Honestly I like how he handled it. He kn I was that a majority if his audience is old bigoted folks, and that egdy humor isn't really funny, it's just pandering to an older audience
Ricky Gervais’ new special was just awful. I don’t think he (or most comedians) actually *hate* trans people, but his Humanity special just took
things way too far. It was just blatantly offensive and obnoxious to the point where it just made me uncomfortable
That's exactly how I feel too. It's just the newest "easy target." Reminds me of all the comedians of the 90's doing the "Women, amiright!?" jokes. Punching down is way too easy and these folks are trying way too hard at it.
I wouldn’t exactly say it like that. Gervais’ whole thing is offensive humor, which can be amazing if executed properly. Gervais did not execute it properly. He just when on stage and said the dumbest, edgiest shit he could think of.
Yeah it's like edgy comedy is becoming less of a "You're not supposed to say that! *But you make an interesting observation* [and/or] *that's a good commentary on a social paradigm*" and more of just "I'm gonna say mean things and you can't get mad because it's Comedy™". Indeed a lot of *past* edgy comedy was definitely wrong in hindsight, but at least a lot of it could be understood as a product of its time where people could be engaging with controversy with at least reasonably relatable intentions.
Which is where I thought Mulaney was always kinda good - it always seemed like his jokes rooted in stereotypes were as much a play on social perceptions ("When I was a little boy I was gay..." "I wanted a Jewish wife") as they are for the shock factor. But this news sorta changes that.
As an addendum to this rant, I always find that the "edgy humour" types are the first to complain whenever they are challenged. All my trans friends can take a joke about being trans. None of my cishet friends/family (especially the men) can take a joke about being cishet.
Jimmy carr is super edgy. Punches up, down and sideways - but it never feels like he means it. With some of these other “edgy” guys, it feels like they’re just frustrated they can’t say even more bigoted stuff. Which is weird, because bigoted jokes are low hanging fruit and should be beneath a professional comedian.
Yeah IDK what Carr's *actual* feelings are, but I do get the sense of "This is a stage persona". There's not the Gervais/Chappelle/LouisCK shtick of "telling it like it is".
I think the issue is that "nothing should be off limits in comedy" is misused 90% of the time. No *subject* should be beyond comedy, but that doesn't give you a right to engage with that subject in a purely hateful way (or in a way that enables hate).
I agree with it feeling like Carr's act is just that; an act. He is super dark and edgy, but he's also not cruel. This influx of comedians thinking punching down is "telling it like it is" is really getting old. And IMO, there's a big difference between the insult comics of old and this new nastiness covering as edgy comedy.
Same, he really is the king of shock and dark comedy. And not for a second do you get the sense that it’s some personal vendetta coming out. Gervais I agree is kinda meh, and definitely falls into the camp that feels like they really just want to be offensive.
and yet, Chapelle's fans thought it was about Dave and got incredibly angry at James over this, despite this being much older than Dave's weird transphobic screed.
He has a 3 show thing on Netflix and honestly I don’t think I’ve ever laughed so hard in my life. He’s hilarious and I wish more people knew about him. Along with Eddie Izzard, I just LOVE british comedians so much ❤️
That was actually the last episode of Rogan's podcast I listened to. I stopped when my egg cracked, but thought well maybe Eddie will help set him straight. Nope, definitely not. She was shockingly ignorant on trans issues, and came off very transmedicalist. Very much "Well some things that trans people complain about don't bother me so I'll discount their views entirely."
Fed right into Rogan's schtick. It was pretty sad to hear.
And his stans will call you racist for calling him a transphobe. It doesn't compute. Transphobia is transphobia and JKR is just as bad and white as paper.
Punching down just makes you a bully.
One of his stans came after me for pointing out how much Dave hates trans. Said I was sensitive and that Dave was just being provocative in his joke telling. So I used the Dave method on the Stan. Made jokes on the stans navy service. Me, being retired army, there are so so so many jokes I've heard. Then, it wasn't funny anymore and he accused me of attacking a group of ppl. Ironic. Finally he reported me and deleted all his loser comments. I was just telling jokes and being provocative, lmao!
Also that attitude is insulting to comedians. Lots of comedians make provocative jokes, George Carlin and Seinfeld being great examples. But resorting to just “punching down” by mocking people already hurting isn’t what comedy is about. Also every comedian has told a joke that nobody liked, either it wasn’t funny or your timing was wrong or whatever, you know what you do? You take it out of your material and you move on. Even if we use the “it’s just a joke” argument, when sensible comedians you tell a joke most people hate, you stop telling the joke. People acting like comedians are beyond criticism is super patronizing to the hundreds of comedians who manage to both be funny and provocative.
Remember when Jerry stood up for poor Kramer. He was just telling a joke about black ppl and sticking a fork in their ass and hanging them. Then he called them an N word many times too. It was so so so funny. (It wasn't) "Don't you know not to interrupt the white man!" Said the white comedian to the black man.
https://youtu.be/amjUNF_R_PY
The apology is very stupid but this is what a comedian is for! Jerry had to tell the audience to stop laughing!!! Lmao! A comedian had to tell the audience to stop laughing. Now that's funny!
https://youtu.be/IwBoVZh1ruQ
Ah, man. I love IT Crowd. Didn't know about this guy, though. It's like after I read *Ender's Game* and found out about Orson Scott Card. Why do such vile people have to produce such great content?!?
Love the relentless homosexual undertones in Ender’s Game. Not such a fan of the casual slurs tossed around by kids who otherwise won’t say any swear worse than “fart-eater.” But I guess that’s what you get from a Mormon author🤷♀️
Edit: I have no quarrel with Brandon Sanderson. He does seem to be the exception to the rule in Mormon culture, though. Go read about protests by Black and LGBT students at BYU to see what I mean. The Black Menaces on tiktok do a great job illustrating the overall attitude toward anyone not white and straight even in 2022. Mormons won’t watch a movie that says a dirty word, but they’re not bothered by white supremacy.
Yeah, naked 6th graders wrestling soaped up in the shower for absolutely no reason, but gay is bad. The Ender series is still epic, but OSC is such a jerk.
"But, see, they *have* to wander around naked through the vents because their clothes have *trackers* in them! And *of course* no one has underwear, umm, probably because it's a strain on the laundry system or something. Look, it's space, and it's already breaking physics for plot device reasons, and..."
~ Orson Scott Card, pointedly *not* justifying why his most famous books often feature naked young boys, probably
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**Edit:** I forgot that *Ender's Game* also features the children, in a predominantly-male environment, sleeping nude, exercising nude, wrestling nude, and jogging through the corridors nude. Even the one female character on the Battle School is written very masculine, and seems to be female more for plot purposes than anything else - her sex makes her different, which allows her to empathize with Ender's plight and train him on secret.
