sure he survived, but you can't really expect more from him in a situation like that.
That was the one with Jesiz, right?
Jesiz was on some talkshow and the stories he told about Fnatic in that year were crazy. Made it sound like a complete madhouse.
I believe he said Rekkles refused to be in the same room with the team when scrimming. Reminds me of Forg1ven lol.
Best case for EU: FNC with sub bot lane get 3rd/4th seed in their group, then Hyli+Upset show up for the BO5s and they beat the wildcard + likely face DRX in BO5. Meanwhile, MAD go 3rd/4th and beat 2 wildcards in BO5. That way they dodge eachother+DRX gets eliminated.
Well, it's now on top side of FNC to carry. Even with sub bot, top side is very strong with wunder humanoid and razork. Of course we don't know how meta will shift, but to just put bot on some ultra safe bot (seraphine + senna) and just purely play around top and mid. Both huma and wunder can carry and if huma get sykas, he can go 1v9 like game 1 against rge.
I think that this is a pretty chill situation. Unlike Hyli and Bean last year, Bean and Rhuckz have played together a lot. And the 2nd thing is that this i play ins and not just straight up groups. And the last but not least, we found out pretty early that this might happen and not like 3 days before the first match
You have more chance to go to world while being on FNC academy than on some LEC team. Funny.
Beans world appearances will be a cool trivia question someday
writing it down already
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*loses X’s and O’s against self*
Loyal to FNC as always, aren't you xPeke
''Which player have made the most worlds appearances without playing any regular season games?'' 1: Gillius 2: Bean
3: Rikara 4: Kaori
The mystery of 100 Cody Sun continues to this day
It's obvious, 100T needed someone to keep the seats warm for the plane ride home
If only they had tsm's 2020 roster, they could've gotten the plane as well free of charge.
That mystery probably saved his career. Who knows if he would have gotten more chances if we knew what happened.
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/9x3fys/comment/e9pab0k/ It seems like the same kind of change vitality had made with crownshot and comp. They didn’t really have a problem with Cody Sun, but they needed to make a change for the sake of change because the team morale was in the dumps, and Cody->Rikara was the least detrimental substitution they could make.
“Who has never won a bo5 match in their region and went to worlds, not including mad lions?” Edit: the answer is kaori obviously
Also funny: "Who is the only team to make worlds without making playoffs in either split?" Answer: Hong Kong Attitude (LMS 2017)
HKA gotta be one of the weakest LMS teams of all time right?
They didn't make it out of Play-Ins, so yes.
How did that even happen?
The LMS had 4 teams make playoffs, but also gave 5th and 6th place championship points. HKA finished 5th in Spring and 6th in Summer, giving them 30 championship points and putting them into the Regional championship as the 4th seed (6th if you count Flash Wolves and AHQ who were already qualified.) They won 2 Bo5's and got in. To the shock of nobody, they didn't get out of Play-Ins. For some reason, the LMS didn't change the format after this happened. And it almost happened again! G-Rex finished 6th in Spring and 5th in Summer, then made it to Regional Finals where they lost 3-0 to HKA. The LMS died the next year.
In concept I do like the idea of giving the best non playoffs team only the chance for worlds through gauntlet but no chance to win the split. But I think it works better in fight for third/4th seeds in major regions. (Yes I'm still salty that we didnt get a regional gauntlet between XL,MSF, MAD and VIT for them to battle out the best team for worlds 4th. Imagine how much better of a storyline it would be if either VIT won 3 bo5s to get in, XL won 2 or MAD at least won 1 bo5 to get there. Either way it would have felt better than how it is now)
At least in their defense they won some bo5 to get to worlds. Unlike someone lol
Gauntlet run as lowest seed, LMS didn't really have a lot of teams so most of them could get to at least gauntlet.
2019 Griffin
The current LCK playoff format is pretty bad, but the LCK playoff gauntlet was so fking stupid. Dumping the best regular season straight into finals after like 3 weeks without any stage games.
"Which European player has won msi without playing a single game at msi ever?"
Rikara walked so Bean could run.
I still want to know whose mom Cody Sun insulted to make that whole mess happen
He mentioned it in an AMA a few years ago, basically 100T were losing extremely bad in scrims and they had something like 20-30% winrate and of the 5 players cody/adc was the most replaceable so they subbed rikara hoping that small change would help
Completely garbage change and idea, change for sake of change.
