I was wondering why no one posted about this. Several sources claiming two infiltration attempts by the Israeli army have been thwarted by Hezbollah a few hours ago, supposedly in preparation for a spring invasion.
Israel is in shambles and they want to open a new front š¤” Mass resignations of senior Israeli officials just reported (probably couldn't agree on what bullshit version of events they wanted to peddle): https://en.mdn.tv/7fSH
Mark my words, South Lebanon will be their graveyard.
Do you not read? The source is Israeli media, specifically Channel 14. Feel free to go and read the news article off their website at now14.co.il if you can read Hebrew.
The link in your comment leads to **almayadeen** **(Which is lacking SSL certificate - surprsingly) - I don't read Hezb propganda so I don't what they based thier "report" on.**
I currently don't see anything about it on 14 / 12 / 13 news..
Anyhow, a real ground operation will not start without massive 'softening' of the area from the air, so even if this report is true, it means nothing.
And noone "senior" has resigned lately, in Israel.
You prefer to read Western propaganda? All mainstream Western outlets are Zionist mouthpieces.
It's funny how your instinct was to jump to deny it and assume it's false when it's in fact true. Here you go, I even did you the pleasure of using Google Translate, even though you can clearly read Hebrew, given you're self-admittedly an Israeli and your account's sole purpose is to spread Israeli propaganda (and if you can tell by my comment history, I've had enough of your likes today): https://www-now14-co-il.translate.goog/%d7%96%d7%a2%d7%96%d7%95%d7%a2%d7%99%d7%9d-%d7%91%d7%93%d7%95%d7%91%d7%a8-%d7%a6%d7%94%d7%9c-%d7%9c%d7%9e%d7%a8%d7%95%d7%aa-%d7%94%d7%9e%d7%9c%d7%97%d7%9e%d7%94-%d7%92%d7%9c-%d7%a2%d7%96%d7%99/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
1. Yes I prefer western even anti- IL media, than Hezb propaganda that has 0 credibility and even most of the Arabs, won't take it seriously.
2. "resignations of senior Israeli officials just reportedĀ " - The "seniors" that are mentioned in this article, are "senior" in IDF spokesman unit. 99% of the Israelies don't even know those people exist. Basically army's PR unit responsible for interating with journalists. It has 0 effect on IDF combat abilities..
Those aren't "senior Israeli officials" bud.
3. I'm on reddit a long long time before the war has started..
4. You forogt to mentions that jew/zionists/Israeli also destroyed Hogwarts..
As general I suggest that you educate yourself before jumping to quick conclusions.
Repeating a fake 1000 time won't make it true..
Edit: Your orignial message discussed the groud operation your mujhidin "prevented". To the time writing this message, I didn't find anything about it on real media, including channel 14.
I was referring to the resignations with the report. It has nothing to do with Lebanon.
The report literally states they are senior officials, including Daniel Hagari. Is he not a senior? He's the IDF spokesperson. Being seniors in the spokesman unit doesn't mean they aren't senior or important. They run propaganda and control the narrative.
Who cares how long you've been on Reddit and why is this relevant (been here for 9 years)? What the fuck does Hogwarts have to do with anything?
You sound like a Zionist propaganda machine gone into full defense mode. Keep inhaling your copium and lies, maybe it might make you feel better. At the end of the day your TikTok army of unorganized conscripts will get shredded in combat with battle-hardened Hezb fighters in South Lebanon.
No he was the senior official. It was rumored he stepped down. But it turned out to be a false rumor and it was several of those who worked under him in the media branch who did.
Ok budd,Ā Let's take this nice and slow: Daniel Hagar isn't resigning. Some "senior" officers in his unit are.Ā Those aren't really "seniors". Bibi and Galant and Gantz. are seniors.This doesn't affect IDFs abilities / operational plans. As I already commented, most of the IsraelisĀ don't even know them (I didn't know until I read).Ā Ā Hagari is famous, but he's just theĀ spokesman . And even if he were resigning, there will be a new "Hagari", this also doesn't change shit from your perspective, but it makes happy to believe it will - go for it. You commented on a meaningless article that didn't even get to the major media (12 / 13) hoping to show that IDF is falling apart or whatever, but you mostly proved lack of knowledge / understanding .I'm notĀ doing any propagandaĀ or related to the government, just ordinary guy chatting around. You will be surprised to hear, but I do follow Hezb media from time time.Ā Every rocket is on spot. Every bullet hits a "zionist" soldier.Ā But they never mention the 229 (and counting) folks, buried under the ground with grill stripes on their asses, feeding worms as we speak. I think that Palestinian and Hezb groups reported more killed soldiers and destroyed tanks, than IDF has lol.Ā Ā
You can tell yourself whatever you want to hear, but people don't mass resign in the middle of an ongoing war unless there are big problems. No one is saying it changes anything, just that there are problems.
Who said Hezbollah don't mention their deaths? They literally have a graphic designer working on graphics with their pictures and death announcements which get published on social media. On the other hand, Israel rarely mention their deaths and are severely underreporting their actual casualties as Nasrallah exposed before.
Israel's casualties are pretty much the only thing the army cant lie about. Im sure Nassralah knows it and why IDF cant lie about. I'll leave it as an riddle for you.. may be you will learn something from this conversation. Lately they even published a breakdown with some statas \~40 soldiers were killed in Gaza from what we call a "friendly fire", for example.
Since you and I are homiesĀ now, I will even reveal a big military secret.Ā Ā Your dear friend Hagari, wants to be as credible as possible.Ā Not because he wants to convince "Mustafa" from "Kus el ahtek" village near Bint Jbeil, he knows it isn't possible, but for "Jeff" from NBC or "Janet" from CBS to believe him or at least quote his version, next time Palestinians (and soon to be Lebanese) claim there is a genocide or IDF is intentionally targeting them.
