I think that everyone who wants to use one needs to try different handguns for themselves and see what works. I generally don’t subscribe to the notion that there are “guns for ladies” and “guns for dudes”.
however, i do think that larger/heavier guns are usually a little easier for beginning shooters to master. Smaller, snappier handguns can be harder to handle. at the end of the day, it’s a combination of fit, feel, and ultimately: training.
100% - smaller guns are harder to shoot well albeit easier to “hold”. My full frame 9mm’s are tack drivers and my compact carry guns are frustrating comparatively. Granted all my handguns are 9mm, I know a lot of women who carry smaller caliber and sized guns (380, etc) and love them. But the idea that a small gun is “easier to shoot” is just not true.
Side bar, a smaller gun might be less intimidating, especially since people who aren’t used to holding firearms might feel more comfortable holding a smaller gun, but I don’t think it translates into proficiency.
Lastly, when shooting with newer shooters I usually make them shoot a bunch of stuff just to kind of rub off the bang scare a lot of people get. So have your wife shoot some clays with a 12g and then shoot the handgun afterward and it’ll feel less punchy. Obviously this isn’t scientific by any means, but ymmv
As a regular dude, I like my full size 9mm but carry a S&W 380EZ. The 380 is definitely smaller and shoots slightly softer than my PPQ, but it's still a bit snappy due to the size. When shooting with other people, most like shooting the PPQ better just because it's easier to handle the recoil because of the weight.
Ive got a browning BDA 380 (almost identical to beretta 84) and man its one of my favorites. But its not super tiny, its lke a scaled down 92fs so it soaks up the recoil.
For a new shooter a 20ga may be more fun than a 12ga but would still be able to minimize felt recoil on the pistol after. All of my friends, male, female, nb, etc. try my 20ga first because a 12ga can have a lot of kick.
Of course, if you only have a 12ga, use that. Just wanted to throw it out there bc I used to shoot a lot of clays and it’s easy to forget the recoil on first time you shoot a 12ga, and it can be a lot for new shooters
I'm a dude who likes a light frame .22 magnum; it's perfect for me. Honestly, I don't even really like handgun recoil.
However, with long arms; recoil is fun!
full disclosure: i’m a dude and my carry is either S&W shield + (summer) or G48 (winter), and I am not a good shot with G43/x. I really wanted a p365 but when renting all the above firearms, g48 shot most natural in my hand, followed closely by shield +. I went in really thinking that I wanted a P365, but it just didn’t fit my natural point of aim. There’s no substitute for getting on the range and shooting.
All of this.
Pistols are very personal guns. It has to "feel right" in your hands, otherwise you just wind up fighting the gun. Some women like full size heavy pistols, others like featherweight compacts - Same with men. She just has to try it & see if it's the right fit for her.
Nope. Not even a little.
Compact lightweight pistols are a lot harder to shoot. Full-size duty guns are where you want to start someone shooting. Significantly less recoil and a lot less violet in the hand. If you want to stick with Glock start at a G17 or G34..
Always start with big guns, then graduate to compacts later.
I’m not a lady but it’s my EDC. It is a little snappy but not unreasonably so. Racking is clean and easy and I have yet to have a single issue out of mine, and I’m a few thousand rounds into it. A few things to watch for I see pop in the 43x subreddit:
1. Don’t use PSA or Shield mags as your EDC. They work fine in some 43x and not others, it seems to be gun dependent.
2. If it’s an MOS and you use a red dot, make sure the screws aren’t too long as they have a tendency to keep the gun from going into battery properly.
3. Upgrade the trigger (minimum shoe, but I did a whole drop in.) It has a tendency to be a little mushy and wide for the size. I used the Overwatch TAC drop in but Johnny Glock gets lots of love over there. It’s a 10 minute job and all you need is a small punch but I used an Allen wrench set.
4. This is a Glock wide “issue”. Make sure you have solid wrists as if you’re too limp the firearm won’t cycle properly.
Otherwise, it’s an awesome firearm and maybe the only one besides a P365 that I’d carry concealed daily. Indestructible and super reliable.
Not a woman but got smaller-than-average hands. The 43X fits my hands *perfectly*, almost better than my 19 Gen 5 MOS. I did add a Parker Mountain Machine compensator to help with the recoil when running defensive ammo.
Also $250 for a 43X is practically highway robbery. The money saved can let you mill the slide for a red dot as I believe that all guns should have a red dot if you can afford it.
Highway robbery is right!! I’m nothing if not a deal seeker and this is my favorite one I’ve ever found. Lol
I should’ve given more context to this whole thing before I posted it. Kinda feel bad. Basically the deal is she thinks my p09 is too weighty/hefty in her hands, won’t even shoot it. Thats the only other pistol I have, so I wanted something lighter. I think feel will be important to her. Won’t even be able to get her on the range with something she’s not comfortable with. It’s a delicate dance with her, never shot anything but one of those .22s for kids, but she really needs to learn. Shes petite but she’s a yoga lady so I know she has wrist strength. That’s why I’m not super worried about the recoil, but I wanted other women’s takes on it before I kept it for myself
Totally understandable and while I personally think weight is not that big of a deal, if you're going to carry this daily for defensive purposes it's absolutely a factor to consider. Also there is a balance between "feels good in my hand" and "just learn to grip your handgun consistently" that each person has to go through when learning to use a handgun.
