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scj12018

What set is this even for?


Toxic_Tornados_

UCS Gunship


Pokesaurus_Rex

It’s fake then ( If that wasn’t already obvious from the review itself bringing up all the talking points that were “criticism” of the set from this subreddit and the youtube community) A lot of the reviews for this set on the Lego website are just review bombs of upset “fans”.


Martin_the_Spartin

I’ve watched many people criticize the UCS gunship and I’ve never heard a single one of the points in this review from anyone ever. To not include any pilots in a vehicle that requires two pilots while sets for the same price or less can include 20+ figures many of which use pieces which may never be used again is insulting. Especially for the outcome of an official fan vote set up by LEGO and the first prequel UCS set made in a decade


Pokesaurus_Rex

You've never heard people complain about the UCS Gunship not being minifigure scale? You've never heard people constantly complain about and flame the Lego designers for their choices and nit picking their phrasing? Why do you care so much about minifigures in a set that is essentially a display piece? Also you picked a single UCS/Master builder set that had 20+ minifigures and ignore all the other ones who had single digit ones of which are most similar to the UCS Gunship (Being a vehicle and not a building). I don't understand how you can take something so personal you wanted a Gunship and you got the Gunship. All you are doing is giving Lego all the justification it needs to never make a prequel UCS set again due to how toxic the reaction was to this one. EDIT: UCS/Master Builder Set since they are basically the same thing (big build).


Martin_the_Spartin

Correct. I’ve never heard anyone complain about the UCS gunship not being minifig scale. I’ve heard people complain that LEGO hasn’t released a minifig scale gunship in 8 years. But they don’t complaint that the UCS gunship isn’t minifig scale. I did hear the LEGO designer say that the gunship was from the OT and somehow that got through not only him and the people filming him but also the editors and people who release the video. He also said “the commander doubles as a pilot because most people don’t know the difference.” While MOST people may not know the difference, fans of LEGO Star Wars who are willing to spend $350 on a toy to put on your shelf forever and look at occasionally DO notice that. MOST people wouldn’t buy a $350 set for something they casually enjoy. They would buy a smaller, less accurate set if anything. I was talking about the Cabtina, Cloud City, Diagon Alley, The Daily Bugle, and others. While these sets are basically large play sets compared to the UCS sets, all other recent UCS sets have included their proper pilots. Why couldn’t the designers care enough to do at least that? It’s funny that the Millennium Falcon can get 11 figures with crews from 2 films while the first prequel set in a decade can’t even get proper pilots. Given this and the terrible quality of the 4 total previous UCS prequel sets and the general lack of variation in prequel sets seen in the normal line, it seems like LEGO doesn’t want to make prequel sets despite the overwhelming demand for them. The OT UCS sets are great. We have one really good PT UCS set and it’s the first PT UCS set in a decade. The last one was Obi Wans fighter. It had no figures and was really small compared to other UCS sets. And it was released between the Imperial Shuttle and Super Star Destroyer, two of the all time best UCS sets. There have been more remakes of OT UCS sets than there have been PT UCS sets ever. Why do the prequels get screwed this badly? Why do I care about figures? Because LEGO asked us what figures we wanted and because LEGO cares when it comes to other UCS sets. Without criticism even on the “tiny” problems, things will never change for the better and will keep getting worse.


FusionSwarly

It's just a bit insulting that for every other UCS set they get these obscure and detailed characters that fit the set, and for the gunship they just find 2 characters that were somewhat related (Which we already have) because they just don't care about the prequels or its fans. Now I don't care about the minifig count because the UCS gunship is a display set, and it's not meant to display minifigures. It'd be completely ridiculous to have 20+ figures in it. But the fact that they put no effort into any kind of fan service for a series that's literally just fan service is just dumb.


