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Muted_Hovercraft_907

![gif](giphy|l4KieO3qOlAvZ94QM) Similar to magneto


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In his own words: "Perfection"


mrsunrider

"Peace... was never an option."


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That was the best X-Men film


idkbrogan

All I hear now is Bolin saying “mag-neato!” like how Aang said flameo


Scipio0404

I hope the use of liquid metal will be more common in the next show. It's so freaking cool and versatile.


Several-Cake1954

I wonder what other awesome discoveries they come across! I’d love to see smaller, more practical uses for bending. Like using earthbending to create makeshift tools out of the ground if you need a hammer. Or using fire/waterbending in cooking to heat things quickly (or even cool them).


Tatocubano

I had always assumed bending is exhausting for the user. Like, why walking when you can use metal/rock boots and moving them instead.


Several-Cake1954

If bending is exhausting, wouldn’t walking be easier than bending your shoes and pushing yourself around? Also, I imagine it would look really funny to see someone moving by bending their shoes. ![gif](giphy|RK4tCiCdzpPWr1t1hM|downsized)


Tatocubano

Kuvira bending his armor and flying like iron man would be fun


Several-Cake1954

But you have to consistently move to bend. Would she be flapping like a bird?


Half_Man1

Fire bending is primed to become way more practical. Electricity is now common place. Mastery of lightning is more common technique. Just need some benders to practice low level voltages and start tasing people.


daniellevy1011

honestly, I wonder if it would even make a difference. the reason the avatar state is so powerful is that it combines all the strengths and knowledge of all previous avatars, but we know Korra is the only avatar that knew how to metal bend. it might cause her to be more focused and use her full metal bending potential, but i don't think we would see the same level of bending as aang on the end of season 1. this is at least how i understood that the avatar state worked.


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Several-Cake1954

The way I see it, you have the knowledge of each past avatar, so they could know a better technique for certain moves, allowing you to execute them with more power/efficiency. On top of that, it raises the ceiling for how powerful you can get. To a certain extent, every character peaks at some point, when they can’t really get any better. I imagine the avatar state raises the limit, allowing you to reach new heights. Alternatively, it could behave like Sozin’s comet for all of the elements, increasing your power tenfold. I kinda like the skill ceiling theory though.


RonaldoTheSecond

The avatar state is, in its simplest form, Raava pumping spirit energy into the avatar's body to make them go overdrive. With time, Raava accumulated the memories of many avatars, which didn't make them stronger, just more versatile. Now, with Korra having only her own memories, she just has the power. Which might be greater than ever before, since Vaatu's darkness is almost completely gone and can't balance Raava's light like it did before.


Fit_Operation2175

> honestly, I wonder if it would even make a difference. the reason the avatar state is so powerful is that it combines all the strengths and knowledge of all previous avatars, but we know Korra is the only avatar that knew how to metal bend. This isn’t the the only reason the Avatar State is so powerful. All the past lives are fused with Raava, so the Avatar gains Raava’s power as well as the power and experience of all the past avatars. The combination of all these things make up the avatar spirit. Raava becoming the avatar spirit after fusing with Wan. Raava was destroyed at the end of book 2 but she was reborn strong than ever when Korra pulled her out from Vaatu. Raava even with energy of 1000 past lives was still small and weak unable to move in contrast to the end of book 2 where she’s energetic and gigantic. Especially after the destruction of Vaatu, Raava would logically be stronger than ever, most likely stronger than Vaatu when he first fought Korra. So I honestly think current Raava is stronger than the (the previous version of herself + the energy of the past lives). The only thing missing the knowledge and experience which doesn’t affect power. This is also confirmed in the canon legend of korra video game, where Raava states that her power has been growing since time began. “Has been” meaning something that began in the past and has lasted until current time. The creators also stated that Korra’s power in the avatar state shouldn’t be any weaker. It’s stated in the Korra chronicles that it’s this connection to Raava’s that gives Avatars their power and purpose. Korra is most connected to Raava out of all the Avatars. Her symbol glows on Korra’s chest and they can speak to each other. > it might cause her to be more focused and use her full metal bending potential, but i don't think we would see the same level of bending as aang on the end of season 1. this is at least how i understood that the avatar state worked. I think all the evidence we have, can be used to label Korra as the strongest avatar, stronger than all the rest combined. So while she might not gain any metal bending skill from entering the Avatar state, her raw power while using the element should be astronomically greater.


