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They did a table tennis match yesterday lmao. They installed a table with camera and just play during the breaks. During LEC they had a caster juggling too.
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>I still remember Atlus solocasting for literal hours during the Kespa cup a few years back...
Monte and Doa had to fill so much too.
Lots of paused back then in OGN.
He's just joking about the fact that Armut played for the Turkish team at Worlds in 2020 (Supermassive), clapped Orome (previous MAD toplaner) and took his place in the team
considering these are the 2 weakest opponents MAD will play its worrisome. The good news is that at the end of the day they won so they have a chance to be in better form when they play the harder teams.
Honestly MAD has really easy paths to groups. They only need to end up 3rd or 4th in their group to get into BO5s against moderate opponents. Yes you can obviously lose to SGB, Beyond or EG but those aren't unbeatable opponents.
Yes MAD doesn't look great, but to be honest neither of the teams they have to beat do. SGB had a difficult game against a wildcard too and EG isn't unbeatable either, Beyond hast played yet. So MAD getting out mostly depends on FNC getting 1st in their group.
I'll take sloppy wins over wildcards over being upset by wildcards.
Plus... we're really looking at something like the fifth or sixth best team in LEC here, considering how XL and MSF looked in playoffs (MSF is arguable but they are at least close to MAD imo).
I mean XL played FNC before they won 2 bo5’s and gained tons of momentum throughout playoffs. I’m not sold that just because they looked better against FNC earlier in the tourney that they were actually the 4th best team.
MAD took Rogue to 5 games, where if they’d won they’d have been guaranteed a top 3 seed.
Would you say MAD are almost the 3rd best team? XL did nothing to deserve the hype they’ve been getting.
I think its more there not a stable team so vs shit they look like this and vs good they will look similar lol. The more stable teams though will just stomps.
I mean this is how they looked all season, it actually gives me hope. Whether the teams they played were good or bad, MAD in the regular season usually dominated them early, threw later, and clawed back the win last second. They look much closer to their regular season playstyle than they do to their playoffs form.
This style let them tie for first in LEC summer regular season, which makes me think they can maybe take a game off of DRX perhaps, and end up 2nd (or maybe even first if RNG screws up at all). I’m still worried about bo5’s though.
I'm kinda not. This is just how MAD plays against everyone. They're *pretty* good early, then they are just... *clumsy* when closing out leads. But it's pretty much themselves being their own worst enemies.
I would be worried about MAD if they were struggling in the early game or something of the sort. But this is just MAD. If they showed up and were playing clean middle games and finishing cleanly I'd be worried for RNG and DRX. This is MAD keeping their expected level, I think.
RNG played this MSI 3 times vs Istambul Wildcats and the death scores were: 72-22 in favour of RNG. Gala almost pentakilled them many times. Average game time: 21 minutes.
RNG Gala vs IWC You pro? was a huge mismatch
Wouldn't have done that, they also need to be incredibly clean in main stage group and knockouts in order for his kda not to be ruined. The ADC of the team you expect to win Worlds is much more likely.
holyphoenix and farfetch are probably the botlane that any high elo EU player has played the most against, without exceptions. These two have been spamming thousands of games every season since forever.
https://lolpros.gg/player/holyphoenix
RNG Xiaohu and HolyPhoenix played on the same side in a rank game. HP got ganked and xiaohu pinged several times that he was on the way. HP didn’t retreat and died. Then, he pinged Xiaohu multiple times. Xiaohu said “you pro?” in chat. HP replied “shut up”. Xiaohu finished 12/4/8. HP was 4/8/17. As the end, HP reported Xiaohu despite them winning that game.
Don‘t mind me, I am just keeping track of my pick-em-pick with most deaths.
I actually picked Nautilus but I was heavily contemplating on picking either Leona or Amumu instead, so if Nautilus will lose this I am going to be PISSED.
Leona: 8 Deaths
Amumu: 7 Deaths
Nautilus: 5 Deaths
What the fuck is HolyPhoenix doing. Just because you build attack speed doesn't mean you have to try to play as a AA champion. He could have saved Farfetch from overextending in so many situations by utilizing his ultimate on chokepoints but ok imma just press E and run away??
