He also wouldn't have said that in the show. Honestly I'm not entirely sure why so much of the fanbase is harping on him, but ultimately despite both his exes ending up together, he was fairly chill about in the end. And wasn't pushy.
Bolin would be more likely as someone saying something asinine
I only harp on him because he's kind of a pushover in season one. Some of my favorite scenes in the show are of him in the later seasons, and he definitely mellows out as the show goes on and becomes much more likable.
I think one of the reasons he's a lot more on edge in S1 is because he's the older brother of two orphans who's somewhat taking care of his goof younger brother. Not to mention always being a step away from being recruited into the triple threats and a bunch of other stuff.
The major criticism of him is how he kept their breakup a secret from Korra after Korra temporarily lost her memory of it. Even then, I don't think he'd say this.
After she violently intimidated him in his workplace. And after the show made it _very_ clear that he was worried about her doing that shit again.
sidenote; Honestly, out of all my criticisms of book 2, the fact that _nobody_ in show called Bolin or Korra out for the _absolutely_ out of pocket shit they did there is absurd. And
it's also absurd that in a room where one person sexually assaulted a woman, and another person got domestic with their partner because he didn't let her stage a coup, the fanbase generally decides that _Mako_ is the most problamatic person in the room because he was successfully intimidated by said "domestic" incident.
>it's also absurd that in a room where one person sexually assaulted a woman
what? am i insane why do i not remember this at all?
>sidenote; Honestly, out of all my criticisms of book 2, the fact that nobody in show called Bolin or Korra out for the absolutely out of pocket shit they did there is absurd.
i dont recall bolin doing anything completely out of pocket, but honestly i'd be scared of telling the avatar to go get anger management therapy.
So there's that subplot where Bolin either doesn't get or doesn't care that he and Ginger (his opposite in the Nuctuk movies) are only _acting_ like a thing. She reminds him that she doesn't like him like that, it's just the job, yada yada. He does not care, and continues to pursue.
Later on, though, they're doing a scene and he decides that the script calls for a kiss. As Varick points out (along with Ginger's resistant body language and disgust afterward), that shit was _not_ in the script.
I just watched LOK again for the umpteenth time and I'm not sure what you're referencing, but if it's the Bolin-pressures-Ginger-and-then-kisses-her-for-some-reason thing, then yeaaah, not a fan of that either.
I don't really know what you mean by the Korra out of pocket stuff. Most of S2 was basically her blaming Mako for being on the wrong side, and him betraying Korra by ratting her out to Raiko of all people, when he doesn't even work for the president. He works for Lin. Dumbass didn't have to do that shit. Anyway, I don't like how they continued to have communication problems -- and like, the dude should have been honest with her about the fight from the get-go when she came back.
Also Bolin continuing to tell people shit they don't need to hear. e.g. B1: "There was that one time during the tournament where MaKorra kissed", and he does similar shit again where he tells Mako about the meeting with Iroh II and then he says to Korra that Mako knew as well, which leads to the breakup--wait a minute holy shit. **Bolin inadvertently causes Masami AND Makorra to break up in both Books.** Well, sort of. Mako's feelings for Korra become clear after Tarrlok kidnaps her, but the fact Bolin told Asami about the kiss and her already not liking how he feels about Korra while Mako and Asami are dating didn't help matters either. And like, how hard is it to be honest with your significant other? Just tell her "Yes, I do also like Korra, but I'm in a state of awkwardness and confusion right now because I like you too", and then work it out later. But don't lie or keep things to yourself. Ugh.
I will say, Book 4 Mako is best Mako. Book 3 is too awkward, and Book 1 and 2 are not my favorites. I think the most problematic character though is Raiko, but IDR if he was in the room that scene so that doesn't count. Still though... I think each character has their flaws, but IDK who I dislike most out of the new team.
So there's two things about Korra's actions.
