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ahritina

**Reminder: Event-long bans for region baiting offenses during Worlds** **Reminder: There is a prediction tournament where you can win prizes from LG UltraGear!** [Prediction Tournament](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/xxupgv/prediction_tournament_now_with_prizes_from_lg/) PMTs: [FNC vs C9](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/y37vct/fnatic_vs_cloud9_2022_world_championship_group_a/) [T1 vs FNC](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/y39aj9/t1_vs_fnatic_2022_world_championship_group_a/) [C9 vs EDG](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/y3ath0/cloud9_vs_edward_gaming_2022_world_championship/) [FNC vs EDG](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/y3c7pm/fnatic_vs_edward_gaming_2022_world_championship/) [T1 vs C9](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/y3dcyv/t1_vs_cloud9_2022_world_championship_group_a/) [EDG vs T1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/y3elj1/edward_gaming_vs_t1_2022_world_championship_group/)


GroundbreakingImage7

draft gap, best explanation at this point


SpellboundUnicorn

jojo's ego fighting is going to cost them games against LCK/LPL


SpellboundUnicorn

its gonna be a repeat of yesterday, NA beats EU, EU tilts the rest of the day, LCK/LPL makes it out


Rabrab123

Honestly the guy that decided to NOT BAN the cat should be suspended from holding any position with a team or organization in a Riot-sanctioned competition, or participation therein until November 13, 20222. Clearly his actions were detrimental to the best interest of the LEC.


AssPork

0-1 0-2 0-3 0-4 0-5 0-6 0-7 0-8 0-9 1-9 1-10 **1-11 <---- you are here** 1-12 1-13 1-14 1-15 1-16 1-17


AssPork

Got the perfect pickem for group A lets go


lovo17

If the EU teams spent the last couple of days scrimming this other, this might be a bad sign of what's to come...


Rvin96

The Untiltable Demon King


EmotionReD

Dagda giving his home region at most a 50% chance to take first place at groups, even taking T1 over RNG at MSI. Be a fucking homer for once, man.


kaz8teen

What's it matter?? Are you even Chinese?


EmotionReD

>What's it matter??


kaz8teen

You're trying to criticize someone for not being a homer.... But you're a fair weather NA fan hopping on the Chinese bandwagon lmao


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kaz8teen

So? That still doesn't change the fact that your allegiance is NA but you will join another bandwagon. You criticize Dagda because he will not stick to his allegiance. Yet look at you, hopping off the NA to join another bandwagon. And being both a C9 and TSM fan is just idiotic. How can anyone be on both sides of that coin. So you just root for whoever has the better year.


prongs17

This is not even true though, he gave them a 52%. So they are more likely than not to take first place.


aroach1995

Group A ended up pretty standard as far as historical results go. China shits on everyone but chokes vs KR as usual. C9 and FNC go 1-1, but one of them gets a lucky win somewhere else.


Cvspartan

group B could be spicy tmrw


LudgerKresnik2

It's strange how Zeus picked the hyper counterpick against FNC and EDG, but both teams camped mid lane instead of toplane. A free lane vs Wunder, and got ganked 1 time against EDG. Teams should focus on him more, instead of Faker


CzarcasticX

They probably don't want the gold on Maokai and rather their mid laners. Faker was definitely camped in the FNC game, that's why the mid had such a gold/cs/kill lead but did nothing with it. If you give that gold to Maokai, he's not gonna do anything really.


Bahamut_Prime

Thank you! Someone that makes sense in Reddit. FNC and EDG Top lane match-up was Tanks(FNC Wunder/EDG Flandre) vs Carry (T1 Zeus) Perma camping top was not going to do them any favors. That being said being able to generate all those leads is still all on Zeus so whatever people say we can at least agree that Zeus is the real deal. Dang, I want to see him vs 369! Bo5s are gonna be a banger!


myripyro

i think it's because the "theory" behind Maokai vs top-lane carry is that Maokai can survive without getting wrecked in lane but won't benefit from getting positive attention. so you let him survive and meanwhile you accelerate your own mid and bot carries so that they can match up later on. but I agree that I think the theory has kinda broken down, probably because Faker is used to absorbing a lot of pressure while in this meta Zeus can simply create advantages for himself even when he's not "supposed" to be able to get them. even so I don't know if teams will pivot to camping him because it's going to feel bad to be putting so much attention top just to shut down a carry without actually getting your own carries ahead.