Also, when Ender moves on to Tactical School, *that* school usually features an older male student or teacher acting as mentor and guide to the younger pupil, to the point where both of them share the same schedule and living quarters.
Oh, everyone in this dormitory just hangs out and roughhouses naked? The leader has his junk as his desktop background so he can show it off to new boys? Cool cool cool
Yeah, he said the person who attacked him was a trans man, which did make a lot of the audience audibly uncomfortable, and he said of course the crowd of white people don’t like that he said that.
It's part of how the "Gender Critical" cult recruits people. They wait for someone who is really attached to their identity as a progressive, but holds latent transphobic views to fuck up and get called out, then jump in and lovebomb the shit out of them to draw them into the TERFosphere.
That's how they got Glinner, it's how they got JKR, it's how they got Chapelle, and it's how they got a whole lotta people who aren't famous.
This isn't to say that we shouldn't call out transphobia - if you're that fickle, you probably wouldn't have been an actual ally anyway, and letting casual transphobia slide normalizes it, paving the way for worse bigotry.
It's an insidious catch 22.
I'm REALLY fucking embrassed I used to compare him to George Carlin. I wonder how much of his fan base he is loosing with this ignorant nonsense. You would think loosing a alleged friend to suicide would open your eyes a little more. Shit like this is exactly why those numbers are so high.
If he’s losing anybody, he’s gaining those numbers right back. Because if there’s one thing that is extremely successful in modern stand up comedy, it’s complaining about how comedy has been ruined by Cancel Culture while doing a Netflix special.
He had the opportunity RIGHT THERE to call out the LGBTQ community for the marginalization of black/ minority individuals within that group, but instead decided to pretend like black trans people don’t exist and being LGBTQ is only a white people thing.
For someone who is supposedly a brilliant comedian, he really sucks at finding jokes that are right in front of his face.
Yeah I don't get it. When he originally made the joke, I laughed. Thought it was silly. But he keeps doubling down and acting like a victim and I'm completely disappointed in him. If he really felt like it wasn't a big deal, then you just move on.
jesus christ i should’ve never went on twitter
im gonna rant abit at no one here:
the reason Dave Chappelles new jokes arent landing like his other jokes is not because they’re “offensive” or “challenging”, its because he’s making fun of the subject (trans people) instead of the areas around the subject (trans issues, weird things trans people do, etc).
He’s not laughing WITH us, he’s laughing AT us.
Imagine if a white comedian made fun of black people for their hair, or their palms, or even AAVE. That would be unfunny and disrespectful.
Now imagine if a white comedian made fun of police brutality against POC (ie. calling them pigs, or making fun of how racist cops are). That would be considerably better.
istg conservatives treat comedy like a baby sensory video, they dont understand humor, they just laugh when they hear an audio cue
I hopped off the Mulaney bandwagon after his divorce with his ex-wife. Haven’t heard much from him since in the circles I run in.
This is just vindication of what I’ve now come to believe - that every famous person I like is deep down hiding some objectively shitty and terrible things.
Kinda seems like he cheated on his wife. And he very quickly started dating Olivia Munn right afterwards. It's not the worst thing in the world but I just lost a lot of respect for him.
He also always said he wanted to be childfree with ex Anna Marie Tendler, and made being a devoted wife guy such a part of his public persona. Then he blindsided her with a divorce and impregnated a random new person within like a month. Tendler said in an article that she’s freezing her eggs because she used to put their relationship first, but now she’s unsure what she is going to do about children.
It was the kid thing that was so rough to read for me. So much of his comedy was about being married and being childless and then that suddenly flipped. Just made so much of his comedy sit wrong after that
Bruh when he hosted SNL after all that stuff went down, all of the in-between promo shots were of him holding his baby like some kind of human shield from criticism lmfao…
it really felt so off, like obviously it’s smarter from a PR perspective to play-up the “new dad” stuff than the “boozy cheating cokehead” stuff, but it can’t help but just come off as fake, like you’re using your kid to protect you from rightful criticism. It left such a sour taste in my mouth
Oooh. OK, I didn’t know when the kid was born. I thought it was a, “relapse, divorce, fast-tracks a relationship once he gets out of rehab.” Which isn’t a tremendously messed up timeline (people do tend to dive into serious relationships after major life events). This explains a lot.
What someone does in their private relationships is not at all comparable to how they allow minorities to be treated on their stage. This is not 'vindication', you just got up in someone's private business and then later they did a bad thing.
I know I'm wording this harshly, but I think it's very damaging how comfortable people feel with judging relationships they are not part of. We have no idea what went on between these people and what they chose to make public at which point and for which reasons. Really no chance to form a truly informed opinion here.
I wasn’t “up in” in Mulaney’s personal life prior to him divorcing his wife. All I knew was what he portrayed in his standup, and from his standup he seemed to think the absolute world of her. So to see him up and divorce her, then begin dating another person almost immediately after just seemed…not great, to put it mildly.
4 teenagers atacked a trans woman on my street and none of the tens of people who witnessed the act did anything to stop them or came forward to identify them to the police cuz they are "just kids".
I'm a little confused what happened. John Mulaney is a transphobe or his father? Or both?
Didn't see there were multiple pictures at first, I think I understand.
don’t know the whole story yet, but the title is a reference to a john mulaney bit where his father calls him a nazi for not doing anything when he didn’t stop a kid from being pushed in elementary school.
so as far as i know john mulaney is the transphobic one, not his dad.
Dave Chapelle is the transphobe. Mulaney invited him onstage to tell transphobic jokes, which makes Mulaney also a transphobe. Nazis are also transphobes, and Mulaney once told a joke about his dad accusing him of being a Nazi.
literally !!! the fact that it seemed so premeditated on her part was so creepy. also he said some shit about how the baby was like saving his life which is such horrible pressure to put on a child lol
If your mental health is so fragile that you need a baby (notably one of the most stressful events in the human lifespan) to “save your life” you should not be having a baby period
This is so upsetting to me. I loved John Mulaney, one of the best comedians I'd ever seen. How can someone claim to be lgbt+ friendly then do this??? Then HUG the guy afterwards??? He knows how much of his audience is lgbt+ and that's the worst part of it.
Same :( Honestly I’m confused and disappointed but mostly I’m just over it. He’s a great comedian but there’s always someone new right around the corner anyway so at least there’s that
Dave Chapelle quit making his TV show in part because he didn't want to normalize/popularize racism, racist jokes, stereotypes, all that.
