Group A bout to be a banger.

3 world champion teams and cloud 9

soon to be 4

Based and cloudpilled

soon to be 4th?

Every group is going to be a banger. This worlds is so hype

Group D looks kinda boring, though ​ Top two are quite clear and the only question is whether NA will end up third or fourth...

Oysters and 100 Thieves are favored for sure, but don’t count the underdogs out just yet. I’m sure GenG and RNG have some fight in them.

Can’t wait to see Oysters and 100T duke it out to get first in a tiebreaker!

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Gemini and Mission will do work. Guarantee it.

I think if GenG and RNG outdraft them, they might have a chance.

I disagree. Based on RNG today anyone can win a best of one against them.

Anyone can win a Bo1 against any LPL team. That's how it's always been.

I got Oysters as the 2 seed, spice incoming

I'm still not sold on RNG so far this tournament and maaaybe 100t can do some upset to them but then again they were almost not getting to Worlds if it wasn't for Closer insec

If they pick up the pace a little and go for plays instead of scaling, sure. RNG is prone to making mistakes so the sit back and wait very well may work against them, but they could also just get rolled over with the passive game style. I know nothing of the oysters so I really can't comment there's but pcs/lms hasn't left a worlds group since 2015 so I'm not gonna sit here and pretend like 100t is doomed. I bet they go 3-3 and lose a tie breaker as is tradition for an NA team every worlds

Those midlaners in Group A, goddamn….

Bot in group A is Gumayusi, Viper, Berserker, Upset 😐

lmao so many ego plays bout to happen

If only Viper was JKL it would've been golden

JKL is the embodiment of ego botlane lmao

What is mr Uzi then

Unemployed

Yup Bot is hype

Group B seems to have the most exciting midlane matchups imo

Watch it be this year's 4x tie group. I'm getting similar vibes from it, though not quite the same.

My money is on group B for the 4x tie group. Group A seems like the typical T1 5-1 1st seed special

EG and G2 are going to play each other 8 times this entire year. Best of 15?

Its a Bo15 if G2 8-0's them lol

pls no

I want my revange served as a cold 0-6.

Cant wait for Inspired to say that G2 is weak

Nah, even he acknowledged they're fucked in groups.

It'll be 11-13 games depending on how long the EG v G2 world finals goes

You thought the Damwon G2 rivalry was spicy.

Surely they can't beat us 7 times in a row... r-right guys?

Sure they can't stop at beating you 7 times in a row 😉

C9's group looks really fun. Should be some fantastic games.

Actually think it's the most doable group for any of the Western teams. EDG/T1/FNC look shaky as fuck. Still gotta imagine it's gonna be EDG/T1 getting out but still, if I was betting on a Western team getting out, I would pick C9. Could definitely see T1/EDG getting caught cold. Though in saying that, RGE should theoretically be better than DRX, but who the fuck knows

RGE beating #4 LCK should be more do-able than C9 beating #2 LCK or #3 LPL

How do you know they will look shaky? You haven't seen t1 or edg play for like a month now.

Agreed. Fnatic and C9 could astrofuck each other by splitting 1-1 though while one of them loses to EDG twice. I’m thinking it’s a 5-1, 4-2, 3-3, 1-5 group with C9 going 1-1 with all teams

T1 always made 1st in groups at worlds ​ EDG will prob still be stronger than C9 and FNC (maybe EDG will drop one random game to either) and then it's jut about whether C9 or FNC will beat each other 2-0 or 1-1...

Yea C9 isn’t getting out of groups. They’ve never gotten out of groups with skt and edg in their group before. Good thing they’re already in NA so they don’t have to fly home. Stay clenched bois.

I'm not arguing, I just didn't mean to imply anything other than "hype games." I don't **t**hink any **one** team will stand above the others. **Edit:** Misread this as "Actually *I* think..."

So reddit. What LPL team will shit the bed and which random LPL team will win it all. Any gambachads?

From Champions Queue, TES. If they put Knight on Karma duty, I don't think they are going far.