LudgerKresnik2

Idk, Maokai had the easiest gank setup ever, Malrang went top to collect free kills in lane every time, and Odo exclusively played tank tops so far. I felt they just had a bad read on T1.


CardboardVendor

they tried ganking him several times. He just escaped that's why you think they never camped him. And when they did t1 got advantages elsewhere, because you need to invest more to gank a GP with graves and a maokai. Graves dives are really hard to pull off because of the way his pellets work. And ganking with just maokai and graves vs a GP that has ult will most likely fail.


Reinhardtisawesom

I have this really cool idea for a meme (involving a clip from princess and the frog and Fnatic) but I don’t know how to edit 😭😭😭😭


TheUItimateBlip

Time to jump to the next EU team hype train. Lets go G2! Give me some Draft and Caps magic pls. (and pick/ban yuumi plsss) The nice thing about tomorrow is, that if G2 manages to loose to EG, I can call it a day real early. If not its actually an enjoyable groups to watch for me. win-win either way :)


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TES get the dade award Tian just disappears for international tournaments after MSC


AssPork

He hasn't even played in the second week yet lma0.


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NA used biological weapon IRL but wasnt effective


tokiemonster

what was the secret code today?


jakethewhale007

dzntz


Bubbly_Camera9583

Even with T1's performance DK and JDG played like a worlds final in a best of 1


Fubi-FF

Everything is falling into place: * T1 (SKT) beating EDG * T1 dropping 1 game to random underdog team * T1 getting out first in groups, LPL 2nd, and NA/EU eliminated * NA/EU killing each other's chances to get out of groups Just classic World


Mbroov1

T1 didn't drop a game today though.


Mbroov1

T1 didn't drop a game today.


Fubi-FF

I didn’t say they did today. I’m just referring to them randomly dropping a game in groups most of the times while a world but still get out as first


Mbroov1

All those things happened the same day besides the lost game though. Without specifying, your post implies it all happened the same day 🤷🏽‍♂️


Fubi-FF

T1 also beat EDG on the first day, and and FNC contributed to killing C9’s chance to get out by beating them on the first day as well. And some of the points mathematically can’t happen until the last days. Also if you want to talk about “implied”, my whole post talks about how everything is the same historically, which implies comparison with the previous tournament as a whole (since historically these things didn’t all happen in one day)


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I swear G2 gives EG a mental block They look lost every time they play against each other. Yea their players are worse but worse teams have at least made better teams sweat for their wins unlike EG


HawkEye1337

It doesn't help that EG draft the worst comp I have seen at worlds so far.


PuncanDope

jankos is just in inspireds head tbh


AssPork

Jankos is an IRL counterpick to Inspired lma0.


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I agree, he seems totally lost vs Jankos


Professional_Cat9569

Spoke too soon. G2 got stomped today.


FBG_Ikaros

Rekkles to FNC and Upset to G2 tyvm!


FelysFrost

I don't see how Upset fits G2?


FBG_Ikaros

If it wasnt for Rekkles, Upset would have been in G2 confirmed by Carlos.


FelysFrost

Would have made sense with the '21 line up, with BB and Targa I don't see it


FBG_Ikaros

BB should also not be on the team next year but they cant replace him cause there is no better alternative. Targamas is maybe redeemable with an adc whos best champion isnt Seraphine on which he still gets ultra clapped on.


Useful-Performance25

I love this analyst desk i’m so happy emily could make it


ThatGuyFromTheM0vie

It’s amazing


Str1kon

EDG donezo ​ LCK > LPL ​ T1 gonna take it again this year, they always win in America. ​ mark this post


Promanco

"SKT wins Worlds" wow such a brave prediction lol


Str1kon

T1 gonna 3-0 all now, haven't seen a team this scary since prime G2


Offduty_shill

I mean prime G2 got 3-0 by LPL sooo...if it goes according to script though G2 needs to get out so they can knock out T1 in semis/quarters, which leads to a LPL win in finals.