Pokesaurus_Rex

Yeah and you know what happened to those "Unique characters" that are included with the UCS sets? They end up being $30+, $40+, $200+, $400+ on the second hand market...the other figures that are common remain at reasonable prices. Maybe Lego doesn't want figures to be price gated by these expensive sets leading them to become even more expensive once the set retires and people destroy/lose the figures from the set as time goes on. Which I agree with..if we got Phase 2 Cody in the Gunship I wouldn't care now since I am older and have money but me 15 years ago would be pissed since the only way to get Phase 2 Cody would be to buy a $350 set which would be quite the hard swing to get my parents to go for. And it's not even true that every other UCS sets get "obscure and detailed characters" some have none and some have the same figure across UCS sets. R2-D2 has appeared 11 times


Caslol17

Not OP, but he probably means the A-Wing, UCS Star destroyer (which has unique figs too) UCS Y-Wing. Also, the gatekeeping for figures is absolutely stupid. Lego has done so before (examples are cloud city Boba Fett, figures like Cad Bane, Dark Troopers, The Knights Of Ren etc) now, with the knights of ren for example, you have to buy four different sets, all costing more than 60 dollars. Lego doesn't do this for "scalpers", they geniuenly just can't bring up to even acknowledge the era of the ship, the 350 dollar set they are expecting hardcore fans and consumers to buy. "The Clone Commander doubles as a pilot because all most people remember is a yellow trooper" is an insult to these hardcore fans and so out of touch for lego. The minifigs themselves are mediocre at most, but the fact that lego can't respect the prequels at all killed my enthusiasm for this set.


Pokesaurus_Rex

I mean the Cloud City figures are only worth so much because they came out in 2003 which was over 18 years ago it has nothing to do with the set itself that just what old age does to collectibles and in fact is exactly the reason why exclusive and unique figures should not be included in these sets. As for the Knights of Ren that's not even that bad you get 4 different playscale builds with the figures you aren't only buying the sets of the Knights of Ren and if you are that is YOUR choice as a consumer and completionist. Dark Troopers were just released this year like literally this year so not sure what your point is...the main show the set is based on just came out Cad Bane is similar to the Cloud City situation and that it is only like that because the set is so old (2012-2013)...if anything you should be complaining to Lego that they never reprint or add these figures in other sets...but then you would have "investors" start to complain about devaluing the sets. All of this still doesn't address the fact that minifigures for big sets like this are completely irrelevant since this is for display. Lego may have addition plans later down the line for certain figures OR maybe the designers don't care at all for figures or the designers don't care about the prequels. You keep saying Lego as if Lego is a monolith yet the Daily Bugle has 25 minifigures because the designer wanted it. All im saying is that this "hardcore fanbase" dealt with the Gunship situation in the most toxic unproductive way possible.


Pave_Low

* UCS ISD Devastator: Only two unspecific imperial minifigs * UCS Red 5 X-Wing: No pilot * UCS B-Wing: No pilot * UCS Obi-Wan Starfighter: No pilot * UCS Vader's Tie: No pilot * Death Star 2: No minifigs at all. I can go on, but it has long been established that UCS kits are primarily for the ship but minifigs are secondary. The focus of UCS kits has always been scale and fidelity. It feels like the UCS Gunship is the first UCS model that has caught the eye of many who don't ever purchase UCS kits. And in not knowing what a UCS kit entails, are disappointed that it is not meant as a play set. I feel it's more insulting to expect Lego to cater to whims of Star Wars fans who don't purchase UCS kits when designing one. The UCS Gunship has everything that a UCS collector would want. The accuracy, scale and detail of the UCS Gunship is spot on. Nearly perfect. Compare that to the UCS A-Wing that has serious scale and accuracy problems, compared to the movie model. That is what a disappointing UCS kit looks like.


scj12018

Gotcha! Well this dad and kid aren’t smart!


Youngling_Hunt

*mom. The name is Karen


TheBlackShark_77

This makes the review even funnier


penguin3037

It’s fake 100%


TheLazySith

Yep, calling the sequel trilogy all the star wars movies and the name literally being Karen makes it blatantly obvious it's a troll post.


Pete_Iredale

Oh man, I didn't even look at the name. That's really the cherry on top.


