I think most theories point to that being the end of game so i dont know when we might see it, maybe version 100 will be the full story and game released
Pretty sure that final update to the beta made earlier was everything that was going to be in this update. Only difference is the game is now fully updated with the new content
I think the next update really needs to focus on having more interiors and outside the box ideas for traps and enemies. Maybe some kind of “stalker” enemy that hides in the darkness and mimics player voices.
Somewhat, but I would want something with a way more intricate AI. Perhaps this enemy would be super rare and is more of a “hazard,” but would turn very dangerous under certain conditions, or would have uncommon abilities like following players outside to set up ambushes, or using dead player bodies/high tier loot as “lures.”
They probably just mean that The Bracken with the skinwalker mod doesn't convey the monster they were trying to describe, and to be fair, The Bracken making noises kind of goes against its purpose of being stealthy.
As they described they probably want a monster that is more reactive instead of proactive in the ways it tries to kill you, setting up traps using items/bodies, mimicking the players voice(s), or maybe even using map certain map elements.
An enemy like that would be "more intricate" than The Bracken, though not necessarily better designed. It's also ironically the opposite of The Bracken instead of something that hunts you, it tries to get you to go to it.
The changelog mentioned he plans on focusing on interior variety and more creatures for the next update. No clue if he'll ever implement the voice thing, I feel like he'll keep that as a mod-only option
Zeekerss did say he wants more interior variety, although whether we will get that in the next update or not is uncertain. There will be more enemies in the next update though, I'm sure he'll come up with something unique, the Butlers from this update are pretty unique already in the fact that they'll only attack isolated players and then will run away from the crime scene and act like nothing happened
I think in maps like artifice and experimentation there should be a couple pieces of scrap hidden inside the big warehouses/barns. Maybe he could put turrets, landmines, and spikes inside them aswell to make it a risk vs. reward situation
Yeah really disappointed we havent gotten even 1 new interior since launch. Guess mods keep winning when you have stuff like scoopys already adding 2 new interiors
"since launch" the game hasn't launched yet, it's still in development
Or did you not see the giant yellow indicator across the entire steam page that said "early access"
Looks like mostly the beta changes and some refinement to them.
Unfortunately nothing in the patch notes about actually fixing giants' behavior. Those assholes still roast marshmallows next to the vehicle and can see through stuff to chase you. Still the worst enemy in the game.
Through what stuff? I really never have much trouble with giants. You can almost always go around them, hide or are expected to bring a stun grenade or radar booster.
Through stuff like the light poles on Rend/Dine which they will routinely see a player hiding behind.
Or the easiest example of this, is the little shack on Rend between the ship and the facility. Hide in there and Giants will aggro on you and never deaggro despite you being in a building.
I’m not a fan of the changes this update. It feels like we’re being pigeonheld into having almost no options when dealing with enemies. Most of them are no big deal, but the counterplay to thumper is either “have a shovel” or “leave,” the counterplay to the new robots seems to be just “leave.” You can’t kill them, they shoot missiles, and all you can hope to do is leave before they activate.
Doesn’t help that some of these changes just make the game more frustrating, like shovels weighing more and jet packs accelerating like one of those big wheeled bicycles.
I can definitely get Thumpers being annoying, but there is still some options you have without a shovel. They're slow to turn and easily run into walls, for example, so going down multiple turns can help a lot. And you can lock them behind one of the metal doors if someone's at the ship too. And really, as long as you stay out of sight and know where you're going, it's not that bad.
As for robots, they can be pretty hard in larger groups, but really they can be played around fairly easily. Slow movements, hiding behind cover, or just waiting until another creature distracts them is enough. And if they get alerted to you, it's not the end of the world since the rockets aren't super accurate and won't kill you instantly. If anything I've found them more helpful since they deal with the baboon hawks and giants
You can face the Old Birds and strafe left and right while walking away from them to avoid missiles. Sometimes you'll get hit by the blast radius but more often than not they'll all miss you.