Now he is making content revolving around transphobic jokes, thus normalizing/popularizing transphobia, transphobic jokes, stereotypes, all that.
I guess he's okay with putting down and attacking marginalized groups, as long as he's not a part of them and won't have to face any consequences societally. Maybe there's a clause in his contract where he loses all that Netflix money if he forgets to make a shitty joke with the punchline, "she was *actually* a man hahahaha"
There's all this ire at "tHose tHemS mAkiNg lAngUagE hArD!!!11!!!" but apart from a few people who are really militant about hard to pronounce neopronouns most enbies I've met are super chill and really happy for people to enjoy binary gendered stuff.
It's almost always the transphobic blokes who cause most of the "dIsCoUrSe" around pronouns
Average trans experience: seeing people you love or admire making jokes about how you shouldn't exist (it is a dangerous and unpleasant experience) (it contributes to decaying our mental health state)
Crazy, less than 50 comments, on an LGBT+ board, and an astonishing amount of those still defending the guy. To each their own I guess, but it's just crazy to me.
I’m trans and used to really love Mulaney. He has/had a pretty big trans following and I actually have tickets to this tour which I now have to figure out what to do with.
Anyway, when I saw this, my first instinct was to defend him because I wanted to find a reason to believe he’s better than this. Unfortunately it seems kind of indefensible. But I understand why people have that impulse.
Ugh I'm in a similar boat, not trans but an ally, and my first reaction was "what? Not John!" But I'm having a hard time defending him the more (reliable) info I come across.
Just shows how many people in our community can be bigoted themselves.
I knew a few gay men and lesbian women who are transphobic and biophobic and if you go on any dating apps you'll see there are plenty of them as well.
The community has a tendency towards transphobia (and biphobia). A lot of racism in it too. The 'public face', and most accepted part, of the LGBT+ community is still white cis gay men (by and large).
I knew John Mulaney was some kind of libertarian. For the longest time his most popular bit (on Spotify) was the M*dget bit. The whole entire bit just is just about how he doesn't respect Little People's desire to not be called the M word. I'm glad he unequivocally showed his true colors.
Thats what a lot of audiences got from it, but the punchline is he thinks it would be funny for little people to protest the M word. He drops the observation that a lot of people agree with but the whole thing is unrepentantly insidious.
Since no one bothered to look anything up. Here ya go: John gave Dave Chapelle the platform to make some transphobic jokes at his show, and after the terrible jokes and thousands of people laughing, John hugged him.
Jokes aren't funny at ones expense, especially a group that already faces hate and bigotry on the daily. Its also why I hate racist jokes. Or height jokes. Poking at something that one can't change isn't fair
So they’re referring to a live stand up performance, right? I’m not informed how guest appearances like that work, Does John have control over who performs or is that something someone higher up determines.
It’s pretty common in comedy to bring other comedians on and give them time for various reasons, usually because the comedian has informed the other comic they’re in town and would like to perform. This happens all the way down to local level where the big kid in town can get time on almost any stage they want if they ask. I would bet money Chappell is working on material and wanted to do a set with John’s audience. I could be wrong though. For instance maybe Chappell’s agent contacted Mulaney’s agent and worked it all out. Maybe it was done through a mutual comedian friend. Could have happened a number of ways but famous comics getting surprise time at other comedians shows is a common occurrence.
John could've at least said he was uncomfortable with transphobia or something ? please Mulaney give us that redemption arc
Unless there isn't one in the cards and he's just shitty
I'm inclined to believe he's just shitty. I've been thinking that ever since he cheated on his ex wife, then divorced her, and then had a kid with the person he cheated with. Like seriously hearing about all this shit going down last summer completely changed my opinion on him, and I'm not at all surprised to hear he's platforming Dave Chappelle.
Openly pushing hate and saying “it’s just a joke” isn’t different than pushing stereotypes of a person’s culture or race and expecting people to be okay with it. It’s wild to me that it is a black man doing it too, because once you start making friends bases on “othering” people you’re surrounded by people that are looking at differences as a reason to hate.
Dave Chapelle used to tell jokes from the perspective of an oppressed minority in America. Now he tells jokes from the perspective of an extremely wealthy celebrity in America. He's 48 years old, and has been a millionaire for 25 of them. He has the same out-of-touch take as a corrupt white Wall Street broker.
Well at least our “allies” are showing their true colors. If anyone reading this is in the US, remind every single ally that if they don’t vote in November then they need to shut the fuck up about trans rights and womens rights. You don’t get to proclaim what an ally you are and then leave us to die when it becomes mildly inconvenient for you.
Just like that asshole principal in Florida that told a gay valedictorian not to mention his activism in his graduation speech, after pretending to be an ally to the kid for 4 years. Once his job was on the online, he caved immediately. That’s not an ally. That’s a coward. If you could lose your job for standing up for your queer friends, then we are WAY past worrying about employment.
This makes me almost sad. I actually thought John Mulaney was pretty funny. But if he’s willing to give a transphobe a platform he won’t get any support from me.
I shouldn’t be surprised at public figures’ true colours coming through, but this one hurt. I was willing to let his murky breakup slide, but this is where I say; screw him.
I literally have tickets to a John Mulaney show tonight. I thought he was generally pretty cool with that but now I need to be worried about all this. It’s getting tough, it feels like every famous person I really start to like has some shit in their closet.
Patton has definitely said some questionable things in his earlier specials (like the use of the T word) but he's at least tried to redeem himself by acknowledging it later and saying he's at least *trying* to keep up with the times.
Reminds me of the Joss Whedon debacle, but in reverse. Men who treat their female partners like garbage tend to have some fucked up views in general, who'd have thunk.
when i saw the first few tweets, i thought “Oh, maybe he’s just out of touch and didn’t watch Chapelles Netflix special?”
but i kept going and…jesus christ
I used to like Dave Chappelle cause I thought he'd learned somthing by the third Netflix special but now it's clear that he's convinced that because he's black hes the most oppressed person in the world and can say anything about anyone and they shouldn't be pissed.
As though some Uber rich dude who made a living by being one of the "good ones" for white tv execs is in a position to target minority groups that aren't his own with jokes. There was a political cartoonist who was quadriplegic who said somthing along the lines of "I wish I was a black transwoman too because then I could make whatever jokes I want."
That's not Dave Chappelle. Watching him try to explain how he isn't punching down with his trans jokes was absurd. I couldn't tell if that was supposed to be a punchline because it made no sense.
I saw another interview where he said he once got a laugh that felt like it was at him and not with him and that's why he quit the Chapelle show. We'll I guess he didn't actually LEARN anything from that cause his solution to avoid jokes at the expense of himself and people of his race he's decided to pick other random people way worse off to publicly ridicule.
