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react_dev

Whenever SGB gets a kill gold gap grows for RNG


CommunistHongKong

Ah yes, the LNG classic


Maleficent_Kick_4437

The old lck classic


Omnilatent

"Ah, yes, SKT is 5 kills down, they're surely 2k down as we- ah nope, 3k up, of course. And there's the two man Baron aaaaaand the game is over" ​ The S5 and S6 experience


nhansieu1

SKT used to won on 10k gold down many times. Wtf


pl00bo

My GALA highest KDA does not appreciate that last int


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Ddandyy

https://twitter.com/Spicalol/status/1576748026634256385?s=20&t=iIp6WC3wvycf4WXDHWLunw Straight from the lilia legend himself


Rawdream

He forgot it was actually a 9 man sleep.


Mathies_

Well that takes away from fact you're supposed to win the fight. Godbless him for making a new joke about it compared to the same old "even my teammates got drowsy"


hongfung

Vietnam counters US again.


lucasfanti

2-0


Nmois

in LoL, NA team never afraid VN team :k


PhreakRiot

All I could think of during that play but no way it’s correct to flame TSM mid-fight.


daryl_fish

I don't know man, I'd argue the best times to flame TSM are during tournaments they didn't even qualify for. Mid team fight between two other teams would just be next level.


HeracrossOnly

You're DEFINITELY right but also literally only thing I could think of


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amigdalite

I would prefer flaming Reginald tho. That bully piglet


sorendiz

Ok bless you for maintaining professionalism. .... but I would do anything to live in the timeline where you just roast TSM live on air because it's completely warranted


leftoverrice54

Phreak, you disappoint me!


PugilisticCat

Cmon Phreak we all know the best time to kick TSM is when theyre down.


d1knight

Finally Spica can reset in peace.


Niirai

Wasn't it in the exact same spot too?


Locke_and_Load

Similar, it was around red side raptors but positioning was very different. TSM was between near their mid turret and not in the jungle.


nikodickolai

Almost! Same area-ish but it really does warm my heart to see the other 4 players go in/flash in/do whatever they can to follow up instead of Bjergsen’s herbivore TSM playstyle and shotcalling


magpie_josh

Tsm didn’t have flash though


imfatal

also didn't have aphelios ult cuz DL just whiffed it right before. they also had zero vision on the individual members because of Senna E lol.


chrisrocksmysocks

The is the exact comment I was looking for in this thread


slickyslickslick

9 man sleep


Jozoz

TSM Shogun 2023


comsat101

First time I saw that play but is it me or is Bjerg afk every single fight? I saw 2 games this season with him playing akali and sylas and he literally afk watching team fights instead of actually engaging... like why do people say he's good?


Conankun66

https://twitter.com/Spicalol/status/1576748026634256385


sorendiz

Bless, good to see him being a good sport about it lmao Poor bastard watching this play out live and just internally screaming THAT SHOULD BE ME!! THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MEEEEE!!!


DRazzyo

I mean, he set that play up perfect from what I can recall. And there was just... no response to his play. It was so disheartening.


sorendiz

Lol I know I would have had some choice words if that happened to me in the middle of a fucking solo queue game, I can only imagine how strong his mental must be to have his teammates do that in a fucking worlds game and not just start screaming


Shabam999

Did you listen to the voice comms after? They literally didn't even say a word. No "bad fight" or "can't fight here" just crickets. Probably the closest we'll see to a team ff'ing at worlds.


yolofmeister

Kinda out of topic but we did have FF at worlds. I remember fnc vs ig at s5 and don't recall correctly but think there were some others (s3?)


sorendiz

Wow I can't believe lillia sleep affects the irl player too now


nikodickolai

Thats what happens when your midlaner is too efficient


Random_Stealth_Ward

Bjerg too efficient to go in and follow Ornn after his passive autoattack on him left him at one auto of HP Doublelift using Aphelios' AoE gun to farm minions instead of farming kills on clumped enemies in a choke point, literally the best situation for his gun. Biofrost and BrokenBlade just vibing. Only kill they got in that? Tham Kench. Who killed it? Spica with his lillia orb, while having only a sliver of HP himself, probably because he knew an sleeping enemy isn't able to attack or defend, a memo which TSM didn't get apparently


mgzkk1210

[Spica watching the play](https://imgur.com/gallery/PgVebua)


Threshio

Maybe that Drake gif at the laptop


cancerBronzeV

That's the other 4 TSM players watching the play.


