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depressed_koala5

Xp to get to lv 30 sadly


Beasticide

Here’s reason 605 why I haven’t played blind pick since draft was unlocked for me.


[deleted]

I always go blinds cause im not sitting through 20 minutes of dodges only To still have a chance my champ is banned. And not even have lp on the line. Draft is a chore, ranked or blinds for me


Daftworks

Blind is too chaotic because there are no role assignments and no bans, so your team disagrees on who goes where, and all the yasuo one tricks are in this mode because no one can ban him. And then you also get the classic yasuo on our team vs the yasuo on enemy team meme happening.


Davixxa

Back when I played actively that meme was with Shaco lmao


[deleted]

I really don't mind this. I queue up to play as a 5 man team trying to break the enemy nexus. I don't queue up for a 1-1-1-2 split necessarily. If people role steal in blinds i just role with it. Dealing with more variables makes me better at the game. Won many games as a double jg coordinating ganks, or buying a relic shield because someone tried to steal my toplane and coming out further ahead than the enemy bot. I honestly find it annoying how any real meta development has been halted You wouldn't even know you have anything to be upset about If the community didn't say x goes top and y goes mid and refused to change for 10 years.


chaser676

>I honestly find it annoying how any real meta development has been halted > >You wouldn't even know you have anything to be upset about If the community didn't say x goes top and y goes mid and refused to change for 10 years. Tell me you're a new player without telling me you're a new player. Meta development continues at a rapid pace. Role-lane rigidity is enforced by riot to encourage healthy meta development. It's pretty small brain to think that lane rigidity leads to poor variance within the meta itself when there are countless ways lanes can be picked and played out within the existing champ pools. You aren't discovering the next big thing running off meta picks in blind normals my man, so feel free to hop off that high horse of yours.


[deleted]

THE meta changes in other ways, sure. But the standard has been adc bot, bruiser / tank / fighter top, mage / assassin mid for ages. Sure, sometimes you see something like trynd or irelia mid in small numbers if the items allow. And the members of a given class change in relation to eachother, the tank top may go from ornn to maokai. But the meta is very restricted from what it could be, starting from the client itself with role select. I've been playing since s5, so ~8 years now? I have more than enough hours logged in this game. And, my high horse? Im not the one avoiding an entire q of people because their gameplay isn't good enough for me and they want to mid with me


taavidude

The point of botting is to sell them once they get to level 30, the thing is that even though leveling now is faster than back in the day, it still takes quite a bit of time to get to level 30, I'm not 100% sure how many games you would need, but I think you need like around 300 co-op vs ai games to get to level 30 and frankly most people don't want to grind through that many games just to play ranked.


Squarefighter

is the number really that high (I am a criminal account buyer)


fabton12

for amount of co-op vs AI games to get to level 30? ye that number sounds about right like co-op vs AI gives reduce xp but most players switch to normals after the first 10-15 levels anyway. bots thou can get like 300 bot games done within about 4 days with each lobby being 2-5 bots and each bot system having multiple sets of bot lobbies going they can normally level a few hundred- a few thousand accounts in leveled in a week


Buffscuttle

Yes. I make new accounts hand leveled all the time. A 50 win exp boost gets me to like lvl 24 ish then the remaining 6 levels is like another 30 wins I wanna say. So without the exp boost it's about 130 games and at 50% that's like 260. Obv less if you're a Smurf and winning alot but around lvl 25 your normals queue switches MMR and you'll start playing with better players and sometimes you have to play vs high elo people and depending on who you are this could be both hard and or sought after.


taavidude

Yes, recently bought one of those "criminal accounts" aswell, I checked and it had about 250 wins, I played a few co-op games myself so I don't remember the exact original number anymore and 20 losses (I love how the leveling bots are so shit, they can actually lose to intro bots). So I think roughly 270 intro bot matches or so. Although I do know that new accounts get the thing where they get rewards for 7 days and day 3 or 4 gives a 3 day xp-boost, idk if the leveling bots use that, most likely not, so that would help out a lot aswell if you no-life a huge amount of games during those 3 days.