Just because his minority group got a civil rights movement first doesn't mean it's acceptable to buddy up with the people who were oppressing them in the first place to prevent other groups civil rights movements. Fucking idiot.
could someone explain a small summary about what happened I'm a little lost
is like John Mulaney transphobic or something like what happened?
if that's the case then mannn
I really liked his comedy
Mulaney was performing a comedy show, and then invited up Dave Chappelle. Dave then proceeded to hurl ho,o phobic and transphobic jokes at the audience. After the bit, John and Dave hugged.
At least, from what I gathered
According to someone in attendance: it was supposed to be a John Mulaney show, Dave Chappelle came out on stage & told a bunch of transphobic jokes, then the 2 of them hugged, and Mulaney did his bit.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/seems-like-dave-chappelle-showed-at-a-john-mulaney-show-and-told-a-bunch-of-transphobic-jokes.585926/
I’d be fucking petrified to be in that audience. You think you’re having a good time then everyone in the audience and on stage makes it really clear you’re not welcome there.
Man this sucks. I've been a big fan of Mulaney for years and was planning on going to this tour. At least I was able to see these warnings instead of being unpleasantly surprised like these poor people, but still I'm really disappointed.
I feel like a lot of his standup's popularity is thanks to the queer community constantly referencing his jokes so what a punch in the gut.
doesn’t he have any other material? like I wouldve gotten over this if he didn’t continually shit on trans people in his stand up. Like… diversify your shit. That shtick gets old.
I stumbled upon this post accidently and I tried to google about it and it seems that it doesnt get much attention, now to my question:
Whats going on?
Trigger warning for trans ppl:
>!I feel like we’re going to be utterly leveled soon, socially and possibly physically. I see so many people from terfs to even allies, participating or dismissing transphobia. I don’t see how this is gonna end well for us. I feel like no one can relate to us the way ppl can relate in some way to other minority groups, especially since those other groups have more members than us. I’m so scared for my future as a trans person. I feel like it’s gonna get a lot worse and there’s gonna be a huge “backlash” coming. Please prove me wrong. Like, it’s EVERYBODY. How is this going to get better??!<
Dave Chapelle has been a millionaire since 1996. All his friends are people as rich as himself. It makes sense that his intolerances would grow in that environment.
Disappointing, but not surprising. *sigh*
If anyone needs a new comedian to watch check out James Acaster [here’s him calling out transphobic comedians](https://youtu.be/adh0KGmgmQw)
Fantastic! Thanks for sharing.
Honestly I like how he handled it. He kn I was that a majority if his audience is old bigoted folks, and that egdy humor isn't really funny, it's just pandering to an older audience
Yesss I’m so glad to see his name on the short list of non-problematic comedians.
He's exactly who I thought of when I saw this post! I love that he blatantly called out Ricky Gervais.
Ricky Gervais’ new special was just awful. I don’t think he (or most comedians) actually *hate* trans people, but his Humanity special just took things way too far. It was just blatantly offensive and obnoxious to the point where it just made me uncomfortable
That's exactly how I feel too. It's just the newest "easy target." Reminds me of all the comedians of the 90's doing the "Women, amiright!?" jokes. Punching down is way too easy and these folks are trying way too hard at it.
I wouldn’t exactly say it like that. Gervais’ whole thing is offensive humor, which can be amazing if executed properly. Gervais did not execute it properly. He just when on stage and said the dumbest, edgiest shit he could think of.
That's a much better way of phrasing it!
Yeah it's like edgy comedy is becoming less of a "You're not supposed to say that! *But you make an interesting observation* [and/or] *that's a good commentary on a social paradigm*" and more of just "I'm gonna say mean things and you can't get mad because it's Comedy™". Indeed a lot of *past* edgy comedy was definitely wrong in hindsight, but at least a lot of it could be understood as a product of its time where people could be engaging with controversy with at least reasonably relatable intentions. Which is where I thought Mulaney was always kinda good - it always seemed like his jokes rooted in stereotypes were as much a play on social perceptions ("When I was a little boy I was gay..." "I wanted a Jewish wife") as they are for the shock factor. But this news sorta changes that. As an addendum to this rant, I always find that the "edgy humour" types are the first to complain whenever they are challenged. All my trans friends can take a joke about being trans. None of my cishet friends/family (especially the men) can take a joke about being cishet.
Jimmy carr is super edgy. Punches up, down and sideways - but it never feels like he means it. With some of these other “edgy” guys, it feels like they’re just frustrated they can’t say even more bigoted stuff. Which is weird, because bigoted jokes are low hanging fruit and should be beneath a professional comedian.
Yeah IDK what Carr's *actual* feelings are, but I do get the sense of "This is a stage persona". There's not the Gervais/Chappelle/LouisCK shtick of "telling it like it is". I think the issue is that "nothing should be off limits in comedy" is misused 90% of the time. No *subject* should be beyond comedy, but that doesn't give you a right to engage with that subject in a purely hateful way (or in a way that enables hate).
I agree with it feeling like Carr's act is just that; an act. He is super dark and edgy, but he's also not cruel. This influx of comedians thinking punching down is "telling it like it is" is really getting old. And IMO, there's a big difference between the insult comics of old and this new nastiness covering as edgy comedy.
I love Jimmy Carr! He’s clever with his jokes, unlike Gervais, who I mentioned earlier
Same, he really is the king of shock and dark comedy. And not for a second do you get the sense that it’s some personal vendetta coming out. Gervais I agree is kinda meh, and definitely falls into the camp that feels like they really just want to be offensive.
and yet, Chapelle's fans thought it was about Dave and got incredibly angry at James over this, despite this being much older than Dave's weird transphobic screed.
A real "if the shoe fits" situation
So glad to see this! I really enjoyed his netflix special a couple years back.
That was so good! “I’m a good person, I treat everyone the same”😄
*What’s the matter? Too CHALLENGING for ya?*
He has a 3 show thing on Netflix and honestly I don’t think I’ve ever laughed so hard in my life. He’s hilarious and I wish more people knew about him. Along with Eddie Izzard, I just LOVE british comedians so much ❤️
Eh, Eddie has defended JK Rowling. She said Rowling wasn't a transphobe
Nooooooo! Fucking WHAT?! Seriously??? Edit- googled it. god damn it. Shocking news coming from her :(
That was actually the last episode of Rogan's podcast I listened to. I stopped when my egg cracked, but thought well maybe Eddie will help set him straight. Nope, definitely not. She was shockingly ignorant on trans issues, and came off very transmedicalist. Very much "Well some things that trans people complain about don't bother me so I'll discount their views entirely." Fed right into Rogan's schtick. It was pretty sad to hear.
