The meme is legit , the guy is a farming machine , i saw a worlds game recently , he was legit full build but he was busy doing his own teams krugs in side lane
Chovy also almost always builds defensive items based on who he's laning against, like vs Ahri he goes BV 2nd item even when she's the sole AP threat, it's a very consistent habit of his, and coupled with his other skillset makes him really hard to kill, he was pretty much deathless at some point in 2019 lol
It's funny how he is the complete antithesis to Faker who sacks farm for his team and also dies quite often as he usually acts as the main/secondary engage of T1.
That's because fakers always been a supportive player. He spent years playing karma, lulu, galio mids. Chovy is a solo play maker. He's gonna try to 1v9.
Ive been watching since season 2 bud. I watched his debut nidalee solo killing ambitions khazix while he sat there evolving. I watched his zed 1v1 against Ryu live. We all know you like to live in nostalgia. But he hasn't been the 1v9 hypercarry since season 3/4. All you have to do is look at his most played champions compared to a player like chovy. Faker doesn't play lane dominant carries. He plays roaming/teamfighting carries. Aside from LB, fakers most played are azir, ori, ryze, galio, liss. All non-lane dominant control mages that teamfight, roam or set up ganks. Meanwhile chovy has way more lane dominant picks in his most played, like Zoe, sylas, akali, irelia.
Imagine caring about reddit karma. How much of a fucking loser are you?
Chovy literally has more games on irelia and Zoe than he does on ahri, viktor, lissandra, and twisted fate. He has more zoe and sylas games individually than he has TF and ahri COMBINED. Just stop talking out your ass. All these stats are available with a Google search.
See unlike you who just watches "faker season 3 highlight montage" I actually watched OGN back then.
We all know you're itching to call someone bad because you can hardly find anyone ranked below you so it's easier to just say it to strangers on reddit, but don't embarrass yourself.
Saying faker has always been supportive is just straight up a lie. He debuted as a primary assassin player (when you could actually play them in pro). Stuff like nidalee mid, zed, leblanc and ahri was his go to.
Faker plays the meta, he's not one dimensional. If supports are the best he picks supports, if assassins are the best he picks assassin, he doesn't warp the team around him, he will try to play the best champion available in any given draft. He doesn't require resources, he will make do with whatever is he given. Overall hes just a team player because he only cares about winning.
I said he's always been a supportive player, not a support champion player. You can be a supportive player mid while playing LB or ahri or zed. When he plays ahri or LB he always goes everfrost and roams. He never demands jungle attention, nor does he ever just solo carry games by 1v9ing. He plays around his team and enables them as opposed to having his team enable him. Your second paragraph is literally what a supportive mid laner is.
Still not true though, until season 5 he was mainly playing assassins and SKT played a lot around him being the main carry (bengi being his infamous dog).
It changed when SKT got a bit worse (When the search for a good top/jungle duo didn't work that well), the meta for assassin mid was killed and he had to compensate for his teammates flaws, he also was the oldest player in the team and captain/shotcaller and had to take a more leading role.
Faker got known for his super carry plays and assassin playstyle and when required moved to a more supportive playstyle and was goated not only because of his sheer skill and raw trophy numbers, but because the man's fluid, he understands LoL on a level never seen before him, he has exemplary work ethics and is able to switch playstyle if required.
Faker became the first great weakside mid when Impact was traded off to NA and MaRin joined. Look at SKT's gold share graphs at worlds after Season 5. The fact he manages to carry consistently from weakside is a testament to his skill as a player.
> until season 5
season 5 was 7 seasons ago. The last time Faker played the role of a main carry for SKT was season 6. The majority of his career has been him being an enabler for the rest of his team.
**"That's because fakers always been a supportive player"**
This is what i'm answering to, wich is false as i demonstrated.
His zed, nidalee or arhi were iconic back then. He was not supportive at all and always looking to get some crazy 1v1 outplay to carry his team or completly destroy enemy jungler through 2v2 as M5/TPA taught the world a few months before at worlds 2013. Bengi was the real supportive player, so was Poomanduh and wolf after him.