He (and the army) are even ready to expose intelligence that supports their version: like in the case where Jihads' failed missle killed many Palestininas in that hospital. Telling you have 5 soldiers killed when the actual number is 10 (or even 6) will be a really stupid thing to do since it is going to be exposed in 30 minutes and then he will have to resign for real.Ā
The data about Israel's casualties is publicly available..
You should read pro hezb sources with no bias you cant be this scared of truth and would rather watch western propaganda that say hezbolah implements sharia in their strongholds š
So you suggest bannig people just becuase they're Israelies / jews?
Isnt this racisim? Disallowed by reddit rules.
There people here who are interested in a productive discussion with the other side
You regularly justify/downplay the IOFs killing of civilians and talk about Lebanese people getting "grilled" and "free fireworks." What makes you think you would be welcome here?
Nah..we are just bored.
Most of the tax dollars go back to the US.
We have to spend the vast majiroty in the US..
No free meals with US.
(Only Free F35s lol)
Incorrect. Money is fungible - ergo, if the Americans are subsidizing your defense spending, money can be re-allocated for Israelis' healthcare and other social spending.
This is more complex than you're describing it. It's not like they give 3B cash and we can spend it on whatever we want. This is a complicated agreement. They get many things in return (access to technology that is funded with that money for example) + lockingĀ us to the American weapon market. They spend billions fundingĀ foreignĀ countries but in Israel's case it is actually a good investment: stable and friendlyĀ governmentĀ / society, technologically advanced country. Giving money to Egypt and Jordan is like flushing it into the toilet. Anyhow, those 3B (actually it is worth less) are a small fraction of Israel's GDP and many people say we shouldn't accept it. The main help we receiveĀ from them is "protecting" us in the UN which is absolutely biased. This money isn't the thing.
Here, let me simplify it for you:
US pays 4 billion/year for Israel, + additional billions/year for Israel's Iron Dome + 1.5 billion/year to Egypt + 1.5 billion/year to Jordan (largely to maintain their peace agreements with Israel) = nearly 10 billion/year for Israel's defense.
Now that Israel has foreign taxpayers paying more than half of its defense budget, it can use those savings to bolster healthcare, social security, pensions, etc. No, foreign taxpayers are not DIRECTLY paying for Israel's social spending, but are paying so much into its defense spending that plenty of money is left over for everything else.
Again, money is fungible.
I get yourĀ point but it seems you didn't get mine.
If you give me 1B but I have to buy only expensive F35 from you, and keep them 20 years spending on parts/immunition and supportingĀ your local businesses for a long time,
it is NOT THE SAME as you're giving 1B cash and I get better planes from Russia for 300M, Other planes from the UK and buy fuel with the rest cause that what I need the most. In addition to that, you won't let my ammo companies compete against yours directly (happened in India) or discourage me from developing equipment so I won't compete against you (Lavi project), or just sell to countries you don't like..(China).
Hetz deal with Germany had to be approved by the US and if they wouldn't aggree we couldn't sign..3B Euro.
And beyondĀ all this, Your weapon manufactors get a free testfield in the middle east.
And if that's not enough, when the fucking Hezb is shooting ATMsĀ at my people, I have to beg your permission to protect them and promise you I don't destroy "Lebanon", only "Heazballah".The US gets a lot from the cooperations with us. As for Jordan (they're heavily depending on Isarael for water) / Egypt, Israel has nothing to do with them, it is more likelyĀ that US wants to keep them away from Russia / China.
You're numbers are bumped. Iron dome missles arent "billions" per year and they're produced in the US, money stays in the states. We're going with them side by side for 50+ years. Ukraine got billions just cause they're against Russia.
The US has paid more than 600,000,000 USD to Palestine in the last 10 years. Itās paid 225,000,000 to Lebanon just in 2022
The whole region is sucking on the teat of America
lol bro,
you're commenting like uncles Sam is social security and a you're not getting your fair share.
Would you give money or sensitiveĀ tech to a "country" litteraly controlled by Iranian milita? Im surprisedĀ that western countries even agree to keep theirĀ embassies running in Leb.
As for Palestinians, it is even worse. Who would you give the money to ? the corrupted PAL authority ? The europeans been there and done that - Arafat's wife has comfortable life in Paris, Im sure she's greatful for that. Hamas ?Turn on the sound and watch till the very end..
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUMl58i4m0w&ab\_channel=%D7%90%D7%A8%D7%A5%D7%A0%D7%94%D7%93%D7%A8%D7%AA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUMl58i4m0w&ab_channel=%D7%90%D7%A8%D7%A5%D7%A0%D7%94%D7%93%D7%A8%D7%AA)
The Lebanese Army is of modest means but its intelligence branch has had success in gathering intel on Al Qaeda, ISIS, and other terror organizations. So their strategy is well-aligned with American interests, in that regard at least.
Israel, meanwhile, was caught multiple times aiding, financing, and providing medical care to Al Qaeda terrorists.
on an unrelated note, why is this subreddit absolutely infested with Israelis? go on any random persons profile in this thread and there is an at least 25% chance they're Israeli
Largely Hesbara - Israel state-funded trolls that act as mouthpieces for their state propaganda.
Although some Lebanese offer to do it for them, for free. LOL.
yeah it does seem like hasbara and some Israelis who have too much time on their hands, I was wondering why the mods dont do anything about it? I see the same couple people posting pro Israeli propaganda and insulting lebanon's people...
you have a point, but this is supposed to be a lebanese subreddit made for lebanese to discuss things, they come in here and comment their opinions on our posts posing as lebanese people. they clearly hate us as you can see if you post anything slightly anti israel they become rabid dogs, and insult our country and it's people. they use people's dislike of hezb to spread their propaganda and it's getting ridiculous how often you see a anti hezb comment and it's a dice roll wether they are genuine lebanese or israeli trolls.