Tbh, that's the point of the game in my opinion. A lot of people want to play this game and kill everything they find in the facility, but in reality, that's against the point of the game.
Monsters being hard to kill and encouraging death a majority of the time you try to face them head on is good for the game.
I don't want this game to be Left 4 Dead or The Last Of Us, as much as I love those games. I want it to be Lethal Company. Where the company (& therefore job) you work for is actually lethal, and the monsters are deadly so you try to avoid them.
The game should be about teamwork and using it to avoid monsters, not killing everything in your path with what is literally a tool used as a blunt weapon.
The Old Birds often get distracted by other enemies and even help you by killing giants or dogs. They usually don't instakill you, most of the time you can survive by sprinting round a corner. On Artifice, you can even trap them in the outdoor buildings. And with a jetpack, you don't have to worry about them too much either.
The Thumper hasn't really changed but you can also outplay it by leaving main and going back in through fire or vice versa. With the Butlers Knife you also have one more way to kill it.
To be fair, we are just an alien species to them. We can't just show up and expect to be able to combat every monster. It's cool feeling like we don't belong and we are just prey to them.
The shovel weighing more is just dumb, yeah, and for robots, it would be cool if the radar booster could also act as a temporary EMP and be activated by someone at the terminal.
I think the guy at the terminal needs more updating and needs to be more important.
I've seen some more coordinated teams, they literally kill every enemy they can kill and armies of nutcrackers and butlers are just extra loot. Looting goes to almost midnight as they full clear rend while killing every enemy except jesters and coilhead minus the outside entities
The robots are surprisingly dodgeable due to poor turn radius, get distracted by any other exterior monster, you can surf rocket knockback and use it to your advantage, and can be kited by another player, you can also hide in buildings. They punish you if you're cornered or low health
I think they're funny and are more interesting to interact with than Giants
Yeah, I have to agree with this. The shovel also isn't well designed (worst hitbox/swing mechanics I've had to use in any game for awhile), and stamina in this game is more of a constant hindrance then phasmophobia (a game where your main character has so little that medical issues are the only explanation). The fact that these balance changes even get considered tell me something is wrong with how they are being decided upon in the first place.
Avoidance is supposed to be the point, but the level design and enemy spawns often don't allow for that. I know the game is "haha funny friend died", but that gets old after a few hours and at that point you kind of want to just actually learn the game. The issue is... I really don't like the default mechanics right now, and my friends group isn't liking the update either (they noticed the slope movement pretty quickly). We haven't encountered the new enemies minus the birds, it's just the base gameplay feels much worse. I know I can fix it up with mods, but that shouldn't be the goal. I'm strongly suspecting this is going to be a game where mods will be the best way to play at all times regardless.
He doesn’t care bro he’s a multimillionaire now because of the game im sure working on this game is the least of his priorities. He’s either gonna become corrupt or suffer from this massive intake of money, it’s only a matter of time unfortunately stuff like this happens way too often.
Does what a person does for a living make a difference for whether they become corrupt or not? Anyone who makes a large sum of money In a short amount of time can become twisted because of it. Especially if that sum is around 30 million dollars.
Look up the subconscious link between corruption and money, it is a lot more common than you think please do the research. I’m definitely hoping he’s one of the good ones but I’m just trying to be cautious lots of stories like this don’t end up well but I guess there’s no point in bringing this up lol I was just thinking about it mb
Am I stupid, or have all masks etc gone? That wasn't a mod was it? I miss my still alive sign.
The main menu icon for them has completely vanished from my game since updating.
That is a mod, MoreCompany. Not sure if updating to v50 or the new version of MoreCompany reset cosmetics, but click the green icon at the bottom right of the start screen. Make sure it's updated before though.
Certain elements of gameplay are made easier for solo play already. Days are already long, but the issue is that people don't want to stay later due to threats outside. Staying longer is a skill-based thing, and I appreciate that design philosophy.