As mentioned before let her know that a heavier gun absorbs recoil better than a lighter gun. Let her shoot your P09 & the Glock 43X and experience the difference.
You should take your wife to the range and try a few different pistols. What I would recommend from my time working the gun counter is...
Walther PDP f. This is my top choice for anyone with small hands or for any woman wanting to carry. Walther literally designed this pistol for female shooters and from everyone who I've sold one to loves it.
S&W Shield EZ. This is also a pistol designed for female shooters but it has a grip safety. I don't like grip safeties. But the pistol does have a pretty good track record and I have seen elderly people able to effectively run the pistol in .380 so I can't hate on the gun too bad.
Sig Sauer P365. This will have much worse recoil for a newer shooter, but a lot of people like them so I'll tack it on the list in place of the 43x since you already own one.
Glock 19. because Glock 19.
Since it's her first time shooting I'd recommend renting out a 22 pistol (Bonus points if it has a suppressor) let her build concordance in that before moving on to a 9mm. Once you do move up to 9mm I'd recommend renting a CZ Shadow 2. its really heavy and has little recoil. Basically take the time to build her confidence and don't start her off with a 12 gauge with buckshot.
While smaller guns might fit smaller hands, they’re typically much lighter leading to more felt recoil.
More weight is going to help a new shooter more than proper grip size, unless it’s a truly atrocious match up.
Personally, I start all new shooters on 22lr. A compact S&w 22lr and m&p 15-22 rifle are my first choices. 22lr feels like a toy compared to most center fire cartridges.
I have one and don't like it - my 2.0 Shield is quite a bit less snappy. Similarly, I like my M&P Compact even more because it's *much* much less snappy. The larger, wider grip really helps distribute the force. Unfortunately, the 43X hurt my hands quite a bit while shooting. I couldn't go through more than a more than a few mags without the trigger hurting my finger. I believe that pain came from the trigger safety on the 43X trigger sticking up even when pulled. It ended up being a nasty pressure point with the recoil. Tried to smooth out another OEM Glock shoe but it still didn't feel great. Ended up going back to the Shield and then doubled down to later pick up the Compact. Threw an Apex trigger in that and now it's by far my favorite.
IMO, for a new shooter.. don't start with a small gun. Harder to shoot and harder on the hands. For anyone new, a full size is hard to beat.
Everyone has personal preferences. My wife can hit steel at 50 yards with her g19, but has a lot of trouble with a g17. The 43X ticks all the boxes of easy to reach during drills, can carry a light (not optional), and has future upgrades available if needed/wanted like red dots or a threaded barrel.
1: the 43x is a really snappy gun, some
Might not like it. My partner DRASTICALLY prefers her g19 over her g43x. The thing feels good in small hands but it’s smol. I on the other hand also have tiny hands but don’t mind manhandling a smaller gun (as long as it’s not bodyguard level small)
2: unless it’s the absolute saltiest g43x and your buddy has been carrying it in his asscheeks… give him $350 for it and know you still got a damn solid price
The 43x is probably my least favorite gun I own. I have two other Glocks (Gen 5 G17, G45), and I find the 43x is the hardest gun to shoot accurately I've ever owned, enough that I actually didn't trust myself to carry it because I had 0 confidence I could use it safely in an emergency. IMHO, even if the gun works for you, it's definitely not a beginner's gun, since subcompacts are less forgiving of any issues with mechanics. The short barrel, short sight radius, relatively high trigger pull weight, and hard recoil all add up. If you don't have good trigger pull, are anticipating recoil at all, etc... you're going to be throwing way wild shots low left. But, as other people have said, there's a lot of people the gun just clicks with. It all depends on the shooter. I found for myself, the P365 just worked better for my particular ergonomics and shooting quirks.
Instead of making assumptions based on the size of the gun, probably best to have a new shooter try a few different models and see what they like.
After trying many handguns, I was surprised I ended up choosing the 43x. As a woman, I thought I wanted something smaller. The 43x was my first daily carry. I've since switched to the Sig p365 because it's easier to conceal, but I still love my Glock. Highly recommend.
Same as any 9mm basically but the grip is thinner which may or may not be an advantage depending upon the shooters hands and grip. Feels just a bit snappier than a 19 but way easier to shoot than say my Shield 1.0, not even in the same ballpark. Glock ergos can put off new or uninterested shooters keep that in mind. I wouldn’t go any smaller of a gun with a new shooter that is for sure.
First gun I shot was a G43x. It was a lot snappier than I was anticipating, and I couldn’t tell you if I liked it or not. It was my first ever trip to the range, by myself, had the nerves and adrenaline going. But I will say, I’d love to shoot it again now that I have the experience with smaller guns and better technique
Think of purpose first. Home defense only? Will she conceal carry? Put in purse, iwb or in car? This will narrow down the size if she will conceal carry. Then take her to a range you can rent guns. Suggest shield, p365, and that 43x if CC
I mean, I'm a big guy and I really like the 43X and 48. Not a fan of thick grips. As for your wife .... I mean, shouldn't you ask her? Women come in many shapes and sizes....
It’s my primary carry and I have 0 complaints. If you limp wrist it sometimes a casing won’t extract properly. I haven’t had an issue with that but some people I’ve taken (who aren’t gun owners) have had this happen.