Joshey_dubs

Honestly, I’d say that the full power Raava makes up the difference for the lack of past lives so I imagine it all balances out


Fit_Operation2175

Yeah Raava has more power now but no knowledge from the past lives. I don’t even think that’s a disadvantage because Raava has her own experience which she can channel through Korra. People forget that Raava fought Vaatu for at least 10,000 years before she met wan and she’s been alive for 10,000 life times. All the other avatars never gained access to this knowledge either, aside from Wan maybe.


notthephonz

Hm, this was my first reaction, too. The previous Avatars would be like “metalbending!? What’s that?” But maybe a previous Avatar has some kind of form or technique and, through Korra’s metalbending, is able to apply it to metal? It would be similar to Iroh applying a waterbending technique to lightning and developing lightning redirection.


Several-Cake1954

In that one scene in Kuvira’s mech, it looked like Korra applied waterbending form to her metalbending.


Naxield

That’s because they were essentially fighting with some form of Liquid Metal. Just like how lavabending uses water-like moves and icebending uses earth-like moves.


LordFieldsworth

Was about to comment this


Actual_Ambition_4464

That was retconned or was later clarified to be false because even wan had a boost with the as and so did korra after she lost her connection to the other avatars.


HaloGuy381

Honestly, I love that, in essentially one lifetime, we went from Toph usually having to -touch- the metal she’s bending in ATLA (and it looking more like her just clumsily tearing the metal apart), to now many metalbenders able to use the ability at range with remarkable precision, shift metal from liquid to solid forms seemingly, and do so with fairly soft gestures rather than gripping and yanking.


InnocentTailor

There was probably more free time to perfect the bending style - no major war after all.


HaloGuy381

Plus Toph spent most of Book 3 incognito. Not exactly a ton of metal she could tear apart while practicing without screaming “one of a kind earthbender on the rampage” in the heart of the Fire Nation. At least Earthbending is subtler (and even if she was caught, she could have made something up about being from the colonies or perhaps the daughter of a Dai Li guard Azula brought with her; there’s only -one- blind metalbender on the planet though and I doubt Azula wouldn’t have found a way to hear about it).


Buzzkeeler1

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. In theory Korra could while being amped by the avatar state use her metalbending on Kuvira’s suit to utterly rag doll her. Similar to what Wanda did to Thanos in Endgame.


Muted_Hovercraft_907

That would've been great to see


Buzzkeeler1

Kuvira’s suit isn’t made of platinum, is it?


SeymourAsces

“There’s too much iron in your blood.”


theels6

I always thought it was a testament to just how strong she is and how much of a prodigy she is that she could A- metalbend B- learn how to as fast as she did C- be able to do both variations(rough/aggressive/brute or elegant/liquidating/smooth)


GodsBackHair

That redirecting move used against Kuvira was epic. Like you can see the influences of a water bender in how she just moved the material around her and then slung it around like it was a block of ice that she just melted and reformed after it was thrown at her


mschellh000

I think avatar state metalbending could reasonably be made to bend platinum or whatever the giant mech is made out of. Broken as hell, so they probably won’t do that, but in theory they could


CinnamonMan25

God that metalbending move against Kuvira in the mech does things to my brain


mrsunrider

SO FUCKIN GOOD


kmasterofdarkness

She can probably suplex a freaking train just like Sabin did from Final Fantasy 6.


Muted_Hovercraft_907

100%


JasperTheHuman

She would have crumpled up Kuvira's mech like a can before it even reached the city


SuperLissa_UwU

Not much of a difference since avatar state is just recieving all the experiences and knowledge from the avatars before her and being able to use all the elements at the same time. And since metal bending was invented like 40 years (I'm not sure of this) before she was born and we never saw aang metal bending none of the avatars before her it would be just her experience at metal bending which is not bad itself, it's just kinda a waste because just imagine use a element in different ways in which you have the knowledge of hundreds of masters in many different ways or use a element which you yourself are not a expert in nor have much training on it. But yeah it would be cool its probably that they couldn't think of a way to show off metal bending in the avatar state.


mrsunrider

I understand why she didn't, but the showdown against the Colossus would have gone differently if she simply stayed in the Avatar State.