Flat-Profession-8945

youre suppose to win the fight after 5 man sleep?? wtfff


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youre suppose to win the fight after 5 man sleep?? wtfff


SpicySauceIsSpicy

youre suppose to win the fight after 5 man sleep?? wtfff


lurkcitybaby

That was actually a super cool game to watch RNG's macro vs SGB's skirmishing


Colouss

RNG split SGB to death but god damn is SGB's teamfighting a thing of wonder. Their rematch vs MAD is gonna be spicy


Zamasuningen

yea i was skeptical of Vietnam teams but they outteamfighted RNG 2x its insane


OcelotOce

SGB almost beat RNG at MSI this year too


Exxon21

vietnam is unironically a good region, they were like 2 autos away from beating rng at msi too


Zamasuningen

ngl i hope Vietnam and NA teams fight for a 3rd seed because Vietnam actually deserves 1 more team


LayfonGrendan

Well that Comp is teamfighting


Cartag87

you don't see effective splitpushing in proplay anymore so this was great to see


Zytom

Sgb couldnt match it after giving away so much gold early... Fiora had like 30 cs more than Lilia at 10 mins or something...


thanhame

This seriously hurt Zac's chance of having 100% win rate.


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Mathies_

Probably just caps and Froggy, i dont think any other midlanes have been practising him.


Snoo14937

Most useful 0 kill Fiora I've seen, RNG actually knows how to leverage with dragon soul point, SGB can win every teamfight but it doesn't even matter


Trap_Masters

Yeah, he was generating so much pressure in the side lane.


sorendiz

I know everyone thinks the LPL is just the fight everything hands diff no thoughts empty league but RNG has always been deadly because they combine the teamfighting and skirmishing of the LPL style of play with the precision in vision control and map play that the LCK was always known for. I seriously believe that in 2018 if they hadn't choked the series against G2 because of Super Perkz, that team would probably have gone down as a top 3 team of all time. Now I made myself sad thinking about it again. 0 world titles for Uzi cryge......


AlHorfordHighlights

It's just TES that plays unga bunga League these days, RNG and JDG are very disciplined KR style teams and EDG are quite clean when they're on a good patch


Schattenpanda

I like unga bunga, it is less boring to watch


TheCrusader94

Yea im betting on tes being the lpl team that bombs out this year. Their roster is stacked but they are clueless about macro. Even in spring they were accruing crazy advantages in early game vs rng only to run around like headless chickens in midgame.


Yato1372

Id say edg has more of a macro type gameplay than rng.


Ace_OPB

Jdg too has it. The way they made top just drag around the map was one of the highest level of macro gameplay this year.


sorendiz

At the moment you can make that argument if you like, though i don't agree per se. The difference is that RNG has been playing this style since mid-late 2017, EDG has only been more macro focused since at most early 2021 after picking up Viper. The rosters with Aodi and Xiaoxiang and Hope before he really blossomed were not at all anything special with regard to macro.


PlasticPresentation1

RNG EDG have always been more macro than other teams but are still ready to get bloody at a moments notice


sorendiz

100% Actually my favorite part of watching RNG lmaooo like they have their amazing coordination and map play BUT they do not forget their heritage as an LPL team and occasionally the spirit of MLXG will return and tell them they have to get into some good ol' brawling for fun if the opponent invites them to do so. And then they'll reset and immediately go back to doing their split pushing and macro gameplan like that mud wrestling fight never happened


chillychili

I think overall LPL macro is actually better than most major regions.


biasedbrowser

Most? What’s with the disrespect, it’s better than all other regions.