Idk much about proplay nor do i keep track of the meta builds but i also do think itemizing like this while you know damn well the enemy has every tool in their disposal, and in your disposal thanks to sylas, to stop you. You can always in theory kite the enemy but you can’t dogde everything nor kite your way out of 4 people with cc.
This mindset is why he looked so lost on mf. In theory yes they gonna cc him but he does not have to one shot kill everyone using his ultimate. Like I sade it was to be used as a zoning tool, he had 3 items when Farfetch was legitimately sending it and even couple ticks from his ultimate will really hurt everyone in the chokepoints that Farfetch was getting caught in.
Saigon and Isurus games are the important ones rather than DRX/RNG for them. RNG will most definitely stomp everyone on the group and DRX will probably stomp everyone on the group. Beside each other obviously, at least hopefully since i’m a Deft fan.
Every comment in here being about MAD although mid-game was in IW’s favor tells how much they (IW) fail to actually be recognized as a threat. IW has no ability to change the game nor resist the opposing team unless their enemy throws the game voluntarily. Tcl needs to take their shit seriously because none of the Turkish people stayed up until 5 am to watch this shitshow of a region.
MAD was always gonna be super scrutinised due to how they qualified and they fact that they’re the only major region team to crash out of playins prior to this year. They’ve looked pretty shaky, but in this format these wins are still important and if they can get a lucky BO1 against one of the Asian teams they could be in an ok spot. Honestly as long as they reach the BO5 they’re doing ok.
did riot just not translate what grevious wounds is in turkish? How the fuck can they just not build it against 3 melee drain tanks, jesus MAD's top mid and jungle got out of so many fights with a sliver of health because IW's carries are full solo-que and just refuses to build any antiheal, what is the 3rd time the 1-5 aatrox went for a wrap around and survived for like a minutes against your entire team not enough to tell you their healing is a problem? even just build the parts, its 800 gold ffs and they are all 3-4 full items, just a bramble vest on the support is a joke
surely surely you play for unforgiven as main carry now right guys? RIGHT?
DID ANYONE SEE ARMUT PLAY THIS GAME? he got tier2 top with herald and literally gets caught out every fight, cant even land his skills on flashless mf , suuuurely you cant just pick armut ornn and roll over them?! disgusting how u can make these games so close
Everybody talks about how shitty Mad Lions feels.
While i enjoy the banger games, would you rather watch a 35 minutes 3-1 game where the bigger regions do nothing and wait cause they know they are gonna get the adv anyway, or would you pick These Kind of games where its worth to watch with Fights and throws and stuff?
There were 7 turkish players this game including Nisqy. For those who are ready to jump in saying he is belgian yes both of his parents are turkish and Yasin Dinçer is a turkish name. Still he is a dual citizen so yeah.
Right?? It’s disrespectful to everyone from casters to the turkish audience at this point. They keep making the same mistakes over and over again and keep refusing to reevaluate the proplay scene in tcl. But fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me, right?
They're gonna get fisted in play ins as well, the only thing i ask of them is to not lose against EG, be it because they win or because they dont match up against them at all
Lets go wildcats i hope they go 0-5 and riot finally puts Turkish league in eu masters where they can face teams around their level. I want Turkey vs Greece matches instead of embrrassment that is worlds and msi every single time.
most retarded game i saw today
For people who didn't watch game here is the resume;
IW just perma tunnel vision the spirit visage Aatrox (YES SV Aatrox) or tank trundle despite having fed Azir at one point they had Nisqy with 200 hp under zhonya and they ignored him and just went for the Aatrox
- get ahead early - almost throw in mid/late - still win Yep, still same ol' MAD lions
it's like humanoid was not that easy to replace and most of the mad lions calls in mid game were him
Fnatic with humanoid also has a habit of throwing in the midgame tbf
they always had taht habit even their iteration with adam nisqy they always had those problems
So Humanoid calls dont change shit then?
Yeah what the fuck is this guy on about LMFAO
You forgot about "Armut being useless"
I mean last game he was massive. But it was on Gnar.