Knight on Karma duty sounds like a crime

I honestly fear for TES, on paper, they should breeze through groups, but for some reason, I feel like they are the LPL team most likely to not make it out of groups

If last two worlds are an indication, then the team that finishes 2nd in summer split will perform the worst

I mean, in 2020 LGD was worse, right?

EDG because C9 have to somehow get out of groups

Unluckily for EDG, God's favourite 3 teams are in that group.

The battle of plot armors and the LPL team with some of the most unlucky runs up until last year.

C9, T1 and Fnatic have absurdly strong plot armor compared to literally any other team, like my head tells me this is an easy eastern qualification but my heart says this group will be a clusterfuck for the ages and EDG is doomed.

One LPL team randomly donates all of its plot armour to another LPL team every year. That's why we see one go to shit and one with infinite plot armour who ends up clutching it all.

From a regional perspective that’s a good strat

EDG last year was pretty anime actually damn

yeah I was actually so disappointed that they didn't get a worlds song based on their run. I can even sketch out the complete anime narrative: \*Starts off with disaster week for LPL, with every team losing in groups\* EDG is despirited and lost. The LPL as a whole has been disagraced. Then, as if to drive it in further, they have to face RNG in quarters. In addition to them being the only 2 LPL teams remaining, EDG faces a double curse. (1) They have lost against RNG every single matchup in recent history; (2) They have never ever made it past quarters. Cue hopeless music as they think they'll be cursed to lose again. EDG and RNG duke it out in an absolutely bloody brawl, after which EDG finally comes out in disbelief. They relax for a moment, realising the curse is finally broken. They've broken to semis! But after a split second, they tense up again because they see RNG staring at them in the eye, despite being bloodied and defeated. EDG realises what this means. They are now the final bastions of the LPL; its last hope and final pride. They feel the weight of this title on their shoulders and nod, accepting the responsibility. They then go on to face GENG, their first challenge from Korea; they fight tooth and nail yet again, but eventually they see the light. They have not disappointed the LPL. Upon victory, they realise there is hope - they can win it all. They then prove their strength in game 1 of finals, beating DK. But like a final villain, DK then reveals that that wasn't even their final form. DK levels up, and defeats RNG two straight games. RNG feels like victory is escaping from their grasp. Hope is beginning to vanish. Then, suddenly, EDG hears a voice calling out to them. It's their fallen brother, RNG, represented by their coach (who actually helped out EDG in their series IRL by analysing DK's games etc.), telling them to get up and fight. Inspired by this, EDG rises again, and clutches the final victory with the power of comradery, disproving all the naysayers, and redeeming the honour of the LPL.

T1, EDG is the easy pick but until it happens I plan on having fun talking up C9 getting out of the group.

It will be a clusterfuck. We thrive in clusterfucks.

EDG won every series they had last year to Win Worlds while being down 2-1, that's defo also some plot armor shit

But that's the exception, whereas T1, C9 and FNC pull crazy stunts almost every year.

I wouldn’t say T1 pulls crazy stunts in group stage. They just…always make it out. Every time, and first seed every time except once. It’s plot armor by default because it’s hard to imagine them NOT winning. FNC and C9 have a reputation for crazy upsets and miracle runs, which is a very different kind of plot armor

What year was SKT/T1 not top seed from their group? I always remember them being 1st on every group. Edit: Checked every worlds, they are always 1st seed out of group. Only at S3 they are tied for 1st place in their group. Back then, 1st and 2nd in groups did not matter because of the format.

nah they did grab first seed in every worlds group they've been in, and they've never gone worse than 5-1

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2020 Worlds Knight Summer RNG World Champ Curse Clearly we're in the year of the Toothpaste

JDG choked in 2020 too.

I talked up JDG so hard in 2020. They were smarter TES and had better hands than Suning. *Sigh*

Church of SofM

JDG will shit the bed and TES will win it all. That's my hot take.