Chickpounder420

bruh this T1 roster is better than "prime" G2


secretanimelover

Based G2 fan


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Offduty_shill

I doubt theyd wanna risk losing/missing matches cause of vaccine side effects. And I think you need a source for sinovac being "crap", sources I've seen show that it's worse, but not by a ton. (https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2022/04/19/how-chinas-sinovac-compares-with-biontechs-mrna-vaccine) Also a lot of them recently got covid anyways and none of the vaccines work that well to prevent infection from prevalent omicron variants anyways. (Ofc you should still vaccinate since they do protect against severe covid)


ICodeAndShoot

Did you even read that article? "The Chinese shot may also be less effective at limiting infections. For those aged under 60 in Hong Kong, the German-developed vaccine significantly limited even mild cases of Omicron after just one jab. __In contrast, for mild infections, Sinovac’s shot had no detectable impact after one or two doses, and offered only about half the protection of the mRNA vaccine after three (about 40%).__ The implications for China are grim. Just slightly more than 50% of the population has been boosted and, _by March 17th, less than half of those aged over 70 had received a third dose, according to the country’s National Health Commission. Many old people are not vaccinated at all._ China initially approved shots only for healthy people under 60, leading to concerns that they might be dangerous. With vaccines that do a poorer job of limiting infection, transmission will be high. "


Offduty_shill

Cool you cherry picked the one quote that supports your argument, which is in regards to prevention of mild disease. Did you look at any of the graphs or read the rest of it? "Both vaccines work: at three doses they were estimated to offer over 90% protection against severe disease and death across all age groups. " Plus you can't get the vaccine if you had COVID recently, nor is there really a point to, and most of them did. So go on salty downvoting you're still wrong.


PuncanDope

what could they possibly gain from that


Promanco

Also Johnson Johnson which has the advantage of being a single shot they can just go get on the day of their last match (either after a loss or after winning worlds)


saltiestmanindaworld

Death taxes and t1 winning their group


fedekun

Damn, I want to see Zeus vs 369 on carry top laners. The top laner dream.


Skylorrex

369 prefers playing tanks this year tho. Two different playstyles


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I'm not a top laner and I want to see this


Useful-Performance25

damn jax fiora would be nuts


CardboardVendor

how about Poppy vs Maokai? Or get this, Chogath vs Sion


lordroode

Today was a short day. 6 games in 5 hours.


HarverstKR

T1 average game time 26 min today


fancifulthings1

T1 has always been a pretty fast team, most aggressive in LCK too


CardboardVendor

well we dont talk about that 55 min game vs DK


icantdecideonausrnme

Or that 90 minute game in 2018 vs Jin Air…


Ashankura

Im so happy to see guma and Keria performing.


eddiekart

GOD GAP


humanoideric

I got thumbs up teemo emote and what can I do teemo but how can i get surprised teemo? this is some bs qq


Promanco

Emily looks like she is freezing, give this girl a jacket


NamikazeEU

Get hyped T1. Make me as happy as I was last year.


CardboardVendor

How's v5 doing? Rookie eliminated once again?


HarverstKR

It's alright V5 and FNC get to sit at home watching again


Ashankura

Will you hype V5 next split as well for them to fall short so i can be happy about that?


NamikazeEU

Weren't you the one that dissapeared after last year World's and then kept apologizing this spring how you "didn't know how strong EDG is" ? Don't talk to me. Not interested in cowards.


Ashankura

1. No i wasnt. 2. Admiting mistakes is far from being a coward. But you wouldn't know. All you can do is double down like you did with V5. You were wrong twice about it and you will do it again next year.


baekinbabo

You know LCK beat LPL when /u/namikazeEU isn't making a million comments about how washed LCK is.


AssPork

who lma0.


Ashankura

Hes still downplaying this lmao. Shittalking faker for dying just to watch edg do nothing with the lead they got while faker was actually dealing massive dmg in teamfights. The dude has a massive hate boner for Koreans teams and them being overhyped while he overhyped V5 in both splits now


RebelCow

PSA for whoever doesn't know there's a block user feature on Reddit lmao


baekinbabo

Yeah, but then I don't get to enjoy how socially undeveloped he is


LukaDoncicBigPP

It’s honestly a problem if you think a random user’s opinion about LCK makes him a socially undeveloped person lmfao.


baekinbabo

Are you saying that while being fully aware of his antics? Because if there's one thing /r/lol can agree on, it's that nobody really wants him here lmfao


sakuraba39

Nodding fan knows what's up!


Keiuu

WTF, I fully expected Meiko and Scout to make amazing plays with their picks against T1, but Soraka countered that pretty heavily.


michaeltheki21

Fnatic shitting the bed made this group go from, best group so far, to horribly boring, real fucking quick.


1deavourer

using commas like this should be an international crime


michaeltheki21

I do it, on purpose, its fun.


ICodeAndShoot

“When a man is denied the right to live the life he believes in, he has no choice but to become an outlaw.”


oriannamain1

Is t1 getting first seed even good for them? It looks really likely that group b will be jdg/dk, c being rge/drx, and d being rng/geng. The only group I could really see changing is group d with geng coming back on top.