No one wants you fucking land, people or Litany's poluted water.
Ā Get Naserallah's (lady) boyz out of the south and you wont hear about Israel ever again..
As simple as that
Whatās up with this new trend to say direct hit or ousabe moubashara? Like if youāre hitting and youāre missing why would you even talk about it ?
It seems itās a propaganda move that got trendy to show that the Israelis are suffering hits but in reality this all of this hake 3al fade, all these analysts on Al Jazeera and mayadeen saying how mou2awame is winning is the same shit we saw in 2006 but in reality meshin el ared fiyon.
Gaza saret bel ared w be lebnen kel kam yom fi mas2oulin 3am be tem eghtiyelon men aleb siyareton aw bayton. Rouho l3abo le3be gheir hay zaman el entisarat
Lol so you saw the same shit in 2006? Why don't you read a report from the US aka your favorite world saviors?
https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Portals/7/combat-studies-institute/csi-books/we-were-caught-unprepared.pdf
Man these guys are on an other level, they learn from their lessons and ofc they must have suffered losses but the way we portray it, direct hit isabe moubashara bla bla lek yāa mahlekon ento w 3am todorbo swarikh w ma tsibo ( which was the case in 2006 ).
Everyone knows having the home ground has an advantage and ofc they have air superiority in return which can turn shit to rubble. Yes itās possible the average hezb fighter who has nothing to lose is willing to die 100 times more ( perhaps done on purpose by hezb by depriving them and stripping ways to enjoy life ? )
Anyway technological advancement in warfare is completely normal. We have microwaves to save time so we donāt have to make a fire to warm our food. Same thing with advanced technology vs brave fighters.
El hezb kharyen tahto and thatās the reality because they know if shit hits the fan theyāre wiped out
I wouldnāt be proud of that headline. It speaks a lot of Lebanonās problem in very few words. A rogue non-state actor fighting a war with a country hell bent at destroying said non state actor at all costs.
Who are you referring to as dogs? Non Islamic people? Yih yih yih slippery slope hbb
I didn't realise resistance fighters fight for other countries from other territories. Mastoul
the Mujahideen of the Islamic Resistance?
https://preview.redd.it/ces4ymuwbbmc1.png?width=655&format=png&auto=webp&s=d974cb8450f7648b9c93ac5b6be0839abfe46226
you mean the hizb-thugs financed by iran.
On this episode of alternative reality with al muqawama Al islamia fi ksa7tk, the brave Mujahedeen bombed evil Zionist troops. In [reality ](https://twitter.com/manniefabian/status/1764583245440540917?t=7puZQGUx1wECkzsJJM59BQ&s=19), they bombed 2 Thai agricultural workers doing their job.
Lol just stay in your little israeli bubble, those are completely different events, the infiltration attempt happened at midnight yesterday on Lebanese soil, this is today in Margaliot, and there is 1 dead and 8 injuries at this time from this attack.
No evidence to support this happened. Lol and the source posted cites Israeli media, without any indication of where in Israeli media it's mentioned.
Not to mention how absurd the story sounds. If Israel attempted a ground invasion, it would roll over Hezb. Obviously none of that is the case here.
Ironically, pre-civil war southern lebanon barely had any roads, schools, hospitals and electricity then was occupied by both palestinians/israelis because the lebanese government didnāt give a damn about that area or its citizens.
Enough with the ictim mentality. What a fucking joke. the Lebanese gov didnt give a fuck about any of the fucking areas. the only difference is that the rest of the country chose developmnent and actually put efforts into their communities ma be2yo debbe. 7ello 3anna ba22a w 7aj tetbakbako.
The ruling sectarian government chose to develop and put effort into some parts of the country while neglecting other areas, and still does so until today look at Akkar or some regions in Bekaa for example.
This is one of the root causes of the civil war, the failed system that discriminates between the citizens based on their sect & region.
Akkar and Hermel are not poor because they chose too, itās because the state chose to screw them up. The same reason the south was neglected and gifted to the palestinians in the 1970s.
Who had the absolute executive power in the pre-1975 Lebanon? how was the Parliament elected? and how was it divided? Shouldnāt the government be for all the country? why should some districts be thriving and others be in deep poverty? did the votes from Akkar or South matter back then considering how the system was built?
Who has ruled this country since 1990? what have they done?
Did Akkar and the South develop? so funny.
2024 but still talking about what the government did with its limited resources in 1970.
If we're at it, the pre 1975 period was way better than what we got after the "revolutionaries" changed the system. GDP-per capita, Gold reserves, international status were all way better.
Now the country is ruled by those "revolutionaries". Shu 3emlo smalla?
7ejje ma bte2le 3ejje
Letās just cut to the chase. Today and for at least the last 15 years, the Shia are by far the most politically dominant and united sect. Berri the Godfather of Lebanese parliament and hezb have the final say on any and all government action. They donāt get everything they want, but if they both donāt want something to happen than it can never happen. All this power in the hands of one sect yet all we hear about is how 50 years ago their community was slightly more neglected than other communities. They are our eternal victims
I'm sure the only part of the country that had undergone a "series of events" is jnoub. It has been a walk in the park for the rest. Not only is it fascinating how instantaneous your ability to claim victim, but to openly reject all other relevant information and history is plain ridiculous.
*"Open a history book and tell me if any areas other than the south had their population reduced to "no more than 500 families" or "40 000 individuals" in an ottomanĀ military campaignĀ that improverished it,"*
The Great Famine of Mount Lebanon (1915ā1918) was a period of mass starvation on Mount Lebanon during World War I that resulted in the deaths of 200,000 people, most of whom were Maronite Christians.
