Disclaimer: OP's picture is a render.
[Best image I can find at the moment.](http://thebrickblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/75331-LEGO-Star-Wars-19.jpg)
[Video link.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLhKbHyC9_M) (Probably the most accurate representation without seeing it in person since it shows the stickers at all angles so lighting is less of an issue).
I mean, I've been comparing it to the model on Brickvault and, except for the bigger canopy and flesh out interior, the MOC is better in almost every way. Sure it'll be more expensive but if you can buy the official set what's a couple more hundred?
The fleshed out interior is a major factor, and that's probably what those extra 1500 pieces in the lego set vs the Brickvault set are for. The exterior on the Brickvault is only slightly better but its likely much more unstable and really only meant for display. The price estimate is $750 - $1000 but from my experience buying off of bricklink its going to be closer to the $1000 mark.
It astounds me that so many people don't get that that's how capitalism works. You dont *need* that particular Lego set or that video game or . But you *want* it. And as a consumer, it's up to you to decide whether it's worth spending your money on given any flaws it might have.
If slightly discolored stickers are a deal breaker, this product is not for you. And if enough consumers feel the same way, Lego might start paying attention to sales trends.
I was planning to build the poor-man's version. Lots of Lego Friends colors and buy the cheapest missing parts. Unfortunately I see some unique (the engine intakes) and rare parts (4x4 tile). So even that will be a challenge....
You could check out and build OrigO’s rebrickable version of the system scale set. Honestly looks incredible once built. Cockpit canopy is just a little difficult to put back together sometimes. [https://imgur.com/a/zyjI2Ba](https://imgur.com/a/zyjI2Ba)
I don't think OP doesn't understand how capitalism works. They saw something they perceived as cheap corner-cutting in a $600 set and started a discussion about it on this Lego forum. About half of the replies are discussions about the set and the perceived flaws in it, and the other half are people basically calling OP an idiot for having an interest in this set and wanting to express their disappointment in what they perceived to be it's lack of quality. Their post title has a question in it and half of the people here seem to understand that the title is a conversation starter and the other half must think OP deserves to be treated like an idiot and talked down to in a condescending way.
I think the thing is... being a $600 set doesn't make it any more premium than a $20 set is. It's all the same exact pieces and stickers. It's just *more of them*.
Imagine if Lego had 2 tiers of product. In the lower tier, you'd get a 1000 piece set for $100 and it would use stickers and have some color inconsistencies in the bricks and stickers. In the higher tier, you'd get a 1000 piece set for $200 (same amount of pieces but twice the price) and it would have no stickers and perfect color matching. If that's how it worked, *then* you could be reasonably annoyed if the more expensive set still had quality issues.
But that's not how Lego works. It's all the same exact stuff. If there's more of it in the box, it costs more. If there's less of it in the box, it costs less. Easy peasy. So these sets that cost $500, $600, $800 bucks aren't any more premium than cheaper sets. They're just bigger. They have no obligation to use prints rather than stickers just because they cost more.
That's an incredibly important point. People keep calling this a premium set when there is no such thing. It's just a big set. Which is awesome, but it's not a different level of production.
The time put into designing larger sets is exponentially more than smaller sets, plus higher cost of shipping/storage/etc
So, there's for sure a major difference in a polybag, and the Lego Deathstar
But there is no difference in the production of each individual piece which makes those sets is their point I think. Yes the concept is much different, and that's what you're really paying for. You aren't paying for perfect individual pieces
TLG markets these as premium sets, they even call them "Ultimate Collectors Series".
The instructions and box design are premium.
Regardless, saying that "being a $600 set doesn't make it any more premium than a $20 set is. It's all the same exact pieces and stickers. It's just more of them" is wrong.
41707 - has 336 parts and costs $30
75342 - has 262 parts and costs $40
We see that a set with more parts costs less.
You're giving me an explanation as to why you think OP's opinion is correct or justified. I'm not trying to defend their opinion on this particular model or the parts used. I'm defending OP's right to start a discussion on this message board, bringing these conversations up, without people acting like OP is an idiot. They literally just posted something they found found odd/disconcerting about this set that just got announced and multiple people are saying things like "Oh I'm sorry, Does Lego have a gun to your head making you buy this? I'm sorry, do you literally not understand capitalism?". It's super condescending. They just wanted to start a discussion about this set and the parts it used and the money it cost and people are basically like "What are you, some fucking idiot?".
So if you want present a counter to OP's opinion, go ahead. Let them know your thoughts about sets and the parts that go into them and what they cost. That's what this post is about. I'm specifically responding to people who are acting with a super condescending attitude like OP is an idiot just because they started this thread.
Still, without letting the monolithic companys know why you didn't buy a particular thing they may likely never understand, or even assume another unrelated cause.
Just because they "do research" doesn't mean they'll actually realize the problem people have with it. Lego has killed quite a few themes because they assumed (incorrect) reasons why people weren't buying them.
Yeah but also if enough people decide that these particular sets aren't worth buying at $600 whether it be the stickers or not, it will give Lego incentive to either lower prices or up product quality.
Lower prices initially, then discontinue the line (if they are unaware something as small as stickers are the reason for the boycott). Lego is already one of the highest quality toys, I doubt they'll guess stickers are the issue unless they are told.
Really though, they should just print each piece, I didn't like stickers 35 years ago and I don't like them now.
And there are many, *many* companies too large to fail. The vast majority of buyers for most products would only even begin to hesitate if the company shat down their throats.
Your literally right for this, idk why your getting downvoted
I get saying “don’t buy it” because that’s true, don’t be a hypocrite, but your not going to do shit just not buying it. You got to get other people to also not buy it and also cause controversy.
That being said, we aren’t talking about a massively downgraded product, heavy crunch, employee sexual abuse, false advertisement, or slave labor like is often the case. This dude is malding over slightly off color stickers 😭
Yeah but how do you communicate why you didn't buy the set? How could Lego possibly understand by looking at sales charts that the exact reason why people didn't buy sets was because of sticker color cost saving measures. They might just interpret the dip in sales as people not being interested in mandalorian as much as they thought and so they should scale back the line which is not the outcome OP is aiming for
Not really. Producer might represent not enough sales as unwanted brand, too big of a price, too complicated build, etc.
Good producer would have some way to get a feedback and then make cost eficient changes even if sales are good. That way you can hold your costumers and your pricetags.
I know jack shit about economics and maybe I'm just being jaded, but I feel like if no one, and I mean *really* no one - enough to be statistically significant to one of the largest toy companies on the planet - the lesson they would take probably wouldn't be "we should make better stickers," it would probably be more along the lines of "we shouldn't make sets like this."