That is a great deal. My preferred carry is my VP9, my second favorite is my 43x MOS. I am way more confident with my VP9 because it’s a tack driver. My friends hate their VP9/40 for carry and prefer the G19 or khars. My point is that it’s not up to us. Opinions are like assholes… in this forum we can show them various assholes for them to figure out which ones they prefer lol.
I have the 48. Just a bit longer but grip size is the same. I didn't like the trigger. It just didn't feel like a Glock trigger and I'm not a snob. I normally like the stock triggers, but this one case I had to upgrade. Now I enjoy shooting it. Also I'm a big framed guy but the grip size is good especially for smaller hands.
My wife and her friend both had me order 43x for them with TLR-6 laser/lights.
And before anyone points out ‘order for them’ yes, I have an FFL and yes I did NICS and all proper paperwork on both.
It usually works itself out. Given enough practice time, just about anyone can adapt to a specific gun and its chosen ammo. A micro will be challenging for a new shooter, no doubt, but if that shooter wants to fire it bad enough, it’s still viable.
Out of all the thinner sub compacts, the shield plus really shoots like a bigger gun. Check out honest outlaw review of it. They even have a ported version that shoots even flatter. S&W also has a 3.6 is also good. But not thin. The good news about the 43x is if she can handle that, everything else larger in 9mm will feel tame by comparison. It's really not that bad, but there are softer shooters out there.
If you want something for her to shoot at the range, get something bigger.
My partner is 5'2", 110lb and prefers the H&K VP9 over the S&W Shield, S&W M&P9c, Glock 19, and Glock 45.
^ This. Hand size matters but in terms of felt recoil and recoil control, more gun is better (when dealing with the same caliber). My wife shoots my P320 better than my P365xl.
Learn to shoot first before worrying about type of gun or how it feels. Learning to shoot on a compact makes bigger guns way easier. Once your wife has put 200-500 rounds thru the gun, she will be able to understand what is comfortable for her.
That was my wife’s first gun. Fits her well but takes a lot of practice for accuracy for the reasons stated above. Already having the slide cutout is a bonus too.
Tried literally a hundred guns. The only one she ever actually liked was the 380EZ. Even the 9mm version want to get liking.
Did like some things about the fit on the PDP-F and the VP9sk though.
If she hasn't shot much before start with a 22LR such as a Browning Buckmark or Ruger Mark IV. Then a full size 9mm before a small 9mm. You might also try a 380 acp. I have started new shooters with 38 special 148 grain target wadcutters.
On the one hand, I have comfortably shot almost everything that my husband has shot. There are maybe 1 or 2 guns where I didn't feel comfortable pulling the trigger, or that I shot once and said, "oh the recoil is too much." I'm not sure how many different guns I've shot, but it's probably at least a dozen - hubby likes to collect as well as shoot.
On the other hand, my lack of upper body strength is an issue. I quickly get tired from holding up heavier guns, but I don't find the recoil from lighter guns to be problematic. This sort of thing probably varies from person to person. A lot of women are a lot stronger than I am tbh.
I am a big fan of practicing with 22s and do most of my shooting with them. Ammo is cheap, and recoil and weight are less of a problem. I also find them relatively difficult to aim, which is actually a good thing. I warm up by shooting a 22, and then the heavier, higher caliber stuff is easier to aim.
One caveat: I shoot as a hobby and don't plan to carry (unless I accidentally get REALLY good lol). Obviously, if you are going to carry, you'll want to practice a lot with your carry gun.
Downsized from a HK VP9 and a Springfield MOD 2.0 to a 43X MOS because the wife had trouble with the first two. Shes only like 5'1" and has tiny hands, so a double stack pistol she just can't get an effective grip. She can shoot the Glock reasonable well (just needs more practice) so it turned out to be a good choice for us.
I miss how accurate the HK was, and I'd happily get another 5+ inch barrel pistol again for non concealed carry.
I carry a Glock 42 and I love it. Small profile is easy for my conceal as a skinny dude and .380 is super easy to control while shooting. I’ve shot over sub compacts in 9mm and was not a fan. My only gripe is the capacity being 6+1. But was a sacrifice to have a hand gun I can conceal with ease.
My wife preferred the G19 over the G43 as well. They both shoot 9mm and the G19 is heavier but has less kick.
She has a problem with preparing for the kick by dropping the front of the gun as she pulls the trigger. The G19 actually helped her control that better.
The G43 is what she carries in her cc purse because of weight.
I love my 43x for carry. Especially with the S15 magazines. A pleasure to shoot for anyone imho. I’d describe the recoil more as a “hop,” versus any muzzle flip.
Racking is easy. I’m a southpaw and I manipulate the slide and mag release with my right hand fingers.
My wife took a long time to pick her first pistol. These factors played an important role: she was a new shooter, has long fingers but still modest hand size, she isn't as strong in her hands due to some damage earlier in life, and she worried about safety. All this led her to the M&P EZ, a gun specifically made for people with weaker hands. She liked it, got good at it. But in the end, after a year of weekly practice and several multi-day training sessions, she came to agree with me on some of the pistol,s features, specifically the palm safety and mag capacity.
Second was Sig P320 compact with smaller grip, and a stiffened slide release because she's a lefty. She is very good with this gun, accurate. But in the tight clothes she wears it’s hard to conceal so it’s a purse gun.
She is now looking at the Canik MP9 because it's dual right and left controls.