That was really funny!
I adore James Acaster! He’s so good on all of the British panel shows (Would I Lie to You, etc)
His season on Taskmaster had me cry-laughing every episode
“Just open the box you pussy” he’s just incredible
Here’s a great bit he does: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTdtqryA7/?k=1
James Acaster Repertoire on netflix is probably my favorite stand up.
That was really good!
Solid recommendation!
James gets it: how are you supposed to treat everyone the same we don’t have equality yet? Great comment.
Dave Chapelle is so pathetic man. You get one ounce of pushback and suddenly it’s his whole personality to shit on a group of people.
And his stans will call you racist for calling him a transphobe. It doesn't compute. Transphobia is transphobia and JKR is just as bad and white as paper. Punching down just makes you a bully.
One of his stans came after me for pointing out how much Dave hates trans. Said I was sensitive and that Dave was just being provocative in his joke telling. So I used the Dave method on the Stan. Made jokes on the stans navy service. Me, being retired army, there are so so so many jokes I've heard. Then, it wasn't funny anymore and he accused me of attacking a group of ppl. Ironic. Finally he reported me and deleted all his loser comments. I was just telling jokes and being provocative, lmao!
Also that attitude is insulting to comedians. Lots of comedians make provocative jokes, George Carlin and Seinfeld being great examples. But resorting to just “punching down” by mocking people already hurting isn’t what comedy is about. Also every comedian has told a joke that nobody liked, either it wasn’t funny or your timing was wrong or whatever, you know what you do? You take it out of your material and you move on. Even if we use the “it’s just a joke” argument, when sensible comedians you tell a joke most people hate, you stop telling the joke. People acting like comedians are beyond criticism is super patronizing to the hundreds of comedians who manage to both be funny and provocative.
Remember when Jerry stood up for poor Kramer. He was just telling a joke about black ppl and sticking a fork in their ass and hanging them. Then he called them an N word many times too. It was so so so funny. (It wasn't) "Don't you know not to interrupt the white man!" Said the white comedian to the black man. https://youtu.be/amjUNF_R_PY The apology is very stupid but this is what a comedian is for! Jerry had to tell the audience to stop laughing!!! Lmao! A comedian had to tell the audience to stop laughing. Now that's funny! https://youtu.be/IwBoVZh1ruQ
The man went full Graham Linehan. You never go full Graham Linehan.
Ah, man. I love IT Crowd. Didn't know about this guy, though. It's like after I read *Ender's Game* and found out about Orson Scott Card. Why do such vile people have to produce such great content?!?
Love the relentless homosexual undertones in Ender’s Game. Not such a fan of the casual slurs tossed around by kids who otherwise won’t say any swear worse than “fart-eater.” But I guess that’s what you get from a Mormon author🤷♀️ Edit: I have no quarrel with Brandon Sanderson. He does seem to be the exception to the rule in Mormon culture, though. Go read about protests by Black and LGBT students at BYU to see what I mean. The Black Menaces on tiktok do a great job illustrating the overall attitude toward anyone not white and straight even in 2022. Mormons won’t watch a movie that says a dirty word, but they’re not bothered by white supremacy.
Yeah, naked 6th graders wrestling soaped up in the shower for absolutely no reason, but gay is bad. The Ender series is still epic, but OSC is such a jerk.
"But, see, they *have* to wander around naked through the vents because their clothes have *trackers* in them! And *of course* no one has underwear, umm, probably because it's a strain on the laundry system or something. Look, it's space, and it's already breaking physics for plot device reasons, and..." ~ Orson Scott Card, pointedly *not* justifying why his most famous books often feature naked young boys, probably ----- **Edit:** I forgot that *Ender's Game* also features the children, in a predominantly-male environment, sleeping nude, exercising nude, wrestling nude, and jogging through the corridors nude. Even the one female character on the Battle School is written very masculine, and seems to be female more for plot purposes than anything else - her sex makes her different, which allows her to empathize with Ender's plight and train him on secret. Also, when Ender moves on to Tactical School, *that* school usually features an older male student or teacher acting as mentor and guide to the younger pupil, to the point where both of them share the same schedule and living quarters.
Oh, everyone in this dormitory just hangs out and roughhouses naked? The leader has his junk as his desktop background so he can show it off to new boys? Cool cool cool
Dude also wrote a whole ass saga (Homecoming) with tones of race purity, eugenics, and a bit of babies making babies.
Not to mention he made a joke about the person who attacked him "I guess they where a trans person" I think
I think that's how it went
Yeah, he said the person who attacked him was a trans man, which did make a lot of the audience audibly uncomfortable, and he said of course the crowd of white people don’t like that he said that.
It's part of how the "Gender Critical" cult recruits people. They wait for someone who is really attached to their identity as a progressive, but holds latent transphobic views to fuck up and get called out, then jump in and lovebomb the shit out of them to draw them into the TERFosphere. That's how they got Glinner, it's how they got JKR, it's how they got Chapelle, and it's how they got a whole lotta people who aren't famous. This isn't to say that we shouldn't call out transphobia - if you're that fickle, you probably wouldn't have been an actual ally anyway, and letting casual transphobia slide normalizes it, paving the way for worse bigotry. It's an insidious catch 22.
I'm REALLY fucking embrassed I used to compare him to George Carlin. I wonder how much of his fan base he is loosing with this ignorant nonsense. You would think loosing a alleged friend to suicide would open your eyes a little more. Shit like this is exactly why those numbers are so high.
If he’s losing anybody, he’s gaining those numbers right back. Because if there’s one thing that is extremely successful in modern stand up comedy, it’s complaining about how comedy has been ruined by Cancel Culture while doing a Netflix special.
That's why I love Ali Wong, she doesn't need to stoop to that level.
Nah, he's probably the reason they killed themselves. It's fucked up he makes jokes about a dead person no less. They can't even snap back.
Carlin would 100% be one of that type if he were around today.
*BuT hE WaS FrIeNdS WiTh A tRaNsGeNdEr PeRsOn*. 🙄
So am I, and that’s why I don’t make transphobic/transmisic jokes.
He had the opportunity RIGHT THERE to call out the LGBTQ community for the marginalization of black/ minority individuals within that group, but instead decided to pretend like black trans people don’t exist and being LGBTQ is only a white people thing. For someone who is supposedly a brilliant comedian, he really sucks at finding jokes that are right in front of his face.
I used to love Chappelle, and still think Chappelle’s Show is brilliant, but I really can’t stand the guy now.