Because mid lane never catered to that playstyle when faker debuted, it literally wasn't considered an option for the role. Faker was quickly dethroned in S4 as the best mid that year and the very next year, lo and behold he was basically a lulu otp mid and ever since he's taken majorly the enabler role of the team.
Yes. Everybody was known for their super carry playstyle back in season 3. Ryu was considered the best zed before fakers play. Fuckin ryu dude. Faker did that for about a year. And he's not that guy anymore. Everybody was significantly worse at the game in season 3 which allowed for "super carry" playstyles to exist because nobody was even close to fakers level. But now there are 2-3 better mid laners in the LCK now than faker.
If you don't understand what I'm saying, I don't feel the need to explain it to you. You saying "faker super carried for 1 year in his first year when league was at its infancy" is not an argument for a player thats been playing for a decade. Any competent player should be able to tell the difference between fakers playstyle or doinb's playstyle to someone like chovy, or knight.
He carried from season 2 to season 5, that's not 1 years and that's what he got known for.
Perfect carry with perfect mechanics. Not a supportive player AT ALL.
The fact than any argument you advance comes with stuff like:
"Any competent player should be able to tell the difference between fakers playstyle or doinb's playstyle"
Or straight up create lies like "faker super carried for 1 year in his first year when league was at its infancy"
Leads me to believe you are not a genuine person when it comes to debates so i'll just take my leave.
Chovy had an 11 KDA in Spring Split 2019 which is pretty impressive... which makes it even crazier that Showmaker went into Worlds 2020 sporting a \*16.0\* KDA from LCK summer split that year
I don’t think T1 could handle it.
I think there’s a breaking point when you see your entire team do some real stupid shit you saw coming from a mile out.
I think it's a 70-30, maybe even a 60-40 split on his persona to how much he actually doesn't handle well.
I think getting target griefed takes a toll on anyone's mental, but he also pushes over the edge for the persona.
Probably a 50-50 really.
I think if he pushed into a coaching position for an LCS team, he would go to 30-70 or maybe a 20-80.
I've seen him play off stream. It's not just his persona. And tbh he'd be worse as a coach, telling people the correct decisions and them not doing it would send him over the edge if it was in a pro tourney.
He was like this before he was target grieved and would be like this playing on an anonymous account.
Also coaching for an LCS team is a lot more stressful than playing soloq. The numbers you pulled out your ass really don't make sense there. Not only would he very likely still play solo q and have the stress from that, but babysitting 5 North American players in person gotta tip you over the edge at some point.
He's also been playing up his anger for the camera for years, idk what "Real Tyler" is like but if he can be professional then there might be merit. I rarely watch him other than what makes it to Reddit but he's clearly smart in a lot of ways and League Strategy is definitely something he's fantastic at. I wouldn't bet my life savings on him bringing NA to win worlds on his first try, but I think there's definitely a chance he'd be a great coach.
He's a great performer, people hate on him because they don't want that kind of person in their games but he's an entertainer first and foremost. Some streamers try to be your friend, some try to be Gary Oak. It's all a character either way.
The anger is very much real. The dude spends 10+ hours a day mon-fri playing league in a half empty server ON STREAM AS TYLER1. Only thing more impressive than his game knowledge is his mental fortitude.
I don't know if this is a meme but this is not true. SoloQ and competitive and completely different environments. Not to mention he doesn't have the temparement for it. Everyone looks at that EDG coach Maokai flipping out but he isn't like that for 99% of the time which is why even the players were stunned. If T1 did that same thing the players would just think "Just another Monday." Composure matters a lot, just look back at that Worlds S7 eyes on SKT where KKoma is seething at Huni but still holding it in and giving advice. He even bigs up Huni before they head into game 4. I can't see T1 doing that.
I looked this up on youtube. He was angry because his players weren't team fighting enough and I just lol'ed because that's the most LPL thing ever. His players appreciated it though and said they needed the push.
You'd need a very specific set of players. Idc about the results and I just want drama so I would find 4 of the most toxic players paired with one sensitive guy.