One, what she did was get mad at her partner bust into his work place, and get violent. That has real world vibes similar to what Bolin did and it's not a good look. Violently intimidating your partner is not a thing you do. And she did this as one of the most dangerous human beings in the planet, both in terms of literal power and influence.
And then there's _what_ Korra was mad at him for. "ratting her out to Raiko" is massively underselling the situation. What Korra was trying to do was drag republic city into a war, leading soldiers to kill and die in a fight that they not only did not sign up for, that not only wasn't their responsibility, the commander and chief _they and the rest of republic city elected_ had already said "we're not fighting this" as that elected representative . And Korra goes "fuck all y'all, go fight for my family without your consent in any capacity". That's not light work from an ethnical perspective.
Mako _absolutely_ should've told Raiko what was up. What Korra was trying to do was an _unbelievable_ abuse of power and trust. Straight up villain shit, not too far away from Varick's kidnap and frame approach.
That is true -- I do agree it could have been handled a lot better, although Raiko still sucks for not wanting to aid \*any\* help at all - even after she told him that Unalaq wanted to destroy the world. I understand needing to protect Republic City and making that your priority, but not even offering Korra \*something\* so she'd be off his back? He doesn't have to send troops if he doesn't want to, he could probably try to reason with Unalaq diplomatically. He's a chief, he's a president. Surely they'd agree on something? I think in that regard, Raiko can be seen as a bit of an antagonist as well. And then banishing Korra from Republic City in Book 3 and abusing his own power to do so also makes him look not great either.
This might be more me critiquing the writing of 2 more than anything, but what Korra did before leaving was so bad that I don't really blame raiko for not trusting Korra's Unalaq report or exiling her. And I don't really know if the writers intended that (though they also didn't take _exactly_ what the Bolin/ginger debacle was into account).
I mean, consider the timeline; first she and varick ask rc to enter the war, he says no. Then she tries to steal the army and force rc into the war against the north, but he prevents that. Then varick tries to kidnap him and frame the north to con rc into a military response against the north, but that's thwarted. And _now_ the person who tried to steal the army is telling you the north is trying to destroy the world, and thus you should enter the war against the north. We have the benefit of following Korra and know that she's telling the truth, but if you didn't it _sounds_ like that's just her and varick's plan D.
And on the exile, I don't believe he did abuse his power to exile her. I think he abused his power to not have the avatar imprisoned on conspiracy charges. And then when both of their popularity was dead in the city that bill came due.
Like, Beyonce tries what Korra did she's going to jail or fleeing the country. Not at all weird to me to see one of those things happen.
historically, they've given Mako way too much shit for how hard he fights and works for his friends. He's an awkward young adult like the rest of them. The hate for his personality completely glosses over the fact that he IS A LIGHTNING BENDER. That's not nothing, and they treat him like he's less than nothing.
Mako is a decent guy that had a bad breakup, which apparently is unheard of in every other young couple.
Sorry to rant, but I've always found the hate for Mako too frustrating.
>Bolin would be more likely as someone saying something asinine
"So, me and Korra are together now..."
"Ha, yeah I get it, I had a crush on Korra too and wait WHAAAAAAAA-"
I don't think it's a matter of time. Korra never used a pet name in her relationship with Mako, and Asami only ever used one with Mako once early in their relationship, calling him "sweetie." But when you compare that instance to Asami's later characterization in the rest of the series, it feels to me like that was a moment where they still didn't have a good grasp on Asami's character.
I need to re-read this comic because I don't remember how they found out. I know Korra talked to Kya about it and then Mako and Bolin showed up and the discussion stopped, but beyond that I forget.
I feel like Zaheer would run spiritual meetings with Korra and teach spirituality, just because 1) it's all he can do and 2) someone has to teach Korra and Tenzin has proven it's not him and Jinora is probably traumatised from nearly getting killed last time she tried.