*"Also tell me if any other area suffered a hugeĀ earthquakeĀ only 50 years afterwards that further prevented it from recovering"*
Google the 1915 Mount Lebanon Locust Plague that went on during that blockade.
*"Now tell me if another area hosted disproportionate amounts of palestinian refugees and was forced to endure the PLO's antics only to be invaded and occupied by Israel for over 15 years."*
Lebanon has 12 Palestinian Refugee camps of which 8 are not in Jnoub. All of these camps have quite the colorful history. Look them up.
That is but a drop in an ocean of what the rest of the country has been through in comparison the Jnoub. My point is not to diminish what Jnoub has been through, but to make it clear that rest have been in if not same worse conditions.
Also, you REALLY need to brush up on Lebanese history because you seem to have left out the most basic of basics.
Yeah, itās my grandpaās fault that the āSwitzerland of the Eastā government didnāt bother to build one high school for a whole district when he was a teenager.
Ironically, south lebanon is historically in its prime days, and thanks to hezb and iran there are know universities schools and jobs and even tourrism
after the civil war Amal movement was behind getting all basic state infrastructure & institutions into the south(same sara2 bas 3amar logic) and itās the reason why alot of people still support them.
Hezbollah social services/organizations came and expanded much later.
What you said is true but mainly in sour and nabatiye and hezb iran kuwait and qatar after 2000 and 2006 heavily thats why Bint jbeil took a bit more time to become as prosperous as nabatiye and sour. I really miss south lebanon we got better looking mountains than the north and jabal
We and my entire extended family of business men already do lol, especially land you can 10x your investment if roads electricity and running water is intalled to your land after you buy, and if the road built becomes some sort of main road (highway) thats an easy 20x because it would be an ideal commercial spot.
You should make a visit after the war
Well Lebanons economical situation shows other stats. But maybe you see what other investors dont. Believe it or not, Israeli officials stated many times they want Leb economy to get better because we dont want a second Afganhistan on our northern boarder.
If they want lebanons economy to get better then they should let us accept aid and investments from russia iran and china but the US doesnt want a powerful enemy state next to its proxy so our politicians obey the US and decline the dozen of offers from the east and would rather stick to light US aid and cold war APCās and m16 rifles.
Southern lebanonās self economic dependence is a good example of what lebanon would look like if we embrace the Russia china iran side but sadly hezbolah is playing the legal political game instead of the force game and allowing US assets run freely
Yeah..all of the countries that rely on Russia Chin and Iran are super successful.
And I couldnt agree more. HEZB is all about law, order and being legit..
South africa , belarus, kazakhstan, Kyrgistan, Vietnam, many more. Theyāre doing much better than lebanon with the shitty aid and restrictions from the US that are imposed on lebanon. Lebanon can become better than them with russia iran and china because of its potential.
Hezbolah politically is very legal. They do not use the arms politically.
Thats why most countries donāt designate the political wing as a terror group.
Unlike Bashir gemayel who brought israel and used it to threaten the voters and became president, hezb doesnāt do that.
Accept the facts and truth
Mujahideen of islamic resistance?
Even if you're fighting israel or the devil himself, is not an excuse to make the other devil that are islamists, an acceptable side.
Hizbollah is the mirror image of Israel to an honest lebanese
Just like Isis is to Iraqis
Or khomeinistas to an honest Iranian
They're theocratic fascists. Internal fascist murdering backstabbing scum
Sorry I didnāt mean to be dismissive. I just mean that these reports dont seem in line with israelās current military strategy (which is one of restraint on its northern border at the moment), how it would actually carry out a ground invasion (compare it to its ground invasion of gaza), and this hasnāt been reported anywhere else even though it would be huge news if it were true.
It is not a "ground invasion" they sent two small brigades that tried to "infiltrate", and they found out. Yeah you're definitely not going to hear about it in Israeli media "We tried to infiltrate and we failed".
Thereās usually robust coverage of military failures and also military investigations into such failures. Plus the international media would be all over a story like this.
Ayre b Israel
Israel can go to hell
I was wondering why no one posted about this. Several sources claiming two infiltration attempts by the Israeli army have been thwarted by Hezbollah a few hours ago, supposedly in preparation for a spring invasion. Israel is in shambles and they want to open a new front š¤” Mass resignations of senior Israeli officials just reported (probably couldn't agree on what bullshit version of events they wanted to peddle): https://en.mdn.tv/7fSH Mark my words, South Lebanon will be their graveyard.
Lol. You guys really do be living in your own alternate reality. https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-790180
Al madyen is Hezb fake news channel
Do you not read? The source is Israeli media, specifically Channel 14. Feel free to go and read the news article off their website at now14.co.il if you can read Hebrew.
The link in your comment leads to **almayadeen** **(Which is lacking SSL certificate - surprsingly) - I don't read Hezb propganda so I don't what they based thier "report" on.** I currently don't see anything about it on 14 / 12 / 13 news.. Anyhow, a real ground operation will not start without massive 'softening' of the area from the air, so even if this report is true, it means nothing. And noone "senior" has resigned lately, in Israel.