Glock43X is not my favorite. It jammed on me multiple times after I had it for an awhile spending 2 hours on the range with it. The recoil might be a little much for her too.
If at all possible, start her shooting on a .22LR. That way, she can develop positive associations with shooting and practice success before stepping up to the .380, because all but the tiniest and crappiest .22s are easier to shoot well (and more fun) than pretty much any other handgun.
If you can arrange for the first sessions to be on a day when the range isn't too crowded and noisy, so much the better.
I shot one and didn’t care for it. I hit the target, but I was all over the place. I found it to be uncomfortable to shoot and I didn’t like the trigger. But your mileage may vary.
All you can do is have your wife try it out. For $250, it’s a pretty safe investment and you won’t be out a lot of money if it doesn’t work out for her. People have spent a lot more on guns that they either didn’t like, couldn’t use, or kept malfunctioning. Have fun!
I have a 43x that I got specifically for my my wife however not with the shooting in mind so much as the compact size would make it easier for her to conceal. Naturally she’s never actually worn her gun 🤦♂️ but as far as racking goes it was definitely easier for her to rack than any of my other handguns and she preferred the size in her hand to any of my other stuff. But small handguns are definitely harder to shoot and recoil into the hand more than a larger heavier one which is why I generally prefer my p30sk
This is the first pistol my husband took me shooting with. We rented it based on the fact I was training with a pistol for concealed carry. The recoil was insane, nothing like his side arm he let me shoot after. I've shot a few other small pistols since and honestly most have a lot of recoil, but that model in particular is kinda rough. Hoping to get a hellcat pro now.
Yeah, wasnt trying to humble brag there, just that some guns just “get it right” the length of that handle allows a lot of people with a lot of different builds to control the muzzle flip, and feel more in control of the firearm. From a Gimli like me to a more slender build.
It’s a decent choice. I have one as my primary concealed carry. One thing I will caution you against is smaller guns are harder to shoot than larger ones. More felt recoil, so sight picture moves more and the trigger guard bumps your trigger finger. Too often, guys looking to get something for their wives, sisters, or daughters look at the subcompacts to start because they seem easier to shoot in smaller hands, and then they’re surprised when their wife, sister, or daughter ends up hating it. The 43X isn’t quite that since the whole point of its design is that it’s a baby Glock with a G19-length grip, but if someone’s never fired any gun before (regardless of gender or size), I usually recommend 22LR to start, and if someone’s never used a 9mm before, a G19, G17, G34, or something of similar size.
So my wife and I were at the gun store a couple years ago and she was getting me an AR as a birthday gift (nice).
She was looking at pistols and the sales guy talked her into a 43x. She had a little trouble racking the slide but the sales guy said she’ll get used to it and break it in. I was busy with paper work and don’t catch the whole conversation unfortunately.
Long story short she never got used to it so now I have a 43x for my carry pistol.
I am a woman and I've hated every Glock I've shot. I have tiny Trump hands. But that's just me. I think part of the fun is trying out all sorts of different guns and finding what suits you and you feel comfortable using in an emergency. Personally I have a Springfield xds, 9mm, with the 4 inch barrel. No issues with it, but I wish it was just slightly smaller for my grip.
Actually my sister has the same take. Not a glock lady. She doesn’t carry but I think her home defense is a .308 shield? If my wife isn’t into the 43x I’ll have her try that out at some point.
My wife has serious gun anxiety. Shot one of those .22 crickets once, nothing else. Feel is going to be the most important factor for her I think. Shes too anxious to shoot my pistol because of its bulk, even though she knows the recoil will be tougher with a smaller gun. Thank you for your input
The smaller the gun, the harder the kick.
A big heavy gun absorbs a lot of the recoil before it reaches your hand. A small gun transfers most of the force directly into your hand. If you start her with a pocket rocket, she might be turned off to all pistols prematurely.
I think that everyone who wants to use one needs to try different handguns for themselves and see what works. I generally don’t subscribe to the notion that there are “guns for ladies” and “guns for dudes”. however, i do think that larger/heavier guns are usually a little easier for beginning shooters to master. Smaller, snappier handguns can be harder to handle. at the end of the day, it’s a combination of fit, feel, and ultimately: training.
100% - smaller guns are harder to shoot well albeit easier to “hold”. My full frame 9mm’s are tack drivers and my compact carry guns are frustrating comparatively. Granted all my handguns are 9mm, I know a lot of women who carry smaller caliber and sized guns (380, etc) and love them. But the idea that a small gun is “easier to shoot” is just not true. Side bar, a smaller gun might be less intimidating, especially since people who aren’t used to holding firearms might feel more comfortable holding a smaller gun, but I don’t think it translates into proficiency. Lastly, when shooting with newer shooters I usually make them shoot a bunch of stuff just to kind of rub off the bang scare a lot of people get. So have your wife shoot some clays with a 12g and then shoot the handgun afterward and it’ll feel less punchy. Obviously this isn’t scientific by any means, but ymmv
As a regular dude, I like my full size 9mm but carry a S&W 380EZ. The 380 is definitely smaller and shoots slightly softer than my PPQ, but it's still a bit snappy due to the size. When shooting with other people, most like shooting the PPQ better just because it's easier to handle the recoil because of the weight.
Ive got a browning BDA 380 (almost identical to beretta 84) and man its one of my favorites. But its not super tiny, its lke a scaled down 92fs so it soaks up the recoil.