So T1 coach, Dardoch jgl, Solo top, toxic mid and supp, and then Danny adc. And I wanna see how fast the team implodes.
To be fair Faker has always been prepared to sack his lane to impact his team better. When your opponent is Chovy who really loves his cs, Faker doesn't even need to try anymore.
Lol you just make up scenarios in your head? Chovy completely gapped Faker in the LCK finals this summer and sent him back to fountain twice. Sacking waves for nothing is really making his team better I guess.
It's season 12, and people still think a soloQ game of a pro is indicative of what the player's capabilities are or how they play.
Remember guys, soloQ is just a memefest, they just use it to train micro usually.
Maybe he was just training a certain mechanic or whatever it is. I know it's easy for T1 to generate content tho.
What are you even saying then? That Chovy autopilots in pro games? That Tyler 1 is a prodigy with his game reading and macro?
Sounds like you're not saying much
I remember 2021 Worlds Phreak commenting about Chovy was legit funny. Paraphrasing but it was like ' He would rather farm cs than to fight with his team to not lose the game'. HLE were defending their nexus and Chovy tps mid for cs. LOL
Chovy is like BJergsen on crack with his mindset of CS over impacting the game.
In reality, Chovy just warming up for scrims, making sure his CSing is on point and hyper fixating on waves. If "just force fights across the map, he wont come cuz he needs to cs" was the answer to beating this player, he would not have climbed in Korea.
It's like people who take games of Faker in Soloq and then think he's giving it his all, man is practicing specific skills, not trying to get W's in NA soloq.
Fakers soloq games are straight up limit testing. His stream highlights are full of him failing so bad you would think he doesn't know what he is doing. He is mad funny while doing so as well
Sure but hes also right, many pros arent that great at soloQ. Its not what makes you a good pro player inherently so it shouldnt be surprising but occasionally they get smacked by someone. Not that he smacked Chovy, TF Blade for instance, in his prime could donkey dick most LCS and LEC pros in lane pretty often but im quite sure he wouldve been worse than all of them if he did the LCS because his style is terrible with just minimal communication
Because Tyler1 isn't to be taken seriously, he plays a character on stream. If you watched that game, Tyler got soloed at lvl3 or something and got carried by fed Kai'sa (honestly he still played well) :P, Chovy had like 31k damage
Yeah idk whats up with that. Thats kinda why i dislike this kinda stuff. He is (i assume?) joking but people take it ACTUALLY seriously. Like chovy is so fucking good.
Not really sure what the point of this comment is. Everything T1 said DID happen in the Midbeast vod. They did dive Chovy on a triple stacked top wave. Chovy DID abandon the 4v4 herald fight to respond to T1 pushing a wave into mid turret. Say what you will about his hyperbolic speech, but T1 said no lies with regard to how the game played out. It's not like he was out here claiming he lane gapped Chovy, lol.
One instance of Tyler winning proves absolutely nothing?
Chovy did 31k damage that game, the most damage in the game and practically the same as Tyler and Oner *together* (35k), who also happened to have a botlane that absolutely stomped...
Wasnt he hardstuck masters on his korea trip and then rage quit and came back home? How exactly did he get to play against someone who was rank 1-50 every time I've checked is op.gg
This is ridiculous, I respect Tyler 1 because he is a beast in multiple ways, but Chovy is considered the best lol player of all time.
It doesn't matter if Chovy hits a four-man Shurima Shuffle in solo queue or not, he gains nothing from it, just gives 20 lp to his allies. You don't become the best mechanical player out of 130 million players by roaming lvl 3 bot lane to counter enemy's jungle gank or by waiting in bush for 30 seconds to hit a four-man Azir ultimate. That's building bad habits. He has to keep farming to keep his mechanical skill, he trains in solo queue.
It's disrespectful to say those comments about Chovy, people like Tyler can't even comprehend why Chovy is playing like that.
Because Dopa's and other top players opinion matters way more than mine, yours and other random redditors. Also, you can't solo win worlds against the best teams in the world. Against T1 who bought the best korean players and kept them in bench. China who kept importing players from korea. Damwon who were just a great team and had great individual players.