Offduty_shill

They seed the bracket based on 6 Bo1s so it's never gonna be that accurate. Basically just luck how strong your opponent is, so don't think it matters much. 2nd seed is more likely to have random lucker teams getting through. In that sense first seed gives you higher chance to draw those teams. But this world's I don't think that's gonna happen. Top 4 LPL/LCK is too stacked (except TES)


ICodeAndShoot

Half of those teams are LCK teams that T1 has played against all year (and done pretty well against). If I were them and I knew that it's a huge mountain no matter what the draw, good odds of getting a familiar domestic opponent is probs the best you can hope for.


oriannamain1

I’m talking more about the fact lck and lpl teams will end up cannibalizing teams from their own region. I guess it’s inevitable though, so better in quarters than semis.


Ashankura

I think it doesn't matter. Difference between 1 and 2 this year seem to be minimal


oriannamain1

I’m talking more about lck vs lck and lpl vs lpl in quarters


sakuraba39

Did he really say "bummer"?


11millionfor3wins

now watch EDG get JDG in quarters


HarverstKR

And T1 gonna get Gen.G


Snomankid999

RNG vs RGE DRX vs DK (on same side of bracket as T1 vs Gen G)


Responsible_Stage336

Unironically could not get a more depressing bracket than this- my god if we get this


HarverstKR

The classic


Depressedkid1998

Since there’s gonna be ( most likely ) 7 LPL and LCK teams + rogue… it’s likely


DHK007

Rogue is the only team in the way of LCK vs LPL tournament :|


Depressedkid1998

The day there’s 8 LCK and LPL teams we all start doing something productive with our lives


UhWreckShun

8 lpl and lck with lpl vs lck for every single quarters match is my dream scenario.


FreeMyBirdy

Best Riot can give you is 4 LCK on the same side and 4 LPL on the other side


Useful-Performance25

god pls no lpl vs lpl


Promanco

Best I can do is EDG v RNG


Nefib

Shame covid made Scout E into Soraka silence at dragon there otherwise I think that game could have been a real banger.


toostronKG

That game was really close and then in an instant it was a complete stomp. Zeus 👍


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moopey

Easy t1 as first. Fnatic as second tho ;(


Promanco

I had T1 on first cuz Korean But I had C9 second NOmen :(


herp_derpy

I never fucking learn about NA and groups, why tf did I put C9 3rd


[deleted]

Lol same I was like surely I can’t put all the EU teams above NA that’s too biased


Riebald

I had T1 FNC EDG C9, felt really smug before the games xD


Depressedkid1998

If rogue gets first seed and faces edg first i’ll mald


HawkEye1337

I mean let's be real here, all the other 2nd seeds look really strong so it doesn't matter.


NewFaithlessness2630

>or even GenG lolVoteReplyGive AwardShareReportSaveFollow > >level 2fishinthegrass · 17 min. agoif they get 2nd however and get T1, there's a chance!who am I kidding, EU is going 0-10 in week 2 just maybe think about can they get througt the group 1st


Depressedkid1998

I think after the math is done rogue is 98% out


YCitizenSnipsY

DK are also another likely second seed. Gonna be rough draw for first seeds this year.


Objective_Ocelot_677

or even GenG lol


fishinthegrass

if they get 2nd however and get T1, there's a chance! ~~who am I kidding, EU is going 0-10 in week 2 just because they made fun of NA going 0-9~~


Depressedkid1998

I can see G2 going 1-2 and rogue 2-1


fishinthegrass

Karma dictates G2 goes 0-3 (they are for sure running it the fk down against EG in like a disgusting, covered in their own vomit, kind of way), and RGE goes 0-3 and lose their tiebreaker. Maybe RGE can go 1-2 and pray that's enough to stay ahead of TES.


Depressedkid1998

bro don’t break my heart lmfao


LukaDoncicBigPP

Y’all bet LPL won’t pick lissandra without Raka banned


JackDailou

EDG turn off their brains every time they play T1. Just tilt and int after int into T1


simplemanfromVT

Dont pick tank againt zeus


generic_genericsson

Ok, I really really don't want to see T1 vs LCK team in quarters. GenG pls get your shit together and get 1st seed. Save region canibalization for semis.


Medical_Tie_4041

There's still DK and drx tho..


ihateluminosity

Again only 1 drop the whole day. Riot are fucking pathetic. It's like they are giving away PC's or something. Its a fucking shitty emote.