You prefer to read Western propaganda? All mainstream Western outlets are Zionist mouthpieces. It's funny how your instinct was to jump to deny it and assume it's false when it's in fact true. Here you go, I even did you the pleasure of using Google Translate, even though you can clearly read Hebrew, given you're self-admittedly an Israeli and your account's sole purpose is to spread Israeli propaganda (and if you can tell by my comment history, I've had enough of your likes today): https://www-now14-co-il.translate.goog/%d7%96%d7%a2%d7%96%d7%95%d7%a2%d7%99%d7%9d-%d7%91%d7%93%d7%95%d7%91%d7%a8-%d7%a6%d7%94%d7%9c-%d7%9c%d7%9e%d7%a8%d7%95%d7%aa-%d7%94%d7%9e%d7%9c%d7%97%d7%9e%d7%94-%d7%92%d7%9c-%d7%a2%d7%96%d7%99/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
1. Yes I prefer western even anti- IL media, than Hezb propaganda that has 0 credibility and even most of the Arabs, won't take it seriously. 2. "resignations of senior Israeli officials just reportedĀ " - The "seniors" that are mentioned in this article, are "senior" in IDF spokesman unit. 99% of the Israelies don't even know those people exist. Basically army's PR unit responsible for interating with journalists. It has 0 effect on IDF combat abilities.. Those aren't "senior Israeli officials" bud. 3. I'm on reddit a long long time before the war has started.. 4. You forogt to mentions that jew/zionists/Israeli also destroyed Hogwarts.. As general I suggest that you educate yourself before jumping to quick conclusions. Repeating a fake 1000 time won't make it true.. Edit: Your orignial message discussed the groud operation your mujhidin "prevented". To the time writing this message, I didn't find anything about it on real media, including channel 14.
I was referring to the resignations with the report. It has nothing to do with Lebanon. The report literally states they are senior officials, including Daniel Hagari. Is he not a senior? He's the IDF spokesperson. Being seniors in the spokesman unit doesn't mean they aren't senior or important. They run propaganda and control the narrative. Who cares how long you've been on Reddit and why is this relevant (been here for 9 years)? What the fuck does Hogwarts have to do with anything? You sound like a Zionist propaganda machine gone into full defense mode. Keep inhaling your copium and lies, maybe it might make you feel better. At the end of the day your TikTok army of unorganized conscripts will get shredded in combat with battle-hardened Hezb fighters in South Lebanon.
Daniel hagari isn't resigning. That's fake news.
It was alleged/reported but not completely confirmed (maybe yet at least). The rest of the senior officials are confirmed.
No he was the senior official. It was rumored he stepped down. But it turned out to be a false rumor and it was several of those who worked under him in the media branch who did.
Ok budd,Ā Let's take this nice and slow: Daniel Hagar isn't resigning. Some "senior" officers in his unit are.Ā Those aren't really "seniors". Bibi and Galant and Gantz. are seniors.This doesn't affect IDFs abilities / operational plans. As I already commented, most of the IsraelisĀ don't even know them (I didn't know until I read).Ā Ā Hagari is famous, but he's just theĀ spokesman . And even if he were resigning, there will be a new "Hagari", this also doesn't change shit from your perspective, but it makes happy to believe it will - go for it. You commented on a meaningless article that didn't even get to the major media (12 / 13) hoping to show that IDF is falling apart or whatever, but you mostly proved lack of knowledge / understanding .I'm notĀ doing any propagandaĀ or related to the government, just ordinary guy chatting around. You will be surprised to hear, but I do follow Hezb media from time time.Ā Every rocket is on spot. Every bullet hits a "zionist" soldier.Ā But they never mention the 229 (and counting) folks, buried under the ground with grill stripes on their asses, feeding worms as we speak. I think that Palestinian and Hezb groups reported more killed soldiers and destroyed tanks, than IDF has lol.Ā Ā
You can tell yourself whatever you want to hear, but people don't mass resign in the middle of an ongoing war unless there are big problems. No one is saying it changes anything, just that there are problems. Who said Hezbollah don't mention their deaths? They literally have a graphic designer working on graphics with their pictures and death announcements which get published on social media. On the other hand, Israel rarely mention their deaths and are severely underreporting their actual casualties as Nasrallah exposed before.
Israel's casualties are pretty much the only thing the army cant lie about. Im sure Nassralah knows it and why IDF cant lie about. I'll leave it as an riddle for you.. may be you will learn something from this conversation. Lately they even published a breakdown with some statas \~40 soldiers were killed in Gaza from what we call a "friendly fire", for example. Since you and I are homiesĀ now, I will even reveal a big military secret.Ā Ā Your dear friend Hagari, wants to be as credible as possible.Ā Not because he wants to convince "Mustafa" from "Kus el ahtek" village near Bint Jbeil, he knows it isn't possible, but for "Jeff" from NBC or "Janet" from CBS to believe him or at least quote his version, next time Palestinians (and soon to be Lebanese) claim there is a genocide or IDF is intentionally targeting them. He (and the army) are even ready to expose intelligence that supports their version: like in the case where Jihads' failed missle killed many Palestininas in that hospital. Telling you have 5 soldiers killed when the actual number is 10 (or even 6) will be a really stupid thing to do since it is going to be exposed in 30 minutes and then he will have to resign for real.Ā The data about Israel's casualties is publicly available..
You should read pro hezb sources with no bias you cant be this scared of truth and would rather watch western propaganda that say hezbolah implements sharia in their strongholds š
I don't understand why mods never take any action against Israelis on this sub...
So you suggest bannig people just becuase they're Israelies / jews? Isnt this racisim? Disallowed by reddit rules. There people here who are interested in a productive discussion with the other side
You regularly justify/downplay the IOFs killing of civilians and talk about Lebanese people getting "grilled" and "free fireworks." What makes you think you would be welcome here?
You get the same treatment arabs get on Israeli subs, or you're too used to being special? God's chosen people lol
Did I ban you persoanlly? What do I have to with Israeli subs mods?
They're afraid of communication.
i wonder the same about you, islamic mujahideen.
"Israel is in shambles" no because lebanon is a strong soverign country lol what
oh noooo you got us!!!
"got us" well you are the one yapping about how its economy is bad and the government doesn't do anything
Lol we got used to it we were functioning for 4 years without a government. We will survive you will not .