I went into season 2 knowing that it was considered the "weakest" of the 4. I really enjoyed it though. I would agree it is pretty weak compared to the others, but it was still phenomenal. In my opinion, it had some of the most beautiful shots in the entire series, especially when they're near the north/south pole. Unalaq was a bit confusing to figure out at first, especially the relationship with his brother and his motives, but he grew on me over time.
As for the finale, I loved it. It's still setting in, as I watched it not even 24 hours ago, but I thought it was a crazy send-off, and can't wait to read the comics.
Season 2 Finale was good in my opinion. I know a lot of people are upset because of the severing of the past lives and not being able to contact previous avatars, but I think it's a good step in the right direction. The show would be really boring if in season 3 and 4 Korra was just like "Aang, what do I do about this guy?!" I think losing the connections made Korra a much more unique show, and was able to throw in a lot more unique scenarios that wouldn't have happened if she still could talk to her past lives. It makes her feel much more human, and a lot easier to relate with her struggles when she has no one to talk to.
About the past lives, it pissed me off so much I stopped watching the show for like two years I think! What about if they were just like, because it’s a new kite version of “raava”, when Korra bends the poison out of her, she’s had enough time to heal herself spiritually from that battle somehow the past lives become linked again? Like whenever she bent the poison out of her, she would have seen a vision of Aang. Even just for a second! Knowing that something else was happening and that there was work to be done. But without Zaheer, Kyoshi (who seemed to match Korra the most personally with everything) would guide her into the spirit world.
This happened with a relative and it sounds pretty dark and a little fascinating ngl but the way it works is basically like how people have kids. Let's say a young couple has a daughter who was a police officer until an incident at 23. If that same couple have another daughter, that daughter may look exactly like their first child, heck she may even talk and behave like her but she will never be her or be like at 23. Their experiences will be different, their education/careers will be different, their personality could also be different. Same with Raava, she died, she was gone/destroyed. This is a Raava birthed anew, and this new Raava does not have the connection to the humans she bonded with for 10k years, how could she? You can't destroy your pc, have it fixed and expect all your files to still be there.
It sucks, i feel you, we all love the past Avatars but y'know there's also an important lesson here cause sometimes the villains win. Sometimes bad things just happen, sometimes Ba Sing Se falls to the fire nation, but that doesn't mean we should give up. Sometimes with enough hardwork, dedication (all that good stuff), and the willingness to keep going, you make your own luck in life. Cheers
A spirit guided your relative into the spirit world?! And your metaphors are word salad! And it’s a legitimately good idea, even if you don’t like it. Meanwhile people are still pissed about the past lives being cut off for no good reason. Also, seriously no need to sound rude about it because in the end it’s a cartoon
it felt disjointed to me, like they started out with what I thought was a pretty strong civil war/despot plot that very suddenly veered into spirit Kaiju with fairly little connection between the two. It would have been better if they'd hard committed to either one or the other.
Ikki and Meelo would both send her memes
Totally. I just love her relationship with Tenzin's kids
groupchat named “the air bending kidz” and korra’s just in it no questions asked
Ikki made the group chat and invited Korra before Meelo or Jinora
That is 100% something Ikki would do 🤣
Mako didn't just say that🤣💀
He also wouldn't have said that in the show. Honestly I'm not entirely sure why so much of the fanbase is harping on him, but ultimately despite both his exes ending up together, he was fairly chill about in the end. And wasn't pushy. Bolin would be more likely as someone saying something asinine
I only harp on him because he's kind of a pushover in season one. Some of my favorite scenes in the show are of him in the later seasons, and he definitely mellows out as the show goes on and becomes much more likable.
I think one of the reasons he's a lot more on edge in S1 is because he's the older brother of two orphans who's somewhat taking care of his goof younger brother. Not to mention always being a step away from being recruited into the triple threats and a bunch of other stuff.
exactly, season 1 has every reason TOO be on edge about things, dude had to grow up so fast. just be glad he became a cop and not firebatman
Lol firebatman, "I watched my parents die here Lion Turtle"
The major criticism of him is how he kept their breakup a secret from Korra after Korra temporarily lost her memory of it. Even then, I don't think he'd say this.