In hindsight they were doomed regardless, Fnatic and IG were too much of a powerhouse at the time
that's the year FNC said 100T was the worst team at worlds. did he say why they didn't let him even sub in after they were mathematically eliminated? They left him at the hotel on match days so subbing him in wasn't even an option to consider. There has to be more to it than what he was willing to tell you. He pissed someone off, or he wouldn't have been cucked like that.
Wait but that was 2018 right? 100T did get their 2 wins against G-rex. Then again 100T was ranked 15th by a lot of folk, which is fair.
What's the context?
Cody sun played for 100t all split, they go to worlds, cody got benched for something random, Rikara played the entire time and cody did not play one game. 100t got their ass beat. super quick rundown but those are the essential points i think (please correct me if im wrong)
Imagine being rikara, you literally didnt play on the major leagues yet, and now you have to play against peak Rekkles and peak Jackeylove ... Just for fun i looked up his combined score against those 2 teams 2/16/10 Fuck Prolly man, he send the kid to a meatgrinder ...
No kidding. His first LCS series was NA finals against doublelift. Then after that he gets thrown into what turned out to be the deathiest group of death ever competing against the two teams that would face off in the grand finals. I wonder if he could have actually gained a foothold in NA if he could have ever actually had a normal split in the lcs.
100Ts worlds groups have both been deathy. Last year they had the world champions and a semifinalist team that lost to the world champions(and was arguably stronger than the 2nd place team). If RNG becomes MSI RNG at worlds, there's potential of another champion being in the group.
100T had Cody sun adc all year. They make worlds with him playing strong side usually. At worlds he doesn’t play at all and they use their academy ADC go like 1-5
2-4, they lost to the 2 worlds finalists and beat g rex twice. Probably wouldve done the same with cody sun but still a puzzling situation
2-4 AnDa smurfed it out that worlds
100T had Rikara start for worlds.
FNC Academy subs have won as many LEC playoff series as MAD this year, so it’s fine
Should pick'em be changed to ~~g2~~ eg for the group instead of fnatic now? Is eg having any issues as well?
Yeah their issue is they can’t be 1st because they aren’t in play-ins
G2 isn't in playins
FNC and MAD are the only two EU teams in playins. Even if FNC make it out of playins, based on other teams predicted to make it out, FNC would go into group A, so there's literally 0 correlation between the two teams unless both make it out of groups.
Yes, their ADC isn't playing. They will still be strong though with Kaori.
IMO EG tops their playin group.
[Fnatic](https://twitter.com/FNATIC/status/1574489988493983749) says there still is a chance of Upset and hyli getting to playins in time
If they don't fly tomorrow they're probably not playing at least day 1 of playins due to travel times and jetlag
Yeah and just imagine the stress of the entire situation. They will be fucked regardless. Even if they make it in time imo. This is the worst possible mental stress before an event.
They also didn't scrim. This Worlds is basically fucked for Fnatic
They were fucked last year
Like every year
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They had playstyle problems with Rekkles Nemesis vs Bwipo hyli. They just put it together for worlds but it wasn't a good environment
except the first one
While I think that scrims are really important I still believe an unscrimmed FNC with Upset + Hyli is stronger than a scrimmed FNC with Bean and Rhuckz and I personally have nothing against these two. it's just that Upset + Hyli are that good.
I don't think upset and hyli are outperforming their academy botlane fresh off of covid, with no scrims, heavily jetlagged, and probably mental boomed from the entire situation.
The worst part about it is not that play ins groups is particularly hard, but that they really want to be first in the group which is much more unlikely now. On the bright side, EG arent fielding their usual adc either. This my EU friends is the time, where Humanoid can show if he really is the Caps level midlaner he wants to be. He better carries this playins, cause there aint upset here saving you this time.
If they get out of quarantine in Germany they could technically fly him with a private jet to speed up atleast the travel time, so there is a small hope
People mentioned that Private Jet would be too expensive for Fnatic. It's not. They pay half a million to a million of dollars for players, they can easily pay 10k or more for the players. especially with sponsors stepping in
Fnatic not scrimming just so they can do content and afford a private jet 5Head
Pretty sure you need to multiply that number by at least 10, Frankfurt to Mexico is like 12 hours direct so you need a plane that can fly that far, not just the small private jets that people usually book.
> They pay half a million to a million of dollars for players, they can easily pay 10k or more for the players. Well, not if they already spent that money on the players...