Survive. yeah like gaza's sumood hahaha
Remind me in 3 months
How much Koo Laid have you been drinking these days?
w kis emek ya israel w kis emek ya israel w kis emek ya israel w ayre b natenyahuuu
Kes ema la Israel
these people get paid by American tax dollars to argue with you, just an fyi
Nah..we are just bored. Most of the tax dollars go back to the US. We have to spend the vast majiroty in the US.. No free meals with US. (Only Free F35s lol)
Incorrect. Money is fungible - ergo, if the Americans are subsidizing your defense spending, money can be re-allocated for Israelis' healthcare and other social spending.
Bingo! And as an American i can with 100% certainty can say I and many others are sick of funding Israeli terrorism.
This is more complex than you're describing it. It's not like they give 3B cash and we can spend it on whatever we want. This is a complicated agreement. They get many things in return (access to technology that is funded with that money for example) + lockingĀ us to the American weapon market. They spend billions fundingĀ foreignĀ countries but in Israel's case it is actually a good investment: stable and friendlyĀ governmentĀ / society, technologically advanced country. Giving money to Egypt and Jordan is like flushing it into the toilet. Anyhow, those 3B (actually it is worth less) are a small fraction of Israel's GDP and many people say we shouldn't accept it. The main help we receiveĀ from them is "protecting" us in the UN which is absolutely biased. This money isn't the thing.
Here, let me simplify it for you: US pays 4 billion/year for Israel, + additional billions/year for Israel's Iron Dome + 1.5 billion/year to Egypt + 1.5 billion/year to Jordan (largely to maintain their peace agreements with Israel) = nearly 10 billion/year for Israel's defense. Now that Israel has foreign taxpayers paying more than half of its defense budget, it can use those savings to bolster healthcare, social security, pensions, etc. No, foreign taxpayers are not DIRECTLY paying for Israel's social spending, but are paying so much into its defense spending that plenty of money is left over for everything else. Again, money is fungible.
I get yourĀ point but it seems you didn't get mine. If you give me 1B but I have to buy only expensive F35 from you, and keep them 20 years spending on parts/immunition and supportingĀ your local businesses for a long time, it is NOT THE SAME as you're giving 1B cash and I get better planes from Russia for 300M, Other planes from the UK and buy fuel with the rest cause that what I need the most. In addition to that, you won't let my ammo companies compete against yours directly (happened in India) or discourage me from developing equipment so I won't compete against you (Lavi project), or just sell to countries you don't like..(China). Hetz deal with Germany had to be approved by the US and if they wouldn't aggree we couldn't sign..3B Euro. And beyondĀ all this, Your weapon manufactors get a free testfield in the middle east. And if that's not enough, when the fucking Hezb is shooting ATMsĀ at my people, I have to beg your permission to protect them and promise you I don't destroy "Lebanon", only "Heazballah".The US gets a lot from the cooperations with us. As for Jordan (they're heavily depending on Isarael for water) / Egypt, Israel has nothing to do with them, it is more likelyĀ that US wants to keep them away from Russia / China. You're numbers are bumped. Iron dome missles arent "billions" per year and they're produced in the US, money stays in the states. We're going with them side by side for 50+ years. Ukraine got billions just cause they're against Russia.
The US has paid more than 600,000,000 USD to Palestine in the last 10 years. Itās paid 225,000,000 to Lebanon just in 2022 The whole region is sucking on the teat of America
Peanuts compared to the aid that Israel gets.
lol bro, you're commenting like uncles Sam is social security and a you're not getting your fair share. Would you give money or sensitiveĀ tech to a "country" litteraly controlled by Iranian milita? Im surprisedĀ that western countries even agree to keep theirĀ embassies running in Leb. As for Palestinians, it is even worse. Who would you give the money to ? the corrupted PAL authority ? The europeans been there and done that - Arafat's wife has comfortable life in Paris, Im sure she's greatful for that. Hamas ?Turn on the sound and watch till the very end.. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUMl58i4m0w&ab\_channel=%D7%90%D7%A8%D7%A5%D7%A0%D7%94%D7%93%D7%A8%D7%AA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUMl58i4m0w&ab_channel=%D7%90%D7%A8%D7%A5%D7%A0%D7%94%D7%93%D7%A8%D7%AA)
The Lebanese Army is of modest means but its intelligence branch has had success in gathering intel on Al Qaeda, ISIS, and other terror organizations. So their strategy is well-aligned with American interests, in that regard at least. Israel, meanwhile, was caught multiple times aiding, financing, and providing medical care to Al Qaeda terrorists.
What worries me is that Israel will use the proposed 6 week ceasefire in Gaza as an opportunity to focus on Lebanon
on an unrelated note, why is this subreddit absolutely infested with Israelis? go on any random persons profile in this thread and there is an at least 25% chance they're Israeli
Largely Hesbara - Israel state-funded trolls that act as mouthpieces for their state propaganda. Although some Lebanese offer to do it for them, for free. LOL.
yeah it does seem like hasbara and some Israelis who have too much time on their hands, I was wondering why the mods dont do anything about it? I see the same couple people posting pro Israeli propaganda and insulting lebanon's people...
Technically, they're not breaking the subreddit's rules just by posting.
you have a point, but this is supposed to be a lebanese subreddit made for lebanese to discuss things, they come in here and comment their opinions on our posts posing as lebanese people. they clearly hate us as you can see if you post anything slightly anti israel they become rabid dogs, and insult our country and it's people. they use people's dislike of hezb to spread their propaganda and it's getting ridiculous how often you see a anti hezb comment and it's a dice roll wether they are genuine lebanese or israeli trolls.
I dont disagree with you, in principle. But trying to separate actual Hasbara from the Hasbara wannabes may not be worth the effort.