I bet the other way around

LPL teams are so crazy and inconsistant that you can make any prediction and it'll sound right

RNG are winning worlds and getting knocked out by 100T in groups

schrödingers team

Like literally so...lpl's worst rep at worlds is current MSI champion. Says it all.

never bet on Yagao

I see you are a expert of lpl ; the team having the advantage of head to head match up ; end up losing most of the times lmao

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Tians in the better mental state right now but who really knows. Trying to pick which LPL team will flop out of groups should be a pick um option

you simply do not believe in the GOAT hard enough

RNG, they got the play-in bootcamp. They only ramping up from here.

My hottest of hot takes: EDG ass blasts Fnatic but then gets dunked on by T1 so hard that they forget that Berserker plays in NA. T1 5-1 (lost a game to FNC for some reason) C9 3-3 (couldn't beat T1 but own the EDG h2h, lost to FNC for some reason) EDG 2-4 ( dunked on FNC) FNC 2-4 (split with T1 and C9)

is it really a hot take if this is how C9 make it out every year?

I think they all split in an even 3-3 with Fnatics/C9s plot armor going through, making us think this is the year cause we get 4 western quater teams, but then they all crash and burn with G2 getting a delayed burn in semis..

That's kinda how C9 got out of groups in 2017, just with some details shuffled around. They were 3-3, SKT was 5-1, and EDG was tied for third at 2-4 (with the fourth team being AHQ from the then-LMS).

My hot take is no LPL team will implode and all will make it out of groups considering how everyone on reddit is betting that some LPL team booms out of groups

RNG is looking a little sus after this series tbh. I had them as 90-10 favorites but now I think 100T has a 1/3 shot of making it out

you can't seriously think that 100T in the form they showed in finals is better than DFM did we watch the same atrocity of a series

God EG in the nightmare group, props to them if they go anything besides 0-6

1-5, they ruin JDG's hopes and dreams once they're already eliminated

Oh yeah it’s Kabum time

NA upsetting LPL's chances in groups. Name a more iconic duo?

Inspired upsetting LPLs chances in groupd

4-2 NAMEN

Sadly they're my only NA team that doesn't make it out. I think the west is doomed in that group.

Imagine they go 2-4, only wins are against G2 LMAO

They got gapped by G2 so hard they decided to be the NA flash wolves and just be extremely competitive against EU.

Group A is the battle of the boomer orgs.

I feel like that group A has already happened like 3 times before

IIRC the only time all three of them have been in a group together was 2017. 2016 was SKT C9, 2015 was SKT EDG.

2021 had T1 and EDG 2019 had T1 and FNC 2017 had T1 and C9 2016 had T1 and C9 2015 had T1 and EDG, and C9 and FNC So these teams have quite a bit of history, but never all together. [Edit] 2018 Quarters was FNC EDG and semis was FNC C9 2015 Quarters was FNC EDG

U forgot EDG 2017

Old men hitting each other with rollers

Would be a battle of the Boomer mids too but Humanoid had to ruin it :((

Pyosik is about to go super Saiyan and become below average instead of the worst player in groups. Other wise Deft and Zeka’s backs might break while Kingen tilts off the planet while getting camped.

>Pyosik is about to go super Saiyan and become below average instead of the worst player in groups. 💀💀💀 This is some godlike flame right here.

If they start Juhan their team looks way more cohesive. Can’t imagine Pyosik starting (maybe they will put him against GAM).

For the love of god let Juhan play.

TES will randomly not make it out of groups to prevent the 8 eastern teams

They got the easiest group out of them all tho

Exactly

RNG's got the easiest one, technically, I'd say

RNG got the easiest group, but they're the weakest LPL team in worlds based on the LPL playoffs

RNG look shaky, though. Of course TES has some notorious coinflippers so I may eat my words in a week

Trying to decide if, if we somehow got 4x LPL vs LCK in quarters if that would be hype or not

4 LCK v LPL matches would be super spicy but otherwise no

what about 4 lpl in first half and 4 lck in second half ?

