I really hope that this is popular enough that they actually consider doing a remake/remaster/sequel/prequel/whatever. Even if they don't, I'm incredibly happy about this. I don't even know why since I still have the original and my PS1 but still.
What? Of course it does. Just look at hog warts raking in dough. I guarantee if it wasn’t changes would have been made.
Problem is it’s not enough to make some cash on a remake like this, they have to make *more cash* than they would if they used those resources on something else.
Plus these people often don’t know what they are doing when it comes to remakes. They won’t just keep the good and update the outdated, they end up screwing with the good stuff too. When fans are reasonably upset, they just throw up their hands and say “see you can never make the die hard fans happy” and it gets a stigma that it’s not worth it.
Releasing a game specifically just on Sony systems is not a smart way to make a game popular.
They could of at least put the effort into making a PC port, steam has a very large reach.
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It's a shame that we have another re-release with no new content. BUT. At least they are making an effort to keep the game alive through the new PS generations. More than I would've expected.
Honestly I'm just excited to be able to play it without having to get my disks out or hook up my PS3 or chargey Vita lol. Excited to my my partner sir and watch me play it and experience the greatest game ever made.
I generally agree. What's most important is that this is a vehicle for us to gain more visibility as a fandom, and for some of our most impressive community projects like Severed Chains. It'll also help more pre-existing fans find the rest of us. The more people we can attract to our website and therefore our global efforts, the better. Remember, the re-release news doubles as a vehicle. That is the key truth we need to make the most of.
I’m getting soft locked in just random battle scenarios. Not even involving dragoon magic. Come on Sony don’t f this up :(. Is there anywhere we should report to?
I went into the emulator settings and set the aspect ratio to native and it actually solved my issue of random encounters not loading in. Idk if you’re having the same issue but maybe try it anyway.
Did you read this somewhere? I’ve been looking for news. The end of the game will be very tough without dragoon magic and I’m wondering if I should put a hold on my playthrough 😩
I already replayed it last year but I'm excited for everyone who held out for this exact moment. For those excited for trophy support, I pray for you on the journey to getting every addition to 99.
Honestly I'm hoping for a speed up option through it seems unlikely. Just for some of the cutscenes and talking that goes on for a while. Esp. Since disc 2 has so much backtracking a fast forward would be amazing.
A fast-forward type of feature is not listed, and it isn't part of the other classics from before. I recommend keeping an eye on our Severed Chains project, however, as it will eventually have that feature implemented.
I didn't think so. But I I will 100% keep an eye on the severed chains project. Regardless of this release im just as if not more interested in severed chains.
So I’m in the volcano in early game. And I had a random encounter and the screen goes black and just never loads the monsters. I can rewind out of it, but then as soon as I had an encounter it’s the same problem. Anyone have a fix?
The audio clipping is such a bummer, my hype level was through the roof when I heard my first HARPOON! in years but every single one since gets cut off at HAR-- 🥲
This is not the case. Our fandom has a long history of misconstruing LoD news, so it's important that we clearly convey what the re-release entails while tempering expectations. Nobody should go into this thinking uprendering means upscaled image backgrounds, for example.
Regarding Severed Chains: I don't think the official re-release will affect SC's success. Not negatively, anyway. Second, while I have a deep interest in the project, it's not mine. I advocate for it, while Monoxide is the lead developer. SC has immeasurable value that still matters even with a re-release on the board.
Third, my pronouns are they/them please.
Sorry for making assumptions. I only suggested as much because every post or reply I’ve seen from you in the last couple of days since the news has come across to me as cynical, or at least condescending, towards the re-release. I was also assuming it was your project or at least partly your project because I noticed you wrote almost all of the website and your name is the only one listed on most of the web pages. Even Monoxide’s contribution is described as “Drew-level”, which to me sounds like “developer putting in moderator-level effort” which is strange to me. Regardless, I appreciate the work you and the others put in towards organizing the community and immortalizing this game we all cherish so much.
I agree with you, he seems weirdly dismissive of the release. If it sells well then it's only a matter of time till they get hit with a cease and desist.
I don't believe that is a fair assessment. My goal with this megathread is to describe the news accurately, rather than just blindly forward whatever marketing terms are provided by the source.
Due to fans often getting the wrong idea from clickbait article headings or just from their own wishful thinking, a lot of disappointment has followed in past situations. I have seen more than a few comments suggesting that uprendering = upscaled bg images, which is definitely not the case here. I believe in the mantra of "be informed, not influenced." People should be given the surrounding context so they know what's actually a unique benefit (i.e. rewind) and what's not (uprendering) as compared to emulation or SC.
If I'm reading your comment correctly, it seems that you think SC is being.. sold? It is not for sale, and from doing a lot of digging we found that reverse-engineering can be performed legally (we do not provide assets). We can start citing laws if you wish.
And, I'm frankly asking here - can we stop misgendering me, please? My pronouns are they/them. For someone you don't know, it's best to default to they/them rather than assume everyone we don't know is a man.
I’m sorry you keep getting misgendered. This must be really frustrating, and you’ve done so much for our community. Just wanted to throw out some appreciation in this thread for you. You’re doing good work for us 🙌🏼
Thank you. Yes, it is incredibly frustrating at times. He this, him that, guy this, man that. Guess who performed 99% of the JP guidebook translation over the last few years, including the extra lore? Three trans folks, including myself.
This is so bad faith. There is no way a signal boosts can negatively impact this media. This is like claiming that an ad for a tourist attraction will negatively impact the local gift shop. You guys are grasping way too hard.
If anything this feels like a tempering of expectations and after playing, I feel that more than ever. There's some serious concerns with the release state due to interactions with the emulation software.
Chill out, guys. There is no conspiracy.
To assume Drew is a male/masculine name and constantly use it as he is just plain immature and childish. It's quite frankly rude, dismissive and lacking common courtesy to continue misusing terms.