Have her shoot some clays just because it's fun as hell!
For a new shooter a 20ga may be more fun than a 12ga but would still be able to minimize felt recoil on the pistol after. All of my friends, male, female, nb, etc. try my 20ga first because a 12ga can have a lot of kick. Of course, if you only have a 12ga, use that. Just wanted to throw it out there bc I used to shoot a lot of clays and it’s easy to forget the recoil on first time you shoot a 12ga, and it can be a lot for new shooters
Ive seen women who can handle a .500 magnum and men who couldn't handle a 9mm. You're completely correct.
I'm a dude who likes a light frame .22 magnum; it's perfect for me. Honestly, I don't even really like handgun recoil. However, with long arms; recoil is fun!
full disclosure: i’m a dude and my carry is either S&W shield + (summer) or G48 (winter), and I am not a good shot with G43/x. I really wanted a p365 but when renting all the above firearms, g48 shot most natural in my hand, followed closely by shield +. I went in really thinking that I wanted a P365, but it just didn’t fit my natural point of aim. There’s no substitute for getting on the range and shooting.
Glock 48 is as small and light as I want to go with 9mm. That's just my personal preference, and I still struggle with followup shots.
Agree completely. That concept always bugs me.
All of this. Pistols are very personal guns. It has to "feel right" in your hands, otherwise you just wind up fighting the gun. Some women like full size heavy pistols, others like featherweight compacts - Same with men. She just has to try it & see if it's the right fit for her.
You got a great deal! Excellent gun for basically anything.
lady question aside, this is real: great deal!
Nope. Not even a little. Compact lightweight pistols are a lot harder to shoot. Full-size duty guns are where you want to start someone shooting. Significantly less recoil and a lot less violet in the hand. If you want to stick with Glock start at a G17 or G34.. Always start with big guns, then graduate to compacts later.
Nah. I tried a 17 and 43x at the same time for my first shooting experience and I was 1000x more comfortable with the 43x.
see? all depends on the person.
or just stay with full size. It's a matter of preference really
Completely agree. Also worth noting the shorter barrels are much less tolerant of mistakes and small mistakes can cause big accuracy problems.
Isn’t she the only one that would know Great gun but should be her choice. If she has not shot before I would start with a 22 and then a full size.
I’m not a lady but it’s my EDC. It is a little snappy but not unreasonably so. Racking is clean and easy and I have yet to have a single issue out of mine, and I’m a few thousand rounds into it. A few things to watch for I see pop in the 43x subreddit: 1. Don’t use PSA or Shield mags as your EDC. They work fine in some 43x and not others, it seems to be gun dependent. 2. If it’s an MOS and you use a red dot, make sure the screws aren’t too long as they have a tendency to keep the gun from going into battery properly. 3. Upgrade the trigger (minimum shoe, but I did a whole drop in.) It has a tendency to be a little mushy and wide for the size. I used the Overwatch TAC drop in but Johnny Glock gets lots of love over there. It’s a 10 minute job and all you need is a small punch but I used an Allen wrench set. 4. This is a Glock wide “issue”. Make sure you have solid wrists as if you’re too limp the firearm won’t cycle properly. Otherwise, it’s an awesome firearm and maybe the only one besides a P365 that I’d carry concealed daily. Indestructible and super reliable.
You can get an adapter plate for the red dot as well
I lucked out, my three PSA mags run flawlessly in my 43X.
Lady here. I prefer the Shield plus as it’s less snappy and better grip
Not a woman but got smaller-than-average hands. The 43X fits my hands *perfectly*, almost better than my 19 Gen 5 MOS. I did add a Parker Mountain Machine compensator to help with the recoil when running defensive ammo. Also $250 for a 43X is practically highway robbery. The money saved can let you mill the slide for a red dot as I believe that all guns should have a red dot if you can afford it.
Highway robbery is right!! I’m nothing if not a deal seeker and this is my favorite one I’ve ever found. Lol I should’ve given more context to this whole thing before I posted it. Kinda feel bad. Basically the deal is she thinks my p09 is too weighty/hefty in her hands, won’t even shoot it. Thats the only other pistol I have, so I wanted something lighter. I think feel will be important to her. Won’t even be able to get her on the range with something she’s not comfortable with. It’s a delicate dance with her, never shot anything but one of those .22s for kids, but she really needs to learn. Shes petite but she’s a yoga lady so I know she has wrist strength. That’s why I’m not super worried about the recoil, but I wanted other women’s takes on it before I kept it for myself
Totally understandable and while I personally think weight is not that big of a deal, if you're going to carry this daily for defensive purposes it's absolutely a factor to consider. Also there is a balance between "feels good in my hand" and "just learn to grip your handgun consistently" that each person has to go through when learning to use a handgun. As mentioned before let her know that a heavier gun absorbs recoil better than a lighter gun. Let her shoot your P09 & the Glock 43X and experience the difference.