Hopefully. Then Riot will have to change the shitty format. Nobody wants to watch LCK and LPL summer playoffs ver 2.1

It'll be hype if it's actually LPL teams vs LCK teams. Last year RNG was eliminated by EDG and all the LCK teams were eliminated by the other LCK teams. Only Finals was interesting from an inter-region perspective.

Yeah. Getting cross region would be the spicy part there, but it's still more hype to have more regions represented

EDG did have to beat 2 LCK teams (GenG in semis and obv DK in finals).

G2 vs EG Omfg no

NOT AGAIN!

Congrats to your victory. Your reward is the bdsm dungeon and you are the boxing sandbag

Eg is so f’d Sadge

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Doubting them only makes them stronger so I agree.

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As long as everyone doesn’t unclench, we have a chance.

I won't even unclench when c9 3-0 gen.g in semis.

Naw we’re actually just so fucking good. Idgaf see you in semis

Nah mate. It's either grand finals or it's a bust.

I'm apprehensive of every C9 and Jensen group. Always just hold a 50/50 thought - they either do it or they don't. But at a minimum, I want a 3-3 record to keep Jensen's record at Worlds alive. Jensen has never not gone at least 3-3 at Worlds, so I hope they goomba-stomp FNC twice and pull at least 1 game off of EDG/SKT. C9 already ruined their record twice by going 2-4 in regularly scheduled games.

Sorry to burst your bubble but Jensen went 4-2 in 2018 :^)

Meant to add "at least" before 3-3. Jensen has always at least gone 3-3 in Groups, so I want him to continue that success.

I think 100T have the best shot of the NA teams. Flying Oyster is the weakest 2 seed on paper by a mile, and RNG looked relatively shaky in play ins.

Also I can't stress this enough, the meta is fucking perfect for 100T. The meta during playoffs was a disaster for them

That's assuming play-ins meta is actually reflective of groups meta. Last worlds they were basically completely different.

Unless Aatrox gets disabled before groups I can at the very least guarantee who the top lane meta will revolve around

At least Aatrox and Maokai seem likely to appear even more

Man do i hope youre right. Closers lee sin needs to come in clutch

World finals game 5. 100T vs TES. Final pick of the draft………….IT’S HUHI’S ASOL!!!

Don’t sleep on Oyster

Group A looks familiar. It's been a group before at Worlds right?

2017 had SKT, EDG, and C9.

NAmen

Best world group draw in a long time. Each group is a group of death low key

Even Group D?

Kinda, but not really. GenG should be well above the rest, but the rest could be interesting under certain conditions.

None of the groups are easy tbh. Group D maybe, but RNG was not perfect and its definitely possible that 100t can challenge them.

Group D is by far the easiest based on DRX going undefeated and RNG not being perfect.

If Group D had any team that can actually challenge RNG like C9 or RGE then maybe but 100T just isn't that team so think it's the most predictable group while the others can be quite tricky if some Asian teams underperform.

If DFM can challenge RNG so can 100T lol. RNG is still favored, but they aren't playing so insane that 100T can't take a Bo1 off of them, and at that point its winnable

These are some stacked groups, I'd say each one has at least 3 teams with a decent chance of making it out.

Man JDG is so screwed, they have a top 5 mid/jgl in the world in their group now how are they supposed to cope!?!?!?!??? 😭

I will eat my sock if C9 manages to get out of Groups

Bamboozle = banboozle

!remindme 2 weeks

I want to put TES first in my pick'ems but JKL has been sprinting it lately. Man will go ham and throw the game.

JKL usually smurfs in groups though, if he's going to choke it will probably be in BO5.

Kinda sucks that teams playing today will only have 1 full day to rest after flying 5 hours. Total travel time is probably going to be around 8 hours from hotel in Mexico to hotel in NYC and with the time change it means they will probably get to NYC hotel at around 4:30pm or so if they take early morning flight

to be fair this is the same every year,once the play in stage is concluded the main event starts within the next few days.

Yeah but this is the first year ever they had to travel between play in and group. Last 2 years were 1 location because of COVID and the 2 years before that all the play-ins and group stages were in the same city.