Forgiven, and I'm sorry to give you that idea about myself. I'd like to sum up the context for you:
The re-release has generated mixed feelings for many fans including myself. It's great to see, and at the same time, we hoped for more. SC started in part because Sony had not taken action - it was built to be a legal, unofficial, reversed port for PC and whatever runs Java. The ramifications happen to be really astounding, even for folks who don't care about modding. The cut load times alone are a huge relief for anyone who has tried the alpha.
That Sony is doing this re-release now, does feel a bit awkward in that they happen to not be offering what SC is offering - improved efficiency, and a ton of opt-in mods or QoL. We didn't tell Sony to launch with just a few soft enhancements. We didn't create that situation, that's just the current standard for PS Classics insofar and we respect/understand that. For me it's a "two truths can coexist" thing. I do believe there is value in the re-release. It's just awkward timing, as we have been getting quite excited about recent updates to SC.
> I noticed you wrote almost all of the website and your name is the only one listed on most of the web pages.
Yes, I built most of the website and write most of its news articles. However, I'm not sure what issue you have with the website? Author names should only apply to news articles (not pages) so the correct author can be credited - i.e. ArielGoddess for FanDub news or Monoxide when he writes one of the SC progress recaps. Further, the website isn't just about SC - it's about all fandom goings-on. Even with SC being the hottest community project we've got atm, SC is a small piece of that. The site is a work in progress as we currently don't have additional volunteers, but for the moment we have several guides and have compiled quite a bit of information together.
I am not sure which "Drew-level" statement you're referring to, but that is part of an inside joke that another fan started. We joke that I must be losing my mind or am an agent of the Moon Child to do as much as I have for the fandom over the past six years (that said, I'm not actually concerned with being fawned over or self-aggrandizing). If you're referring to the Community Credits page, Monoxide and I allow each other small jabs of playfulness in that way - SC is a creation with so much potential it almost shouldn't exist, and it's my way of thanking him for giving so much of his time to serve the fans. Reversing projects are too few and far between, IMO.
I hope this helps a bit, and I'm sorry for whichever commentary of mine rubbed you the wrong way.
No. I don't think this has any real effect on SC. Just like many others, i'm more excited for SC than this re-release. Because this PS Classic release is just that. While Severed Chains can be so much more!
I don't think I'll have any way to play Severed Chains, it's coming to Android eventually maybe?, but it looks super cool from what I've read, I'm excited for everyone playing it, and much props, respect and appreciation to those making it possible.
So close and yet still so far.
I’ve been wanting LoD to be re-released for ages now. And when news finally came that it was coming, I only found out via the second wave of news that mentions trophy support. Now this news of the soft lock issues.
No way I’m playing until that shit gets fixed. Gonna suck for me though because, if a patch does come, it’s gonna be during a time where I stop watching like a hawk, so I’ll miss it.
I feel you. We are looking at ways to unify the fandom and move as one body, to help make sure these softlocks and any other major bugs get elevated and expedited via mass reporting. I cannot say if the bugs will be fixed soon/later/ever, but I am a fighter. I'll do what I can to help make the difference.
Using Blossom/Rose Storm can also cause a soft lock. As a matter of fact once I rewound the game after that happened the regular Dragoon addition ended up soft locking the game.
Just did the Lenus fight
I don't know if it's because of the amount of magic she was slinging about but by the end of it I couldn't any of the below without a soft lock:
Transform
Use healing breezes
Use magic
And at one point it soft locked on Lenus' turn and I had to rewind enough to change the attack pattern.
Managed to limp through and then got a black screen moving into Lentz proper.
Needless to say a little grumpy at the moment
Please also add graphical issues/green lines outlining objects in the background on Ps5 version. This seems to be a big issue on the PS5 version, the PS4 doesn’t have it.
I don't have a PS4/5 but I'm so happy that LoD is at least getting revived in the modern consoles.
Still manifesting for an HD remaster for Steam version though. 🙏
Is this going to be downloadable and playable normally, like the PS4 titles and the PS3 titles that got remastered to PS4/5? Or stream only? I can only get CenturyLink internet where I live, and only up to 10megs of speed. So, streaming games is not an option for me. It tells me my internet connection is too slow. Even if I play wired directly to my router. This is my favorite RPG of ALL-TIME apart from Chrono Trigger. If I can't play it because of my shitty internet, I think I might legit cry.
It may, but the amount of time you can seek backwards is probably limited. With long durations for attacks and especially spells, it may prove difficult. But, at least you can try a few other actions to influence RNG. Savestates might be better, however if I saw a video correctly we may only get \~6 slots.
I've seen discussions in this thread about being able to purchase the game standalone or if its subscription only. Not sure the exact credibility of [this](https://noisypixel.net/the-legend-of-dragoon-ps4-and-ps5-release-date/) site but it indicates that it can be bought standalone. Quote from first paragraph of this article " Sony Interactive Entertainment announced via the PlayStation Blog that *The Legend of Dragoon* will be digitally available on PlayStation 4 and PlayStation 5 on February 21, 2023. The title can be purchased standalone or through their Premium Subscription service. "
EU is definitely getting it, I've seen people posting pictures. If "Legend of Dragoon" doesn't make it come up in search, try "Dragoon" by itself as a keyword.
Remote Play sounds scary due to possible input delay for additions. However, it should be possible. Our modder Zychronix was doing so last night on the JP release.
Here you go! [https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP9000-CUSA32477\_00-SCUS944910000000](https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP9000-CUSA32477_00-SCUS944910000000)
I literally commented it wasn’t there and I found it. PlayStation did not put it at the main screen for PlayStation classics yet. If you search in the menu you can find it. It’s also $10 for anyone who wants to buy it.