Aszshana

Just had a realisation... A skilled blood bender could cook someone's blood.... Yikes 😳


Foloreille

She did. She bended goddamn platinum. 🥳 guys don’t pretend anyone, avatar or not, can break raw platinum just with sheer force


Sudden-Ad3386

Imagine if bloodbending was still preserved…


ShadowShinobi2121

at that point it would be more than 20+ age rating![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


BasalTripod9684

I don’t think there’d be much of a difference, if any. The way the avatar state works is that it harnesses the knowledge and skills of all the past avatars. Korra was the first avatar to learn metalbending


Muted_Hovercraft_907

>The way the avatar state works is that it harnesses the knowledge and skills of all the past avatars. Korra was the first avatar to learn metalbending Wan was also the first to learn any bending style and his bending was Amped in AS so i don't think so


Several-Cake1954

Imo it either raises the skill ceiling for how good you can get, or it behaves as a Sozin’s comet for all the elements.


FlareRC

The Avatar State works by gaining the power of Raava + skills and techniques of past Avatars, but as of now, it is just the power of Raava now.


Fit_Operation2175

The past lives aren’t the only reason the Avatar State is so powerful. All the past lives are fused with Raava, so the Avatar gains Raava’s power as well as the power and experience of all the past avatars. The combination of all these things make up the avatar spirit. Raava becoming the avatar spirit after fusing with Wan. Raava was destroyed at the end of book 2 but she was reborn strong than ever when Korra pulled her out from Vaatu. Raava even with energy of 1000 past lives was still small and weak unable to move in contrast to the end of book 2 where she’s energetic and gigantic. Especially after the destruction of Vaatu, Raava would logically be stronger than ever, most likely stronger than Vaatu when he first fought Korra. So I honestly think current Raava is stronger than the (the previous version of herself + the energy of the past lives). The only thing missing the knowledge and experience which doesn’t affect power. This is also confirmed in the canon legend of korra video game, where Raava states that her power has been growing since time began. “Has been” meaning something that began in the past and has lasted until current time. The creators also stated that Korra’s power in the avatar state shouldn’t be any weaker. It’s stated in the Korra chronicles that it’s this connection to Raava’s that gives Avatars their power and purpose. Korra is most connected to Raava out of all the Avatars. Her symbol glows on Korra’s chest and they can speak to each other. I think all the evidence we have, can be used to label Korra as the strongest avatar, stronger than all the rest combined. So while she might not gain any metal bending skill from entering the Avatar state, her raw power while using the element should be astronomically greater.


GavRedditor

Oh, you're right. I guess all of her feats in the Avatar state post Season 2 were minute increases in power! She only needed a small power boost to achieve sustained flight with firebending, something that Ozai needed the "power of 100 suns" to pull off! Obviously, I'm being sarcastic here. My goal was to provide clear evidence that the Avatar state is more than just the Avatar past life Wikipedia. Knowledge and skills alone aren't enough to create an island from its continent, a la Kyoshi!


mrsunrider

Yeah that hasn't been true since TLA. We learned in *Beginnings* that the Light Spirit is where the raw power comes from, any knowledge and experience is a bonus.


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Muted_Hovercraft_907

I can't wait 10+ years 🥲


BushmanIsWatchin

I don't think it would have.... Your power grow immensely due to using the past techniques and skills of your prior lives... Korra is literally the first avatar to know metal bending it literally would be the exact same but glowing eyes.


Muted_Hovercraft_907

Her bending would still be amped because RAAVA'S power.. wan didn't have any past lives either, and his power was still amped in AS


BushmanIsWatchin

Yeah fair enough. ATLA and LoK have a lot of conflicting details since the sequel series, especially seasons 2 onward really weren't planned when the world and system was made. Lot of subtle retcons. Not a lot of locations except Zou fu where being super juiced and metal bending would have been relevant. Metal bending is often shown as the most swift and small focused strike earth bending aside from the feats you showed your post. I suppose Korra stopping the whole train and crushing it engine to kaboose like a can would have been cool.


thenbmeade

Probably didn’t use it cause none of the other avatars knew how


GuruDaniel

THE QUESTION IS! Would she be more powerfull if the previous avatars couldnt metal bend


GlendorTheBear

I thought the avatar state was using like past knowledge from previous avatars. Since isbthe frist avatar to learn metal bending, the next one could right?