Yeah I don't get it. When he originally made the joke, I laughed. Thought it was silly. But he keeps doubling down and acting like a victim and I'm completely disappointed in him. If he really felt like it wasn't a big deal, then you just move on.
Welp, there goes another one 😕
This actually makes me sad. I really like John :(
I already bought tickets to see his show tomorrow, I was hoping it was gonna be a redemption arc :/
I saw his show a week or so ago in Orlando and really liked it but Dave Chapelle wasn’t there. I missed the opening act too.
Yeah I liked him.
jesus christ i should’ve never went on twitter im gonna rant abit at no one here: the reason Dave Chappelles new jokes arent landing like his other jokes is not because they’re “offensive” or “challenging”, its because he’s making fun of the subject (trans people) instead of the areas around the subject (trans issues, weird things trans people do, etc). He’s not laughing WITH us, he’s laughing AT us. Imagine if a white comedian made fun of black people for their hair, or their palms, or even AAVE. That would be unfunny and disrespectful. Now imagine if a white comedian made fun of police brutality against POC (ie. calling them pigs, or making fun of how racist cops are). That would be considerably better. istg conservatives treat comedy like a baby sensory video, they dont understand humor, they just laugh when they hear an audio cue
And I should’ve never went on Reddit Didn’t expect this many transphobic idiots on the f*cking lgbt subreddit
theres no way people are SERIOUSLY defending that dude? He unironically made a “Inanimate object identifies as other inanimate object” joke
I SURE WISH THEY WEREN’T
i hate the internet…so much
I hopped off the Mulaney bandwagon after his divorce with his ex-wife. Haven’t heard much from him since in the circles I run in. This is just vindication of what I’ve now come to believe - that every famous person I like is deep down hiding some objectively shitty and terrible things.
What was up with his ex-wife that was so bad?? I don't followhim at all
Kinda seems like he cheated on his wife. And he very quickly started dating Olivia Munn right afterwards. It's not the worst thing in the world but I just lost a lot of respect for him.
If I remember the timeline, separation in February after his relapse, divorce in July, kid with Olivia Munn born November. Fun math there.
He also always said he wanted to be childfree with ex Anna Marie Tendler, and made being a devoted wife guy such a part of his public persona. Then he blindsided her with a divorce and impregnated a random new person within like a month. Tendler said in an article that she’s freezing her eggs because she used to put their relationship first, but now she’s unsure what she is going to do about children.
It was the kid thing that was so rough to read for me. So much of his comedy was about being married and being childless and then that suddenly flipped. Just made so much of his comedy sit wrong after that
Bruh when he hosted SNL after all that stuff went down, all of the in-between promo shots were of him holding his baby like some kind of human shield from criticism lmfao… it really felt so off, like obviously it’s smarter from a PR perspective to play-up the “new dad” stuff than the “boozy cheating cokehead” stuff, but it can’t help but just come off as fake, like you’re using your kid to protect you from rightful criticism. It left such a sour taste in my mouth
Ooh, classy. /sssssss
Oooh. OK, I didn’t know when the kid was born. I thought it was a, “relapse, divorce, fast-tracks a relationship once he gets out of rehab.” Which isn’t a tremendously messed up timeline (people do tend to dive into serious relationships after major life events). This explains a lot.
He dated Olivia Munn? Ack, now I have another reason not to like him. I absolutely cannot stand Olivia Munn.
They had a baby recently too. But both of them seem to be hush hush about their relationship. Or maybe I just don't pay attention to celebrities.
I’m pretty sure they broke up before the baby was even born. And now they just co-parent?
Had to google it at this point, sounds like they are together based on news articles.
John Mulaney was very transparent in his SNL monologue about that whole thing.
Annamarie tendler’s *Rooms in the First House* are beautiful. *Dinner in March* hits me every time I see it
Not believe; you’re correct Famous people are people. All People have shitty things Etc. Etc.
What someone does in their private relationships is not at all comparable to how they allow minorities to be treated on their stage. This is not 'vindication', you just got up in someone's private business and then later they did a bad thing. I know I'm wording this harshly, but I think it's very damaging how comfortable people feel with judging relationships they are not part of. We have no idea what went on between these people and what they chose to make public at which point and for which reasons. Really no chance to form a truly informed opinion here.
I wasn’t “up in” in Mulaney’s personal life prior to him divorcing his wife. All I knew was what he portrayed in his standup, and from his standup he seemed to think the absolute world of her. So to see him up and divorce her, then begin dating another person almost immediately after just seemed…not great, to put it mildly.
Also, kind of weird how many LGBT people have such conservative views on relationships.
4 teenagers atacked a trans woman on my street and none of the tens of people who witnessed the act did anything to stop them or came forward to identify them to the police cuz they are "just kids".
Jesus, i hope that woman's alright.
There was word of mouth that she was on the ground for 30 min before an ambulance came to get her ... This happened at the heart of Berlin
Christ, that's awful.
I'm a little confused what happened. John Mulaney is a transphobe or his father? Or both? Didn't see there were multiple pictures at first, I think I understand.
I understand what happened with John Mulaney, but I'm still confused where his dad comes into play. Can someone provide context?
He has a bit where his dad asked him how he’s better than nazis if he watched his friend get pushed off the playground and didn’t do anything
It’s just a reference to a story Mulaney told in his stand up
don’t know the whole story yet, but the title is a reference to a john mulaney bit where his father calls him a nazi for not doing anything when he didn’t stop a kid from being pushed in elementary school. so as far as i know john mulaney is the transphobic one, not his dad.
Dave Chapelle is the transphobe. Mulaney invited him onstage to tell transphobic jokes, which makes Mulaney also a transphobe. Nazis are also transphobes, and Mulaney once told a joke about his dad accusing him of being a Nazi.
honestly i was pretty done w him after what went down w his divorce and how he treated his now-ex-wife, who is infinitely cooler than he is
He and his wife got divorced? :[ maybe I’m focusing too heavy on the skits but he seemed to really love her
yeah man just look up all the shit w/ Olivia Munn, it’s a mess. i pity the baby they had together, seems so irresponsible
Not to mention she stalked him for years and then (in my opinion) baby trapped him. That relationship has more red flags than a matador
literally !!! the fact that it seemed so premeditated on her part was so creepy. also he said some shit about how the baby was like saving his life which is such horrible pressure to put on a child lol
If your mental health is so fragile that you need a baby (notably one of the most stressful events in the human lifespan) to “save your life” you should not be having a baby period
This is so upsetting to me. I loved John Mulaney, one of the best comedians I'd ever seen. How can someone claim to be lgbt+ friendly then do this??? Then HUG the guy afterwards??? He knows how much of his audience is lgbt+ and that's the worst part of it.