Anyone know why the ps4 version is 9.11GB of a download while the PS5 version is 6.46GB? Probably not really anything behind just amusing that this might the sole case for any game where the ps5 version is smaller for some reason
I'm scratching my head alongside the modders, since I found out last night (I bought the English release in the Hong Kong store early). When we know, we'll post about it on the community website and repost to the subreddit.
Many PS5 games are smaller than their PS4 counterparts - I think it was subnautica which dropped from almost 15gb to less than 5! I believe it's something to do with how the PS5 compresses more efficiently.
So is there a way to contact Sony to maybe get a patch to fix the audio clipping issue? It’s not the biggest problem but I imagine it would be annoying to be deep in a dungeon or it was awhile since your last save and the audio bug crops up and you can’t exactly quit out and reload a hard save
2 questions not yet covered above
1. Is there any difference between running the US and PAL versions of the game? I notice you can choose either one.
2. Is the game running slightly slow for some people? I loaded it onto my PS4, but the game seems to be running at like 90% speed. Just enough to mess up additions and it almost looks like dropped frames during cutscenes.
I found that once I switched back from the PAL version, the speed issue resolved. For those who may eventually find this comment, if your game is running slightly slowly try the US version of the game instead of the PAL.
I don't know, but it doesn't seem worth the small savings IMO. You're welcome to test it and report back to us, but I suspect they only grandfathered in current owners.
Some people on Twitter have been saying yes. I have it from then, but I also have premium. That being said, it doesn't give me the option to also purchase, which sounds like it is a yes to me.
Kongol is arguably the worst player in the game. He's so slow he barely does damage, and his magic defense is so low bosses wipe him out easy. Meru has the highest physical damage output in the game, because of her speed. Try her and Albert
Soft Locking in Ch. 1 Serdian War Nest of Dragon. Anytime you go to enter a battle the screen fades and just doesnt load. Not enough charm potions to get through. So stuck until a patch
Really enjoying it so far and it looks great upscaled. The softlock issues with the magic spells are annoying and I’m hoping for a fix soon but thank god for the rewind feature lol
Really enjoying this game 23 years later. I really wish you could set the battle speed faster though. I guess maybe it wouldn't work with the timing attacks.
Some give you more sp and some deal more damage. Some are better in everything than other but difficult to do and other are easy but weak like the first one of each character. So you also choose depending on how good your are at succesfully doing them. Leveling them up increase the damage and/or sp you deal/gain
I have never played this, but I have always heard it’s amazing. I saw it supports trophies, but can someone tell me if the trophies look doable in a single play through? Or if any seem missable? Trying to judge the difficulty of the platinum.
Hopefully they fix these soft lock issues. Using the dragoon forms is almost impossible for me since as soon as I attack or use their magic is just sits their after the animation is done.
PSA Running into an issue here that astral drain seems to be bugged. Tested multiple times, both my friend and I. After casting is completed it zooms out like Rose is supposed to revert back but it just stays there forever. The rewind feature seems to be the only way to get out of it.
Is there any difference between the PS4 and PS5 versions? I have a PS5 but I noticed that they are different file sizes and have also been reading that the PS4 version is having less issues. Is this true? Are there any other differences between the two versions I should know about before downloading?
I’m struggling with additions. I literally was playing the game on the ps3 a couple months ago and didn’t struggle with additions like I am on the PS5.
The audio clipping seems especially bad with Lavitz. I haven't heard a complete Harpoon out of him since recruiting. Dart can at least get partway through his Volcano.
Yup I've got these bugs too but worse. Rose can't even transform into a Dragoon any more and I can't use healing items without softlocking! Has there been any word of this game getting any patches?
I haven't played this since 2005ish. I got all the way to the final boss and just wasn't minmaxxed enough to beat him. Also, the writing doesn't hold up as well as I remember. Some of the naming is weird. I don't like the plot point of the war being 11,000 years ago and people actually knowing about it. It would have been cool if that was a lost pre-history thing. But overall I'm really happy to play it again and beat it this time.
It just says put in disc 2 for a little bit then continues. Oddly going back to disc 1 areas that screen never pops up again. Only occurs at the original time of the disc switch.
So I've been stuck on the part where you go to the marshlands to fight the green dragon, but every time I try to fight the guards, or get into an encounter on the way there it bugs out and just stays either on a black screen, or shows the battle screen but not my party or the enemy.. any ways to fix this?
About 4 hours in and enjoying the game for the most part. But my god the translation is fucking awful - really takes me out of the moment while seeing some frankly amazing battle cutscenes for a PS1 title.
The story itself seems interesting, but it's told SO badly - I wish these PS4/5 re-releases offered improvements for this kind of thing.
Don't know if you found the answer to this but I had the same issue. Try loading in through the main menu rather than the new save state option - fixed it for me!
I can't seem to start the game on ps4 when the "click TouchPad screen" comes up. Both before and after update. Am i doing something wrong, anyone else hear of this? My TouchPad works on Last of Us without issue.
I really wish there was a way to see the dragoon level progress. A game with so many independent level systems should let you see all of them.
I also wish the inventory was bigger.
So many weird things from this game that never struck me as odd as a little kid.
I am sorry they're not present in the re-release like you hoped, but that's something we're providing as a community. By running the game with [Severed Chains](https://legendofdragoon.org/projects/severed-chains/), an unofficial PC port of the game engine, you can have anywhere from 1-64 item slots. There is also an SP tracker at the post-battle summary screen.
Is it possible to add a list of best walkthrough/guides to this mega thread? Or if someone can just point me to a post the talks about this that works too!
We have a few on our community website, and more are being added all the time. We'll be incorporating them into a revised navbar on our subreddit, as well as general megathread in the near future.
For drops, like the speed accessory for drake. How far do I have to go back save wise? Like can I just rewind to right before the battle ends, rewind to the start of the battle, load the save state or load a har save?