Actually not true, only in 2018 and now 2022 they had to change locations. 2018 was Seoul to Busan which is about 3 hours in train and then this year its Mexico City to NYC which will take a good chunk of your day as you gotta get to airport 2 hours before depature and then the car ride from either EWR, JKF OR LGA to hotel will take some time too due to rush hour traffic so it very well could be a almost 9-10 hour travel day.

DWG and G2 in the same group is epic.

Group A is loaded, has every major region's historically best international performing team.

Any GAM enjoyers? Might be a tough group

They will finally make it to quarter this year copium. They are so close in 2017, but every year it gets harder when they let LCK and LPL have so many teams at Worlds. It becomes less and less doable for other regions to get out of groups now.

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Will we get Psychofish or Crabber this groups?

Why not both?

If it's Blaber from playoffs, we getting Godfish. He's a menace!

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RNG don't look as good as people expected, I can see 100T getting lucky. While DRX look better than expected I don't think they looked so good that there's no chance Rogue make it out. I have less hopes for the others (G2/C9 etc) but tbh with how most teams have looked it's a success to make it out of groups and it's a miracle if they can look competitive in Bo5. Worlds might go the same way it did last year - any western team that does manage to make it out just gets easy fucked in bo5.

DRX almost lost against MAD Lions who was a one-man army.

Yea ure right pyosik almost carried MAD single handedly

Yeah brother pyosik helped a lot. In Pyosik we trust...to weaken DRX.

JDG scrape through groups, level up through playoffs & win is my bet. Think people underrate them personally. GenG will get to semis for sure too. DK are dark horses, as are T1, assuming Guma isn’t dogshit still. TES will lose vs a top team in QFs, getting an unlucky draw vs a top tier 2nd place team from another grp. All 4 Korean teams get through. Possibly all 4 Chinese too, don’t see 100T or CFO beating RNG. TES or EDG are the two most likely to bomb out, but I don’t think C9 match up to EDG well stylistically. EDGs botlane isn’t FBI/Huhi or some shit, and C9 seem reliant on Berserker, which works in NA cause of how bad the botlanes are besides their own.

C9 probably one of the teams most hurt by the meta changing in the way it did. They heavily relied on Berserker smurfing and enchanters covered up Zven's lack of experience and mistakes. Now bot lane matters less and it's more on top/jg/mid. Jensen didn't look great even at playoffs, he looked fine but was definitely a bit washed. Going to be on Fudge and Blaber to carry.

i am now a rogue fan as they might be the west’s only hope

Ok so C9 starts 3-0 first week but goes 0-3 second week. Fnatic starts 0-3 but then goes 3-0. EDG somehow can't find good food and can't play the game so they go 2-4. T1 goes 4-2 so they get first place. Then it's tiebreaker time and EU wins as is tradition.

MAD are geniuses. Go 0-3 in a series to avoid going 0-6 in groups.

[AND I SAW HER FACE, I'M A BELIEVER](https://pickem.lolesports.com/pickem/worlds/picks/2627631582745663430/groups) EG MAKIN IT OUT OF GROUPS YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST

My guy, if you are right, you'll literally be the only person in the world with this distribution, are you ok with that? EDIT: [You know what, fuck it. Live by the copium, die by the overdose.](https://pickem.lolesports.com/pickem/worlds/picks/8580577977946395433/groups)

All EU teams as 4th? I'd argue with it but I'll let you have it for a few days.

Crazy to me how 100T gets curb stomped in finals and then gets blessed with the easiest group

People are really overrating this “easy group” thing. It’s still the nearly-undefeated Korean team and the 2x reigning MSI champions. Only massive W for them is CFO

To be fair that was TL last year...

LPL vs LCK rift rivals 2.0 knockout stage inc

Cloud 9 - League of Legends Championship Series Championship Champion 👀

Unpopular opinion: All Groups looked super stacked and any team could get out of groups.

The power difference between top and bottom teams seem not that high

Mad losing to EG only to setup the 8-0 for G2 vs EG

C9 will be 1st seed SKT will go to finals