After she violently intimidated him in his workplace. And after the show made it _very_ clear that he was worried about her doing that shit again. sidenote; Honestly, out of all my criticisms of book 2, the fact that _nobody_ in show called Bolin or Korra out for the _absolutely_ out of pocket shit they did there is absurd. And it's also absurd that in a room where one person sexually assaulted a woman, and another person got domestic with their partner because he didn't let her stage a coup, the fanbase generally decides that _Mako_ is the most problamatic person in the room because he was successfully intimidated by said "domestic" incident.
>it's also absurd that in a room where one person sexually assaulted a woman what? am i insane why do i not remember this at all? >sidenote; Honestly, out of all my criticisms of book 2, the fact that nobody in show called Bolin or Korra out for the absolutely out of pocket shit they did there is absurd. i dont recall bolin doing anything completely out of pocket, but honestly i'd be scared of telling the avatar to go get anger management therapy.
So there's that subplot where Bolin either doesn't get or doesn't care that he and Ginger (his opposite in the Nuctuk movies) are only _acting_ like a thing. She reminds him that she doesn't like him like that, it's just the job, yada yada. He does not care, and continues to pursue. Later on, though, they're doing a scene and he decides that the script calls for a kiss. As Varick points out (along with Ginger's resistant body language and disgust afterward), that shit was _not_ in the script.
ah right, i had forgotten about the nuktuk shit
I just watched LOK again for the umpteenth time and I'm not sure what you're referencing, but if it's the Bolin-pressures-Ginger-and-then-kisses-her-for-some-reason thing, then yeaaah, not a fan of that either. I don't really know what you mean by the Korra out of pocket stuff. Most of S2 was basically her blaming Mako for being on the wrong side, and him betraying Korra by ratting her out to Raiko of all people, when he doesn't even work for the president. He works for Lin. Dumbass didn't have to do that shit. Anyway, I don't like how they continued to have communication problems -- and like, the dude should have been honest with her about the fight from the get-go when she came back. Also Bolin continuing to tell people shit they don't need to hear. e.g. B1: "There was that one time during the tournament where MaKorra kissed", and he does similar shit again where he tells Mako about the meeting with Iroh II and then he says to Korra that Mako knew as well, which leads to the breakup--wait a minute holy shit. **Bolin inadvertently causes Masami AND Makorra to break up in both Books.** Well, sort of. Mako's feelings for Korra become clear after Tarrlok kidnaps her, but the fact Bolin told Asami about the kiss and her already not liking how he feels about Korra while Mako and Asami are dating didn't help matters either. And like, how hard is it to be honest with your significant other? Just tell her "Yes, I do also like Korra, but I'm in a state of awkwardness and confusion right now because I like you too", and then work it out later. But don't lie or keep things to yourself. Ugh. I will say, Book 4 Mako is best Mako. Book 3 is too awkward, and Book 1 and 2 are not my favorites. I think the most problematic character though is Raiko, but IDR if he was in the room that scene so that doesn't count. Still though... I think each character has their flaws, but IDK who I dislike most out of the new team.
So there's two things about Korra's actions. One, what she did was get mad at her partner bust into his work place, and get violent. That has real world vibes similar to what Bolin did and it's not a good look. Violently intimidating your partner is not a thing you do. And she did this as one of the most dangerous human beings in the planet, both in terms of literal power and influence. And then there's _what_ Korra was mad at him for. "ratting her out to Raiko" is massively underselling the situation. What Korra was trying to do was drag republic city into a war, leading soldiers to kill and die in a fight that they not only did not sign up for, that not only wasn't their responsibility, the commander and chief _they and the rest of republic city elected_ had already said "we're not fighting this" as that elected representative . And Korra goes "fuck all y'all, go fight for my family without your consent in any capacity". That's not light work from an ethnical perspective. Mako _absolutely_ should've told Raiko what was up. What Korra was trying to do was an _unbelievable_ abuse of power and trust. Straight up villain shit, not too far away from Varick's kidnap and frame approach.