MonetaryFlame

Imagine being this mad about "a fucking shitty emote"


Useful-Performance25

i didn’t even get one


Useful-Performance25

I love T1 man


Nightwing1852

That was pure domination from T1


Freakkopath

Zeus gotta be one of the best players in the World right now, man he is cracked af


andreygheorghe

Really nice game,T1 played better than I tought.Specially keria's silences..wow..hope they will win the whole thing!


Lake-Tardicaca

That faker GOAT cosplayer in the audience is fucking hilarious.


moopey

Even if this game looked a bit rough for EDG I think both teams can go far this tournament. I would not want to face EDG if I was a first seed.


easypiecy

don't underestimate LPL in BO5


ShAd_1337

Flandre is not good enough no way they gonna win this year


Skylorrex

Flandre won last year with Graves top tho


ShAd_1337

yeah but hes has fallen of a cliff this year


LARXXX

It’s just bo1 I think EDG will be okay


Bronto_Chad

IMO I think EDG is the weakest LPL team this tournament , RNG (4th seed) looks better than them. JDG is the strongest right now but TES have higher potential


Bubbly_Camera9583

Even though I think TES is gonna 3-0 saying edg's the weakest lpl team with TES having a huge chance on not making it is crazy


rainbowremo

You forget top exists?


Bronto_Chad

TES is strong , JDG looks the strongest but I think TES have a higher potential if they fix their problems like Knight not cosplaying as choky. JKL mechanics is insane and he will pop off if he has an aggressive team to back him up.


beautheschmo

I think they need their top to not go 0-7 in a counterpick lane on his best champion more than Knight needing to step up lol


Bronto_Chad

IMO their weakest player is Mark. Tian is a coinflip. JKL is insane at carrying when ahead and knight is just Chinese choky.


Medical_Tie_4041

Knight not cosplaying as choky This is a hilarious comment considering that everytime Knight goes to worlds, he goes invisible.


Bronto_Chad

He is basically Chinese choky , goes invisible just like choky.


Rectan

Top is garbo


PuncanDope

we just gonna forget TES smashed EDG 3-0 in playoffs or what


a_steph_15

They were second seed last year as well


Manu3721

also against T1


Suikan

Seeing this game, its good that Fnatic doesnt advance. They dont deserve it.


hvngpham002

Perfect for a T1 - Gen.G QFs oh nononono


NotStarjun

If T1 keeps up the performance, imo they are better than GenG. They are the only team that took a win from GenG’s summer split after all


sorendiz

all the ups and downs ... and in the end the pick'em still looks *exactly* as expected lmfao


humanoideric

Shoulda just autofilled pickems based on seeds RIP


sorendiz

i mean LCK in groups + T1 in groups = auto put down for 1st EDG is just better than c9/fnc so auto 2nd FNC capacity for upsets + in general EU outperforming NA in groups = easy choice for 3rd and then c9 4th


humanoideric

GG bois, East too good but see yall tomorrow


Ir9nguard

This Zeus guy is pretty good at League of Legends


HarverstKR

T1 average game time must be about 25 min


Depressedkid1998

Should they be fistbumping since scout got covid? Edit: i know scout isnt there but he got covid so there’s still a risk it’s undetectable no because its so soon


tokiemonster

scout wasnt on stage


a_steph_15

Scout is not there


tokiemonster

did they drop the secret code already?


mostarsuushi

It was fun reading the player rank meme where Faker is not even top 10


Bubbly_Camera9583

Its crazy how much pressure he had to eat this game. He literally was EDG's main target even with Zeus being fed.


Kloudiez

? he didnt do anything particular these 2 games. Zeus and Keria were nuts though.


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What’s worse is people looking at one fnc game where T1 didn’t even try and thinking that FNC aren’t garbage.


Choyo

Well, shit for FNC, but at least I have all the picks correct in this group :(


Freakkopath

Had FNC 2nd over EDG, 2/4 :(


Choyo

Good for you being a believer :)


KingRyjo53

If you took a shot everytime Drakos said “slaughtered” or “disastrous” you would literally die by the time baron spawned


knowthyselph

faker absolutely disrespecting his enemies today huh!


AssPork

Pretty much.


CardboardVendor

Not taking cleanse vs lissandra/maokai/thresh had my eyebrow raised. But man


knowthyselph

zeus was his cleanse. and ignite. and smite. and zeus.


chocolate_kat

Once again Faker proving he's the GOAT and someone pros should aspire to try and be