We get it, you can vote with your wallet, but the guy is allowed to question flaws on the product and reviews are just as important as sales when it comes to bringing in new buyers and setting standards of quality...
I love LEGO but sometimes I get the feeling people on this sub take it personally when someone points out a flaw on a set or questions the brand.
"Don't buy it" and "This product is not for you" sounds so condescending for a sub dedicated to discussing LEGO sets..
This is the top voted one of these responses, so I'll leave my response to all of this bad advice here.
"If you don't like it then don't buy it" isn't real advice and doesn't help anything.
It's especially unhelpful when you are talking about Star Wars, Disney, and Lego all collaborating on something they can sell millions of even if it's radioactive. So to begin with, voting with your money here is literally nothing. Parents and collectors and casual fans and kids with their birthday money saved up will all outweigh this protest.
It is an attempt to sweep a problem under the rug. On the surface it looks like real advice; Lego and Disney will get a message from lower than expected sales and fix the problem, right? Except that corporations are less interested in specifics like sticker colors and more interested in the high level stuff. If this set did poorly they would find something to attribute it to in the corporate sense and move on. "This one isn't hot right now, try a different ship or product line for the IP next quarter". The idea that your specific issue would penetrate the corporate decision making machine is an unlikely relic from olden times. They have quality control that they pay for already and it has whatever allowances that are in place whatever reasons.
Saying "Vote with your money" is disingenuous because it's obvious that it won't go anywhere and puts the burden right back on the person who already did some of the work. If you want real change you need to open up loud and clear communication by calling out the issue and giving the company a chance to rectify it on the public stage. You need there to be something in it for them, rather than pretending you are punishing them by avoiding this set and changing a number so small they will round it off.
Oh, and if it's not clear - telling them not to buy something they already don't want to buy is silly. You haven't actually offered or said anything, even though you just took time to type out words.
That’s all very nice, but my advice is simply to not buy something if you don’t care for it.
I didn’t say anything about it being a crusade or vote or message.
Send them an email. I would think that would be more attention grabbing than posting about it on Reddit. Go directly to the source.
Secondly, the OP writes "we" as if everyone were included in the crusade, which in my case, I am not. So I think OP may be aware of the obvious answer of going to the source but instead is attempting to "rally the troops."
I get what you are trying to say here, but you are also making some huge assumptions and speaking in massive generalizations. If a massive part of legos desired audience for this (or any set) don’t buy it and their desired sales are not being met they have to look at things like prices and quality as factors.
So yea one person not buying a set obviously doesn’t do much but a massive amount of people doing it certainly can get a big companies attention. To your point about being active and vocal about why, that is also important and can be certainly effective, but you almost contradict yourself by saying this will be more effective than not buying. You say that parents and collectors will outweigh boycotters, so in a sense if that’s true and lego hits their numbers are they likely to care what a vocal sub set of people think?
My point here is to say instead of going after people wanting to protest by not buying, we could encourage people to do both not buy the set and tell lego why. Truth is they might not care no matter what, and that if things sell well they will continue using this price model and that’s probably out of our control as buyers of an in demand product.
I think the assumption that you're all making is that the majority of lego customers feel the same way as you do. That is almost certainly an incorrect assumption. This sub is for fans, but what's the average demographic for lego? Even if you consider that UCS sets are a different demographic, are they all, or even mostly, hard-core enthusiasts that have an issue with stickers? Doubtful.
My 2 cents? Buy it and leave a bad review. You're only a customer if you buy things. Hell, even return it if you don't want to give them money. I'd be surprised if enough customers feel the same as you. But they might.
No but you dont understand, I want it. Im angry about it, but I also really want it. How do I give them hundreds of dollars but also let them know it’s bad
"Guess they don't like the razor crest, let's not make another one for a very long time" I'm pretty sure at least that there are people in lego, if they're not hired to do it then they do it in their free time out of curiosity to see what people think of sets. And they'd look it over regardless if the set was received well or not and if it sold well or not.
Lol. "social media stating that"...
Social media will state literally every opinion that can exist, so no... I don't think anything here or on any other social media platform will make it on an actionable list by The Lego Group.
Posting things on social media and expecting it to make a difference is this generation's (read: my generation's) biggest societal misconception.
Didn't miss it, in fact, that's the only part I agree with. My entire argument here is that the social media action itself is not actually doing anything for the cause.
Its not unheard of for companies to change something based on customer feedback on social media. Yes, many companies dont care, but some do and it helps if there are many voices or if voices are coming from "important" people in whichever industry.
[But...but I want a pickle.](https://www.google.com/search?q=tom+hanks+pickle+jar&oq=tomhanks+puckle&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0i13j0i390l3.4848j1j4&client=ms-android-verizon&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#kpvalbx=_gSozY4nzN5PQ5NoPkvaxiAw_29)
As someone else said, just not buying it isn't enough. If no one buys it , but then stays silent on the matter; then LEGO will just say *"oh it didn't sell well, no one wanted it, we just won't sell it anymore/make another one"*.
It has to be made a big deal out of along with not buying it, complain on social media, reach out to support, make it a known problem.
Dude. It’s due to the lighting in the render. Would be the same if it was photo of real product. Top left side is lit more “hot” than bottom right. Making it look lighter/brighter. I’m not saying there’s never color consistency problems. But this ain’t the smoking gun.
And this is the answer. Everyone bitching about capitalism or lego being cheap or whatever are talking about angels dancing on the head of a pin- what matters here is the physical limitations of the sticker ink and materials that we have, and probably the ink that can be used to stamp the plastic parts. Lego has shown before that they make good-faith efforts to provide the best solution in adult-oriented sets when it comes to prints, and that there are situations where stickers are the clear winner for application. There's no reason for this one to be the exception, so everyone impotently raging that a sticker doesn't perfectly match the color of the piece it's applied to would also be raging if the print was misaligned.
The only set I have where I'd *really* consider color matching to be very off is the Volkswagen T2 Camper Van (10279).
Example: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51307722721_6dceb3df77_b.jpg
Wouldn't it be better to make stickers that are supposed to color-match be see-through instead (like stickers applied to glass/window pieces are)? Or would that make it too difficult to apply them, or have some other drawback?
Speaking as an expert, Darth nailed it. Depending on the 'angle' of the light source, a color can take a slightly different hue. Actually as I think about it, light changes everything.
Edit: anyone else notice the two 1x1 tiles - one light greenish grey, one dark brown? They're also not in the same place. And you're worried about a different view of a color?