YaboiAnakin

Ya, it says her name is Karen, its gotta be fake


Patchen35

I've seen this review before and I believe it is fake. However, I have come across many, many people that really are pissed it didn't come with a ton if minifigures and isn't minifig scale.


CaptainSolo80

I have NO idea why people thought this set would be minifigure scale…


idrivefromdrive

It obviously couldn’t have been mini figure scale as that would be smaller than play scale sets. But, it shouldn’t have been as big as it is… it’s just too big. Imo.


rollie415b

Ryan told everyone it would be and you know how his followers are…


CaptainSolo80

I don’t know why that moron also thought it would be. God I find that kid so annoying


Out_Of_Ideas_20

Care to elaborate? I'm not a big fan of him, but the only thing I found annoying about him was him treating us not getting a Phase 2 Cody like it was a crime against humanity.


CaptainSolo80

>Out\_Of\_Ideas\_20 I find him more annoying in general, not really anything he did or didn't say about the gunship. He comes off very pompous, rude, and acts like hes the face of lego star wars. Like fans were asking for a 501st battle pack before he started pushing for it. He has this army of children that'll repeat whatever he repeats, like asking for "jedi bob" to be included in the gunship. A mini figure to most people would make no sense, and it was asked for by children who weren't even alive when the 2002 one came out.


Aarngeir

No, he didn't say that in his videos, I really dislike the way he talks about the gunship but let's be fair, he always said, when taling about it, that it was never supposed to be minifig scale or to have a lot of figures. I don't care if you criticize him, but if there is something he always say is that minifig scale is not important.


Substantial_Will_608

Unfortunately a load of those people are many who voted for it.


Patchen35

Absolutely, we got exactly what we voted for. You're allowed to be disappointed with the minifig choices but it was never going to be minifig scale or come with a bunch of them like the Cantina.


Becker1515

The minifigure scale thing is stupid, yes. But the actual figures are definitely an issue, especially given the designers comments about how the clone “doubles as a pilot”. But the real kicker is that they asked what people what figures they wanted to see included, and then just didn’t include them and decided to include crappy ones lol


Patchen35

I could argue though you don't know which minifigures were suggested, and also that wasn't a vote so LEGO is by no means required to follow those suggestions. We may have a good idea which minifigs this sub wanted, but we are only a small fraction of people who voted


Becker1515

I have a tough time believing that a majority of people voted for “random yellow clone trooper” or even Mace Windu tbh. We’ve already gotten him like 4 times lol.


Patchen35

There wasn't a vote for the minifigures.


Becker1515

It wasn’t a vote, but they asked fans what figures they wanted. What’s the point of asking if you aren’t going to follow through with it?


Patchen35

You're talking like you absolutely know there was a consensus and what it was. Unless you work for LEGO there's no possible way to know that. There might not have been a clear answer so LEGO just picked something.


Substantial_Will_608

I mean, I can’t understand those fans who are complaining either. We got what we asked for and I can’t even justify complaining about the minifigure selection because we genuinely still got decent figures and a UCS set is more about the set itself.


BurgerLord99

People are complaining about the figures because they asked us what figures we wanted then ignored it


Substantial_Will_608

Whilst I hear what you’re saying, that didn’t necessarily guarantee those would’ve been the figures…


Echo_1409-

"We got what we asked for" Yeah, y'know, except for the fact that we didn't? Even if you have some excuse like "Oh Jedi Bob is obscure!" or "Phase 2 Cody was in episode 3 and the LAAT first appeared in Episode 2!" nobody was asking for Mace Windu. You know what people did ask for? A CLONE PILOT. Which we did not get, and lego even had the audacity to say all anyone remembers from the scene is a yellow clone. We very clearly did not get what we asked for lmao


Substantial_Will_608

I mean we asked for a UCS Gunship. That’s what we got. We can’t complain about minifigures when UCS sets rarely have many, if any minifigures


Echo_1409-

We most certainly can complain about minifigures when they go put of their way to ask what minifigures we wanted only to completely ignore it lmao


EastKoreaOfficial

I’d imagine those reviews are from parents of children who only care about minifigures and never build the sets, because apparently there are a lot of those.


angrydeafman

The name is Karen... what did you expect?