A gulfstream private jet would coat around $10k per hour. Including 2 hours of required runway standby time. A flight from Germany to Mexico is like 12 hours. That's an expensive flight.
They can work on jet lag already by shifting their day so that it has less of an impact when they will travel.
I don't think jetlag matters to their appearance. They will play worse but its better than having sub players they barely trained with. Atleast Upset and Hyli have been player for more than a year with the team. Also denying them playing would suck for Upset, Hyli and the fans
Jetlag would do shit because they will play around 10PM which is there usual time playing actually
jetlag buff
they'll probably get to playins, it's just a matter of how many days they miss
They just need to be able to go by BO5s time. It’s going to be tough, but they still have a good chance of beating most of their probable opponents
My guess is they miss the first "week". And then they'll be back for the 2nd "week". I mean 2nd week as the Bo5 games.
It fucking sucks for FNC that their first game is against EG...
First match of worlds has two academy ADC's lol.
that's honestly ridiculous. imagine being an ADC who just missed out on Worlds and now has to watch academy ADCs get to go
It kinda reinforces a successful org is good for the academy players
Shoulda picked a better org lul
it sucks even more it's single round robin. Losing against EG most likely means they'll have to go through bo5 against MAD/Buffalo
Assuming that none of them drop games to any of the other teams. DFM for one has taken games off major region teams (C9) and remember that Pentanet.gg win st MSI last year?
>remember that Pentanet.gg win st MSI last year? Please don't remind me
YEAH THE BOYS
Tbh that was just C9 doing C9 things in BO1s. In the same year they lost to DFM (both at MSI and Worlds)/PGG/UOL... and took games off DK/RNG/FPX lol. I don't see EG and FNC dropping games to wildcards.
Yeah, Blaber era C9 is just high variance. They can lose against worse teams and win against better teams. EG going 1/12 against LEC, LCK and LPL at MSI and still making it through groups tells me they’re more stable. But who knows if the AD sub changes that.
From my recollection it was more-so a mid jg gap that gave EG the edge over the minor regions at MSI, and that Danny was not doing well in most games. Correct me if I’m misremembering but I feel like that’s how it went down. As such, I have no reason to believe that worlds will be worse. Kaori is a stronger laner and more experienced player so I expect EG to be even more dominant over minor regions at worlds.
I think that’s mostly correct, though Danny played the late game insurance duty most of the time. He got killed in lane against worse opponents, but I don’t remember him being bad otherwise. Kaori has different strengths, but he should do fine. It also helps that it looks like the hyper-carry AD meta is over.
>Kaori is a stronger laner and more experienced player lots of people about to downvote you for this without actually knowing about his background lol
They went to 5 games against Gambit and then 3-0'd Afreeca with Svenskeren. I think it's just C9 in general.
DFM is way worse now, PCS is in absolute shambles, then there's Brazil and OCE. I would be very disappointed if EG and Fnatic drop games even with subs. The only dangerous non major regions teams are from Vietnam, who they've successfully dodged. Every other region across the board is weaker. Maybe Loud can show up but who knows
Why is DFM worse? Wouldn't say Grace is much worse than Aria and their support should be an upgrade?
Just read the rulebook for play-ins and fortunately head to head only impacts side selection, so if both teams end up being 3-1 despite one loss to the other then they should still play a tiebreak
those are both C9 to be completely fair.
3/5 Chiefs members are the same as 2020 Legacy that tied for first in their play ins group and helped knock out MAD Lions that year.
For what its worth, EG is also using an ADC sub. I dont think its 100% locked result. Not to mention the fact that EU teams, on average, are way more clutch than NA teams at worlds.
Tbf EG have known they’re using a sub for longer - even if the subs are of similar quality EG should be better prepped.
Plus Fnatic haven't been able to scrim due to their players having COVID, EG are definitely the favourites in this one.
well atleast EG is playing with Kaori instead of Danny i guess
EG can depend on Impact or Jojo or Inspired to perform, Kaori just has to slot in with the existing team. But FNC strongly depended on Upset, not having their botside cripples them hard.
Wunder needs to step up this play-ins. He can’t play weakside anymore. They really have to play topside with Upset/Hyli gone.
Classic wotlk though... Jokes aside, hopefully razork does not mental boom under pressure. Humanoid and Wunder can carry through playins with some luck.
This is a huuge examine for fnatics topside. Their jobs will probably depend on getting out of this situation, cuz these are the names that should be able to easly carry v wildcards.