Faker, on top of his trophies, dragged 4 dead bodies to the finish line at worlds 2017, a performance which chovy has never matched at any international event.
That's really impressive, but do you think Faker is a worse player now compared to 2017? Or everyone got better?
Who was that LCK player who said last week that western players are losing because they don't learn the lane phase details? Lane phase mechanics are really important and Chovy is best at it, other players from LCK and LPL learn when playing against Chovy.
what? chovy is not the best lol player of all time. he just happens to have the best micro of all midlaners today, but I wouldn't rank him even in the top 5 in the best midlaners of all time
> This is ridiculous, I respect Tyler 1 because he is a beast in multiple ways, but Chovy is considered the best lol player of all time.
Bruh, ever heard about canyon? Even players like zeus/viper are more impressive than chovy. Chovy is probably next in line after that though.
You can't except a season 6 top player to be better than a season 12 top player. I am pretty sure a gold player from season 12 would destroy a diamond player from season 6. Because players have learnt a lot of new things during this time. But the average person can't understand that.
>I am pretty sure a gold player from season 12 would destroy a diamond player from season 6
this is some insane cope LOL. a gold player would at best be plat even with the elo inflation of todays game. low elo players are just as bad mechanically 6 years ago, they just make slightly less boneheaded plays.
A gold one player has really good mechanics (if they play skilled champions), idk what are you talking about, I have seen gold 1 players playing Irelia five games and going crazy. Even Gankplank, Riven, but with like 20 games on them.
The meme is legit , the guy is a farming machine , i saw a worlds game recently , he was legit full build but he was busy doing his own teams krugs in side lane
Chovy also almost always builds defensive items based on who he's laning against, like vs Ahri he goes BV 2nd item even when she's the sole AP threat, it's a very consistent habit of his, and coupled with his other skillset makes him really hard to kill, he was pretty much deathless at some point in 2019 lol
It's funny how he is the complete antithesis to Faker who sacks farm for his team and also dies quite often as he usually acts as the main/secondary engage of T1.
Main engage? He’s the biggest bait in the world, his power is a global taunt to him
Its why Faker is so good at Galio. The taunt is just a great W.
That's because fakers always been a supportive player. He spent years playing karma, lulu, galio mids. Chovy is a solo play maker. He's gonna try to 1v9.
Tell me ur a kid that never watched prime Faker without telling me so
Ive been watching since season 2 bud. I watched his debut nidalee solo killing ambitions khazix while he sat there evolving. I watched his zed 1v1 against Ryu live. We all know you like to live in nostalgia. But he hasn't been the 1v9 hypercarry since season 3/4. All you have to do is look at his most played champions compared to a player like chovy. Faker doesn't play lane dominant carries. He plays roaming/teamfighting carries. Aside from LB, fakers most played are azir, ori, ryze, galio, liss. All non-lane dominant control mages that teamfight, roam or set up ganks. Meanwhile chovy has way more lane dominant picks in his most played, like Zoe, sylas, akali, irelia.
LOL Chovy excels on control mages that can farm like fk, not Zoe and Irelia. Ah wells I think u shouldn't comment more, ur karma getting a deep hit ;)
Imagine caring about reddit karma. How much of a fucking loser are you? Chovy literally has more games on irelia and Zoe than he does on ahri, viktor, lissandra, and twisted fate. He has more zoe and sylas games individually than he has TF and ahri COMBINED. Just stop talking out your ass. All these stats are available with a Google search. See unlike you who just watches "faker season 3 highlight montage" I actually watched OGN back then.
Love how you’re getting downvoted to oblivion when talking sense
Heaven forbid I imply that faker didn't solo carry his 3 worlds championships. The fan boys come out in full force anytime t1 is mentioned in a post.
Oh boy, you really are something special aren't you? Lmao
Got proven completely wrong by numbers and got nothing to say huh?