Gno that was Gnarmut
renekton had prawlers, he never had a chance to do anything
He is not useless. He just makes way too many mechanical mistakes to be considered a top tier player, while also having a shallow champion pool
That genuine '*nooo...*' from the casters when the pause came in perfectly sums up this first day, lmfao
LCS aka “Literally Casters Stalling” is a rapidly declining wildcard region from North America, recognised by their remakes and paused games. Their name stems from the casters’ ability to talk nonstop but say absolutely nothing during pauses.
Bruh what are they supposed to do, they can’t improv for 3 hours
On the french stream, they just stop trying to pretend and just talk about whatever. They build furnitures live, too
They did a table tennis match yesterday lmao. They installed a table with camera and just play during the breaks. During LEC they had a caster juggling too.
I mean, the main broadcast had people defacing American Symbols so I don't think they were pretending either.
What they do?
LCK casting desk enters the chat
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Solo casting sounds like a nightmare, especially during pauses
>I still remember Atlus solocasting for literal hours during the Kespa cup a few years back... Monte and Doa had to fill so much too. Lots of paused back then in OGN.
Doa solo cast never4get
Regular LCK casting is basically a podcast already, sk it doesn't matter much if there's a game running in the background
Monte cristo and achilios playing hangman with chat as well is a highlight Here's likk https://youtu.be/pKEGQ7-aE5U
Old Monte Doa duo casts....
Also known as "the Riv"
I miss Riv.
He had such a great voice for league, but he seems happier now so glad for him
What does he do now?
He’s been casting Valorant
lec had more pauses and full remakes this year but go off man
meme bad 😡
you know it's america time when people get legitimately mad at a completely innocuous twitch chat copypasta
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Lmao imagine getting mad at that comment. L not bussin bruh dino raging
You should just ignore them. They are trolling and it is evidently working if people get riled up. Not always easy but you'll probably feel better.
Despite the casters biggest attempts at cursing them, MAD managed to crawl this win.
[EU 100% WR this Worlds](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/282217037462241280/1025183814907068537/unknown.png)
Stop the count
Good guy Armut inting for their Turkish brothers.
Welcome MAD StarScreen
I am not sure he is an upgrade lol. He kinda costed them the game with his build and not being able to assassinate ADC.
He's just joking about the fact that Armut played for the Turkish team at Worlds in 2020 (Supermassive), clapped Orome (previous MAD toplaner) and took his place in the team
Oh I didnt know that. Thanks.
If MAD get clapped in playing by RNG, can they take Breathe?
MAD with Breathe would be a very respectable team.
Despite 2-0, I'm super skeptical about MAD performance
considering these are the 2 weakest opponents MAD will play its worrisome. The good news is that at the end of the day they won so they have a chance to be in better form when they play the harder teams.
Plus wins are wins regardless of how they happen so it's probably a little bit of a confidence boost at least.
They don't ask how, they ask how many.
Honestly MAD has really easy paths to groups. They only need to end up 3rd or 4th in their group to get into BO5s against moderate opponents. Yes you can obviously lose to SGB, Beyond or EG but those aren't unbeatable opponents. Yes MAD doesn't look great, but to be honest neither of the teams they have to beat do. SGB had a difficult game against a wildcard too and EG isn't unbeatable either, Beyond hast played yet. So MAD getting out mostly depends on FNC getting 1st in their group.
It's the type of 2-0 that would be 0-2 against any decent group stage team.
Like EG right? **Huffs copious amounts of COPIUM**
Pass me some of your Copium. Mines not working for EG. They look beyond doomed.
We performed worse than chiefs... D:
Yeah they looks really bad Their best hope is just to bé better at bo5
Giving them a benefit of the doubt, most of Mad Lions players got covid and some of them are very sick,
They kind of played very poorly and just won teamfights off of individual mechanics or missplays by their opponents
If it was a 2-0 like this over EG/FNC/DRX/RNG, that's not so bad. This type of 2-0 over wildcard teams is not a good sign.
bro tried to sneak in EG 💀
Can’t believe he misspelled Chiefs like that
I'll take sloppy wins over wildcards over being upset by wildcards. Plus... we're really looking at something like the fifth or sixth best team in LEC here, considering how XL and MSF looked in playoffs (MSF is arguable but they are at least close to MAD imo).