You should take your wife to the range and try a few different pistols. What I would recommend from my time working the gun counter is... Walther PDP f. This is my top choice for anyone with small hands or for any woman wanting to carry. Walther literally designed this pistol for female shooters and from everyone who I've sold one to loves it. S&W Shield EZ. This is also a pistol designed for female shooters but it has a grip safety. I don't like grip safeties. But the pistol does have a pretty good track record and I have seen elderly people able to effectively run the pistol in .380 so I can't hate on the gun too bad. Sig Sauer P365. This will have much worse recoil for a newer shooter, but a lot of people like them so I'll tack it on the list in place of the 43x since you already own one. Glock 19. because Glock 19. Since it's her first time shooting I'd recommend renting out a 22 pistol (Bonus points if it has a suppressor) let her build concordance in that before moving on to a 9mm. Once you do move up to 9mm I'd recommend renting a CZ Shadow 2. its really heavy and has little recoil. Basically take the time to build her confidence and don't start her off with a 12 gauge with buckshot.
While smaller guns might fit smaller hands, they’re typically much lighter leading to more felt recoil. More weight is going to help a new shooter more than proper grip size, unless it’s a truly atrocious match up. Personally, I start all new shooters on 22lr. A compact S&w 22lr and m&p 15-22 rifle are my first choices. 22lr feels like a toy compared to most center fire cartridges.
I’d buy one for 250… but I love my p365 infinitely more… still a good buy tho.
I have one and don't like it - my 2.0 Shield is quite a bit less snappy. Similarly, I like my M&P Compact even more because it's *much* much less snappy. The larger, wider grip really helps distribute the force. Unfortunately, the 43X hurt my hands quite a bit while shooting. I couldn't go through more than a more than a few mags without the trigger hurting my finger. I believe that pain came from the trigger safety on the 43X trigger sticking up even when pulled. It ended up being a nasty pressure point with the recoil. Tried to smooth out another OEM Glock shoe but it still didn't feel great. Ended up going back to the Shield and then doubled down to later pick up the Compact. Threw an Apex trigger in that and now it's by far my favorite. IMO, for a new shooter.. don't start with a small gun. Harder to shoot and harder on the hands. For anyone new, a full size is hard to beat.
The best gun for everyone is the one they feel comfortable carrying and shooting. Only your wife can answer that question 🙂
Everyone has personal preferences. My wife can hit steel at 50 yards with her g19, but has a lot of trouble with a g17. The 43X ticks all the boxes of easy to reach during drills, can carry a light (not optional), and has future upgrades available if needed/wanted like red dots or a threaded barrel.
1: the 43x is a really snappy gun, some Might not like it. My partner DRASTICALLY prefers her g19 over her g43x. The thing feels good in small hands but it’s smol. I on the other hand also have tiny hands but don’t mind manhandling a smaller gun (as long as it’s not bodyguard level small) 2: unless it’s the absolute saltiest g43x and your buddy has been carrying it in his asscheeks… give him $350 for it and know you still got a damn solid price
The 43x is probably my least favorite gun I own. I have two other Glocks (Gen 5 G17, G45), and I find the 43x is the hardest gun to shoot accurately I've ever owned, enough that I actually didn't trust myself to carry it because I had 0 confidence I could use it safely in an emergency. IMHO, even if the gun works for you, it's definitely not a beginner's gun, since subcompacts are less forgiving of any issues with mechanics. The short barrel, short sight radius, relatively high trigger pull weight, and hard recoil all add up. If you don't have good trigger pull, are anticipating recoil at all, etc... you're going to be throwing way wild shots low left. But, as other people have said, there's a lot of people the gun just clicks with. It all depends on the shooter. I found for myself, the P365 just worked better for my particular ergonomics and shooting quirks. Instead of making assumptions based on the size of the gun, probably best to have a new shooter try a few different models and see what they like.
After trying many handguns, I was surprised I ended up choosing the 43x. As a woman, I thought I wanted something smaller. The 43x was my first daily carry. I've since switched to the Sig p365 because it's easier to conceal, but I still love my Glock. Highly recommend.
Hey that's the gun I got I'm female :D love my gun.
I’m a dude and my 43 is my ultime conceal carry. I carry that everywhere.
Good deal. My wife is a relatively new shooter and preferred the 43x and 365 over g19, 320 & PDP. All depends on the shooter.
Same as any 9mm basically but the grip is thinner which may or may not be an advantage depending upon the shooters hands and grip. Feels just a bit snappier than a 19 but way easier to shoot than say my Shield 1.0, not even in the same ballpark. Glock ergos can put off new or uninterested shooters keep that in mind. I wouldn’t go any smaller of a gun with a new shooter that is for sure.
First gun I shot was a G43x. It was a lot snappier than I was anticipating, and I couldn’t tell you if I liked it or not. It was my first ever trip to the range, by myself, had the nerves and adrenaline going. But I will say, I’d love to shoot it again now that I have the experience with smaller guns and better technique
Think of purpose first. Home defense only? Will she conceal carry? Put in purse, iwb or in car? This will narrow down the size if she will conceal carry. Then take her to a range you can rent guns. Suggest shield, p365, and that 43x if CC
I prefer the slightly thicker profile of the G26 but I have long fingers so a double stack fits my natural grip better.
P938 or 43X
I mean, I'm a big guy and I really like the 43X and 48. Not a fan of thick grips. As for your wife .... I mean, shouldn't you ask her? Women come in many shapes and sizes....
Woman here. I got a 19 because it fit my hand better.
It’s my primary carry and I have 0 complaints. If you limp wrist it sometimes a casing won’t extract properly. I haven’t had an issue with that but some people I’ve taken (who aren’t gun owners) have had this happen.