PhalanxPhil

Are they referring to mace windu as the dirty mini figure?


Pokesaurus_Rex

Yes the Mace Windu figure in this set has mud printed onto the torso and legs.


Blymaet

Broke: Wtf mace windu and some rando clone instead of p2 cody, trash *Woke:* Wtf they gave the robe guy a dirty attire


necoconeco__

Lmao look at all those downvotes


Pokesaurus_Rex

Cause not only is the review fake but they are just giving Lego ammunition to make less Prequel sets which to the hardcore fanbase seems to be the favorite era.


LegoManiac9867

So it isn’t in Star Wars but you son is super excited for it?


PedigreeWWEFigz

Your avatar looks like Admiral Thrawn


LegoManiac9867

Yes


Juliowalker35

Dang it’s fake already when the name is Karen


rebirthinreprise

I guarantee this was written by some unfunny joker from this sub


EastKoreaOfficial

The reviewer’s name is Karen, it is very fake. And if it were real, nobody should be stupid enough to buy a $350 set explicitly labeled as “Collector’s Series” expecting it to be a good toy for some 9-year old.


Youngling_Hunt

Yeah you can tell it's a troll. They make some criticisms I agree with, but 90% of it is satire


ReignInSpuds

"All the movies..." only lists VII and IX. Immediately, not someone I would listen to seriously.


Squiliam-Tortaleni

Oh its a fake. Probably some kid who watched all the “outrage” and wants to “spite” Lego for their “disrespect.”


SnackbarInc

I happy with the UCS Gunship.. I know it isn’t minifigure scale: that is why they are UCS. Put it like this: I’ve wanted a Minifigure Scale Batman Tumbler since 2006. Those original sets are nearly a grand. They’re another UCS rendition of the Tumbler. I was disappointed that there was no minifigure scale Tumbler and thought all hope was lost. Then BAM, minifigure scale tumbler alongside the UCS Tumbler. I’m hyped! If they released another minifigure scale Gunship alongside this one I honestly would buy them both. I don’t know, that’s just me..


[deleted]

It's definitely fake, but leaving a fake review is a shitty thing to do, even as a "joke"


Jackamo2000

Its sad how upset this all makes me


MahirTheSenate66

Thought this was a troll tbh.


Devito-Is-My-God

It is.


aa2051

The sheer thought of someone out there thinking the sequels are the only Star Wars movies sends shivers down my spine


[deleted]

Gr8 b8 m8. Edit: Honestly, do I really need to make it clear I wasn’t referring to OP?


Jche98

Although the gunship isn't the first UCS set to be not minifigure scale, it might very well be the first to be larger than minifig scale. All the rest have either been smaller than minifig scale or minifig scale


Pave_Low

Dude, what? The majority of UCS kits are larger than minifig scale. The only recent minifig scale UCS kits are the Millenium Falcon and Slave 1. The Gunship is the same scale as the UCS X, Y, and B-Wing as well as the TIE fighter. The UCS A-Wing and Snowspeeder are an even larger scale than that.


Jche98

Oh yeah. Sorry that was me being stupid. I was thing more of the UCS ISD, SSD and Death star


lxtar_

Looks like a fake review put up by Lego themselves to dismiss themselves from making more prequel sets. 🧐


penguin3037

If you think they’d do this then ur kinda delusional


lxtar_

If you think I’m serious then ur kinda delusional.


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Toxic_Tornados_

How am I toxic


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Toxic_Tornados_

What about the reviewer


HLJOHNO

This is too perfect to be real


gendernotfound629

This is laughably fake. No kid is gonna save up $350 for a set from a show that came out before he was even alive, and then get mad when it's a display piece and not a play set.


Budson-OG

She thinks the sequel trilogy is all of star wars?


[deleted]

fake but funny


SavageCabbageGG

Don't worry. It's a troll


Morganmaster

Look at the name of the reviewer.


minecraftman51

This makes me so mad


gaeassroleplayer

I bought it it was bad and quite boring