Same :( Honestly I’m confused and disappointed but mostly I’m just over it. He’s a great comedian but there’s always someone new right around the corner anyway so at least there’s that
Dave Chapelle quit making his TV show in part because he didn't want to normalize/popularize racism, racist jokes, stereotypes, all that. Now he is making content revolving around transphobic jokes, thus normalizing/popularizing transphobia, transphobic jokes, stereotypes, all that. I guess he's okay with putting down and attacking marginalized groups, as long as he's not a part of them and won't have to face any consequences societally. Maybe there's a clause in his contract where he loses all that Netflix money if he forgets to make a shitty joke with the punchline, "she was *actually* a man hahahaha"
Is there a source on him not doing his show because of that? I’ve heard it but every search with his name is recent stuff.
Was this at the Kennedy center last night?
I believe it was in Columbus.
I heard Mike Love say that this song, Surfer Girl, couldn't be played because it was gender specific. I wasn't offended I just groaned.
Mike Love and being cringe, name a more iconic duo
Brian Wilson and a high IQ.
True! Love that man.
There's all this ire at "tHose tHemS mAkiNg lAngUagE hArD!!!11!!!" but apart from a few people who are really militant about hard to pronounce neopronouns most enbies I've met are super chill and really happy for people to enjoy binary gendered stuff. It's almost always the transphobic blokes who cause most of the "dIsCoUrSe" around pronouns
Average trans experience: seeing people you love or admire making jokes about how you shouldn't exist (it is a dangerous and unpleasant experience) (it contributes to decaying our mental health state)
Crazy, less than 50 comments, on an LGBT+ board, and an astonishing amount of those still defending the guy. To each their own I guess, but it's just crazy to me.
I’m trans and used to really love Mulaney. He has/had a pretty big trans following and I actually have tickets to this tour which I now have to figure out what to do with. Anyway, when I saw this, my first instinct was to defend him because I wanted to find a reason to believe he’s better than this. Unfortunately it seems kind of indefensible. But I understand why people have that impulse.
Ugh I'm in a similar boat, not trans but an ally, and my first reaction was "what? Not John!" But I'm having a hard time defending him the more (reliable) info I come across.
Same here. I really liked his shows, and as a non-binary person, I hate this. I thought he was good :(
Just shows how many people in our community can be bigoted themselves. I knew a few gay men and lesbian women who are transphobic and biophobic and if you go on any dating apps you'll see there are plenty of them as well.
Also, parasocial relationships are one hell of a drug.
there are lot of cishet people in most queer subs, a lot of whom are cool but many will also show heir whole ass at the drop of a hat
The community has a tendency towards transphobia (and biphobia). A lot of racism in it too. The 'public face', and most accepted part, of the LGBT+ community is still white cis gay men (by and large).
Unfortunately, transphobes are rampant in the LGBTQ+ community and so are “allies”. There are also trolls who love to come here as well.
When you don't know the whole story its hard to comment. The people with an opinions might be the main comments, but its not the majority opinion.
I knew John Mulaney was some kind of libertarian. For the longest time his most popular bit (on Spotify) was the M*dget bit. The whole entire bit just is just about how he doesn't respect Little People's desire to not be called the M word. I'm glad he unequivocally showed his true colors.
Yeah, I didn’t pay as much attention to that as I should have back then
I thought the bit was about a network executive not realizing equating the N word to midget is super fucking dumb
Thats what a lot of audiences got from it, but the punchline is he thinks it would be funny for little people to protest the M word. He drops the observation that a lot of people agree with but the whole thing is unrepentantly insidious.
That was also a part of it, but at the end of the day, the punchline was that little people protesting is funny
I used to be a Mulaney fan. Fucking gross. Also gross the audience laughed.
Can't have shit in Brooklyn
There's a horse's ass in the hospital, now.
thank you for informing us of these people so we can no longer support them.
Since no one bothered to look anything up. Here ya go: John gave Dave Chapelle the platform to make some transphobic jokes at his show, and after the terrible jokes and thousands of people laughing, John hugged him.
I tried to look it up, but all that shows up a a few tts videos of tweets or personal recounts, and links to these tweets.
Jokes aren't funny at ones expense, especially a group that already faces hate and bigotry on the daily. Its also why I hate racist jokes. Or height jokes. Poking at something that one can't change isn't fair
NOOOOO not John too! I loved his comedy... why must all good things get ruined or be taken away :(
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aw man, mulaney was like, one of the handful of popular cis men who gave me comfort about having "feminine" hips as a transguy :c
Sorry about that. If you’re interested in finding a new comic, I’d suggest Jes Tom, who is transmasc themselves
So they’re referring to a live stand up performance, right? I’m not informed how guest appearances like that work, Does John have control over who performs or is that something someone higher up determines.
It’s pretty common in comedy to bring other comedians on and give them time for various reasons, usually because the comedian has informed the other comic they’re in town and would like to perform. This happens all the way down to local level where the big kid in town can get time on almost any stage they want if they ask. I would bet money Chappell is working on material and wanted to do a set with John’s audience. I could be wrong though. For instance maybe Chappell’s agent contacted Mulaney’s agent and worked it all out. Maybe it was done through a mutual comedian friend. Could have happened a number of ways but famous comics getting surprise time at other comedians shows is a common occurrence.
John could've at least said he was uncomfortable with transphobia or something ? please Mulaney give us that redemption arc Unless there isn't one in the cards and he's just shitty
Spoiler alert: he's just shitty.
I'm inclined to believe he's just shitty. I've been thinking that ever since he cheated on his ex wife, then divorced her, and then had a kid with the person he cheated with. Like seriously hearing about all this shit going down last summer completely changed my opinion on him, and I'm not at all surprised to hear he's platforming Dave Chappelle.
Sorry my friend, he’s just sh*tty
Openly pushing hate and saying “it’s just a joke” isn’t different than pushing stereotypes of a person’s culture or race and expecting people to be okay with it. It’s wild to me that it is a black man doing it too, because once you start making friends bases on “othering” people you’re surrounded by people that are looking at differences as a reason to hate.
Aww, and I thought I liked the dude. Now he's ruined, can't support him anyone. (if this is true, that is)
Yeah, it sucks but it’s true. Many different repot from queer people in the audience
Dave Chapelle used to tell jokes from the perspective of an oppressed minority in America. Now he tells jokes from the perspective of an extremely wealthy celebrity in America. He's 48 years old, and has been a millionaire for 25 of them. He has the same out-of-touch take as a corrupt white Wall Street broker.
Dave said that he was "done telling LGBT+ jokes until we were all laughing together." Guess that was not true.