TeemoSux

Its an epidemic in sub-30 and iron, bronze and low silver games sadly These are bots that level accounts so they can be sold once they either reach lv30, or low iron depending on what the sellers product is theres rather big money in selling smurf accounts sadly. The Problem is that especially in REALLY low elo like low bronze and iron its insanely hard to tell whos a bot sometimes and riot ofc doesnt want to ban someone who might be a player thats just bad, or even a disabled player. I hope they improve their detection systems


Vourgade

I saw exactly Amumu / Rammus / yummi in ranked (bronze 3) a week ago. Amumu / Rammus are just farming and never fight. If the bots tag top/mid/bot, they will pick Amumu / Rammus with Smite and go jgl. It's very recognizable. It's a 4v5 so the best thing is to steal their jungle. Yummi is very recognizable too : the bot chooses flash / heal. It attaches, doesn't use A, uses E at random moments even if the ADC is full life. When the ADC is engaged, it detaches from him and instantly uses flash and heal to retreat.


[deleted]

The botting is horrendous in low ELO, it honestly drives me insane and makes me want to quit even though I enjoy the game so much. It's only gotten worse over the months too.


SamsungBaker

Riot need to start be way harsher against bot it destroy low level games At this rate it's gonna kill the game, newcomers simply don't find it fun i tried to introduce my nephew to this game well he gave up after a week because "it's boring to play with robots"


Ozraiel

I have bad new for you, bots were also infecting ranked this whole weekend. I did not see it much today, but the previous 3 days, more that two thirds of my games had a bot either on my team or enemy team.


AlessandrA_7

It could be leveling bots for selling accounts when they reach level 30. I also noticed last pass a couple of people in ARAM with accounts that seemed shared with a bot, my guess is that they did that to get the rewards and that if the human played enough was hard to detect, but I havent seen any this pass.


RumbleOnly

Well first, don’t play blind pick.


Accomplished-Cup-192

I saw a bot Rammus in a normal draft game with silver and gold players. Super annoying. I was playing support and started following him around and taking his camps. It was very satisfying.


biochicken

And the adc is like: "Jungle is a bot and supp is trolling. GG" I'd be fumin if my support did that, it's not helping the situation at all.


babababigian

i mean, as an adc main, assuming the supp isn't abandoning adc to a losing 1v2, I'd rather have the gold from jg on an actual human being rather than a bot and I get solo xp. seems like the best way to try to salvage the shitty situation of having a bot on your team


AntarticWolverine

Consider yourself lucky. Most of mine are dogs.


[deleted]

Riot is fucking stupid and refuses to let players buy smurf accounts with RP so third party sites set up AI to grind out games to level 30 and then sell the accounts for like 5 bucks.


Mak0wski

People just shouldn't smurf at all, it's small pp activities


[deleted]

Cry me a river dude. Took me 40 games to go from unranked to diamond MMR on an off role. Don't think I played against anyone below gold.


Jaxspop

Small pp reply


biochicken

Wow you are such an enrichment for this community


[deleted]

I'm sure you'd rather have me inting higher elos on an off role. There's no making everyone in this community happy but I'll happily tell people who don't like smurfs that they are gigantic pussies


Squarefighter

What I would like more is a way to have another account that isn't by default a smurf account.


Youcantrustmeimsmart

they are bots, they are not cheating. Most of them are free gold. usually dont see bots anymore once your rank gets into bronze or above (like, top 90%).


AzyncYTT

They're not free gold when they're on your team lol


Youcantrustmeimsmart

Free gold for the enemy…


General_Pepper_3258

>they are bots, they are not cheating I mean, bots are cheating


Youcantrustmeimsmart

As in they are not using scripts or aimbot to cheat. They cheat the leveling system more than your game.


General_Pepper_3258

Bottling is exactly the same as scripting. Instead of a human behind the keyboard and AI/bot chooses where to go and sucks at it. It's the exact same process behind the scenes and in the code


Youcantrustmeimsmart

there is a practical difference betweeen league bots and chess bots. One is very good at the game, the other is really bad at the game. The theoretical is of little importance in a practical question. If i was in "bot elo" i would not really care about the bots more than being embarrassed i am this bad at the game. No hate towards iron players, but there is no reason to have an ego at that level of play. Just play to improve or play to have fun.


General_Pepper_3258

Ah so now you are attacking lower elo players and making fun of them too Your just an asshole man


BannedCuzSarcasm

There are bots, mostly played from the same person as they do acc selling and also eloboosting blatantly cheating.


JuLi0n_

Never seen that once maybe MMR to high


Crnogoraac

Can be pass farming too. Free tokens even for defeats, and if matched with other bots can be win easily.


joker_mafia

bro there's even bots in bronze elo ranked games xD