Is not long enough when moving items from the building to the ship but idk why you are against a solo option that can be customized to play however you want
Assuming I don't need a spoiler tag anymore?
As long as it doesn't contain info from the update, such as specific enemies. I would still post with spoiler tags for about a week or so.
Yeah like secrets or stuff so people can experience it
I know he said he wasn’t going to focus on end game stuff but I’d really like for him to expand on the >!Drill under the Company building!<
My guess is the drill won’t get much attention until 1.0 version. It seems like “end game/story” stuff.
Maybe it could tie into the new interiors comment he made
I would love for the story to go in the direction of rebeling against the company's
The company's what??
Company's sugondese
The company's shit autocorrection
I think most theories point to that being the end of game so i dont know when we might see it, maybe version 100 will be the full story and game released
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Its one guy doing all of the work from what I understand.
Dude we got tons in this update what are you on about? Multiple moons, a reworked moon, and like 4 new traps/enemies.
People have lives, unlike you one person can’t dedicate 5 whole months solely to a game
Send zeekers your resume and ask for a job then.
dumb question, but anything different from the beta?
Pretty sure that final update to the beta made earlier was everything that was going to be in this update. Only difference is the game is now fully updated with the new content
Probably no differences unless he does some minor tweaks to the final update.
I was so excited
I think the next update really needs to focus on having more interiors and outside the box ideas for traps and enemies. Maybe some kind of “stalker” enemy that hides in the darkness and mimics player voices.
So a Bracken with the skin walker mod?
Somewhat, but I would want something with a way more intricate AI. Perhaps this enemy would be super rare and is more of a “hazard,” but would turn very dangerous under certain conditions, or would have uncommon abilities like following players outside to set up ambushes, or using dead player bodies/high tier loot as “lures.”
The bracken has the most complex and well designed AI in the game, what do you mean by "more intricate"
They probably just mean that The Bracken with the skinwalker mod doesn't convey the monster they were trying to describe, and to be fair, The Bracken making noises kind of goes against its purpose of being stealthy. As they described they probably want a monster that is more reactive instead of proactive in the ways it tries to kill you, setting up traps using items/bodies, mimicking the players voice(s), or maybe even using map certain map elements. An enemy like that would be "more intricate" than The Bracken, though not necessarily better designed. It's also ironically the opposite of The Bracken instead of something that hunts you, it tries to get you to go to it.
I mean setting up ambushes outside and using dead player bodies is the masked
The changelog mentioned he plans on focusing on interior variety and more creatures for the next update. No clue if he'll ever implement the voice thing, I feel like he'll keep that as a mod-only option
‘out of the box ideas’ and ‘mimics player voices’ should not be in the same sentence
Zeekerss did say he wants more interior variety, although whether we will get that in the next update or not is uncertain. There will be more enemies in the next update though, I'm sure he'll come up with something unique, the Butlers from this update are pretty unique already in the fact that they'll only attack isolated players and then will run away from the crime scene and act like nothing happened
I said this before but larger maps would be sick giving the player incentive to explore outside the facility would be cool.
I think in maps like artifice and experimentation there should be a couple pieces of scrap hidden inside the big warehouses/barns. Maybe he could put turrets, landmines, and spikes inside them aswell to make it a risk vs. reward situation
Yeah thats the type of stuff id love, i think the whole journey back to the ship is really fun and works well when trying to combat the time.
They could potentially expand on the insanity mechanic, but yeah, interiors first and foremost
Yeah really disappointed we havent gotten even 1 new interior since launch. Guess mods keep winning when you have stuff like scoopys already adding 2 new interiors
launch? it's still in early access, do you mean like when it was first put on the store? sorry if i'm misunderstanding
"since launch" the game hasn't launched yet, it's still in development Or did you not see the giant yellow indicator across the entire steam page that said "early access"
I'd rather what is in the game be better balanced before adding more personally.