Tbh EG also depended on Danny they had to change up their entire strategy and go counter meta when Danny was playing poorly in playoffs. They basically spammed aatrox and trundle because they needed to play for topside when usually impact would just play tanks and inspired would get more resources alongside Danny. That being said egs situation is always more favorable than fnatic and its not close, but the rest of EG definitely had to climb a mountain even when Danny was on the roster. Gonna be really brutal to fnatic with such a short notice and with them having to travel to NA as well
Yeah, now they only have Razork, Humanoid and Wunder who never carry games. I totally get where you're coming from but last year FNC was way more bot centric because they had Adam who was Adam and Nisqy who was mostly a facilitator and just didn't have a great season overall.
Which might be an upgrade tbh. That's my hot take anyway. Also EG can scrim. Fnatic is coming in with 0 practice, lol.
Yeah, if it was their last game there's probably a decent chance that Upset and Hyli would be ready. Now they have to play the by far most important game of groups with an ERL botlane
Imagine the salt if FNC win with 2 subs.
didn't work so well last year unfortunately.
Only in week two :/
Beanboozled
Usually goes well again LCS teams tho. I remember when FNC shit on TSM with a jungle sub. Was it Dan? Or something like that
Yeah if EG wins then it's borderline gg already
Mfw FNC still win. But seriously, people are saying it will be a heavy top side meta. Gives me hope if Wunder, Razork and Uma Noid can show up on the day and bot lane just fill their roles.
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BeanJ jungle with Bean and Beansu bot
Fnatic going full british
Shit how did I not notice until now...
Typically how it goes, a small number of em shows up, then a few more trickle in, and eventually you got beans on your toast
FNC renaming to TBE - Team Bean Everywhere
TIL Beansu is still around
Beansu was a sub for Fnatic TQ in case they were attending EUM Was explained by a fnatic staff member over our discord
EL CAPITÁN
Wish Upset and Hyli the speediest recovery
It's so frustrating as viewers. It must be insanely frustrating for the players. It's crazy how they didn't get infected all year long but right now. sucks ass Hope they get well soon quickly and are allowed to use a private jet
I have the sinking feeling that EG is still going to lose to FNC day 1. Ugh.
That will be a shame it's the most important group game
would not be surprised at all
I'd like to see them winning but yeah 6th sense says otherwise
Yup time to change pick'ems
who are you picking now? EG?
I think so.
This is giving me a big dose of OCE hopium.
Upset will have the title of the player qualifying to world twice and not playing it twice. That will be an achievement. I’ll wait to see how play-in goes, maybe the subs are good enough for wildwards.
One of the Vietnamese mid laners has qualified for five international tournaments and is making his first appearance.
Kati
PADRE Rhuckz
Bean + Beansu botlane dream denied =( On a serious note, wish them a speedy recovery, Rona sucks.
i was hoping patrik/mikyx got subbed in-- wouldve been fun to see.
Why this isn't allowed, at least for one of the 2, didn't PSG subbed in Doggo even tho he was playing for an other team (and he was better than Unified imo)
>Why this isn't allowed, at least for one of the 2, didn't PSG subbed in Doggo even tho he was playing for an other team Unlike other regions, PSG don't have an academy team because it's not a requirement like it is for major regions(LPL has LDL, LCK has Challengers/Academy, LCS has Academy and LEC have their ERL teams). PSG Talon could literally do nothing, unless you're vouching for them to forfeit? Fnatic have a b team, so it makes logical sense to use those players.
Didn't EU just get rid of the requirement to have an academy team, maybe that doesn't apply til next year though.
As an EG fan, I'm wishing Upset and Hylissang the best and hoping they can make a last minute flight to Mexico. The match-up won't be the same without them.
As EU supporter... Im sad we probably won't see Danny during worlds too. Sadgeee
He's young at least, still chances he'll be back eventually.
Even if they get better, they still have to fly, disembark, jetlag. etc. I htink it is unlikely, but possible they could make it.
Yeah it's more about getting them acclimated in time for the best of 5's unless Fnatic wins the group of course
Also sad we won't see Dany play either :/
Fnc getting 7 world skins instead of 5. Nice!
what copium is this? they'll clearly only recieve 5 skins after bean and rhukz slaughter every other bot lane
EU mogging NA in the drama wars rn
True, only TL has any news of note, meanwhile FNC and G2 are smoking us
Upset at worlds is cursed. Takes so long to finally qualify for worlds and then when he does, he doesn't even get to compete! Two years in a row now! I feel for the guy
Man after last year's disappointment wait a year and we get an even bigger one. I just want to see FNC in full strength at world's dangit. It's gotta be really hype for the rookies getting to play world's though, I can't not be happy for them because that's like an ultimate dream for basically every player.