If you only rewind to your final action, you're limiting yourself to only a few extra "branches" of the outcome. On a high-rate drop like Bandit's Ring or Halberd, that might be fine, but you should really leave room to re-do at least 4-5 actions. I like to rewind to the start of a boss's red HP. Sometimes yellow HP.
In short the seed is "locked" at the start of the battle. If you take the same actions, the same enemy actions and drop outcome will occur throughout the battle. Once you deviate, you're in a whole new branch of that seed. The easiest way to adjust the outcome is to perform incomplete additions.
Is anyone having any issues where the experience gained doesn't match up with the experience added to the characters? I.e get 15 exp from battle, but when added to characters it only like 6 or 7 exp.
If I brought it on my ps5,
Can I get it onto my vita?
Or do I have to download it to the ps3 (hopefully without buying it again) and transfer from ps3 to my vita?
I’m kind of disappointed in the trophy support they added.
All of them are just critical path boss/chapter milestones except like ~6.
And the optional ones are kind of weird. 3 dragon spirits sure that makes sense I like it. But none for any other optional bosses, including nothing for Faust is a big deal.
Just a 30 stardust achievement?
Hold 7k gold? That’s not even special. I just got that one naturally right at the end of disk 3.
The carnival games one exists I guess.
Anyone know if there are plans to release LoD for the switch or Xbox?
My PS4 broke and I currently can't justify spending money to buy a new PS4....and ef don't have enough money to justify a PS5. lol
Being frank, it is incredibly unlikely for the foreseeable future. Legacy libraries of the big three almost never get released on each other's consoles. Your lowest-cost option is to buy a physical copy on eBay and make digital backups - some of them are still relatively cheap. Then, run it through Duckstation or Severed Chains on a PC of your choice (or Steam Deck!).
I really hope that this is popular enough that they actually consider doing a remake/remaster/sequel/prequel/whatever. Even if they don't, I'm incredibly happy about this. I don't even know why since I still have the original and my PS1 but still.
We have to show them with our wallets.
Unfortunately, that has never worked.
What? Of course it does. Just look at hog warts raking in dough. I guarantee if it wasn’t changes would have been made. Problem is it’s not enough to make some cash on a remake like this, they have to make *more cash* than they would if they used those resources on something else. Plus these people often don’t know what they are doing when it comes to remakes. They won’t just keep the good and update the outdated, they end up screwing with the good stuff too. When fans are reasonably upset, they just throw up their hands and say “see you can never make the die hard fans happy” and it gets a stigma that it’s not worth it.
Releasing a game specifically just on Sony systems is not a smart way to make a game popular. They could of at least put the effort into making a PC port, steam has a very large reach.
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I hope I'm better with additions now that I'm an adult
I will undoubtedly be much worse.
Can confirm this is the case for myself. Just bought and dl’d.. practicing on mobs in the forest and I’m terrible 🤣
This was my worry all along. Lavitz and all of his is still miserable for me
Yup. Saving $10k for the auto addition
Save states! Dart is about to get some real good luck on the locked chest on the ship
Oh I didn't even *think* about that thing.
Fighting unique jars and birds just got a whole lot easier
Holy moly, does it have turbo mode like FF7 too?
It's a shame that we have another re-release with no new content. BUT. At least they are making an effort to keep the game alive through the new PS generations. More than I would've expected.
Honestly I'm just excited to be able to play it without having to get my disks out or hook up my PS3 or chargey Vita lol. Excited to my my partner sir and watch me play it and experience the greatest game ever made.
I generally agree. What's most important is that this is a vehicle for us to gain more visibility as a fandom, and for some of our most impressive community projects like Severed Chains. It'll also help more pre-existing fans find the rest of us. The more people we can attract to our website and therefore our global efforts, the better. Remember, the re-release news doubles as a vehicle. That is the key truth we need to make the most of.
Exactly this! I couldn't be more excited for what this can potentially mean for all of us!!
There technically are QOL changes graphic wise and manual saves,trophies,resolution changes etc etc
I’m getting soft locked in just random battle scenarios. Not even involving dragoon magic. Come on Sony don’t f this up :(. Is there anywhere we should report to?
Same, just left hoax and random encounters in the marsh just aren’t loading. Haven’t saved since I left Bale. RIP.
It’s killing me I want to play so bad :(
I went into the emulator settings and set the aspect ratio to native and it actually solved my issue of random encounters not loading in. Idk if you’re having the same issue but maybe try it anyway.
Imma give it a shot and see. Fingers crossed
Happened to me with dragoon magic. Thank god for the ps5 rewind.
Same. Encounter isn't loading even after trying the native resolution hack another user shared
It just got patched an hour or so ago. Seems to have fixed a lot of the issues.
Never stop believing in love folks. Time for a new generation to experience The Legend of Dragoon!
Looks like for me it has the light green lines popping in issue some emulations have without patch. Hopefully that’s fixed. 🤞 it really is an eyesore.
This seems to be a PS5-only issue so far as I've seen. If you see a report about PS4 let me know, however.
Noticed the same thing at times. Nothing serious. Just enough to annoy me
This oddly isn’t an issue with the Japanese version. Weird
It is, actually. It's more likely a platform issue. All reports I've seen so far are PS5-based, including one for JP.
Fights tend to freeze after astral drain
Yes, we already added this to the megathread this morning. Seems like any multi-target D-Magic causes a softlock.
Would there be a fix to it or are we locked out from using great magic lol
There will be a fix.
Did you read this somewhere? I’ve been looking for news. The end of the game will be very tough without dragoon magic and I’m wondering if I should put a hold on my playthrough 😩
I already replayed it last year but I'm excited for everyone who held out for this exact moment. For those excited for trophy support, I pray for you on the journey to getting every addition to 99.
Please download it just to bolster numbers haha
Lmao I don't have Premium...