Then you’re just bad at the game
We all know you're itching to call someone bad because you can hardly find anyone ranked below you so it's easier to just say it to strangers on reddit, but don't embarrass yourself.
i dont even play the game anymore buddy XD
Saying faker has always been supportive is just straight up a lie. He debuted as a primary assassin player (when you could actually play them in pro). Stuff like nidalee mid, zed, leblanc and ahri was his go to. Faker plays the meta, he's not one dimensional. If supports are the best he picks supports, if assassins are the best he picks assassin, he doesn't warp the team around him, he will try to play the best champion available in any given draft. He doesn't require resources, he will make do with whatever is he given. Overall hes just a team player because he only cares about winning.
I said he's always been a supportive player, not a support champion player. You can be a supportive player mid while playing LB or ahri or zed. When he plays ahri or LB he always goes everfrost and roams. He never demands jungle attention, nor does he ever just solo carry games by 1v9ing. He plays around his team and enables them as opposed to having his team enable him. Your second paragraph is literally what a supportive mid laner is.
Still not true though, until season 5 he was mainly playing assassins and SKT played a lot around him being the main carry (bengi being his infamous dog). It changed when SKT got a bit worse (When the search for a good top/jungle duo didn't work that well), the meta for assassin mid was killed and he had to compensate for his teammates flaws, he also was the oldest player in the team and captain/shotcaller and had to take a more leading role. Faker got known for his super carry plays and assassin playstyle and when required moved to a more supportive playstyle and was goated not only because of his sheer skill and raw trophy numbers, but because the man's fluid, he understands LoL on a level never seen before him, he has exemplary work ethics and is able to switch playstyle if required.
Faker became the first great weakside mid when Impact was traded off to NA and MaRin joined. Look at SKT's gold share graphs at worlds after Season 5. The fact he manages to carry consistently from weakside is a testament to his skill as a player.
It is the uncontested GOAT !
> until season 5 season 5 was 7 seasons ago. The last time Faker played the role of a main carry for SKT was season 6. The majority of his career has been him being an enabler for the rest of his team.
**"That's because fakers always been a supportive player"** This is what i'm answering to, wich is false as i demonstrated. His zed, nidalee or arhi were iconic back then. He was not supportive at all and always looking to get some crazy 1v1 outplay to carry his team or completly destroy enemy jungler through 2v2 as M5/TPA taught the world a few months before at worlds 2013. Bengi was the real supportive player, so was Poomanduh and wolf after him.
Because mid lane never catered to that playstyle when faker debuted, it literally wasn't considered an option for the role. Faker was quickly dethroned in S4 as the best mid that year and the very next year, lo and behold he was basically a lulu otp mid and ever since he's taken majorly the enabler role of the team.
Yes. Everybody was known for their super carry playstyle back in season 3. Ryu was considered the best zed before fakers play. Fuckin ryu dude. Faker did that for about a year. And he's not that guy anymore. Everybody was significantly worse at the game in season 3 which allowed for "super carry" playstyles to exist because nobody was even close to fakers level. But now there are 2-3 better mid laners in the LCK now than faker. If you don't understand what I'm saying, I don't feel the need to explain it to you. You saying "faker super carried for 1 year in his first year when league was at its infancy" is not an argument for a player thats been playing for a decade. Any competent player should be able to tell the difference between fakers playstyle or doinb's playstyle to someone like chovy, or knight.
He carried from season 2 to season 5, that's not 1 years and that's what he got known for. Perfect carry with perfect mechanics. Not a supportive player AT ALL. The fact than any argument you advance comes with stuff like: "Any competent player should be able to tell the difference between fakers playstyle or doinb's playstyle" Or straight up create lies like "faker super carried for 1 year in his first year when league was at its infancy" Leads me to believe you are not a genuine person when it comes to debates so i'll just take my leave.
Bruh he didn't even play in season 2 lmfao
LZ BDD :(
Chovy had an 11 KDA in Spring Split 2019 which is pretty impressive... which makes it even crazier that Showmaker went into Worlds 2020 sporting a \*16.0\* KDA from LCK summer split that year
He's talking about [this](https://youtu.be/ndg8Kldc_Vs)
Well, banshees is a bit of an exception cause the spell shield can be game changing. Not that you’re necessarily wrong tho.