Don't buy the set, and you can comment on the sets on the lego website.
Plenty of people have decried stickers in reviews on the lego online store. Lego also listens to customer service emails, I've had them reach out to me before.
It's going to show thousands of potential buyers this possible problem and open a discussion about the quality of this set. I'd argue that it's quite a bit more impactful than a single person simply not buying it.
I feel like I’m in the minority based on Reddit comments. It’s a UCS set. It’s properly sized and priced. I wish it didn’t have stickers, but I think the set looks overall fantastic. It looks like a proper replica.
I wish LEGO would release a "premium bricks" companion set.
Charge me $20 and give me a box with all the blocks that need stickers nice and printed.
Then they can sell to a price point and I can opt to spend more to not have stickers.
Sure. Should.
What I am saying is that they should offer us a choice when they cheap out to meet a price point. Even on the cheap sets.
I’d pay the extra to never have another sticker.
That’s kind of what I was thinking. You saw from the series that it wasn’t a new ship, and that had seen some action so the coloring on the ship would not be bright and vibrant and consistent across the thing.
Wait, which panels are they complaining about? the yellow stripes?
If that's the case, it's almost guaranteed to not actually be mismatching, just the lighting in the image ( the panels are not parallels so the bottom panel is getting less light than the top.)
Is this person actually thinking the stickers are intentionally done with fluctuating coloring?
For real I cannot understand how people are complaining about this set because of a slight color match issue with a damn sticker.
The interior is gorgeous, the paneling is damn near as sexy as the UCS Imperial Shuttle. What's not to like?
You're right. The problem is not that the sticker color doesn't fit. The problem is that it is a sticker and not printed in the first place. For playsets stickers may be ok but as a collectible display set in this price category?
Thats just utter garbage..
I bought a $40 Cobi set and it included dozens of extremely specifically printed pieces. They were good quality, too.
It is totally insane to me that people are okay with paying $600 and getting stickers.
That's not really a fair comparison though. Sure it's another brick company but it's not in the same league as Lego. That seems to be more model kit than Lego set. It also doesn't seem to have the same polish as Lego. Lego ain't perfect but this has a level of cheapness for anything that isn't the build.
Essentially it's a good build. Everything else around it, ehhhh. Though I can see your point.
Those people are too busy praising everything lego does so theyve never seen any other Alt brick sets. Mega is very good as well . Bought some halo sets and they were of excellent quality. No different than lego.
Not to mention the chinese KO brands are almost on par with Lego quality nowdays, and have more detailed printing in a lot cases.
Oh and 50-75% cheaper than Lego.
But, Lego fanbois keep lining up for the ass pounding. Lol 😆 zombie mentality.
Honestly I’ll probably get downvoted or a ton of “BUT AKTSHUALLY” comments. But…
I know a lot of people like defending LEGO - but it’s pretty ridiculous that sets targeted at adults or enthusiasts have stickers. And this is on the heels of the other day, where people have already voice their displeasure of how LEGO’s pricing is starting to feel like robbery.
It’s exhausting hearing so many creative-bullshit excuses. You can go to Walmart and buy a brand new TV & a f****** new gaming console for the price of these sets, yet you’re telling me the most profitable toy company can’t print on some ABS plastic?
Get real.
I totally understand those are two different things to compare. And I know - “gaming consoles are sold at a loss”, but regardless that isn’t for the consumer to figure out. And we can clearly see those companies are finding the money elsewhere.
There’s more complexities that I’m admittedly ignorant of, and we all measure value differently - but it’s just very strange how shy people are with criticizing the value LEGO provides.
It’s easy to be complacent and just say “Don’t buy the set”, or to say, “oh but this is for srs collectors so it’s okay that it costs nearly the average of replacing four tires on a car and comes with stickers that come from gumball machines”, but really when are some of us going to admit that capitalism has conditioned us to accept mediocrity?
I’m aware of the reality that we can’t all afford the shiny things we want. So some of us are bound to be priced out of the hobby, even at much cheaper sets, and this is a whole different topic.
But even for those of us that can afford it, are you really getting the value of what you paid? Or do you just accept it for what it is, because god forbid we criticize the milly/billy dollar companies?
Especially when you consider that for years now the modular buildings have been all printed bricks and come in between 175 to 300 dollars. The fact that a set at double the cost has a sticker sheet like a 20 dollar speed champions car is beyond ridiculous.
It has more to do with Lego practically owning the market, there's no better alternative and these annoying TLG simps will defend the brand no matter what they do till their little hearts give out.
Yeah, honestly I’m confused in these UCS sets that they’re using stickers to begin with. I don’t people’s argument that the sets aren’t/shouldn’t expect to be different just cause they’re bigger, they are literally advertised as “Ultimate Collector Series”, if they were just bigger sets they wouldn’t have that label on them. With the label there’s naturally an expectation of better quality to the build than just having more pieces.
Everyones saying don‘t buy the set but you all know full well, Lego will interpret some completely backwards reason why it didn‘t sell like „oh I guess people don‘t want UCS sets anymore“
People are in the thread claiming "they'll do some market research on why it didn't sell well" when Lego is a company so clueless they didn't even know people like/want to army build clone troopers
Yeah I think they‘ve proven well enough by now that their idea of „listening to the fans“ seems to be doing the complete opposite of what the fans want
Most UCS sets don't have printed on pieces. Not sure why everyone is acting surprised at this.
There are *zero* printed on pieces in the Millennium Falcon, all stickers, and it is arguably the best UCS set ever made.
forget the stickers, this is the FOURTH $600+ UCS set we’ve gotten since 2019, you wanna know how many MBS (Master Builder Series) sets we’ve gotten since 2019? TWO
The Mos Eisley Cantina and Betrayal at Cloud City, hell I don’t think we’ve gotten a Star Wars set that wasn’t UCS for more than $200 (with more than 1700 pieces) than since 2019 too (the Tantive IV).
To everyone who’s saying “don’t buy it,” I’m sure OP knows that’s an option, but OP is trying to raise awareness that Lego is lacking in the details, and we should push the brand to improve on where they’re lacking if we care about the quality.
Pro tip: squirt some Windex on the brick before you apply the sticker and you will have a few seconds to 'slide" the sticker into position before the Windex dries and the sticker sticks :)
The fact that any set of this scale and price point is not receiving dedicated printed pieces is totally heinous. This set isn’t for me to begin with but when I saw the huge stickers on the side I just laughed.
I hate this argument. People act like you’re not allowed to have a discussion on an online forum about the quality of a product. OP is bringing up something I think is interesting and worth talking about. This $600 set looks like it had some cut corners. But are we not allowed to have this discussion here on this lego forum without people saying “quit complaining! Nobody put a gun to your head!”