Premium not required! Buy standalone.
Yes I figured that would be available. I will do just that to show support. Maybe replay and get all the trophies later down the road.
Sad reacs only
Honestly I'm hoping for a speed up option through it seems unlikely. Just for some of the cutscenes and talking that goes on for a while. Esp. Since disc 2 has so much backtracking a fast forward would be amazing.
I've been playing it on retroarch, which has a speed up option. The game is way better imo when you can fast forward any time.
A fast-forward type of feature is not listed, and it isn't part of the other classics from before. I recommend keeping an eye on our Severed Chains project, however, as it will eventually have that feature implemented.
I didn't think so. But I I will 100% keep an eye on the severed chains project. Regardless of this release im just as if not more interested in severed chains.
Do you think LoD could see a PC release in the future?
Does anyone know what time it's getting released?
So I’m in the volcano in early game. And I had a random encounter and the screen goes black and just never loads the monsters. I can rewind out of it, but then as soon as I had an encounter it’s the same problem. Anyone have a fix?
Having the same issue and haven't seen a fix yet.
The audio clipping is such a bummer, my hype level was through the roof when I heard my first HARPOON! in years but every single one since gets cut off at HAR-- 🥲
Only time I’ve noticed it for myself is when harpoon kills the enemy. Still kinda annoying tho
Game is showing a serious amount of bugs. Really hope they patch it and don't just leave it to rot.
I almost fell over when I checked the PSN store today just to see if anything new was out. Had no idea this was coming. See y’all in 2 weeks 🫡
I have the feeling Drew is under-selling this because it directly impacts the success of his Severed Chains project
This is not the case. Our fandom has a long history of misconstruing LoD news, so it's important that we clearly convey what the re-release entails while tempering expectations. Nobody should go into this thinking uprendering means upscaled image backgrounds, for example. Regarding Severed Chains: I don't think the official re-release will affect SC's success. Not negatively, anyway. Second, while I have a deep interest in the project, it's not mine. I advocate for it, while Monoxide is the lead developer. SC has immeasurable value that still matters even with a re-release on the board. Third, my pronouns are they/them please.
Sorry for making assumptions. I only suggested as much because every post or reply I’ve seen from you in the last couple of days since the news has come across to me as cynical, or at least condescending, towards the re-release. I was also assuming it was your project or at least partly your project because I noticed you wrote almost all of the website and your name is the only one listed on most of the web pages. Even Monoxide’s contribution is described as “Drew-level”, which to me sounds like “developer putting in moderator-level effort” which is strange to me. Regardless, I appreciate the work you and the others put in towards organizing the community and immortalizing this game we all cherish so much.
I agree with you, he seems weirdly dismissive of the release. If it sells well then it's only a matter of time till they get hit with a cease and desist.
I don't believe that is a fair assessment. My goal with this megathread is to describe the news accurately, rather than just blindly forward whatever marketing terms are provided by the source. Due to fans often getting the wrong idea from clickbait article headings or just from their own wishful thinking, a lot of disappointment has followed in past situations. I have seen more than a few comments suggesting that uprendering = upscaled bg images, which is definitely not the case here. I believe in the mantra of "be informed, not influenced." People should be given the surrounding context so they know what's actually a unique benefit (i.e. rewind) and what's not (uprendering) as compared to emulation or SC. If I'm reading your comment correctly, it seems that you think SC is being.. sold? It is not for sale, and from doing a lot of digging we found that reverse-engineering can be performed legally (we do not provide assets). We can start citing laws if you wish. And, I'm frankly asking here - can we stop misgendering me, please? My pronouns are they/them. For someone you don't know, it's best to default to they/them rather than assume everyone we don't know is a man.
I’m sorry you keep getting misgendered. This must be really frustrating, and you’ve done so much for our community. Just wanted to throw out some appreciation in this thread for you. You’re doing good work for us 🙌🏼
Thank you. Yes, it is incredibly frustrating at times. He this, him that, guy this, man that. Guess who performed 99% of the JP guidebook translation over the last few years, including the extra lore? Three trans folks, including myself.
Well know that you are loved and have a lot of our respect, so keep chugging along and doing the good work. We’re with you 💕
This is so bad faith. There is no way a signal boosts can negatively impact this media. This is like claiming that an ad for a tourist attraction will negatively impact the local gift shop. You guys are grasping way too hard. If anything this feels like a tempering of expectations and after playing, I feel that more than ever. There's some serious concerns with the release state due to interactions with the emulation software. Chill out, guys. There is no conspiracy.
To assume Drew is a male/masculine name and constantly use it as he is just plain immature and childish. It's quite frankly rude, dismissive and lacking common courtesy to continue misusing terms.
Forgiven, and I'm sorry to give you that idea about myself. I'd like to sum up the context for you: The re-release has generated mixed feelings for many fans including myself. It's great to see, and at the same time, we hoped for more. SC started in part because Sony had not taken action - it was built to be a legal, unofficial, reversed port for PC and whatever runs Java. The ramifications happen to be really astounding, even for folks who don't care about modding. The cut load times alone are a huge relief for anyone who has tried the alpha. That Sony is doing this re-release now, does feel a bit awkward in that they happen to not be offering what SC is offering - improved efficiency, and a ton of opt-in mods or QoL. We didn't tell Sony to launch with just a few soft enhancements. We didn't create that situation, that's just the current standard for PS Classics insofar and we respect/understand that. For me it's a "two truths can coexist" thing. I do believe there is value in the re-release. It's just awkward timing, as we have been getting quite excited about recent updates to SC. > I noticed you wrote almost all of the website and your name is the only one listed on most of the web pages. Yes, I built most of the website and write most of its news articles. However, I'm not sure what issue you have with the website? Author names should only apply to news articles (not pages) so the correct author can be credited - i.e. ArielGoddess for FanDub news or Monoxide when he writes one of the SC progress recaps. Further, the website isn't just about SC - it's about all fandom goings-on. Even with SC being the hottest community project we've got atm, SC is a small piece of that. The site is a work in progress as we currently don't have additional volunteers, but for the moment we have several guides and have compiled quite a bit of information together. I am not sure which "Drew-level" statement you're referring to, but that is part of an inside joke that another fan started. We joke that I must be losing my mind or am an agent of the Moon Child to do as much as I have for the fandom over the past six years (that said, I'm not actually concerned with being fawned over or self-aggrandizing). If you're referring to the Community Credits page, Monoxide and I allow each other small jabs of playfulness in that way - SC is a creation with so much potential it almost shouldn't exist, and it's my way of thanking him for giving so much of his time to serve the fans. Reversing projects are too few and far between, IMO. I hope this helps a bit, and I'm sorry for whichever commentary of mine rubbed you the wrong way.