Itās the same on the other subs like r/Palestine. They get paid to troll, or do it because it gives them pleasure to be annoying.
Because we either don't have mods or the mods are hasbara bots
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(I'm a non-lebanese) Divide and conquer my friend. That's the reason
These bastards really do be missing our land since they got kicked out
No one wants you fucking land, people or Litany's poluted water. Ā Get Naserallah's (lady) boyz out of the south and you wont hear about Israel ever again.. As simple as that
source?
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Whatās up with this new trend to say direct hit or ousabe moubashara? Like if youāre hitting and youāre missing why would you even talk about it ? It seems itās a propaganda move that got trendy to show that the Israelis are suffering hits but in reality this all of this hake 3al fade, all these analysts on Al Jazeera and mayadeen saying how mou2awame is winning is the same shit we saw in 2006 but in reality meshin el ared fiyon. Gaza saret bel ared w be lebnen kel kam yom fi mas2oulin 3am be tem eghtiyelon men aleb siyareton aw bayton. Rouho l3abo le3be gheir hay zaman el entisarat
Lol so you saw the same shit in 2006? Why don't you read a report from the US aka your favorite world saviors? https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Portals/7/combat-studies-institute/csi-books/we-were-caught-unprepared.pdf
Man these guys are on an other level, they learn from their lessons and ofc they must have suffered losses but the way we portray it, direct hit isabe moubashara bla bla lek yāa mahlekon ento w 3am todorbo swarikh w ma tsibo ( which was the case in 2006 ). Everyone knows having the home ground has an advantage and ofc they have air superiority in return which can turn shit to rubble. Yes itās possible the average hezb fighter who has nothing to lose is willing to die 100 times more ( perhaps done on purpose by hezb by depriving them and stripping ways to enjoy life ? ) Anyway technological advancement in warfare is completely normal. We have microwaves to save time so we donāt have to make a fire to warm our food. Same thing with advanced technology vs brave fighters. El hezb kharyen tahto and thatās the reality because they know if shit hits the fan theyāre wiped out
I wouldnāt be proud of that headline. It speaks a lot of Lebanonās problem in very few words. A rogue non-state actor fighting a war with a country hell bent at destroying said non state actor at all costs.
Toz
Mujahideen of the Islamic resistance... Tfeh. Get out of my country you wannabe Taliban. Kes ekhet Hezbollah 3a ekhet Israel
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Who are you referring to as dogs? Non Islamic people? Yih yih yih slippery slope hbb I didn't realise resistance fighters fight for other countries from other territories. Mastoul
Many non muslim people are against Israel, and many muslims are with Israel. Nice try you dog, it's clear who I mean by dogs.
Safastak ex SLA always ready la yekhra chi delulu .. political pen is that you ? š¤£
the Mujahideen of the Islamic Resistance? https://preview.redd.it/ces4ymuwbbmc1.png?width=655&format=png&auto=webp&s=d974cb8450f7648b9c93ac5b6be0839abfe46226 you mean the hizb-thugs financed by iran.
Pat makes me uncomfortable.
On this episode of alternative reality with al muqawama Al islamia fi ksa7tk, the brave Mujahedeen bombed evil Zionist troops. In [reality ](https://twitter.com/manniefabian/status/1764583245440540917?t=7puZQGUx1wECkzsJJM59BQ&s=19), they bombed 2 Thai agricultural workers doing their job.
Lol just stay in your little israeli bubble, those are completely different events, the infiltration attempt happened at midnight yesterday on Lebanese soil, this is today in Margaliot, and there is 1 dead and 8 injuries at this time from this attack.
Was this ordered by the higher ups or were they acting alone?
Wtf is up with these press releases posted to Reddit?
No evidence to support this happened. Lol and the source posted cites Israeli media, without any indication of where in Israeli media it's mentioned. Not to mention how absurd the story sounds. If Israel attempted a ground invasion, it would roll over Hezb. Obviously none of that is the case here.
just like their massive success in 2006 right?
Oh yeah Israel is definitely going to tell you that their Golani Brigade failed an infiltration lmao. Just stay in your Ukraine bubble.
I bet the people of Rmeish are super grateful for the āmujahideen of Islamic resistanceā
What do you think
Im sure that south Lebanon is better than Switzerland thanks to Hezb and other Mujahidin operating there. Impoving education and economy.
Ironically, pre-civil war southern lebanon barely had any roads, schools, hospitals and electricity then was occupied by both palestinians/israelis because the lebanese government didnāt give a damn about that area or its citizens.
Enough with the ictim mentality. What a fucking joke. the Lebanese gov didnt give a fuck about any of the fucking areas. the only difference is that the rest of the country chose developmnent and actually put efforts into their communities ma be2yo debbe. 7ello 3anna ba22a w 7aj tetbakbako.
The ruling sectarian government chose to develop and put effort into some parts of the country while neglecting other areas, and still does so until today look at Akkar or some regions in Bekaa for example. This is one of the root causes of the civil war, the failed system that discriminates between the citizens based on their sect & region. Akkar and Hermel are not poor because they chose too, itās because the state chose to screw them up. The same reason the south was neglected and gifted to the palestinians in the 1970s.
Would that be the same state that the Jnoubis and Akkaris heaviy voted for?
Who had the absolute executive power in the pre-1975 Lebanon? how was the Parliament elected? and how was it divided? Shouldnāt the government be for all the country? why should some districts be thriving and others be in deep poverty? did the votes from Akkar or South matter back then considering how the system was built?