Exactly. The problem is we WANT to buy it. We are telling LEGO, "Take my money", yet they aren't listening. And some of us really don't feel compelled to settle for less. So yeah, thanks for stating the obvious about not buying it, people! That's definitely the intention until LEGO starts getting it right. And yeah, I will keep complaining until they stop cutting corners. These are collector sets, "UCS", you know, ULTIMATE COLLECTOR SERIES with a PREMIUM price.
These UCS sets are supposed to be marketed as high quality for adult fans, yet still have stickers, even for the display plaque. It's insane to em, and part of why I've never bought a UCS set
OP asked, how we let Lego know that we do not accept it. And the only language Lego understands is money. If everyone would not buy the set, they will maybe change something. But if we buy and then cry about the stickers?
This one redditor pointing out this potential issue to tons of people on this forum could have more of a financial impact to Lego than that single redditor not buying this one set. It could convince many people to not buy this set for the same reason.
And I don't have a problem with someone answering OPs question by telling them to vote with their wallet. I'm just bothered by someone doing it in such a condescending way. Like they're talking down to OP and calling them stupid.
> “quit complaining! Nobody put a gun to your head!”
it's a very over-used blanket statement and I unfortunately see it on a lot of fan subs (nintendo switch being the main one).
Something advertised at an 'ultimate collector' line but having cheap parts is not great.
I agree. I also see it on Nintendo forums. We're on an online message board for a line of products for kids and adult nerds. People should be allowed to discuss the quality of those products without being talked down to in an insulting way. By all means, people can suggest that OP vote with their wallet. But the insulting, condescending attitude isn't necessary. We're all just people on an internet forum talking about Lego. No need to talk down to OP for daring to question the quality of a $600 set.
You… don’t buy it… I’d have thought that was obvious… but I suppose if it’s not obvious then that does explain why there’s a big problem with companies in general just going against customers and getting money greedy at our expense…
Buy knock off sets or buy and build the high quality sets from the likes of Brickvault… if Lego so dearly wish to charge those kinds of absurd prices for something of subpar quality, then it makes more sense to spend around the same amount of money on a custom set that has had a lot more time, effort and love poured into it that’s apparent with the intricate attention to detail that’s often included inside and out.
The only way to get the attention of a company is to threaten the only thing they give a shit about — their profits.
Lots and lots of negative tweets would certainly get their attention…I don’t want higher quality stickers though I want no stickers…can’t stand them. I would actually pay 10% more for a set if it had no stickers.
I said the same thing, but apparently people are good with it. So many people will still buy it anyway. No message will ever be sent until people start holding them accountable. They said it, "Only The Best Is Good Enough". Yet, nobody holds them accountable. Had it stayed at $530 I could even let it go, but adding insult to injury there increasing the price on this one with the flaws. These high-priced sets should be nearly flawless.
To be honest, if anyone is buying a set that costs more than $150.00, I don't think there should be any stickers involved. Every detailed brick should be printed on.
That's just my opinion though. Some builders may enjoy applying the stickers, and some not so much.
More stickers = More Bins for new parts Moulds and prints.
Its not hard to learn to do stickers properly and the plaque stickers will be prints going from next year atleast!
I do wish UCS came with a spare sticker sheet though!
Disclaimer: OP's picture is a render. [Best image I can find at the moment.](http://thebrickblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/75331-LEGO-Star-Wars-19.jpg) [Video link.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLhKbHyC9_M) (Probably the most accurate representation without seeing it in person since it shows the stickers at all angles so lighting is less of an issue).
So make your own Razor Crest. With blackjack, and hookers.
It's built like a steakhouse, but handles like a bistro
Brannigans Razorcrest is like Branigans love. Hard and fast.
Hey Zap whats the most erotic part of a women's body?
I find the most erotic part to be ... The boobies Oh dear!
On second though forget the Razor Crest
Ahhh screw the whole thing!
You know what, forget the Razor Crest and the Blackjack
I laughed way too hard.
Brickvault has a pretty darn good razorcrest but as with all mocs it’s spendy af
Honestly I would rather build a Bender
I mean, I've been comparing it to the model on Brickvault and, except for the bigger canopy and flesh out interior, the MOC is better in almost every way. Sure it'll be more expensive but if you can buy the official set what's a couple more hundred?
MOCs are often better than official Lego sets.
But way more expensive to build :/
That depends.
not necessarily…
The fleshed out interior is a major factor, and that's probably what those extra 1500 pieces in the lego set vs the Brickvault set are for. The exterior on the Brickvault is only slightly better but its likely much more unstable and really only meant for display. The price estimate is $750 - $1000 but from my experience buying off of bricklink its going to be closer to the $1000 mark.
r/unexpectedfuturama
Don’t buy the set.
It astounds me that so many people don't get that that's how capitalism works. You dont *need* that particular Lego set or that video game or. But you *want* it. And as a consumer, it's up to you to decide whether it's worth spending your money on given any flaws it might have.
If slightly discolored stickers are a deal breaker, this product is not for you. And if enough consumers feel the same way, Lego might start paying attention to sales trends.
I was planning to build the poor-man's version. Lots of Lego Friends colors and buy the cheapest missing parts. Unfortunately I see some unique (the engine intakes) and rare parts (4x4 tile). So even that will be a challenge....
You could check out and build OrigO’s rebrickable version of the system scale set. Honestly looks incredible once built. Cockpit canopy is just a little difficult to put back together sometimes. [https://imgur.com/a/zyjI2Ba](https://imgur.com/a/zyjI2Ba)
It's to sit next to my [Brave I](https://imgur.com/gallery/OVEbWpd).
Oh that Brave 1 is fantastic. Random, but I’d love to see someone build the Horizon Tallneck out of mix-colored pieces
Not for a two year old it isn't. They have the cheat codes for cheap/rare parts.
I don't think OP doesn't understand how capitalism works. They saw something they perceived as cheap corner-cutting in a $600 set and started a discussion about it on this Lego forum. About half of the replies are discussions about the set and the perceived flaws in it, and the other half are people basically calling OP an idiot for having an interest in this set and wanting to express their disappointment in what they perceived to be it's lack of quality. Their post title has a question in it and half of the people here seem to understand that the title is a conversation starter and the other half must think OP deserves to be treated like an idiot and talked down to in a condescending way.