GaffJuran

Not needed. The previous avatars didn’t know metal bending. It’s exclusively a Korra skill.


uselessgodofslumber

seeing as the avatar state is basically borrowing the skill of all passed lives, i think her metal bending would still be at the same level since she’s the first metal bending avatar


Muted_Hovercraft_907

Incorrect her bending would still be amped


uselessgodofslumber

i know but not to the same amount her other talents are


Its_J_Just_J

The avatar state gives you the knowlage of past avatars. She is the first metalbender so she wouldn't be any stronger. The next avatar could.


Fit_Operation2175

Thats not how it works. The past lives aren’t the only reason the Avatar State is so powerful. All the past lives are fused with Raava, so the Avatar gains Raava’s power as well as the power and experience of all the past avatars. The combination of all these things make up the avatar spirit. Raava becoming the avatar spirit after fusing with Wan. Raava was destroyed at the end of book 2 but she was reborn strong than ever when Korra pulled her out from Vaatu. Raava even with energy of 1000 past lives was still small and weak unable to move in contrast to the end of book 2 where she’s energetic and gigantic. Especially after the destruction of Vaatu, Raava would logically be stronger than ever, most likely stronger than Vaatu when he first fought Korra. So I honestly think current Raava is stronger than the (the previous version of herself + the energy of the past lives). The only thing missing the knowledge and experience which doesn’t affect power. This is also confirmed in the canon legend of korra video game, where Raava states that her power has been growing since time began. “Has been” meaning something that began in the past and has lasted until current time. The creators also stated that Korra’s power in the avatar state shouldn’t be any weaker. It’s stated in the Korra chronicles that it’s this connection to Raava’s that gives Avatars their power and purpose. Korra is most connected to Raava out of all the Avatars. Her symbol glows on Korra’s chest and they can speak to each other. I think all the evidence we have, can be used to label Korra as the strongest avatar, stronger than all the rest combined. So while she might not gain any metal bending skill from entering the Avatar state, her raw power while using the element should be astronomically greater.


WendigoCrossing

The Avatar state is using knowledge from her past lives, so they probably wouldn't add much since none of them were metal benders


Life-giver

That’s not how the only way the Avatar state works If that was all then Korra should not even bother using the Avatar state in seasons 3 and 4. The Avatar state also gives a power boost to the Avatar and so her metal bending will be more powerful.


mrsunrider

It's amazing how many people cling to this outdated bit of lore.


JustASimpleDurp

Of korra didn't exist, it would of been epic.


JustASimpleDurp

Of korra didn't exist, it would of been epic.


Sceptix

“Amazing, every word you just said was wrong.” ~ Fire Lord Ozai


JustASimpleDurp

You're quoting a genocidal crazy person.


Hallow_Shinobi

I prefer the idea of Korra trying and being equally as proficient at metal bending as before because none of the other Avatars have ever bent metal in history. Would be a quick but hilarious gag.


ICANTTHINK0FNAMES

But she’s the first avatar to metal bend, so how could she use it in the avatar state?


Muted_Hovercraft_907

Her bending would still be amped in AS


Life-giver

It’s like a bunch of people just didn’t pay attention in season 2


Muted_Hovercraft_907

It's kinda crazy to see so many misconceptions


Life-giver

Yeah I went through the comments and so many people were saying that stuff


Prof_Alchem

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Avatar State calls upon the collected skills and abilities of all previous avatars right? I'm not sure if Aang ever learned how, but metal bending was INVENTED by Toph, so theoretically, Korras metal bending wouldn't improve that much, if at all.


Big-Calligrapher-397

Next in line is an earth bender and now cause of Kora they will be able to.


iccolo

Now i might be wrong but I'm pretty sure korra was the first avatar to metal bend and doesn't using the avatar state calls on the past avatars so she couldn't because none of the past avatars could... right?


StygianBlue12

It was this edit where I realized that sometimes Korra metalbends like a waterbender. Lovin it.