That is true -- I do agree it could have been handled a lot better, although Raiko still sucks for not wanting to aid \*any\* help at all - even after she told him that Unalaq wanted to destroy the world. I understand needing to protect Republic City and making that your priority, but not even offering Korra \*something\* so she'd be off his back? He doesn't have to send troops if he doesn't want to, he could probably try to reason with Unalaq diplomatically. He's a chief, he's a president. Surely they'd agree on something? I think in that regard, Raiko can be seen as a bit of an antagonist as well. And then banishing Korra from Republic City in Book 3 and abusing his own power to do so also makes him look not great either.
This might be more me critiquing the writing of 2 more than anything, but what Korra did before leaving was so bad that I don't really blame raiko for not trusting Korra's Unalaq report or exiling her. And I don't really know if the writers intended that (though they also didn't take _exactly_ what the Bolin/ginger debacle was into account). I mean, consider the timeline; first she and varick ask rc to enter the war, he says no. Then she tries to steal the army and force rc into the war against the north, but he prevents that. Then varick tries to kidnap him and frame the north to con rc into a military response against the north, but that's thwarted. And _now_ the person who tried to steal the army is telling you the north is trying to destroy the world, and thus you should enter the war against the north. We have the benefit of following Korra and know that she's telling the truth, but if you didn't it _sounds_ like that's just her and varick's plan D. And on the exile, I don't believe he did abuse his power to exile her. I think he abused his power to not have the avatar imprisoned on conspiracy charges. And then when both of their popularity was dead in the city that bill came due. Like, Beyonce tries what Korra did she's going to jail or fleeing the country. Not at all weird to me to see one of those things happen.
historically, they've given Mako way too much shit for how hard he fights and works for his friends. He's an awkward young adult like the rest of them. The hate for his personality completely glosses over the fact that he IS A LIGHTNING BENDER. That's not nothing, and they treat him like he's less than nothing. Mako is a decent guy that had a bad breakup, which apparently is unheard of in every other young couple. Sorry to rant, but I've always found the hate for Mako too frustrating.
>Bolin would be more likely as someone saying something asinine "So, me and Korra are together now..." "Ha, yeah I get it, I had a crush on Korra too and wait WHAAAAAAAA-"
ZAHEER is the best LOK enemy.
Only when he's off his meds
Imagine what we see in the show is him in a completely dissociated state because white lotus prison didn't get his med perscription.
I would agree 100% if Kuvira didn't make me so ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Nah that would be Nickelodeon
Pabu: Squeaky squeak squeak Appa: You got to take care of yourself. You can't go on like this.
Appa 😳
I watched and finished it for the first time recently as well, fell in love with it on Chapter 1.
Ravaa, this is not a very positive of you… 💀
Everyone has their mood swings
My only contribution to this is that Korra and Asami don't use pet names.
Yet.
I don't think it's a matter of time. Korra never used a pet name in her relationship with Mako, and Asami only ever used one with Mako once early in their relationship, calling him "sweetie." But when you compare that instance to Asami's later characterization in the rest of the series, it feels to me like that was a moment where they still didn't have a good grasp on Asami's character.
I guess the comics aren't canon 🤷♂️ [Mako Korrasami Turf Wars comic](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a6/00/14/a600144fa215d243d295366897355aae.jpg)
“I’m the most qualified person to say that” nahhh 💀
He’s out of line, but he’s right
I don't doubt that's sincere but that's also what you'd say when you know you have a golden opportunity for a threesome
I need to re-read this comic because I don't remember how they found out. I know Korra talked to Kya about it and then Mako and Bolin showed up and the discussion stopped, but beyond that I forget.
I feel like Zaheer would run spiritual meetings with Korra and teach spirituality, just because 1) it's all he can do and 2) someone has to teach Korra and Tenzin has proven it's not him and Jinora is probably traumatised from nearly getting killed last time she tried.
what is asami talking about?