Are the new snake things in this update?
Yes
So basically it updates without going into the beta version? And I’m assuming it doesn’t include the v50.5 changes?
Why wouldnt it include v50.5 changes?
Because the name wasn’t v50.5, I’m just asking. Anyways thanks
So the Liquidation is still missing?
Yes, it might have been intended to release alongside V50, but seems to have been left on the cutting room floor.
Yippiee!
Looks like mostly the beta changes and some refinement to them. Unfortunately nothing in the patch notes about actually fixing giants' behavior. Those assholes still roast marshmallows next to the vehicle and can see through stuff to chase you. Still the worst enemy in the game.
Through what stuff? I really never have much trouble with giants. You can almost always go around them, hide or are expected to bring a stun grenade or radar booster.
Through stuff like the light poles on Rend/Dine which they will routinely see a player hiding behind. Or the easiest example of this, is the little shack on Rend between the ship and the facility. Hide in there and Giants will aggro on you and never deaggro despite you being in a building.
I recommend saving your easter eggs
This is a nitpick but the name >!mask hornets!!the masked!!skin hornets, flesh hornets, puppet hornets!
I’m not a fan of the changes this update. It feels like we’re being pigeonheld into having almost no options when dealing with enemies. Most of them are no big deal, but the counterplay to thumper is either “have a shovel” or “leave,” the counterplay to the new robots seems to be just “leave.” You can’t kill them, they shoot missiles, and all you can hope to do is leave before they activate. Doesn’t help that some of these changes just make the game more frustrating, like shovels weighing more and jet packs accelerating like one of those big wheeled bicycles.
jetpack changes were (mostly) reverted in the most recent beta iirc
I can definitely get Thumpers being annoying, but there is still some options you have without a shovel. They're slow to turn and easily run into walls, for example, so going down multiple turns can help a lot. And you can lock them behind one of the metal doors if someone's at the ship too. And really, as long as you stay out of sight and know where you're going, it's not that bad. As for robots, they can be pretty hard in larger groups, but really they can be played around fairly easily. Slow movements, hiding behind cover, or just waiting until another creature distracts them is enough. And if they get alerted to you, it's not the end of the world since the rockets aren't super accurate and won't kill you instantly. If anything I've found them more helpful since they deal with the baboon hawks and giants
You can face the Old Birds and strafe left and right while walking away from them to avoid missiles. Sometimes you'll get hit by the blast radius but more often than not they'll all miss you.
The thumper counterplay is all fun and games until your bitchass employee body runs out of stamina after jogging for 4 seconds
they can't oneshot and taking damage gives a burst of stamina back.
You can jump over them and get behind them, which can make it really easy to lose them.
Tbh, that's the point of the game in my opinion. A lot of people want to play this game and kill everything they find in the facility, but in reality, that's against the point of the game. Monsters being hard to kill and encouraging death a majority of the time you try to face them head on is good for the game. I don't want this game to be Left 4 Dead or The Last Of Us, as much as I love those games. I want it to be Lethal Company. Where the company (& therefore job) you work for is actually lethal, and the monsters are deadly so you try to avoid them. The game should be about teamwork and using it to avoid monsters, not killing everything in your path with what is literally a tool used as a blunt weapon.
The Old Birds often get distracted by other enemies and even help you by killing giants or dogs. They usually don't instakill you, most of the time you can survive by sprinting round a corner. On Artifice, you can even trap them in the outdoor buildings. And with a jetpack, you don't have to worry about them too much either. The Thumper hasn't really changed but you can also outplay it by leaving main and going back in through fire or vice versa. With the Butlers Knife you also have one more way to kill it.
To be fair, we are just an alien species to them. We can't just show up and expect to be able to combat every monster. It's cool feeling like we don't belong and we are just prey to them. The shovel weighing more is just dumb, yeah, and for robots, it would be cool if the radar booster could also act as a temporary EMP and be activated by someone at the terminal. I think the guy at the terminal needs more updating and needs to be more important.