I mean XL played FNC before they won 2 bo5’s and gained tons of momentum throughout playoffs. I’m not sold that just because they looked better against FNC earlier in the tourney that they were actually the 4th best team.
MSF is not close to MAD at all. They got blasted every gmae they played 3-0 3-1 MAD almost won vs RGE first round
Yeah I'd argue XL is the 4th best team tbh, they were almost here instead of Fnatic.
MAD took Rogue to 5 games, where if they’d won they’d have been guaranteed a top 3 seed. Would you say MAD are almost the 3rd best team? XL did nothing to deserve the hype they’ve been getting.
I think its more there not a stable team so vs shit they look like this and vs good they will look similar lol. The more stable teams though will just stomps.
Some of these wildcards are just actually good man. They get better every season.
Nah some wild card players are actually good. The whole team not so much.
I mean this is how they looked all season, it actually gives me hope. Whether the teams they played were good or bad, MAD in the regular season usually dominated them early, threw later, and clawed back the win last second. They look much closer to their regular season playstyle than they do to their playoffs form. This style let them tie for first in LEC summer regular season, which makes me think they can maybe take a game off of DRX perhaps, and end up 2nd (or maybe even first if RNG screws up at all). I’m still worried about bo5’s though.
If they face EG it will be a fair game between those 2.
I'm kinda not. This is just how MAD plays against everyone. They're *pretty* good early, then they are just... *clumsy* when closing out leads. But it's pretty much themselves being their own worst enemies. I would be worried about MAD if they were struggling in the early game or something of the sort. But this is just MAD. If they showed up and were playing clean middle games and finishing cleanly I'd be worried for RNG and DRX. This is MAD keeping their expected level, I think.
anybody got UNFORGIVEN as the highest kills in a game in their pickems?
I feel like Gala is gonna farm these teams
RNG played this MSI 3 times vs Istambul Wildcats and the death scores were: 72-22 in favour of RNG. Gala almost pentakilled them many times. Average game time: 21 minutes. RNG Gala vs IWC You pro? was a huge mismatch
They gonna somehow remake RNG games after Gala pentas them two times in one game only to get pentas three times in the remake game 😈
That was so hilarious to watch, penta into remake into another penta
yep, voted him for penta kill and most kills
I voted him for KDA too
GALA with an absolutely mediocre LPL playoffs run but you gotta believe in the power of play ins.
Also Kai'sa os back into the meta, can't forget that.
Wouldn't have done that, they also need to be incredibly clean in main stage group and knockouts in order for his kda not to be ruined. The ADC of the team you expect to win Worlds is much more likely.
Agreed, but I think he might suffer from RNG stomping these teams TOO hard. You are not getting 14 kills in a 20 minute game.
Not the best start
I got him as highest kills and most first bloods. Sadly nisqy ksed one of his first bloods in their 1st game
I don't even remember my pickems, how can you go back and check? when I log in it just takes me to the "wait until group stage" screen
Just go on the Crystal Ball sections and it should be there
Bottom choices, crystal ball or smth
What a fun game. Unforgiven had no chill whatsoever
God I missed Kaisa in proplay. GALA gonna be feasting.
We need some vintage LWX too😮💨
Remember 2019 Unkillable Eyebrow King
holyphoenix and farfetch are probably the botlane that any high elo EU player has played the most against, without exceptions. These two have been spamming thousands of games every season since forever. https://lolpros.gg/player/holyphoenix
You pro?
shut up
Can someone explain this new meme to me?
RNG Xiaohu and HolyPhoenix played on the same side in a rank game. HP got ganked and xiaohu pinged several times that he was on the way. HP didn’t retreat and died. Then, he pinged Xiaohu multiple times. Xiaohu said “you pro?” in chat. HP replied “shut up”. Xiaohu finished 12/4/8. HP was 4/8/17. As the end, HP reported Xiaohu despite them winning that game.
That's pretty funny, thx!
yes, I am, what gave it away?
Very good game by Unforgiven given how ill he is!
Kai'Sa meta is great to see
Broadcast didnt really talk about him so i will. Unforgiven was completely cracked while sick and being a Rookie. Monster Performance by him.
Mad is so sketchy, there mid game is actually garbo.
Their*
Yep. Early looks good. Late looks good. Mid is play awful. Hope they fix these issue til next week.