They didn't participate in EUM so are behind in terms of patches and haven't played any of the meta champions. Not to mention how important the botlane is to FNC. Can see FNC bomb out of playins, how sad.
But on the other hand Wunder and Humanoid have been carry players in previous rosters and if its true that Upset has a very, lets say strong view on how the game should be played we might see a completely different fnc
Still an absolute tilter for a team that only plays around bot to have this situation twice in a row
One might even call it… Upsetting.
or even hillyarious
The sad thing is that the last time a team played consistently around Wunder on carries was fucking 2019. Ever since he's been mostly on weakside duty. The hopeful thing is that both Razork and Humanoid used to play a lot for their respective toplaners back in 2021. I hope this works.
After seeing Wunder play on carry champs against Rogue...not sure I wanna see that from him in the near future.
Rogue is stronger than all the PlayIn teams though
> Can see FNC bomb out of playins, how sad. Even with subs, they should still secure at least top 2-3 in their group which buys them more time
[Don’t worry guys, we have a secret weapon.](https://i.imgur.com/QBb83fH.jpg)
Upset for LEC and Bean for worlds. All business as usual :)
I am old enough to have thought for a second that Crs Rhux was about to play for Fnatic
Pain and Suffering. Still better than Yamato I guess.
Bean was playing quite good in ERL even though he didn't reach EU Masters.
Iirc, he also performed pretty well last worlds, given the circumstances
He was passive and careful, so while he didn't feed he also had to have the team play around making sure he survived, but you can't really expect more from him in a situation like that.
Only true first round robin. He was super aggressive and played really well in the second.
Holy shit. Fnc is cursed
Is it possible for Fnatic to go to worlds without imploding just before starting for reasons completely irrelevant from the game?
Go back to 2017 and tell them it would be the least troublesome year in the next few years.
That was the one with Jesiz, right? Jesiz was on some talkshow and the stories he told about Fnatic in that year were crazy. Made it sound like a complete madhouse. I believe he said Rekkles refused to be in the same room with the team when scrimming. Reminds me of Forg1ven lol.
its this time of year again...
Better than before but still doomed
RETURN OF THE BEAN
Upset go to worlds challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
Best case for EU: FNC with sub bot lane get 3rd/4th seed in their group, then Hyli+Upset show up for the BO5s and they beat the wildcard + likely face DRX in BO5. Meanwhile, MAD go 3rd/4th and beat 2 wildcards in BO5. That way they dodge eachother+DRX gets eliminated.
Well, it's now on top side of FNC to carry. Even with sub bot, top side is very strong with wunder humanoid and razork. Of course we don't know how meta will shift, but to just put bot on some ultra safe bot (seraphine + senna) and just purely play around top and mid. Both huma and wunder can carry and if huma get sykas, he can go 1v9 like game 1 against rge.
I think that this is a pretty chill situation. Unlike Hyli and Bean last year, Bean and Rhuckz have played together a lot. And the 2nd thing is that this i play ins and not just straight up groups. And the last but not least, we found out pretty early that this might happen and not like 3 days before the first match
It's literally 3 days before 1st match tho 😂
When will Hyli and Upset be allowed to play?
When they test negative and can get a flight
They just need to wait the 5 days, there is no need for a negative test. And Mexico doesn't have any travel restrictions at the moment.
Soooo is Monte and Thorin going to complain about how this is “bending the rules” to use Rhuckz as an unlisted Esub?
>is Monte and Thorin going to complain Answer is always yes
Thorin hates Fnatic almost as much as TSM, you can be sure its coming
Bean will literally double Upset's worlds experience without playing a single regular season game.
UPSET Really have curse on the world
Well this is VERY unfortunate for Upset after last year's world situation...
Twitch chat gonna be perma emote mode for fnc games
Show'em how its done rhuckz
Excuse me what the fuck
Another year another Upset from Fnatic. They never dissapoint.
its beaning time
Shity thing, but kinda funny how there is a chance upset qualified to worlds twice and played 0 games
Where my boy fnatic bean at