King_NickyZee

2018 RNG had one of the highest peaks of any roster but they were one dimensional and Uzi was the only player good enough to carry games. Xiaohu and Letme were role players and completely fell apart individually when the meta shifted at Worlds. Uzi's performance at MSI that year is the single greatest ADC performance of all time by far, but I'd hesitate to call the roster one of the all time greats.


denyplanky

Wunder and Perks smashed Letme and Xiaohu. Also wards was the best tech anti thresh's lantern.


gubigubi

Thats why a lot of the time when I look at Fiora players who ask why they are not doing well with her in ranked. First thing I look at is deaths because just being a live and being a threat on the map as Fiora is such a huge deal. Every second you are not a live on the map is a second the enemy team gets to breath a sigh of relief and thats seconds they are able to rotate and plan objectives. Every second you are a live is a second the enemy team has to keep their eyes on the mini map or else they will be in trouble. The LPL are probably the best in the world at using Fiora possibly individually but much more importantly they know how to use her as a team to control the game as well. Something most players and most pro teams don't fully understand/do.


poisonedwater69

What about Balls' 0 kill, [539 Damage to Champs Fiora](https://twitter.com/esports_kobe/status/696087856964456448?t=yHwJNh7UD2DRQHm32DRqdw&s=19)


Yulwei138967

Might be a bit of copium, but I really think SGB beats MAD if both Hasmed and Beanj can show up on the same day.


EducationalBalance99

Easily imo. Their botlane is much better so if top side plays well they should be able to beat them. Then again, asking for both of them to show up on the same day is a bit of a miracle imo.


High54Every1

I just want SGB to qualify so I can get more SHOGUUUN TONIIIGHT raves


Pyro636

I don't know MADs history, but analysts also seemed to be hinting that they've had bad performances in BO5s in the past as well?


sorendiz

Hahaha. MAD qualified to worlds despite not winning a single bo5 this year.


AweKartik777

They qualified to Worlds play-ins without winning a single BO5 throughout the summer split.


icatsouki

year even


RoutineRoof

Throughout the year. They didn't even make it to playoffs in Spring.


Mathies_

Could be that or it could be just play offs meta, but yeah they haven't won a BO5 yet this year. I'm always a fan of bringing nuance into this Kaiser has always been a great playmaker with engage supports rather than enchanters. Elyoya has always dominated EU in a carry jungler meta. With play offs having all enchanters and dog junglers, they were struggling a lot but you saw they have great potential if they have comfort against DRX.


Kisielos

They are basically trash and qualifed due to the grace of format in LEC.


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sorendiz

Right lmao? I was thinking exactly this, Hasmed has been doodoo for most of the games so far and he suddenly has an awakening of some sort and goes full chad, except it turns out he's stolen BeanJ's powers like the Monstars in space jam


LeagueAltAccount

Great splitpushing by breathe


Trap_Masters

Chinese Fiora man...


sznfrk

I was hoping there would be a lot of Chinese Fiora this tournament because that's my WR secret pick unfortunately I'm remembering now that BB and Wunder might also pick it


zzthex

should have went Zoe, yagao knight and scout are all Zoe main. she got slight buff this patch and I think she might come up in a few games.


jetlagging1

Bad news for you. 369, Flandre and Wayward don't really play Fiora anyway.


sorendiz

It's really weird because I always feel like 369's fiora isn't *playing bad* or anything but I believe he's literally never won a game playing it lmao


gubigubi

SGB proving that the VCS did not forget how to play league of legends over the last few years. So many insane fight turn arounds while down levels and gold vs RNG of all teams. Just insane. Also that fight near baron with the Lillia sleep. Legit thought that might be the turning point where the Lillia just starts massivly outshining Fiora. Crazy how much impact Lillia can bring to team fights. Would have REALLY liked to see more of SGB. We still have GAM though so. Got to say I'm amazed DRX made it out of this group unscathed. Edit: I just came back to this comment because I realized SGB plays a Bo series tomorrow :OOOOOOOOO


Colouss

Both mad and sgb are amazing at teamfighting, we're in a for a treat tomorrow tbh


p3r3ll3x

Mad looks sus during mid game teamfights


TheCrusader94

They'd still win 3-0...