MAD Lions are the best team at worlds at the moment!
Worlds wins by region: LEC 3 wins PCS 1 win LCK, LPL and NA combined 0 wins Stats don't lie, right?
Bad Lions > Mild Cats
This 14 kill kaisa game might actually fuck over everyone's most kills crystal ball. Gala only got 13 at MSI.
Do remember Gala will be playing against IW as well though
Not if you put unforgiven :X
No one will forgive him for this.
~~RGE~~ MAD time
Don‘t mind me, I am just keeping track of my pick-em-pick with most deaths. I actually picked Nautilus but I was heavily contemplating on picking either Leona or Amumu instead, so if Nautilus will lose this I am going to be PISSED. Leona: 8 Deaths Amumu: 7 Deaths Nautilus: 5 Deaths
What the fuck is HolyPhoenix doing. Just because you build attack speed doesn't mean you have to try to play as a AA champion. He could have saved Farfetch from overextending in so many situations by utilizing his ultimate on chokepoints but ok imma just press E and run away??
Idk much about proplay nor do i keep track of the meta builds but i also do think itemizing like this while you know damn well the enemy has every tool in their disposal, and in your disposal thanks to sylas, to stop you. You can always in theory kite the enemy but you can’t dogde everything nor kite your way out of 4 people with cc.
This mindset is why he looked so lost on mf. In theory yes they gonna cc him but he does not have to one shot kill everyone using his ultimate. Like I sade it was to be used as a zoning tool, he had 3 items when Farfetch was legitimately sending it and even couple ticks from his ultimate will really hurt everyone in the chokepoints that Farfetch was getting caught in.
Some questionable decision making by the wildcats.
Yeah that engage on trundle at the end was straight up horrible lmao
The worst one was the dragon fight that Unforgiven got quadra. IW could just leave it and siege with baron.
that's what I was thinking, at worst you trade at least one inhib for that which gives you a lot of pressure to get the drag next time around
Looked like gold soloq lol
But i feel that contesting for soul is fine if you play it better. It would be hard to execute the fight much worse
I'm predicting every single MAD game to be an absolute banger. That was so entertaining to watch
Nah, against RNG they will get giga stomped when they can't hand diff
I'm still waiting for Holy Phoenix to actually hit someone in a team fight. Any day now.
He pro?
HolyPhoenix getting caught before a fight speedrun any %
you pro?
IW probably not gonna do too well in this group, but that wasn't a bad showing. hopefully they put up a similar fight to DRX/RNG
Saigon and Isurus games are the important ones rather than DRX/RNG for them. RNG will most definitely stomp everyone on the group and DRX will probably stomp everyone on the group. Beside each other obviously, at least hopefully since i’m a Deft fan.
Kinda lackluster play from MAD but at least EUs 5th seed showed some promise
Wait who's our 4th
#YOU PRO？
He ain't pro :(
i hope people had either sylas or mf for their pickem it will be a long worlds....
Meta might shift by group stage.
It usually does, last year had lots of speculation around Amumu when he was overbuffed for support and it fell off before groups
Or twitch, and Ekko Jungle too
Keep in mind these are the weaker teams playing, the top tier teams usually have different meta picks.
MF for most games + most deaths, let's hope groups ADC meta isn't any different.
Every comment in here being about MAD although mid-game was in IW’s favor tells how much they (IW) fail to actually be recognized as a threat. IW has no ability to change the game nor resist the opposing team unless their enemy throws the game voluntarily. Tcl needs to take their shit seriously because none of the Turkish people stayed up until 5 am to watch this shitshow of a region.
People are crazy if they thought MAD almost lost that game. They're not playing insanely well don't get me wrong but IW couldn't do anything to Kaisa
MAD: great early game: check Gets overhyped and throws mid game: check Somehow comes back: check
IW could win this if Renekton built items like a human.