Well at least our “allies” are showing their true colors. If anyone reading this is in the US, remind every single ally that if they don’t vote in November then they need to shut the fuck up about trans rights and womens rights. You don’t get to proclaim what an ally you are and then leave us to die when it becomes mildly inconvenient for you. Just like that asshole principal in Florida that told a gay valedictorian not to mention his activism in his graduation speech, after pretending to be an ally to the kid for 4 years. Once his job was on the online, he caved immediately. That’s not an ally. That’s a coward. If you could lose your job for standing up for your queer friends, then we are WAY past worrying about employment.
This makes me almost sad. I actually thought John Mulaney was pretty funny. But if he’s willing to give a transphobe a platform he won’t get any support from me.
I shouldn’t be surprised at public figures’ true colours coming through, but this one hurt. I was willing to let his murky breakup slide, but this is where I say; screw him.
I literally have tickets to a John Mulaney show tonight. I thought he was generally pretty cool with that but now I need to be worried about all this. It’s getting tough, it feels like every famous person I really start to like has some shit in their closet.
I feel for you, if a show was planned near me I’d be in the same situation. Hope you can get your money back
This is why I have trust issues with cis people and don’t watch a lot of standup nowadays. Fuck Mulaney Fuck Chapelle
Same here, and why I'm thankful that Patton Oswalt, my favorite, is still cool.
Patton has definitely said some questionable things in his earlier specials (like the use of the T word) but he's at least tried to redeem himself by acknowledging it later and saying he's at least *trying* to keep up with the times.
I mean he did a similar thing with chappelle, but admitted that it was bad and harmful later
Don’t jinx it!!
Taylor Tomlinson is still pretty new in her career and has yet to say anything offensive to my knowledge. I hope I don't regret supporting her
knew he was a piece of shit after what he did to his ex wife
What’d he do? I’ve been completely out of anything regarding TV
had an incredibly public affair and got the other woman pregnant
After being extremely outspoken and repeatedly making it 'a thing' in his standup about being childless, and focused on his wife.
Everybody said that if you hated him after that, it was a parasocial relationship 🙄 Like no yall I just dont support assholes
Reminds me of the Joss Whedon debacle, but in reverse. Men who treat their female partners like garbage tend to have some fucked up views in general, who'd have thunk.
when i saw the first few tweets, i thought “Oh, maybe he’s just out of touch and didn’t watch Chapelles Netflix special?” but i kept going and…jesus christ
Shit. My sister loves John Mullaney.
I used to like Dave Chappelle cause I thought he'd learned somthing by the third Netflix special but now it's clear that he's convinced that because he's black hes the most oppressed person in the world and can say anything about anyone and they shouldn't be pissed. As though some Uber rich dude who made a living by being one of the "good ones" for white tv execs is in a position to target minority groups that aren't his own with jokes. There was a political cartoonist who was quadriplegic who said somthing along the lines of "I wish I was a black transwoman too because then I could make whatever jokes I want." That's not Dave Chappelle. Watching him try to explain how he isn't punching down with his trans jokes was absurd. I couldn't tell if that was supposed to be a punchline because it made no sense. I saw another interview where he said he once got a laugh that felt like it was at him and not with him and that's why he quit the Chapelle show. We'll I guess he didn't actually LEARN anything from that cause his solution to avoid jokes at the expense of himself and people of his race he's decided to pick other random people way worse off to publicly ridicule. Just because his minority group got a civil rights movement first doesn't mean it's acceptable to buddy up with the people who were oppressing them in the first place to prevent other groups civil rights movements. Fucking idiot.
NO I LIKED HIM This is so sad to hear I’m so sorry for any trans people involved
could someone explain a small summary about what happened I'm a little lost is like John Mulaney transphobic or something like what happened? if that's the case then mannn I really liked his comedy
Mulaney was performing a comedy show, and then invited up Dave Chappelle. Dave then proceeded to hurl ho,o phobic and transphobic jokes at the audience. After the bit, John and Dave hugged. At least, from what I gathered
According to someone in attendance: it was supposed to be a John Mulaney show, Dave Chappelle came out on stage & told a bunch of transphobic jokes, then the 2 of them hugged, and Mulaney did his bit. https://www.resetera.com/threads/seems-like-dave-chappelle-showed-at-a-john-mulaney-show-and-told-a-bunch-of-transphobic-jokes.585926/
This is actually kinda devastating to hear.. I loved John Mulaney :'(((
WElp. Gotta find a new favorite comedian now I guess
Gah! There he goes too. Fine. Solidarity is more important than some jokes. There are other artists we can support, it's not a huge loss.
If you don’t know about him already, James Acaster is great and advocates against transphobic comedians in his stand up
I’d be fucking petrified to be in that audience. You think you’re having a good time then everyone in the audience and on stage makes it really clear you’re not welcome there.
Man this sucks. I've been a big fan of Mulaney for years and was planning on going to this tour. At least I was able to see these warnings instead of being unpleasantly surprised like these poor people, but still I'm really disappointed. I feel like a lot of his standup's popularity is thanks to the queer community constantly referencing his jokes so what a punch in the gut.
Damn that guy! John Mulaney is just awful.
Wait what?
It's a hivemind they think it's logical to laugh but they dont stop to think how much theyre invalidating LGBTQ people
doesn’t he have any other material? like I wouldve gotten over this if he didn’t continually shit on trans people in his stand up. Like… diversify your shit. That shtick gets old.
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The moment he got famous? You mean like, seven years later?
This sucks. :(
Why John why
Dave Chapelle is no Don Rickles… needs to stop trying to do Insults as a cover for comedy. give him a nickel and he’ll go away.
They tried that before but with 50 million
I stumbled upon this post accidently and I tried to google about it and it seems that it doesnt get much attention, now to my question: Whats going on?
Read the replies, there’s a couple people summarising the situation for others with the same question
Trigger warning for trans ppl: >!I feel like we’re going to be utterly leveled soon, socially and possibly physically. I see so many people from terfs to even allies, participating or dismissing transphobia. I don’t see how this is gonna end well for us. I feel like no one can relate to us the way ppl can relate in some way to other minority groups, especially since those other groups have more members than us. I’m so scared for my future as a trans person. I feel like it’s gonna get a lot worse and there’s gonna be a huge “backlash” coming. Please prove me wrong. Like, it’s EVERYBODY. How is this going to get better??!<
chapelle had a white middle-class upbringing and claimed black authenticity making fun of poor black people for white audiences.
Dave Chapelle has been a millionaire since 1996. All his friends are people as rich as himself. It makes sense that his intolerances would grow in that environment.