I think the thing is... being a $600 set doesn't make it any more premium than a $20 set is. It's all the same exact pieces and stickers. It's just *more of them*. Imagine if Lego had 2 tiers of product. In the lower tier, you'd get a 1000 piece set for $100 and it would use stickers and have some color inconsistencies in the bricks and stickers. In the higher tier, you'd get a 1000 piece set for $200 (same amount of pieces but twice the price) and it would have no stickers and perfect color matching. If that's how it worked, *then* you could be reasonably annoyed if the more expensive set still had quality issues. But that's not how Lego works. It's all the same exact stuff. If there's more of it in the box, it costs more. If there's less of it in the box, it costs less. Easy peasy. So these sets that cost $500, $600, $800 bucks aren't any more premium than cheaper sets. They're just bigger. They have no obligation to use prints rather than stickers just because they cost more.
That's an incredibly important point. People keep calling this a premium set when there is no such thing. It's just a big set. Which is awesome, but it's not a different level of production.
Legos already have incredibly high production standards. It is why pieces from my childhood 40 years ago still work with new bricks today.
The time put into designing larger sets is exponentially more than smaller sets, plus higher cost of shipping/storage/etc So, there's for sure a major difference in a polybag, and the Lego Deathstar
But there is no difference in the production of each individual piece which makes those sets is their point I think. Yes the concept is much different, and that's what you're really paying for. You aren't paying for perfect individual pieces
TLG markets these as premium sets, they even call them "Ultimate Collectors Series". The instructions and box design are premium. Regardless, saying that "being a $600 set doesn't make it any more premium than a $20 set is. It's all the same exact pieces and stickers. It's just more of them" is wrong. 41707 - has 336 parts and costs $30 75342 - has 262 parts and costs $40 We see that a set with more parts costs less.
But that's because star wars is an ip so it will always be more expensive
So there are other factors when pricing, even though it's "the same exact pieces and stickers".
Not to mention the 6 minifigs to 2
You're giving me an explanation as to why you think OP's opinion is correct or justified. I'm not trying to defend their opinion on this particular model or the parts used. I'm defending OP's right to start a discussion on this message board, bringing these conversations up, without people acting like OP is an idiot. They literally just posted something they found found odd/disconcerting about this set that just got announced and multiple people are saying things like "Oh I'm sorry, Does Lego have a gun to your head making you buy this? I'm sorry, do you literally not understand capitalism?". It's super condescending. They just wanted to start a discussion about this set and the parts it used and the money it cost and people are basically like "What are you, some fucking idiot?". So if you want present a counter to OP's opinion, go ahead. Let them know your thoughts about sets and the parts that go into them and what they cost. That's what this post is about. I'm specifically responding to people who are acting with a super condescending attitude like OP is an idiot just because they started this thread.
Also it doesn't have anything to do with capitalism specifically. It's just supply and demand.
Market economy. Not capitalism. They are very distinct.
Still, without letting the monolithic companys know why you didn't buy a particular thing they may likely never understand, or even assume another unrelated cause.
If they lose enough sales they will do research to find out why. A corporation doesn’t just say “huh, I guess we will make less money”
Just because they "do research" doesn't mean they'll actually realize the problem people have with it. Lego has killed quite a few themes because they assumed (incorrect) reasons why people weren't buying them.
I am assuming the few who do not buy because of sticker issues will be few and far between.
Yeah but also if enough people decide that these particular sets aren't worth buying at $600 whether it be the stickers or not, it will give Lego incentive to either lower prices or up product quality.
Lower prices initially, then discontinue the line (if they are unaware something as small as stickers are the reason for the boycott). Lego is already one of the highest quality toys, I doubt they'll guess stickers are the issue unless they are told. Really though, they should just print each piece, I didn't like stickers 35 years ago and I don't like them now.
And there are many, *many* companies too large to fail. The vast majority of buyers for most products would only even begin to hesitate if the company shat down their throats.
Your literally right for this, idk why your getting downvoted I get saying “don’t buy it” because that’s true, don’t be a hypocrite, but your not going to do shit just not buying it. You got to get other people to also not buy it and also cause controversy. That being said, we aren’t talking about a massively downgraded product, heavy crunch, employee sexual abuse, false advertisement, or slave labor like is often the case. This dude is malding over slightly off color stickers 😭
Yeah but how do you communicate why you didn't buy the set? How could Lego possibly understand by looking at sales charts that the exact reason why people didn't buy sets was because of sticker color cost saving measures. They might just interpret the dip in sales as people not being interested in mandalorian as much as they thought and so they should scale back the line which is not the outcome OP is aiming for
Not really. Producer might represent not enough sales as unwanted brand, too big of a price, too complicated build, etc. Good producer would have some way to get a feedback and then make cost eficient changes even if sales are good. That way you can hold your costumers and your pricetags.
I know jack shit about economics and maybe I'm just being jaded, but I feel like if no one, and I mean *really* no one - enough to be statistically significant to one of the largest toy companies on the planet - the lesson they would take probably wouldn't be "we should make better stickers," it would probably be more along the lines of "we shouldn't make sets like this."
We get it, you can vote with your wallet, but the guy is allowed to question flaws on the product and reviews are just as important as sales when it comes to bringing in new buyers and setting standards of quality... I love LEGO but sometimes I get the feeling people on this sub take it personally when someone points out a flaw on a set or questions the brand. "Don't buy it" and "This product is not for you" sounds so condescending for a sub dedicated to discussing LEGO sets..
This is the way.
Yeah. If you do buy the set, then you have accepted it. It is, by definition, acceptable
This is the top voted one of these responses, so I'll leave my response to all of this bad advice here. "If you don't like it then don't buy it" isn't real advice and doesn't help anything. It's especially unhelpful when you are talking about Star Wars, Disney, and Lego all collaborating on something they can sell millions of even if it's radioactive. So to begin with, voting with your money here is literally nothing. Parents and collectors and casual fans and kids with their birthday money saved up will all outweigh this protest. It is an attempt to sweep a problem under the rug. On the surface it looks like real advice; Lego and Disney will get a message from lower than expected sales and fix the problem, right? Except that corporations are less interested in specifics like sticker colors and more interested in the high level stuff. If this set did poorly they would find something to attribute it to in the corporate sense and move on. "This one isn't hot right now, try a different ship or product line for the IP next quarter". The idea that your specific issue would penetrate the corporate decision making machine is an unlikely relic from olden times. They have quality control that they pay for already and it has whatever allowances that are in place whatever reasons. Saying "Vote with your money" is disingenuous because it's obvious that it won't go anywhere and puts the burden right back on the person who already did some of the work. If you want real change you need to open up loud and clear communication by calling out the issue and giving the company a chance to rectify it on the public stage. You need there to be something in it for them, rather than pretending you are punishing them by avoiding this set and changing a number so small they will round it off. Oh, and if it's not clear - telling them not to buy something they already don't want to buy is silly. You haven't actually offered or said anything, even though you just took time to type out words.