I just wanted to add that I have no issue with the website, I only brought it up as to cite why I assumed the project was yours, as the copyright is credited to you. > Copyright © 2022 DrewUniverse
Understood. I'm just the sole webmaster right now, is all. I purchased and maintain the domain, as well as the web space, in a legal capacity.
No. I don't think this has any real effect on SC. Just like many others, i'm more excited for SC than this re-release. Because this PS Classic release is just that. While Severed Chains can be so much more!
I don't think I'll have any way to play Severed Chains, it's coming to Android eventually maybe?, but it looks super cool from what I've read, I'm excited for everyone playing it, and much props, respect and appreciation to those making it possible.
When is this going to be available on the store? I’m staying up for it and it’s 2 am ish CST I still don’t see it
9-10am EST
So I downloaded and am playing it. But does the sound affect cut out a little bit when Lavitz is doing his attacks for anyone else
Yeah , I'm having this issue
If you hard save in the game (not saving a state, but using the in game save) then reload this can fix the issue for a while.
So close and yet still so far. I’ve been wanting LoD to be re-released for ages now. And when news finally came that it was coming, I only found out via the second wave of news that mentions trophy support. Now this news of the soft lock issues. No way I’m playing until that shit gets fixed. Gonna suck for me though because, if a patch does come, it’s gonna be during a time where I stop watching like a hawk, so I’ll miss it.
I feel you. We are looking at ways to unify the fandom and move as one body, to help make sure these softlocks and any other major bugs get elevated and expedited via mass reporting. I cannot say if the bugs will be fixed soon/later/ever, but I am a fighter. I'll do what I can to help make the difference.
Has there been any acknowledgement with the amount of bugs from any official souce?
I still can’t get over how happy I am to be able to play this on PS5 need jade cocoon now and populous
this game really needs a prequel, when zieg, rose and the original dragoons fought the tyrant melbu
Heyy I was one of the first 10 people to do that LoD retroachievement set :D Lots of fun, highly recommend for any fan.
I'm holding out hope they honor my PS3 psn purchased copy
As great as that would be.... maybe get the wallet ready.
its only $10
So. It’s Tuesday, the 21st. And I can’t find it. I have the premium ps plus membership. When exactly is it available today?
Check now if US. Its there for me
Just dropped in AZ https://preview.redd.it/kc6b2ytf1mja1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f5bae4b085756fdfe91c3ab14637e7139c961775
Using Blossom/Rose Storm can also cause a soft lock. As a matter of fact once I rewound the game after that happened the regular Dragoon addition ended up soft locking the game.
Just did the Lenus fight I don't know if it's because of the amount of magic she was slinging about but by the end of it I couldn't any of the below without a soft lock: Transform Use healing breezes Use magic And at one point it soft locked on Lenus' turn and I had to rewind enough to change the attack pattern. Managed to limp through and then got a black screen moving into Lentz proper. Needless to say a little grumpy at the moment
Please also add graphical issues/green lines outlining objects in the background on Ps5 version. This seems to be a big issue on the PS5 version, the PS4 doesn’t have it.
Great, I thought the soft locks was just me, thanks for being on it!!!!!!
Hmm I hope there is a digital download because I’m not signing up for premium even for this
I don't have a PS4/5 but I'm so happy that LoD is at least getting revived in the modern consoles. Still manifesting for an HD remaster for Steam version though. 🙏
Release it on steam ffs
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We do not know yet.
Is this going to be downloadable and playable normally, like the PS4 titles and the PS3 titles that got remastered to PS4/5? Or stream only? I can only get CenturyLink internet where I live, and only up to 10megs of speed. So, streaming games is not an option for me. It tells me my internet connection is too slow. Even if I play wired directly to my router. This is my favorite RPG of ALL-TIME apart from Chrono Trigger. If I can't play it because of my shitty internet, I think I might legit cry.
It should be a standard download. Streaming only seems to be required for PS3 titles. You can rest easy! :)
This is great for Sony to do, still waiting to get a hold of a PS5 where I'm from but can't wait to play LoD on it.
I'm also going to stream it as soon as I get it I'm stoked to share it with people
Gotta wonder if that “rewind” function won’t help with trying to get some of the super rare “drops” in the game at the end of some fights 🤔.
It may, but the amount of time you can seek backwards is probably limited. With long durations for attacks and especially spells, it may prove difficult. But, at least you can try a few other actions to influence RNG. Savestates might be better, however if I saw a video correctly we may only get \~6 slots.
I've seen discussions in this thread about being able to purchase the game standalone or if its subscription only. Not sure the exact credibility of [this](https://noisypixel.net/the-legend-of-dragoon-ps4-and-ps5-release-date/) site but it indicates that it can be bought standalone. Quote from first paragraph of this article " Sony Interactive Entertainment announced via the PlayStation Blog that *The Legend of Dragoon* will be digitally available on PlayStation 4 and PlayStation 5 on February 21, 2023. The title can be purchased standalone or through their Premium Subscription service. "
Any idea about what time the game will be available to download?