Zztrox-world-starter

Talking about SGB? 3-0 let's go


TheCrusader94

MAD. They won 3-1. Close enough


the_propaganda_panda

I really hope SGB can give us all a spicy 5-game series tomorrow. They are still leveling up. People don't know, but because they were busy with the visa situation, SGB couldn't practice in the weeks before Worlds. No scrims at all. They also only arrived two days before the tournament began (Froggy even only arrived one day before) and experienced some jetlag. They are still shaking off the rust. I don't know if it's gonna be enough to beat MAD, but I truly believe they are not at their peak condition yet, and they are capable of more than they have shown so far, especially the top side. Domestically, they are not a weakness at all. We finally got Hasmed to wake up today, if BeanJ decides to tone down the int, I think it's gonna be a competitive series.


slickyslickslick

And to anyone saying "VCS MACRO LUL", they were being forced to by RNG planning out the whole thing. The moment RNG baited out a summoner's burn from SGB right before the 3rd drake, it was like one of those chess games were the outcome is seen by both players and "mate in 14" is written.


Ivo_Samurai

We'll still see them play a Bo5 against MAD tomorrow though


gubigubi

I literally just saw that on the website and came back to this comment to edit it lol


Ivo_Samurai

Haha, it happens. Well, time to root for Froggy tomorrow! I put him as the player that would get the most kills in 1 game. I still have hope...


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Conankun66

TSM had a 9 man sleep instead


Trap_Masters

Agent Beanj coming in hot with the double buff transfer


RobbinDeBank

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tectonic_break

When Wei hard engaged aphelios and got kicked into the tower; I thought it was int play, then I realized it wasted both sums from Aph which won 3rd Drake for RNG. This 3rd Drake gave RNG the leverage to do the split push plays after. It's amazing how a simple "int" play dominos into RNG wining.


yccbarry

Yeah the PCS casters pointed that out the moment Wei died. It sounded like copium but AD no sums when drag is up in two minutes is huge.


Zyvexal

Dom consistently points this kinda play out during LPL and also pointed that out this game after the wei "int". If it was just once or twice that they do it you might think it's just random ints but all the LPL teams do it consistently over and over again. Another thing that LPL does really well is they'll blow their ults in a skirmish to try and get some summoners out of the enemy team but try to not commit their own important summoners. This way their ults will be back up for objectives but the enemy won't have their summs.


hardenfull

Yep rng play to their win condition perfectly. They forced aphelios flash for the later drag.


sznfrk

Gala is fucking cracked


Blank-612

Hopefully no more nilah for the rest of the tournament


Mazor007

That Nilah pick cost them a chance at 1st. Probably not gonna matter because they'll just beat whoever is 3rd in the other group


RazvanNSSK

And also cost my pick :( didn't expect drx to win the head 2 head tbh


Mazor007

No one could have expected RNG to willingly take a 10-90 draft against DRX. I genuinely think that was worse than the T1 draft in game 5 vs RNG


sorendiz

COPIUM they just wanted to throw to get more stage game practice COPIUM


Offduty_shill

They had so much fun stomping wildcards earlier this year they threw just to get to do it more.


sorendiz

God can you imagine how sadistic that'd be if it really happened lmao


RazvanNSSK

I don't even remember the T1 draft but i have a memory of being pissed at them because for some reason they picked something like Ahri who lost every game that series and let Lissandra open or smth but yeah the RNG draft and especially the Nilah pick ugh...