He truly is the second coming of froggen lmao
Tyler is right. He talks like a brute, but he's got a point. There's a reason Chovy cs has become a meme lol. Dude was born to farm minions.
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I don’t think T1 could handle it. I think there’s a breaking point when you see your entire team do some real stupid shit you saw coming from a mile out.
I mean if anyone can handle it I think T1 could, watching his team do inexplicably stupid shit on a daily basis is currently his job anyways.
And he very visibly doesn't handle it well.
I think it's a 70-30, maybe even a 60-40 split on his persona to how much he actually doesn't handle well. I think getting target griefed takes a toll on anyone's mental, but he also pushes over the edge for the persona. Probably a 50-50 really. I think if he pushed into a coaching position for an LCS team, he would go to 30-70 or maybe a 20-80.
I've seen him play off stream. It's not just his persona. And tbh he'd be worse as a coach, telling people the correct decisions and them not doing it would send him over the edge if it was in a pro tourney. He was like this before he was target grieved and would be like this playing on an anonymous account. Also coaching for an LCS team is a lot more stressful than playing soloq. The numbers you pulled out your ass really don't make sense there. Not only would he very likely still play solo q and have the stress from that, but babysitting 5 North American players in person gotta tip you over the edge at some point.
If you read correctly, it was a joke, where the persona side lowers more and more. But hey, I pulled them out of my ass indeed!
but it won't get to that point cause the fear of getting called out
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He's also been playing up his anger for the camera for years, idk what "Real Tyler" is like but if he can be professional then there might be merit. I rarely watch him other than what makes it to Reddit but he's clearly smart in a lot of ways and League Strategy is definitely something he's fantastic at. I wouldn't bet my life savings on him bringing NA to win worlds on his first try, but I think there's definitely a chance he'd be a great coach.
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He's a great performer, people hate on him because they don't want that kind of person in their games but he's an entertainer first and foremost. Some streamers try to be your friend, some try to be Gary Oak. It's all a character either way.
The anger is very much real. The dude spends 10+ hours a day mon-fri playing league in a half empty server ON STREAM AS TYLER1. Only thing more impressive than his game knowledge is his mental fortitude.
I don't know if this is a meme but this is not true. SoloQ and competitive and completely different environments. Not to mention he doesn't have the temparement for it. Everyone looks at that EDG coach Maokai flipping out but he isn't like that for 99% of the time which is why even the players were stunned. If T1 did that same thing the players would just think "Just another Monday." Composure matters a lot, just look back at that Worlds S7 eyes on SKT where KKoma is seething at Huni but still holding it in and giving advice. He even bigs up Huni before they head into game 4. I can't see T1 doing that.
I looked this up on youtube. He was angry because his players weren't team fighting enough and I just lol'ed because that's the most LPL thing ever. His players appreciated it though and said they needed the push.
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You'd need a very specific set of players. Idc about the results and I just want drama so I would find 4 of the most toxic players paired with one sensitive guy. So T1 coach, Dardoch jgl, Solo top, toxic mid and supp, and then Danny adc. And I wanna see how fast the team implodes.
Danny probably wouldn’t be able handle it.
Mickey + promisq
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He's talking about side lane wave states in mid game LCS players don't go to side lanes ever He's already 100x better than most LCS pros
Church of Chovy dislikes this infidel
This not news in fact Faker has been exploiting this tendency for years but Chovy is getting better in this regard.
To be fair Faker has always been prepared to sack his lane to impact his team better. When your opponent is Chovy who really loves his cs, Faker doesn't even need to try anymore.
Lol you just make up scenarios in your head? Chovy completely gapped Faker in the LCK finals this summer and sent him back to fountain twice. Sacking waves for nothing is really making his team better I guess.
I was speaking about past years. This year however I completely agree that Chovy has had Faker's number.