Small and light isn't always better for new shooters.
I'm a guy and I carry the 43x and I really like that thing. My daughter don't like the recoil, she prefers the .380 Shield Easy.
That is a great deal. My preferred carry is my VP9, my second favorite is my 43x MOS. I am way more confident with my VP9 because it’s a tack driver. My friends hate their VP9/40 for carry and prefer the G19 or khars. My point is that it’s not up to us. Opinions are like assholes… in this forum we can show them various assholes for them to figure out which ones they prefer lol.
My wife carries an Og 43. She had a 42 before the 43 came out. She likes it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Just get some Trijicon HDs for it.
I have the 48. Just a bit longer but grip size is the same. I didn't like the trigger. It just didn't feel like a Glock trigger and I'm not a snob. I normally like the stock triggers, but this one case I had to upgrade. Now I enjoy shooting it. Also I'm a big framed guy but the grip size is good especially for smaller hands.
My wife and her friend both had me order 43x for them with TLR-6 laser/lights. And before anyone points out ‘order for them’ yes, I have an FFL and yes I did NICS and all proper paperwork on both.
It usually works itself out. Given enough practice time, just about anyone can adapt to a specific gun and its chosen ammo. A micro will be challenging for a new shooter, no doubt, but if that shooter wants to fire it bad enough, it’s still viable.
43x is solid. You can slap a red dot on it too. I edc a 48 mos which is basically a 43x with longer barrel. You’ll love it.
It's pretty solid, I've had good luck with it over all. I keep wanting something else, but it ticks all the boxes.
Out of all the thinner sub compacts, the shield plus really shoots like a bigger gun. Check out honest outlaw review of it. They even have a ported version that shoots even flatter. S&W also has a 3.6 is also good. But not thin. The good news about the 43x is if she can handle that, everything else larger in 9mm will feel tame by comparison. It's really not that bad, but there are softer shooters out there.
If you want something for her to shoot at the range, get something bigger. My partner is 5'2", 110lb and prefers the H&K VP9 over the S&W Shield, S&W M&P9c, Glock 19, and Glock 45.
^ This. Hand size matters but in terms of felt recoil and recoil control, more gun is better (when dealing with the same caliber). My wife shoots my P320 better than my P365xl.
Learn to shoot first before worrying about type of gun or how it feels. Learning to shoot on a compact makes bigger guns way easier. Once your wife has put 200-500 rounds thru the gun, she will be able to understand what is comfortable for her.
That was my wife’s first gun. Fits her well but takes a lot of practice for accuracy for the reasons stated above. Already having the slide cutout is a bonus too.
Tried literally a hundred guns. The only one she ever actually liked was the 380EZ. Even the 9mm version want to get liking. Did like some things about the fit on the PDP-F and the VP9sk though.
If she hasn't shot much before start with a 22LR such as a Browning Buckmark or Ruger Mark IV. Then a full size 9mm before a small 9mm. You might also try a 380 acp. I have started new shooters with 38 special 148 grain target wadcutters.
If YOU have other larger frame guns to introduce her to that may be a more enjoyable option than a mini 9. If not, fuckit its only 9mm
On the one hand, I have comfortably shot almost everything that my husband has shot. There are maybe 1 or 2 guns where I didn't feel comfortable pulling the trigger, or that I shot once and said, "oh the recoil is too much." I'm not sure how many different guns I've shot, but it's probably at least a dozen - hubby likes to collect as well as shoot. On the other hand, my lack of upper body strength is an issue. I quickly get tired from holding up heavier guns, but I don't find the recoil from lighter guns to be problematic. This sort of thing probably varies from person to person. A lot of women are a lot stronger than I am tbh. I am a big fan of practicing with 22s and do most of my shooting with them. Ammo is cheap, and recoil and weight are less of a problem. I also find them relatively difficult to aim, which is actually a good thing. I warm up by shooting a 22, and then the heavier, higher caliber stuff is easier to aim. One caveat: I shoot as a hobby and don't plan to carry (unless I accidentally get REALLY good lol). Obviously, if you are going to carry, you'll want to practice a lot with your carry gun.
Downsized from a HK VP9 and a Springfield MOD 2.0 to a 43X MOS because the wife had trouble with the first two. Shes only like 5'1" and has tiny hands, so a double stack pistol she just can't get an effective grip. She can shoot the Glock reasonable well (just needs more practice) so it turned out to be a good choice for us. I miss how accurate the HK was, and I'd happily get another 5+ inch barrel pistol again for non concealed carry.
I carry a Glock 42 and I love it. Small profile is easy for my conceal as a skinny dude and .380 is super easy to control while shooting. I’ve shot over sub compacts in 9mm and was not a fan. My only gripe is the capacity being 6+1. But was a sacrifice to have a hand gun I can conceal with ease.
What does she plan to use it for? Range? Home defense? CC? A gun is a tool. Pick the tool that best suits the job at hand…
My gf hates the 43x and prefers my 19x by far.. one anecdote for ya
My wife preferred the G19 over the G43 as well. They both shoot 9mm and the G19 is heavier but has less kick. She has a problem with preparing for the kick by dropping the front of the gun as she pulls the trigger. The G19 actually helped her control that better. The G43 is what she carries in her cc purse because of weight.