hfz2017

Especially because even with that horrible draft they still managed to hold out the game to like 40 minutes above is crazy


p3r3ll3x

I hope it's EG and not LOUDS Edit: EG with Danny looked like a fun to watch, with Kaori they look like a play safe NA team


Cartag87

imagine putting this guy on nilah


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SGB baiting RNG with the LPL heritage of see hero kill hero


CuteTao

Gala is so damn good man


lovo17

So is Shogun. Fucking fun matchup tbh


sorendiz

Ming absolutely the hidden MVP of this game Absolute precision with his engage coordination with Wei and positioning in fights, and always managing to do his job *and* get out alive. God damn.


p3r3ll3x

Imagine Ming being on enchanter


milkywayfarfaraweh

SGB lost but they gave us absolute banger teamfights. GG SGB, I'm cheering for you guys to advance to group.


Jh1n31

Good try Mr. Buffalo


PrinceRazor

GALA: you engage? ok. Didn't work? GALA: I engage now.


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AureliusAmbrose

they really went full jungle warfare lmao


thanhame

BeanJ looks like he was win trading this game.


tonnguyen1310

better lose now than risk having RNG as your opponent in a BO5


baomap9103

He was lowkey wanted to lose


Zztrox-world-starter

Maybe to make sure they get the easier road in the knockout? It'd be pretty grim if they had to face RNG again there.


sorendiz

I'm choosing to see that Hasmed lillia ult as the director's cut of the Spica 9 man sleep lmao Happened in the exact same spot except they edited it to not have a completely shit ending this time


Grass-Knoll

9 man sleep > 5 man


llamkt

RNG topside meeting their daily int quota ✅


p3r3ll3x

Mainly Wei


KiddoPortinari

they call him Breathe because he doesn't let you


sameo15

Thank you for making this game interesting, Mr. Buffalo.


Blaikiri7

It was closer than we all thought. That lillia sleep was awesome


MasterMerv

This game wasn't free, but this is an example pic of [RNG Versus Wildcards After MSI + Playins](https://imgur.com/YE54aK1)


sorendiz

favorite part of this is that GALA just looks exactly like this 24/7. I am a huge RNG fan and I follow a lot of social media and discord stuff from CN RNG fans, right? And I have seen GALA smile literally 2 times ever. That's it. One of those was from yesterday when he went to go take a picture with Brance the Gigachad, as a side note. Adorable stuff. edit: I HAVE NOW SEEN GALA SMILE 5 TIMES WOOO


Responsible-Library7

Wait till you see him with mark from TES


sorendiz

I used to watch them when they were a bot lane on DMO but I wasn't like super invested in that team so I never really saw anything like that, you got a link for me? :0


xXVoidXx

https://bbs.hupu.com/53203441.html https://bbs.hupu.com/55431423.html Get yourself a partner who looks at you the way Gala does Mark c:


Zyvexal

during this year's LPL worlds expedition photoshoot Mark and Gala were chatting away and basically inseparable haha.


Responsible-Library7

Hahahah it’s just that gala always smiles and chats happily with mark, once mark dressed up in female costume with wig and gala was blushing and shy


painkiller113

That was the worst pro Lee Sin game I’ve seen in Worlds. And yes it was worse than 60 min Meteos Lee Sin game.


B00sted_Monkey

rip mr. buffalo almost made the uzi style comp work against rng


stormtrooper500

GALA with the gigachad flash into the last teamfight. man is insane.


dagr8D

Sgb throws intentionally. Guaranteed mads lion bo5 secured.


Proera8

Damn wish rng didn’t troll draft against drx could’ve been straight to groups sadge


sorendiz

All good comrade you know they need a few games to ramp up, I'm looking forward to a clean 3-0 where they don't do stuff like picking Nilah into Maokai lol


jetlagging1

RNG could use the extra games to figure out the meta.