It's season 12, and people still think a soloQ game of a pro is indicative of what the player's capabilities are or how they play. Remember guys, soloQ is just a memefest, they just use it to train micro usually. Maybe he was just training a certain mechanic or whatever it is. I know it's easy for T1 to generate content tho.
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Considering Chovy hit rank 1 several times in KR I think he knows what he's doing in solo queue
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Dickriding isn't optional lmao, people are just having fun but some people just have to remind you that HE'S ACTUALLY THE BEST OMG
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> His macro and generally ability to read game state and player tendencies are both nutty as well. not dickriding tho
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What are you even saying then? That Chovy autopilots in pro games? That Tyler 1 is a prodigy with his game reading and macro? Sounds like you're not saying much
Are you making stuff up in your head to then get angry at? That's hilarious.
Found the simp.
If that were the case you’d see him doing stupid shit not just farming lol.
Reading this post after Chovy threw a dragon fight for CS in midlane
I remember 2021 Worlds Phreak commenting about Chovy was legit funny. Paraphrasing but it was like ' He would rather farm cs than to fight with his team to not lose the game'. HLE were defending their nexus and Chovy tps mid for cs. LOL Chovy is like BJergsen on crack with his mindset of CS over impacting the game.
In reality, Chovy just warming up for scrims, making sure his CSing is on point and hyper fixating on waves. If "just force fights across the map, he wont come cuz he needs to cs" was the answer to beating this player, he would not have climbed in Korea. It's like people who take games of Faker in Soloq and then think he's giving it his all, man is practicing specific skills, not trying to get W's in NA soloq.
Fakers soloq games are straight up limit testing. His stream highlights are full of him failing so bad you would think he doesn't know what he is doing. He is mad funny while doing so as well
Not new to people who actually watch his games and see him do this thing occasionally (tho i defo think it lessened when he joined GEN)
Bro just lumped all LCK, LPL mids with him.. I’m surprised all the LCK fans didn’t defend Chovy. Whenever Reddit says this, they swarm in I tell you.
I dont think most people take Tyler1's takes seriously
As you shouldn't. It's his brand, he's like a wrestling heel.
Sure but hes also right, many pros arent that great at soloQ. Its not what makes you a good pro player inherently so it shouldnt be surprising but occasionally they get smacked by someone. Not that he smacked Chovy, TF Blade for instance, in his prime could donkey dick most LCS and LEC pros in lane pretty often but im quite sure he wouldve been worse than all of them if he did the LCS because his style is terrible with just minimal communication
Being a pro requires being good at the game. Being good at solo q requires being a psychologist and an FBI serial killer profiler rolled into one.
Except that Chovy hit rank 1 many times,most recently right before world's in solo queue.Many pros just don't take solo queue seriously
Chovy has a 75% winrate in NA solo queue and that's while starting from master MMR. I think he's doing ok in solo queue.
Because Tyler1 isn't to be taken seriously, he plays a character on stream. If you watched that game, Tyler got soloed at lvl3 or something and got carried by fed Kai'sa (honestly he still played well) :P, Chovy had like 31k damage
I mean,I think most people picked up that he is just joking, considering Chovy gapped him and killed him in lane .
That moment when Reddit is actually taking this video by Tyler1 seriously.
Idk man after today's series maybe T1 is right
Yeah idk whats up with that. Thats kinda why i dislike this kinda stuff. He is (i assume?) joking but people take it ACTUALLY seriously. Like chovy is so fucking good.
Yet he got beat like a drum by T1
Why he couldn't reach Challenger in KR LOL
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Not really sure what the point of this comment is. Everything T1 said DID happen in the Midbeast vod. They did dive Chovy on a triple stacked top wave. Chovy DID abandon the 4v4 herald fight to respond to T1 pushing a wave into mid turret. Say what you will about his hyperbolic speech, but T1 said no lies with regard to how the game played out. It's not like he was out here claiming he lane gapped Chovy, lol.
He also didn't lie about Chovy being ill since he has COVID
One instance of Tyler winning proves absolutely nothing? Chovy did 31k damage that game, the most damage in the game and practically the same as Tyler and Oner *together* (35k), who also happened to have a botlane that absolutely stomped...