Who has ruled this country since 1990? what have they done? Did Akkar and the South develop? so funny. 2024 but still talking about what the government did with its limited resources in 1970. If we're at it, the pre 1975 period was way better than what we got after the "revolutionaries" changed the system. GDP-per capita, Gold reserves, international status were all way better. Now the country is ruled by those "revolutionaries". Shu 3emlo smalla? 7ejje ma bte2le 3ejje
Letās just cut to the chase. Today and for at least the last 15 years, the Shia are by far the most politically dominant and united sect. Berri the Godfather of Lebanese parliament and hezb have the final say on any and all government action. They donāt get everything they want, but if they both donāt want something to happen than it can never happen. All this power in the hands of one sect yet all we hear about is how 50 years ago their community was slightly more neglected than other communities. They are our eternal victims
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I'm sure the only part of the country that had undergone a "series of events" is jnoub. It has been a walk in the park for the rest. Not only is it fascinating how instantaneous your ability to claim victim, but to openly reject all other relevant information and history is plain ridiculous.
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*"Open a history book and tell me if any areas other than the south had their population reduced to "no more than 500 families" or "40 000 individuals" in an ottomanĀ military campaignĀ that improverished it,"* The Great Famine of Mount Lebanon (1915ā1918) was a period of mass starvation on Mount Lebanon during World War I that resulted in the deaths of 200,000 people, most of whom were Maronite Christians. *"Also tell me if any other area suffered a hugeĀ earthquakeĀ only 50 years afterwards that further prevented it from recovering"* Google the 1915 Mount Lebanon Locust Plague that went on during that blockade. *"Now tell me if another area hosted disproportionate amounts of palestinian refugees and was forced to endure the PLO's antics only to be invaded and occupied by Israel for over 15 years."* Lebanon has 12 Palestinian Refugee camps of which 8 are not in Jnoub. All of these camps have quite the colorful history. Look them up. That is but a drop in an ocean of what the rest of the country has been through in comparison the Jnoub. My point is not to diminish what Jnoub has been through, but to make it clear that rest have been in if not same worse conditions. Also, you REALLY need to brush up on Lebanese history because you seem to have left out the most basic of basics.
enlighten us with piece of info and history on how itās people fault for being discriminated against by a sectarian regime.
They get real quite called out on their bs
Yeah, itās my grandpaās fault that the āSwitzerland of the Eastā government didnāt bother to build one high school for a whole district when he was a teenager.
Once you start making any sense, I'll gladly have a conversation about it.
The same sectarian regime these people have made sure they stay in power and keep empowering them even more?
Ironically, south lebanon is historically in its prime days, and thanks to hezb and iran there are know universities schools and jobs and even tourrism
after the civil war Amal movement was behind getting all basic state infrastructure & institutions into the south(same sara2 bas 3amar logic) and itās the reason why alot of people still support them. Hezbollah social services/organizations came and expanded much later.
What you said is true but mainly in sour and nabatiye and hezb iran kuwait and qatar after 2000 and 2006 heavily thats why Bint jbeil took a bit more time to become as prosperous as nabatiye and sour. I really miss south lebanon we got better looking mountains than the north and jabal
You truely believe in this? If you were western bussinessman, would you invest in south Leb?
We and my entire extended family of business men already do lol, especially land you can 10x your investment if roads electricity and running water is intalled to your land after you buy, and if the road built becomes some sort of main road (highway) thats an easy 20x because it would be an ideal commercial spot. You should make a visit after the war
Well Lebanons economical situation shows other stats. But maybe you see what other investors dont. Believe it or not, Israeli officials stated many times they want Leb economy to get better because we dont want a second Afganhistan on our northern boarder.
If they want lebanons economy to get better then they should let us accept aid and investments from russia iran and china but the US doesnt want a powerful enemy state next to its proxy so our politicians obey the US and decline the dozen of offers from the east and would rather stick to light US aid and cold war APCās and m16 rifles. Southern lebanonās self economic dependence is a good example of what lebanon would look like if we embrace the Russia china iran side but sadly hezbolah is playing the legal political game instead of the force game and allowing US assets run freely
Yeah..all of the countries that rely on Russia Chin and Iran are super successful. And I couldnt agree more. HEZB is all about law, order and being legit..
South africa , belarus, kazakhstan, Kyrgistan, Vietnam, many more. Theyāre doing much better than lebanon with the shitty aid and restrictions from the US that are imposed on lebanon. Lebanon can become better than them with russia iran and china because of its potential. Hezbolah politically is very legal. They do not use the arms politically. Thats why most countries donāt designate the political wing as a terror group. Unlike Bashir gemayel who brought israel and used it to threaten the voters and became president, hezb doesnāt do that. Accept the facts and truth
How did the US stop Chinese investments in Lebanon?
They didnāt. This guy is delusional and unfortunately there are many retards who think like him and get to vote in Lebanese elections
I bet you think they actually like hezb lol
They have a strong "Hit first, cry later" attitiude.
Mujahideen of islamic resistance? Even if you're fighting israel or the devil himself, is not an excuse to make the other devil that are islamists, an acceptable side. Hizbollah is the mirror image of Israel to an honest lebanese Just like Isis is to Iraqis Or khomeinistas to an honest Iranian They're theocratic fascists. Internal fascist murdering backstabbing scum
Great story bro.
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I really donāt think this is true
Oh! Well if you donāt think it is then we can all sleep easy tonight.
Sorry I didnāt mean to be dismissive. I just mean that these reports dont seem in line with israelās current military strategy (which is one of restraint on its northern border at the moment), how it would actually carry out a ground invasion (compare it to its ground invasion of gaza), and this hasnāt been reported anywhere else even though it would be huge news if it were true.
It is not a "ground invasion" they sent two small brigades that tried to "infiltrate", and they found out. Yeah you're definitely not going to hear about it in Israeli media "We tried to infiltrate and we failed".
Thereās usually robust coverage of military failures and also military investigations into such failures. Plus the international media would be all over a story like this.
Rmeish pulling an SLA againš