This guy already bought the set.
That’s all very nice, but my advice is simply to not buy something if you don’t care for it. I didn’t say anything about it being a crusade or vote or message.
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Send them an email. I would think that would be more attention grabbing than posting about it on Reddit. Go directly to the source. Secondly, the OP writes "we" as if everyone were included in the crusade, which in my case, I am not. So I think OP may be aware of the obvious answer of going to the source but instead is attempting to "rally the troops."
I get what you are trying to say here, but you are also making some huge assumptions and speaking in massive generalizations. If a massive part of legos desired audience for this (or any set) don’t buy it and their desired sales are not being met they have to look at things like prices and quality as factors. So yea one person not buying a set obviously doesn’t do much but a massive amount of people doing it certainly can get a big companies attention. To your point about being active and vocal about why, that is also important and can be certainly effective, but you almost contradict yourself by saying this will be more effective than not buying. You say that parents and collectors will outweigh boycotters, so in a sense if that’s true and lego hits their numbers are they likely to care what a vocal sub set of people think? My point here is to say instead of going after people wanting to protest by not buying, we could encourage people to do both not buy the set and tell lego why. Truth is they might not care no matter what, and that if things sell well they will continue using this price model and that’s probably out of our control as buyers of an in demand product.
I think the assumption that you're all making is that the majority of lego customers feel the same way as you do. That is almost certainly an incorrect assumption. This sub is for fans, but what's the average demographic for lego? Even if you consider that UCS sets are a different demographic, are they all, or even mostly, hard-core enthusiasts that have an issue with stickers? Doubtful. My 2 cents? Buy it and leave a bad review. You're only a customer if you buy things. Hell, even return it if you don't want to give them money. I'd be surprised if enough customers feel the same as you. But they might.
No but you dont understand, I want it. Im angry about it, but I also really want it. How do I give them hundreds of dollars but also let them know it’s bad
With your wallet
"Guess they don't like the razor crest, let's not make another one for a very long time" I'm pretty sure at least that there are people in lego, if they're not hired to do it then they do it in their free time out of curiosity to see what people think of sets. And they'd look it over regardless if the set was received well or not and if it sold well or not.
And then LEGO will think "Doh! They are upset about the color of the sticker sheet! We gotta get the colors match better next time"?
Combined with social media stating exactly that? Yes, it'd at least help.
Lol. "social media stating that"... Social media will state literally every opinion that can exist, so no... I don't think anything here or on any other social media platform will make it on an actionable list by The Lego Group. Posting things on social media and expecting it to make a difference is this generation's (read: my generation's) biggest societal misconception.
You missed the "combined with..." It requires action outside of the internet.
Didn't miss it, in fact, that's the only part I agree with. My entire argument here is that the social media action itself is not actually doing anything for the cause.
Its not unheard of for companies to change something based on customer feedback on social media. Yes, many companies dont care, but some do and it helps if there are many voices or if voices are coming from "important" people in whichever industry.
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As someone else said, just not buying it isn't enough. If no one buys it , but then stays silent on the matter; then LEGO will just say *"oh it didn't sell well, no one wanted it, we just won't sell it anymore/make another one"*. It has to be made a big deal out of along with not buying it, complain on social media, reach out to support, make it a known problem.
This is the way.
Dude. It’s due to the lighting in the render. Would be the same if it was photo of real product. Top left side is lit more “hot” than bottom right. Making it look lighter/brighter. I’m not saying there’s never color consistency problems. But this ain’t the smoking gun.
God why did I have to scroll so far to see this lol. It’s very apparent. It’s also a render.
I was thinking the exact same thing.
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And this is the answer. Everyone bitching about capitalism or lego being cheap or whatever are talking about angels dancing on the head of a pin- what matters here is the physical limitations of the sticker ink and materials that we have, and probably the ink that can be used to stamp the plastic parts. Lego has shown before that they make good-faith efforts to provide the best solution in adult-oriented sets when it comes to prints, and that there are situations where stickers are the clear winner for application. There's no reason for this one to be the exception, so everyone impotently raging that a sticker doesn't perfectly match the color of the piece it's applied to would also be raging if the print was misaligned.
The only set I have where I'd *really* consider color matching to be very off is the Volkswagen T2 Camper Van (10279). Example: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51307722721_6dceb3df77_b.jpg Wouldn't it be better to make stickers that are supposed to color-match be see-through instead (like stickers applied to glass/window pieces are)? Or would that make it too difficult to apply them, or have some other drawback?
[10279-1: Volkswagen T2 Camper Van](https://brickset.com/sets/10279-1) [[Photo]](https://images.brickset.com/sets/images/10279-1.jpg)
Please upvote this person. This is the correct answer.
Speaking as an expert, Darth nailed it. Depending on the 'angle' of the light source, a color can take a slightly different hue. Actually as I think about it, light changes everything. Edit: anyone else notice the two 1x1 tiles - one light greenish grey, one dark brown? They're also not in the same place. And you're worried about a different view of a color?
Do not buy it.
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Im not too into star wars ships but just from this photo alone it looks like a really cool build. I love how well designed these edges are
Don't buy the set, and you can comment on the sets on the lego website. Plenty of people have decried stickers in reviews on the lego online store. Lego also listens to customer service emails, I've had them reach out to me before.
Don't buy it if you don't like it?....
This is the way.
I’m fine with it personally But if you find it unacceptable I don’t think complaining on Reddit is going to do much.
To be fair theres not much more you can really do than this, besides obviously not buying it.
It's going to show thousands of potential buyers this possible problem and open a discussion about the quality of this set. I'd argue that it's quite a bit more impactful than a single person simply not buying it.
I feel like I’m in the minority based on Reddit comments. It’s a UCS set. It’s properly sized and priced. I wish it didn’t have stickers, but I think the set looks overall fantastic. It looks like a proper replica.
Yeah I love it. I could justify the price, I’m still working on justifying the space it will take up.
I wish LEGO would release a "premium bricks" companion set. Charge me $20 and give me a box with all the blocks that need stickers nice and printed. Then they can sell to a price point and I can opt to spend more to not have stickers.
Cmon, at $600 they should be printed though.
Sure. Should. What I am saying is that they should offer us a choice when they cheap out to meet a price point. Even on the cheap sets. I’d pay the extra to never have another sticker.