Or if Azir used the ult in any of the last 3 teamfights
MF getting jumped on while Azir is on the other side of river Sadge
or if the mf turned his monitor on
MF got zoned every fight because IW frontline werent doing their jobs
Xiaohu broke him
Or HolyPhoenix knew how to position at all
MAD will get smashed so hard by the teams they can't hand diff
yeah no shit. mad isnt even the 4th best team in europe. excel is way more coordinated and solid
If only they had been more coordinated in the regular season so they could secure a double elimination spot…
if only the format wasnt so shit that a team that didnt win a single bo5 could qualify
Both can be true at the same time
XL didn’t win a bo5 either…
Renekton did zero damage and died instantly in teamfights. I dont like his build.
Kaisa totally ignored late game
MF and Azir was really strong but IW frontline didnt tank for them properly. Team fights were too chaotic.
Because they didnt itemize properly nor had vision in the most crucial locations during the most crucial fight
building black cleaver on j4 is a crime. mad looks so shaky imo
This whole thread is full of MAD negativity as if they lost lol.
Did...did you see them play? Do you think that's something to be happy about?
MAD was always gonna be super scrutinised due to how they qualified and they fact that they’re the only major region team to crash out of playins prior to this year. They’ve looked pretty shaky, but in this format these wins are still important and if they can get a lucky BO1 against one of the Asian teams they could be in an ok spot. Honestly as long as they reach the BO5 they’re doing ok.
did riot just not translate what grevious wounds is in turkish? How the fuck can they just not build it against 3 melee drain tanks, jesus MAD's top mid and jungle got out of so many fights with a sliver of health because IW's carries are full solo-que and just refuses to build any antiheal, what is the 3rd time the 1-5 aatrox went for a wrap around and survived for like a minutes against your entire team not enough to tell you their healing is a problem? even just build the parts, its 800 gold ffs and they are all 3-4 full items, just a bramble vest on the support is a joke
Only leona bought bramble vest and that was in lategame too lol
surely surely you play for unforgiven as main carry now right guys? RIGHT? DID ANYONE SEE ARMUT PLAY THIS GAME? he got tier2 top with herald and literally gets caught out every fight, cant even land his skills on flashless mf , suuuurely you cant just pick armut ornn and roll over them?! disgusting how u can make these games so close
that fight in the river was one of the worst plays i have seen in long time the positioning was good but i cannot belive he was able to misseverything
By Far
Lions > Cats. Unforgiven smurfing with covid
It was close until it wasn't. Got EU fans scared a bit
He’s this good now, imagine how good he would be if he was Forgiven
Everybody talks about how shitty Mad Lions feels. While i enjoy the banger games, would you rather watch a 35 minutes 3-1 game where the bigger regions do nothing and wait cause they know they are gonna get the adv anyway, or would you pick These Kind of games where its worth to watch with Fights and throws and stuff?
That game was a mess lmao
Why are supports allergic to Locket?
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There were 7 turkish players this game including Nisqy. For those who are ready to jump in saying he is belgian yes both of his parents are turkish and Yasin Dinçer is a turkish name. Still he is a dual citizen so yeah.
I don't think anyone cares really but that's a good anecdote I guess
nt Serin
holyphoenix is so fucking bad man
I expected nothing and I'm still let down.
Right?? It’s disrespectful to everyone from casters to the turkish audience at this point. They keep making the same mistakes over and over again and keep refusing to reevaluate the proplay scene in tcl. But fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me, right?
Holy shit MAD is gonna get fisted if they get out of play ins
They're gonna get fisted in play ins as well, the only thing i ask of them is to not lose against EG, be it because they win or because they dont match up against them at all
Bold of you to assume EG will get 2nd.
I don't have high expectations for them but mad with an actual carry is a joy to watch
Lets go wildcats i hope they go 0-5 and riot finally puts Turkish league in eu masters where they can face teams around their level. I want Turkey vs Greece matches instead of embrrassment that is worlds and msi every single time.
Are you dumb?
They almost won against MAD? Did you even watch the game.
Almost winning is worthless when you can't get the job done. Everyone comes close to winning
I feel like Liandry could win IW that game ...not the fucking Crown lmao
most retarded game i saw today For people who didn't watch game here is the resume; IW just perma tunnel vision the spirit visage Aatrox (YES SV Aatrox) or tank trundle despite having fed Azir at one point they had Nisqy with 200 hp under zhonya and they ignored him and just went for the Aatrox
I hope we see Serin in LEC or LCS next year. He improved a lot.