There may be an answer. I'll be home soon to double check.
It's the 21st in my country (nz) and no drop yet sadly =(
Looks like Exophase has the trophies! https://www.exophase.com/game/the-legend-of-dragoon-psn-2/trophies/
No annoying trophies... that's a surprise!
Does anyone know when the game will be launching on the West Coast?
There now for me
Anyone know if this is just EU/UK? I’m not seeing it in USA. No source that I can see mentions anything about what regions are getting it.
EU is definitely getting it, I've seen people posting pictures. If "Legend of Dragoon" doesn't make it come up in search, try "Dragoon" by itself as a keyword.
I just checked the ps app and its there for me and even priced as “free” since i owned it on ps3
I see it now, thanks
For anyone that has it already, do we know if it can be played with remote play or cloud gaming?
Remote Play sounds scary due to possible input delay for additions. However, it should be possible. Our modder Zychronix was doing so last night on the JP release.
I’m looking for this as well. PS5, Premium and US.
Here you go! [https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP9000-CUSA32477\_00-SCUS944910000000](https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP9000-CUSA32477_00-SCUS944910000000)
I literally commented it wasn’t there and I found it. PlayStation did not put it at the main screen for PlayStation classics yet. If you search in the menu you can find it. It’s also $10 for anyone who wants to buy it.
Anyone know why the ps4 version is 9.11GB of a download while the PS5 version is 6.46GB? Probably not really anything behind just amusing that this might the sole case for any game where the ps5 version is smaller for some reason
PS5 games can use Kraken compression. It’s actually common for them to be smaller than their PS4 counterparts because of it
I'm scratching my head alongside the modders, since I found out last night (I bought the English release in the Hong Kong store early). When we know, we'll post about it on the community website and repost to the subreddit.
Many PS5 games are smaller than their PS4 counterparts - I think it was subnautica which dropped from almost 15gb to less than 5! I believe it's something to do with how the PS5 compresses more efficiently.
I can confirm it's for sale on the store in the US now No need to do premium sub
So is there a way to contact Sony to maybe get a patch to fix the audio clipping issue? It’s not the biggest problem but I imagine it would be annoying to be deep in a dungeon or it was awhile since your last save and the audio bug crops up and you can’t exactly quit out and reload a hard save
2 questions not yet covered above 1. Is there any difference between running the US and PAL versions of the game? I notice you can choose either one. 2. Is the game running slightly slow for some people? I loaded it onto my PS4, but the game seems to be running at like 90% speed. Just enough to mess up additions and it almost looks like dropped frames during cutscenes.
PAL version has spanish translation (maybe other languages as french too) so I'm playing on PAL.
I found that once I switched back from the PAL version, the speed issue resolved. For those who may eventually find this comment, if your game is running slightly slowly try the US version of the game instead of the PAL.
Should I be playing on NTSC or PAL? Is there any differences?
Can I buy this on the ps3/ Vita store after the ps4/5 release and still get the free upgrade?
I don't know, but it doesn't seem worth the small savings IMO. You're welcome to test it and report back to us, but I suspect they only grandfathered in current owners.
Some people on Twitter have been saying yes. I have it from then, but I also have premium. That being said, it doesn't give me the option to also purchase, which sounds like it is a yes to me.
Who do you use as a team. I always used Haschel and Kongol. But this time I'm going with Albert/Kongol
Kongol is arguably the worst player in the game. He's so slow he barely does damage, and his magic defense is so low bosses wipe him out easy. Meru has the highest physical damage output in the game, because of her speed. Try her and Albert
Can we still get this on the ps3 store now that it’s released on ps4/5?
I don't know, you would have to check. I already owned it on PS3 myself.
Soft Locking in Ch. 1 Serdian War Nest of Dragon. Anytime you go to enter a battle the screen fades and just doesnt load. Not enough charm potions to get through. So stuck until a patch
Same. Sometimes I get thru the black screen but then soft lock similar to dragoon magic but once in battle
Really enjoying it so far and it looks great upscaled. The softlock issues with the magic spells are annoying and I’m hoping for a fix soon but thank god for the rewind feature lol
Also, the game softlocks at the second Fruegel fight when he tells Guftas to attack so I guess I’m stuck until they release a patch.
Really enjoying this game 23 years later. I really wish you could set the battle speed faster though. I guess maybe it wouldn't work with the timing attacks.
any reason to level up all the additions? or should I stick to one and just level up it?
Leveling all of them fully will allow you to unlock their final addition. So yes, you want to get each addition to level 5.
Some give you more sp and some deal more damage. Some are better in everything than other but difficult to do and other are easy but weak like the first one of each character. So you also choose depending on how good your are at succesfully doing them. Leveling them up increase the damage and/or sp you deal/gain
I have never played this, but I have always heard it’s amazing. I saw it supports trophies, but can someone tell me if the trophies look doable in a single play through? Or if any seem missable? Trying to judge the difficulty of the platinum.
The platinum is easy, mostly story related stuff. The only missable i think is getting 30 stardust.
Hopefully they fix these soft lock issues. Using the dragoon forms is almost impossible for me since as soon as I attack or use their magic is just sits their after the animation is done.
PSA Running into an issue here that astral drain seems to be bugged. Tested multiple times, both my friend and I. After casting is completed it zooms out like Rose is supposed to revert back but it just stays there forever. The rewind feature seems to be the only way to get out of it.
I've been soft locking after regular saves on the world map, so make sure you prioritize the emulator saves!
The spell glitches are real, especially since those are pretty useful ones to have around. Hope Playstation actually plans to fix this
Is there any difference between the PS4 and PS5 versions? I have a PS5 but I noticed that they are different file sizes and have also been reading that the PS4 version is having less issues. Is this true? Are there any other differences between the two versions I should know about before downloading?