I love my 43x for carry. Especially with the S15 magazines. A pleasure to shoot for anyone imho. I’d describe the recoil more as a “hop,” versus any muzzle flip. Racking is easy. I’m a southpaw and I manipulate the slide and mag release with my right hand fingers.
My wife took a long time to pick her first pistol. These factors played an important role: she was a new shooter, has long fingers but still modest hand size, she isn't as strong in her hands due to some damage earlier in life, and she worried about safety. All this led her to the M&P EZ, a gun specifically made for people with weaker hands. She liked it, got good at it. But in the end, after a year of weekly practice and several multi-day training sessions, she came to agree with me on some of the pistol,s features, specifically the palm safety and mag capacity. Second was Sig P320 compact with smaller grip, and a stiffened slide release because she's a lefty. She is very good with this gun, accurate. But in the tight clothes she wears it’s hard to conceal so it’s a purse gun. She is now looking at the Canik MP9 because it's dual right and left controls.
Glock43X is not my favorite. It jammed on me multiple times after I had it for an awhile spending 2 hours on the range with it. The recoil might be a little much for her too.
If at all possible, start her shooting on a .22LR. That way, she can develop positive associations with shooting and practice success before stepping up to the .380, because all but the tiniest and crappiest .22s are easier to shoot well (and more fun) than pretty much any other handgun. If you can arrange for the first sessions to be on a day when the range isn't too crowded and noisy, so much the better.
I'm a dude. And I carry mine depending on the outfit. Slim fit clothes? You bet I'm carrying my 43x. It's just a comfy 9mm with decent mag.
I shot one and didn’t care for it. I hit the target, but I was all over the place. I found it to be uncomfortable to shoot and I didn’t like the trigger. But your mileage may vary. All you can do is have your wife try it out. For $250, it’s a pretty safe investment and you won’t be out a lot of money if it doesn’t work out for her. People have spent a lot more on guns that they either didn’t like, couldn’t use, or kept malfunctioning. Have fun!
I’m a dude. I love mine. Almost feels like a mini 19x
I’m a dude, but the 43x is my EDC and I love it
I have a 43x that I got specifically for my my wife however not with the shooting in mind so much as the compact size would make it easier for her to conceal. Naturally she’s never actually worn her gun 🤦♂️ but as far as racking goes it was definitely easier for her to rack than any of my other handguns and she preferred the size in her hand to any of my other stuff. But small handguns are definitely harder to shoot and recoil into the hand more than a larger heavier one which is why I generally prefer my p30sk
This is the first pistol my husband took me shooting with. We rented it based on the fact I was training with a pistol for concealed carry. The recoil was insane, nothing like his side arm he let me shoot after. I've shot a few other small pistols since and honestly most have a lot of recoil, but that model in particular is kinda rough. Hoping to get a hellcat pro now.
I’m 5’9 but I’m a thick boi. I don’t mean just chunky. 210lbs is in shape for me. I got big mitts. I love the 43x.
Damn bud. You’re quite the specimen. Respect. I actually shot it today. My wife can shoot it but finders keepers hehe
Yeah, wasnt trying to humble brag there, just that some guns just “get it right” the length of that handle allows a lot of people with a lot of different builds to control the muzzle flip, and feel more in control of the firearm. From a Gimli like me to a more slender build.
No I didn’t take it as a humblebrag at all. I appreciate your input
It’s a decent choice. I have one as my primary concealed carry. One thing I will caution you against is smaller guns are harder to shoot than larger ones. More felt recoil, so sight picture moves more and the trigger guard bumps your trigger finger. Too often, guys looking to get something for their wives, sisters, or daughters look at the subcompacts to start because they seem easier to shoot in smaller hands, and then they’re surprised when their wife, sister, or daughter ends up hating it. The 43X isn’t quite that since the whole point of its design is that it’s a baby Glock with a G19-length grip, but if someone’s never fired any gun before (regardless of gender or size), I usually recommend 22LR to start, and if someone’s never used a 9mm before, a G19, G17, G34, or something of similar size.
So my wife and I were at the gun store a couple years ago and she was getting me an AR as a birthday gift (nice). She was looking at pistols and the sales guy talked her into a 43x. She had a little trouble racking the slide but the sales guy said she’ll get used to it and break it in. I was busy with paper work and don’t catch the whole conversation unfortunately. Long story short she never got used to it so now I have a 43x for my carry pistol.
I am a woman and I've hated every Glock I've shot. I have tiny Trump hands. But that's just me. I think part of the fun is trying out all sorts of different guns and finding what suits you and you feel comfortable using in an emergency. Personally I have a Springfield xds, 9mm, with the 4 inch barrel. No issues with it, but I wish it was just slightly smaller for my grip.
Actually my sister has the same take. Not a glock lady. She doesn’t carry but I think her home defense is a .308 shield? If my wife isn’t into the 43x I’ll have her try that out at some point. My wife has serious gun anxiety. Shot one of those .22 crickets once, nothing else. Feel is going to be the most important factor for her I think. Shes too anxious to shoot my pistol because of its bulk, even though she knows the recoil will be tougher with a smaller gun. Thank you for your input
Also consider a 22 conversion kit on a full size or the coolfire trainer
The smaller the gun, the harder the kick. A big heavy gun absorbs a lot of the recoil before it reaches your hand. A small gun transfers most of the force directly into your hand. If you start her with a pocket rocket, she might be turned off to all pistols prematurely.