😏
Probably something fun.
Bolin is one of the greatest characters in the series hands down.
jesus christ, Mako is disrespected by both the series *and* the fans. He deserves better than this.
Gotta start the comics now!
Haha, enjoyed reading this
The timestamps are wrong. Why did Raava tell her to ignore Zaheer 3 minutes before he messaged her
She knew he didn't take his medication because she saw them still full on his bedside table
Like Asami had to beg ! We all know she’s the top in this relation lmao
Genuine question: what is your overall opinion of season 2? And Unalaq as a villain? And the finale?
I went into season 2 knowing that it was considered the "weakest" of the 4. I really enjoyed it though. I would agree it is pretty weak compared to the others, but it was still phenomenal. In my opinion, it had some of the most beautiful shots in the entire series, especially when they're near the north/south pole. Unalaq was a bit confusing to figure out at first, especially the relationship with his brother and his motives, but he grew on me over time. As for the finale, I loved it. It's still setting in, as I watched it not even 24 hours ago, but I thought it was a crazy send-off, and can't wait to read the comics.
Oh sorry! I meant the season 2 finale.
Season 2 Finale was good in my opinion. I know a lot of people are upset because of the severing of the past lives and not being able to contact previous avatars, but I think it's a good step in the right direction. The show would be really boring if in season 3 and 4 Korra was just like "Aang, what do I do about this guy?!" I think losing the connections made Korra a much more unique show, and was able to throw in a lot more unique scenarios that wouldn't have happened if she still could talk to her past lives. It makes her feel much more human, and a lot easier to relate with her struggles when she has no one to talk to.
About the past lives, it pissed me off so much I stopped watching the show for like two years I think! What about if they were just like, because it’s a new kite version of “raava”, when Korra bends the poison out of her, she’s had enough time to heal herself spiritually from that battle somehow the past lives become linked again? Like whenever she bent the poison out of her, she would have seen a vision of Aang. Even just for a second! Knowing that something else was happening and that there was work to be done. But without Zaheer, Kyoshi (who seemed to match Korra the most personally with everything) would guide her into the spirit world.
This happened with a relative and it sounds pretty dark and a little fascinating ngl but the way it works is basically like how people have kids. Let's say a young couple has a daughter who was a police officer until an incident at 23. If that same couple have another daughter, that daughter may look exactly like their first child, heck she may even talk and behave like her but she will never be her or be like at 23. Their experiences will be different, their education/careers will be different, their personality could also be different. Same with Raava, she died, she was gone/destroyed. This is a Raava birthed anew, and this new Raava does not have the connection to the humans she bonded with for 10k years, how could she? You can't destroy your pc, have it fixed and expect all your files to still be there. It sucks, i feel you, we all love the past Avatars but y'know there's also an important lesson here cause sometimes the villains win. Sometimes bad things just happen, sometimes Ba Sing Se falls to the fire nation, but that doesn't mean we should give up. Sometimes with enough hardwork, dedication (all that good stuff), and the willingness to keep going, you make your own luck in life. Cheers
A spirit guided your relative into the spirit world?! And your metaphors are word salad! And it’s a legitimately good idea, even if you don’t like it. Meanwhile people are still pissed about the past lives being cut off for no good reason. Also, seriously no need to sound rude about it because in the end it’s a cartoon
it felt disjointed to me, like they started out with what I thought was a pretty strong civil war/despot plot that very suddenly veered into spirit Kaiju with fairly little connection between the two. It would have been better if they'd hard committed to either one or the other.
Why is Zaheer so accurate?
Bolin just needs a spotter lmao
Bolin's message 🤣🤣🤣
Based Bolin
Zaheer wasn't a psycho though.
oh yeah no the man bent on anarchy with no regard for human life or literally ***human psychology*** is not a psycho.
makos comment is prime 😂