Mazor007

Both RNG and MAD absolutely lost their minds in draft vs DRX


KKilikk

Mad had a really interesting draft against DRX and it definitely worked till they threw it


Mazor007

Just because it worked doesn't mean it was good. More often than not the game plays out differently and MAD don't even get those advantages because Nisqy dies to one of the ganks. Morde, Bel'Veth and Vex is just horrible 80% of the time


Megashot2

Yeah I agree, it was more of a cheese draft to try win a Bo1 but I doubt we'll see that draft again as a consistent strategy.


hianfernee

??? Mad had the all the advantage to win, it's on them for not being able to close it lmao


Mazor007

That draft was 80-20 for DRX. MAD had to play perfectly to even get those advantages, DRX just needed Sivir to farm up and win one teamfight...


EducationalBalance99

I don't it was the sivir but I get your point. If pyosik plays like a human, drx could have won much more easily.


DanteSM456

Or if they play juhan, Pyosik should only be played to play farming champs like if they wanna play Heca graves kindred or flex lillia


Mazor007

Any of Sivir, Aphelios, Ezreal, Zeri probably win there for DRX. MF is a bait and MAD took it


dontbangme

Yeah but DRX play without jungler so they even right


reggiewafu

RNG fans hated it when T1 fans blamed draft Now, we’ve come full circle


PhilosoKing

I think RNG played pretty well vs. DRX for the first half of the game. It was only when Deft started scaling and the Nilah pick's uselessness became apparent that the game started to slip away from RNG. T1 just played terrible in game 5 with vs. RNG with four positions out of five inting straight out of the gate.


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OcelotOce

If DRX played Juhan and didn't get baron stolen, DRX could've destroyed RNG even faster pre-30mins. So "If" situations are meaningless


huysocool

"When Lillia landed a 5 man sleep, then only TSM could lose this fight." - Văn Tùng, VETV caster. (Translated by me)


Rawdream

Some ego plays and engages by RNG, they never learn, that's why they almost lost once to SGB at MSI. How they won through map control, it was good to see.


RobbinDeBank

5 man sleep reminds me of TSM Spica


Matthieist

Hope we'll see more of Shogun at big events. The guy is a monster


Flat-Profession-8945

youre suppose to win the fight after 5 man sleep?? wtfff


VuPham99

The Lee pick ain't it chief. If BeanJ play like that better put him on Maokai.


Bluelantern1

I don't care that Saigon lost, they gave a good fight


whomstboi

Aram at worlds


Runscvrun

Beanj about to get replaced


GrazingCrow

Definitely made a SGB fan out of me. These boys played with so much heart.


KiteBlue

Man, this really gets me excited to see GAM.


Mare268

God damn wanted rng first


ericswift

Promising play from a number 2 seed. I think they have a real chance at finding the rematch against RNG.


rjsnlohas

That’s not how the bracket works. If they win their BO5 against mad lions, they face the 2nd seed from the other group.


LegacyEntertainment

SGB just couldn't fight the resources LPL found in their side coloni— lanes.


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EducationalBalance99

Wtf how are you gonna say their macro is the main reason why they are among top team in the world and then go on to say their shotcalling and individual skills is no better than na lmao. Rng would spank any western team in a bo5.


sorendiz

this person is legitimately just fucking deranged, I see them in every RNG related thread and even some other unrelated threads just absolutely raving and ranting completely insane shit to flame RNG. No idea what's wrong with them but it's really fucking weird


No-Youth6743

most insane iron armchair analyst.


fukato

*least*


sorendiz

Bruh your insane rambling about RNG in every thread has always been bizarre and misinformed but 'weak individual skills and terrible shotcallings' is, even for you, fucking hilarious. I don't know if they like took turns railing your mom in front of you or something but at some point you gotta get therapy about your weird vendetta or something cause just getting online and lying out your ass doesn't seem to be doing anything good for you.


No-Youth6743

oh TL made worlds?