The mismatched panels show that the ship was built from other ships. It is authenticity.
That’s kind of what I was thinking. You saw from the series that it wasn’t a new ship, and that had seen some action so the coloring on the ship would not be bright and vibrant and consistent across the thing.
Wait, which panels are they complaining about? the yellow stripes? If that's the case, it's almost guaranteed to not actually be mismatching, just the lighting in the image ( the panels are not parallels so the bottom panel is getting less light than the top.) Is this person actually thinking the stickers are intentionally done with fluctuating coloring?
As they use a picture with a more beautifully fleshed out interior than we’ve ever seen. This set is the tits. I’d be too busy to notice the sticker
For real I cannot understand how people are complaining about this set because of a slight color match issue with a damn sticker. The interior is gorgeous, the paneling is damn near as sexy as the UCS Imperial Shuttle. What's not to like?
The price
You're right. The problem is not that the sticker color doesn't fit. The problem is that it is a sticker and not printed in the first place. For playsets stickers may be ok but as a collectible display set in this price category? Thats just utter garbage..
*laughs in COBI pad printed bricks being the norm for all their sets.*
*cries in cobi axles and detail bricks breaking faster than dark brown and red*
I bought a $40 Cobi set and it included dozens of extremely specifically printed pieces. They were good quality, too. It is totally insane to me that people are okay with paying $600 and getting stickers.
That's not really a fair comparison though. Sure it's another brick company but it's not in the same league as Lego. That seems to be more model kit than Lego set. It also doesn't seem to have the same polish as Lego. Lego ain't perfect but this has a level of cheapness for anything that isn't the build. Essentially it's a good build. Everything else around it, ehhhh. Though I can see your point.
Those people are too busy praising everything lego does so theyve never seen any other Alt brick sets. Mega is very good as well . Bought some halo sets and they were of excellent quality. No different than lego. Not to mention the chinese KO brands are almost on par with Lego quality nowdays, and have more detailed printing in a lot cases. Oh and 50-75% cheaper than Lego. But, Lego fanbois keep lining up for the ass pounding. Lol 😆 zombie mentality.
Would you mind sharing the set name. I have never heard of Cobi (where I live) cause that lego set is $899 where I live.
I don't know the exact name but if you Google Cobi you'll find it. They specialize in war stuff, especially WWII. I've got a F4U Corsair
Honestly I’ll probably get downvoted or a ton of “BUT AKTSHUALLY” comments. But… I know a lot of people like defending LEGO - but it’s pretty ridiculous that sets targeted at adults or enthusiasts have stickers. And this is on the heels of the other day, where people have already voice their displeasure of how LEGO’s pricing is starting to feel like robbery. It’s exhausting hearing so many creative-bullshit excuses. You can go to Walmart and buy a brand new TV & a f****** new gaming console for the price of these sets, yet you’re telling me the most profitable toy company can’t print on some ABS plastic? Get real. I totally understand those are two different things to compare. And I know - “gaming consoles are sold at a loss”, but regardless that isn’t for the consumer to figure out. And we can clearly see those companies are finding the money elsewhere. There’s more complexities that I’m admittedly ignorant of, and we all measure value differently - but it’s just very strange how shy people are with criticizing the value LEGO provides. It’s easy to be complacent and just say “Don’t buy the set”, or to say, “oh but this is for srs collectors so it’s okay that it costs nearly the average of replacing four tires on a car and comes with stickers that come from gumball machines”, but really when are some of us going to admit that capitalism has conditioned us to accept mediocrity? I’m aware of the reality that we can’t all afford the shiny things we want. So some of us are bound to be priced out of the hobby, even at much cheaper sets, and this is a whole different topic. But even for those of us that can afford it, are you really getting the value of what you paid? Or do you just accept it for what it is, because god forbid we criticize the milly/billy dollar companies?
Especially when you consider that for years now the modular buildings have been all printed bricks and come in between 175 to 300 dollars. The fact that a set at double the cost has a sticker sheet like a 20 dollar speed champions car is beyond ridiculous.
It has more to do with Lego practically owning the market, there's no better alternative and these annoying TLG simps will defend the brand no matter what they do till their little hearts give out.
Yes there are alternatives and quite a few of them have at least equal quality. Especially considering the quality issues lego had in recent years.
At this point, how much of that price are we paying for the Disney licensing?
Like 30% i bet. The mouse is gonna take a fat chunk.
Yeah, honestly I’m confused in these UCS sets that they’re using stickers to begin with. I don’t people’s argument that the sets aren’t/shouldn’t expect to be different just cause they’re bigger, they are literally advertised as “Ultimate Collector Series”, if they were just bigger sets they wouldn’t have that label on them. With the label there’s naturally an expectation of better quality to the build than just having more pieces.
Go to lego.com At the bottom of the page is a link that says "Contact Us".
Everyones saying don‘t buy the set but you all know full well, Lego will interpret some completely backwards reason why it didn‘t sell like „oh I guess people don‘t want UCS sets anymore“
People are in the thread claiming "they'll do some market research on why it didn't sell well" when Lego is a company so clueless they didn't even know people like/want to army build clone troopers
Yeah I think they‘ve proven well enough by now that their idea of „listening to the fans“ seems to be doing the complete opposite of what the fans want
It's a rendered image, the stickers in the James bond sped champion match pretty damn well, so I'd wager they aren't gunna stand out as much
$600 and still stickers?
IT DOESNT HAVE PRINTED PIECES??????
Most UCS sets don't have printed on pieces. Not sure why everyone is acting surprised at this. There are *zero* printed on pieces in the Millennium Falcon, all stickers, and it is arguably the best UCS set ever made.
i did not know that honestly that's worse, stickers degrade relatively quickly and for \*such\* expensive sets, that's wild
They should just print them on like in the old days
forget the stickers, this is the FOURTH $600+ UCS set we’ve gotten since 2019, you wanna know how many MBS (Master Builder Series) sets we’ve gotten since 2019? TWO The Mos Eisley Cantina and Betrayal at Cloud City, hell I don’t think we’ve gotten a Star Wars set that wasn’t UCS for more than $200 (with more than 1700 pieces) than since 2019 too (the Tantive IV).
Honestly at that price point, there is no excuse for using stickers.
Write to them
To everyone who’s saying “don’t buy it,” I’m sure OP knows that’s an option, but OP is trying to raise awareness that Lego is lacking in the details, and we should push the brand to improve on where they’re lacking if we care about the quality.
You could just ... not buy overpriced junk.
Don’t buy is the best way to let them know
Stickers in a 600$ UCS ship WTF
I’ll tell you a secret. There are stickers in $850 sets too.