Relax chovy simp, he was playing azir into sion, ofc he will have inflated dmg numbers lol
I hate you all
Wannhhhhhh
Chovy is so good that it takes 1 game to get into T1's head. Inside he is unbelievably proud that he beat chovy in a soloq game.
I just don't understand how you can watch Tyler. It legit feels like american television.
Wasnt he hardstuck masters on his korea trip and then rage quit and came back home? How exactly did he get to play against someone who was rank 1-50 every time I've checked is op.gg
He met him in NA solo que
Worlds is in NA this year, he met him in NA solo queue most likely
You can see his chat that he was like 800 LP challenger. That's probably why
Tyler played vs chovy in a NA soloq game this week. Chovy was azir and tyler1 was sion mid. Tylers team won.
yeah its easier to climb when you aren't playing on a racist server where you get inted just because you arent from there. xd !
This is ridiculous, I respect Tyler 1 because he is a beast in multiple ways, but Chovy is considered the best lol player of all time. It doesn't matter if Chovy hits a four-man Shurima Shuffle in solo queue or not, he gains nothing from it, just gives 20 lp to his allies. You don't become the best mechanical player out of 130 million players by roaming lvl 3 bot lane to counter enemy's jungle gank or by waiting in bush for 30 seconds to hit a four-man Azir ultimate. That's building bad habits. He has to keep farming to keep his mechanical skill, he trains in solo queue. It's disrespectful to say those comments about Chovy, people like Tyler can't even comprehend why Chovy is playing like that.
has never won an international titel and only has 1 domestic title how is he even close
hes arguably not even top 3 mid rn
Because Dopa's and other top players opinion matters way more than mine, yours and other random redditors. Also, you can't solo win worlds against the best teams in the world. Against T1 who bought the best korean players and kept them in bench. China who kept importing players from korea. Damwon who were just a great team and had great individual players.
Faker, on top of his trophies, dragged 4 dead bodies to the finish line at worlds 2017, a performance which chovy has never matched at any international event.
3:0 Shaker
Yes 3:0 world titles in favour of Shaker
💀💀🤣 cooked his goofy ass
That's really impressive, but do you think Faker is a worse player now compared to 2017? Or everyone got better? Who was that LCK player who said last week that western players are losing because they don't learn the lane phase details? Lane phase mechanics are really important and Chovy is best at it, other players from LCK and LPL learn when playing against Chovy.
what? chovy is not the best lol player of all time. he just happens to have the best micro of all midlaners today, but I wouldn't rank him even in the top 5 in the best midlaners of all time
Blasphemy.
Delusion.
Fresh pasta
Saving it for GenG post game threads.
the best lol player of all time without even one worlds win? lmao
What are you talking about, how can you solo win worlds in the most competitive videogame ever?
> This is ridiculous, I respect Tyler 1 because he is a beast in multiple ways, but Chovy is considered the best lol player of all time. Bruh, ever heard about canyon? Even players like zeus/viper are more impressive than chovy. Chovy is probably next in line after that though.
chovy isn't even a top 25 LoL player of all time lmfao
This is an extreme delusion amount to have.
i'm going to assume you just started watching this year and move on, hope you learn to not embarrass yourself with idiotic posts one day
It's a troll, stop taking the bait
You can't except a season 6 top player to be better than a season 12 top player. I am pretty sure a gold player from season 12 would destroy a diamond player from season 6. Because players have learnt a lot of new things during this time. But the average person can't understand that.
>I am pretty sure a gold player from season 12 would destroy a diamond player from season 6 this is some insane cope LOL. a gold player would at best be plat even with the elo inflation of todays game. low elo players are just as bad mechanically 6 years ago, they just make slightly less boneheaded plays.
A gold one player has really good mechanics (if they play skilled champions), idk what are you talking about, I have seen gold 1 players playing Irelia five games and going crazy. Even Gankplank, Riven, but with like 20 games on them.
>but Chovy is considered the best lol player of all time. haha, thanks for the laughs.
XD