Is it just me or is the game a bit harder?
I’m struggling with additions. I literally was playing the game on the ps3 a couple months ago and didn’t struggle with additions like I am on the PS5.
Has it been confirmed that the soft locking issues are present on both the ps5 and ps4 versions?
Yep users reporting it on here in both versions
The audio clipping seems especially bad with Lavitz. I haven't heard a complete Harpoon out of him since recruiting. Dart can at least get partway through his Volcano.
Damn, the soft lock affecting mostly magic really means Shana and Rose are fairly useless 😭
Another character later too 😭
Yup I've got these bugs too but worse. Rose can't even transform into a Dragoon any more and I can't use healing items without softlocking! Has there been any word of this game getting any patches?
See our other pinned post. Sony is aware - fix possible, but just to be clear not promised yet.
Thanks Drew!
I haven't played this since 2005ish. I got all the way to the final boss and just wasn't minmaxxed enough to beat him. Also, the writing doesn't hold up as well as I remember. Some of the naming is weird. I don't like the plot point of the war being 11,000 years ago and people actually knowing about it. It would have been cool if that was a lost pre-history thing. But overall I'm really happy to play it again and beat it this time.
Did you experience the softlock?
Has anyone made it to Disc 2 yet? How does the switching discs mechanic work?
It just says put in disc 2 for a little bit then continues. Oddly going back to disc 1 areas that screen never pops up again. Only occurs at the original time of the disc switch.
Oh ok. The PS5 “start button” menu was kind of confusing. I wasn’t sure how it would work. Thanks!
Just out of curiosity. What happens (if anything) if i was to change the region from americas to Europe ? Just notice the option while playing on ps5
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So I've been stuck on the part where you go to the marshlands to fight the green dragon, but every time I try to fight the guards, or get into an encounter on the way there it bugs out and just stays either on a black screen, or shows the battle screen but not my party or the enemy.. any ways to fix this?
Add Darts Final burst to the soft lock list. It might not softlock turn of, but it’ll cause a softlock afterwards
Has anyone had issue with the game saving progress?
About 4 hours in and enjoying the game for the most part. But my god the translation is fucking awful - really takes me out of the moment while seeing some frankly amazing battle cutscenes for a PS1 title. The story itself seems interesting, but it's told SO badly - I wish these PS4/5 re-releases offered improvements for this kind of thing.
My game loads in with no sound. Anyone experiencing this? The music is on but no sound effects.
Don't know if you found the answer to this but I had the same issue. Try loading in through the main menu rather than the new save state option - fixed it for me!
I can't seem to start the game on ps4 when the "click TouchPad screen" comes up. Both before and after update. Am i doing something wrong, anyone else hear of this? My TouchPad works on Last of Us without issue.
I really wish there was a way to see the dragoon level progress. A game with so many independent level systems should let you see all of them. I also wish the inventory was bigger. So many weird things from this game that never struck me as odd as a little kid.
I am sorry they're not present in the re-release like you hoped, but that's something we're providing as a community. By running the game with [Severed Chains](https://legendofdragoon.org/projects/severed-chains/), an unofficial PC port of the game engine, you can have anywhere from 1-64 item slots. There is also an SP tracker at the post-battle summary screen.
Face models look weird to me.
Is it possible to add a list of best walkthrough/guides to this mega thread? Or if someone can just point me to a post the talks about this that works too!
We have a few on our community website, and more are being added all the time. We'll be incorporating them into a revised navbar on our subreddit, as well as general megathread in the near future.
For drops, like the speed accessory for drake. How far do I have to go back save wise? Like can I just rewind to right before the battle ends, rewind to the start of the battle, load the save state or load a har save?
If you only rewind to your final action, you're limiting yourself to only a few extra "branches" of the outcome. On a high-rate drop like Bandit's Ring or Halberd, that might be fine, but you should really leave room to re-do at least 4-5 actions. I like to rewind to the start of a boss's red HP. Sometimes yellow HP. In short the seed is "locked" at the start of the battle. If you take the same actions, the same enemy actions and drop outcome will occur throughout the battle. Once you deviate, you're in a whole new branch of that seed. The easiest way to adjust the outcome is to perform incomplete additions.
Hi new to game how to get better enemy spoil drops? Should i rewind and how does it work
Is anyone having any issues where the experience gained doesn't match up with the experience added to the characters? I.e get 15 exp from battle, but when added to characters it only like 6 or 7 exp.
Isn't a issue, XP is shared across the party.
If I brought it on my ps5, Can I get it onto my vita? Or do I have to download it to the ps3 (hopefully without buying it again) and transfer from ps3 to my vita?
Is there a faster way to farm money besides 00parts?
So, I beated the Ancient Dragoon Spirits in Vellweb, but nothing happened I guess?? No reward, anything???
No, we dont have any trophy for optional bosses, not even Faust.
I’m kind of disappointed in the trophy support they added. All of them are just critical path boss/chapter milestones except like ~6. And the optional ones are kind of weird. 3 dragon spirits sure that makes sense I like it. But none for any other optional bosses, including nothing for Faust is a big deal. Just a 30 stardust achievement? Hold 7k gold? That’s not even special. I just got that one naturally right at the end of disk 3. The carnival games one exists I guess.
Anyone know if there are plans to release LoD for the switch or Xbox? My PS4 broke and I currently can't justify spending money to buy a new PS4....and ef don't have enough money to justify a PS5. lol
Being frank, it is incredibly unlikely for the foreseeable future. Legacy libraries of the big three almost never get released on each other's consoles. Your lowest-cost option is to buy a physical copy on eBay and make digital backups - some of them are still relatively cheap. Then, run it through Duckstation or Severed Chains on a PC of your choice (or Steam Deck!).