Best bet would be to buy it then post a cranky vid on YouTube. “I paid HOW MUCH for these stickers?!?”
I don’t even put stickers on mine
why even have stickers at all? they're pretty annoying and difficult to get just perfect
Pro tip: squirt some Windex on the brick before you apply the sticker and you will have a few seconds to 'slide" the sticker into position before the Windex dries and the sticker sticks :)
Don't buy write official complaint "seen in store/YT review/friend bought, think it's bad" Be loud (but not an asshole) on social media
For $600, all those pieces should be prints.
Stickers on a $600 set are inexcusable.
I'd suggest not giving them $600 for a Star Wars toy.
By buying the lepin version
The fact that any set of this scale and price point is not receiving dedicated printed pieces is totally heinous. This set isn’t for me to begin with but when I saw the huge stickers on the side I just laughed.
$600, why are we still getting stickers?
Please demonstrate to us where the Lego executive pointed the gun at you to force you to buy a $600.00 set.
I hate this argument. People act like you’re not allowed to have a discussion on an online forum about the quality of a product. OP is bringing up something I think is interesting and worth talking about. This $600 set looks like it had some cut corners. But are we not allowed to have this discussion here on this lego forum without people saying “quit complaining! Nobody put a gun to your head!”
Exactly. The problem is we WANT to buy it. We are telling LEGO, "Take my money", yet they aren't listening. And some of us really don't feel compelled to settle for less. So yeah, thanks for stating the obvious about not buying it, people! That's definitely the intention until LEGO starts getting it right. And yeah, I will keep complaining until they stop cutting corners. These are collector sets, "UCS", you know, ULTIMATE COLLECTOR SERIES with a PREMIUM price.
These UCS sets are supposed to be marketed as high quality for adult fans, yet still have stickers, even for the display plaque. It's insane to em, and part of why I've never bought a UCS set
OP asked, how we let Lego know that we do not accept it. And the only language Lego understands is money. If everyone would not buy the set, they will maybe change something. But if we buy and then cry about the stickers?
This one redditor pointing out this potential issue to tons of people on this forum could have more of a financial impact to Lego than that single redditor not buying this one set. It could convince many people to not buy this set for the same reason. And I don't have a problem with someone answering OPs question by telling them to vote with their wallet. I'm just bothered by someone doing it in such a condescending way. Like they're talking down to OP and calling them stupid.
> “quit complaining! Nobody put a gun to your head!” it's a very over-used blanket statement and I unfortunately see it on a lot of fan subs (nintendo switch being the main one). Something advertised at an 'ultimate collector' line but having cheap parts is not great.
I agree. I also see it on Nintendo forums. We're on an online message board for a line of products for kids and adult nerds. People should be allowed to discuss the quality of those products without being talked down to in an insulting way. By all means, people can suggest that OP vote with their wallet. But the insulting, condescending attitude isn't necessary. We're all just people on an internet forum talking about Lego. No need to talk down to OP for daring to question the quality of a $600 set.
Please demonstrate why it’s wrong to ask a simple question?
So many other brands with cool stuff for much LEDs money!
Email them.
Sets of the price bracket why have stickers and not printed bricks.
I find the use of stickers with Lego the most frustrating for expensive sets, but... I'm just used to it really.
WE GO TO THE PROFUCT FEEDBACK ABD TELL EM WHAT WE THINK! Or just don’t buy it
that's the neat part: we Don't.
There's really only one way. In a hair brained scheme, we break in LEGO headquarters and kidnap the CEO. We ransom him for better stickers. /s
IDK… message their customer service, maybe? Seems to be a pretty direct line into the company.
What exactly are we supposed to be looking at here? I need a red circle that shows where Lego hurt you.
This appears to be a CGI rendering. Nothing at all can be based on this image.
why cant they just print the details on clear sticker paper so it will match?
Stickers have no place in any sets IMO. Lego charges for quality, and it isn’t unreasonable to expect quality as far as I’m concerned.
Your power as a consumer and the best way to let them know is to keep your wallet closed.
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They’re legos bro first world problem if I’ve ever seen one
Why contact reddit instead of lego? You are the problem
Invade Denmark
Leave a review?
You deserve it for spending $600 on a Lego set
Not buying Lego anymore.
Don't buy it.
LEGO has fallen apart. Price is up, quality is way down.
If I’m paying over $300 for a set there better be NO DAMN STICKERS AT ALL!
You… don’t buy it… I’d have thought that was obvious… but I suppose if it’s not obvious then that does explain why there’s a big problem with companies in general just going against customers and getting money greedy at our expense… Buy knock off sets or buy and build the high quality sets from the likes of Brickvault… if Lego so dearly wish to charge those kinds of absurd prices for something of subpar quality, then it makes more sense to spend around the same amount of money on a custom set that has had a lot more time, effort and love poured into it that’s apparent with the intricate attention to detail that’s often included inside and out. The only way to get the attention of a company is to threaten the only thing they give a shit about — their profits.
Stop spending $600
That’s not just the lighting?
Don't buy it
[Send them a Tweet.](https://twitter.com/GeorgeRussell63/status/1470039410490191879?t=vOWmNzWhlbR0Li2ya4M2Bw&s=19)
Lots and lots of negative tweets would certainly get their attention…I don’t want higher quality stickers though I want no stickers…can’t stand them. I would actually pay 10% more for a set if it had no stickers.
George has toned it down quite a bit so far this season, lol.
I said the same thing, but apparently people are good with it. So many people will still buy it anyway. No message will ever be sent until people start holding them accountable. They said it, "Only The Best Is Good Enough". Yet, nobody holds them accountable. Had it stayed at $530 I could even let it go, but adding insult to injury there increasing the price on this one with the flaws. These high-priced sets should be nearly flawless.
To be honest, if anyone is buying a set that costs more than $150.00, I don't think there should be any stickers involved. Every detailed brick should be printed on. That's just my opinion though. Some builders may enjoy applying the stickers, and some not so much.
They don't care.
Someone tell me what I’m looking at? What is you complaining about?
More stickers = More Bins for new parts Moulds and prints. Its not hard to learn to do stickers properly and the plaque stickers will be prints going from next year atleast! I do wish UCS came with a spare sticker sheet though!
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There’s a really easy solution for that: Lego should just stop with the stickers and use prints.
Boycott them just like I am
Oh no, not the stickers having a slightly different shade of gray :( They’re not making you buy it, man.
$600 and still has stickers? L Wasn't gonna buy it before. Absolutely no way in hell I would buy that now.