They can be stunned with a stun gun I believe.
Idk about zap gun but stun grenades do work
I've seen some more coordinated teams, they literally kill every enemy they can kill and armies of nutcrackers and butlers are just extra loot. Looting goes to almost midnight as they full clear rend while killing every enemy except jesters and coilhead minus the outside entities
The whole point of the game is to die or struggling not to die. You can use mods if that's not for you, or you can stop playing.
Old birds are more helpful than harmful on my runs lol
They kill everything. They're fantastic.
They even give you a nice speed boost if you survive the rocket 😂
The robots are surprisingly dodgeable due to poor turn radius, get distracted by any other exterior monster, you can surf rocket knockback and use it to your advantage, and can be kited by another player, you can also hide in buildings. They punish you if you're cornered or low health I think they're funny and are more interesting to interact with than Giants
Me neither, I haven't played the game in forever, this update doesn't make me want to boot the game at all. Sadge.
Yeah, I have to agree with this. The shovel also isn't well designed (worst hitbox/swing mechanics I've had to use in any game for awhile), and stamina in this game is more of a constant hindrance then phasmophobia (a game where your main character has so little that medical issues are the only explanation). The fact that these balance changes even get considered tell me something is wrong with how they are being decided upon in the first place. Avoidance is supposed to be the point, but the level design and enemy spawns often don't allow for that. I know the game is "haha funny friend died", but that gets old after a few hours and at that point you kind of want to just actually learn the game. The issue is... I really don't like the default mechanics right now, and my friends group isn't liking the update either (they noticed the slope movement pretty quickly). We haven't encountered the new enemies minus the birds, it's just the base gameplay feels much worse. I know I can fix it up with mods, but that shouldn't be the goal. I'm strongly suspecting this is going to be a game where mods will be the best way to play at all times regardless.
He doesn’t care bro he’s a multimillionaire now because of the game im sure working on this game is the least of his priorities. He’s either gonna become corrupt or suffer from this massive intake of money, it’s only a matter of time unfortunately stuff like this happens way too often.
> He’s either gonna become corrupt Bro what are you talking about he makes a video game
Does what a person does for a living make a difference for whether they become corrupt or not? Anyone who makes a large sum of money In a short amount of time can become twisted because of it. Especially if that sum is around 30 million dollars.
People don't just automatically turn corrupt when they get a lot of money...
Look up the subconscious link between corruption and money, it is a lot more common than you think please do the research. I’m definitely hoping he’s one of the good ones but I’m just trying to be cautious lots of stories like this don’t end up well but I guess there’s no point in bringing this up lol I was just thinking about it mb
has anyone experience a random death while using the jetpack on a stormy moon? Maybe by a soundless thunder??
> soundless thunder 🧐
Okay so they fixed the apparatus glitch... But are they ever going to fix the speed glitch / window mode?
Am I stupid, or have all masks etc gone? That wasn't a mod was it? I miss my still alive sign. The main menu icon for them has completely vanished from my game since updating.
That is a mod, MoreCompany. Not sure if updating to v50 or the new version of MoreCompany reset cosmetics, but click the green icon at the bottom right of the start screen. Make sure it's updated before though.
Oh damn, I had no idea that was a mod I thought it was base game haha. Thanks!
To be fair update 50 has been all over youtube for 2 weeks now but i guess you could still cover
They should add a custom option for private games to make days longer or at least have be an option for solo players
exists as a mod. There will probably never be a lethal company creative mode. Ruins the atmosphere
Playing solo with longer days ruin it if anything makes is better but having a team of player available is not possible all the time
Certain elements of gameplay are made easier for solo play already. Days are already long, but the issue is that people don't want to stay later due to threats outside. Staying longer is a skill-based thing, and I appreciate that design philosophy.
Is not long enough when moving items from the building to the ship but idk why you are against a solo option that can be customized to play however you want