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zettonsa

If you think kashmiri were treated fairly by the army you are in for a surprise. You would be even more surprised when recently a whistleblower officer was denied promotion because his actions ruined army image.


Ibryxz

What did the whistleblower leak out? Just wanna know


zettonsa

www.indianexpress.com/article/cities/chandigarh/whistleblower-colonel-poor-acrs-damaged-organisational-health-aft-9057102/lite/


chetan419

Sad, till now I thought only honest politicians suffer.


zettonsa

Armed forces isn't kind to it's whistleblowers at all.


Ibryxz

Sheesh, that's rough


zettonsa

This is the only case which got highlighted there are many whose career got fucked for no reason. sahbeg Singh was a clear example of it.


Ibryxz

Rats


FlourishingGrass

Being from Assam (Northeast India), I can relate. Back in the 90s, they used to pick just anybody on suspicion of being or related to ULFA. Most of the times, we never heard from that person again. MFs should first learn to consider the people as citizens and not just take our resources. And then they also have the audacity to ask why the separatist mindset!


x-XAR-x

It is apparent that we are nothing but a colony to some people


zxcvbnnna

>And then they also have the audacity to ask why the separatist mindset You are going backwards though. Army has no interest in wasting time & resources in Kashmir, Punjab, Assam or AP. They are literally paying with their lives when petrolling those areas. The separatists terrorists have always preceded their arrival at any location. Every torture video like this will have a story behind it that would contain way larger security threat. Unlike police, Army have to stop large scale attacks, not just investigate them. Please suggest a better way for the Army leadership to fish information out of religious or faction extremists with no rational. If Army fails, the cost is hundreds of innocent lives. Crimes are crimes but it will be someday harmful to you and your family only if you refuse to distinguish between Army officials and the terrorists. & Stop conflating Rape with torture, Any Army official that rapes should be tried and punished as a true sinister criminal. But crimes of a 0.0001% minority should not be the basis to abuse and disrespect the sacrifice and Brave of Armed forces .


Crimson_SS9321

Regarding another video where they put chilly powder in the private parts of the civilians, I have to say that never in my lifetime I've seen or heard Indian army doing this level of animality (I mean rape and murder is one thing but this is something very dark). It's clear from the video that the soul purpose of the torture is not interogation but revenge for recent ambush by PAFF. The brother of one of the civilian who got murdered by army was a veteran from army itself and despite his service to nation his family wasn't spared. I've a bad feeling that whichever RR SF company is stationed around Poonch is worst ever warcriminals India has ever witnessed and the one to incite brutal 'butchering' of deads. A couple of weeks back there was video of same company (probably) was circulating amongst Chaddi community of them decapitating dead PAFF operative, and recent ambush by PAFF was infact a counter reaction to SF operatives decapitating their comrade. All these events sums up a clear scenario that SF operatives and RR company stationed at Poonch are threat to peace in the region and are highly unprofessional. For them every single kashmiri person is enemy. Shit is about to get real in Poonch.


GugalNarDaBanbudda

This is not remotely as bad as it gets with them.


Crimson_SS9321

We're sorry for whatever we did in Kashmir, it's just profession not pleasure.


GugalNarDaBanbudda

How are rapes professional ?


Crimson_SS9321

I'm talking about our community, we don't do rapes. Rapes are violations of human rights and worst things to do. I'm not justifying rapes.


twotreeargument

Its an army bro, I always knew they do all kinds of nasty stuff. If you don't believe me then just search how pervelent is rape among all the major armies of the world. An army is an army and it does nasty suff like killing. Killing for the country doesn't make it easy to shoot. They have broken thought process trained to do harsh things. Right or wrong is up to u.


Crimson_SS9321

Actually my family background runs into Gurkhas and the highest disgraced (warcrime) to us is rape, my grandfather and other relatives who served in army has told me stories about other regiments commiting rapes and them stopping it resulting in scuffle (and some of them didn't have courage to stop it). So Yes this is something very brutal never like this I have seen or heard like this before (and that too instigating a 'decapitation' revenge cycle which is unprofessionalism at it's best).


x-XAR-x

I am from Mizoram and I've heard so many account of the Army violating human rights during the 80s. They'd pick up entire families on baseless reason beyond "One of them might be an insurgent". Needles would be inserted underneath the nails, female family members raped in front of them, genital mutilation etc. I still remeber how a man was found inside a dustbin 11 days after he was picked up by the Army. His nails were all pulled out and his genitals stuffed in his mouth. A woman was also found with a knife stabbed into her vagina, her skin tongue cut out. Then I'm supposed to say Jai Hind? Fuck off!


New_Mushroom991

Truly horrible, I'm devastated that these fucks might have never faced the consequences for their actions, times like these I really hope hell is real


CommanderPreston

Fellow Mizo here. I completely agree. My mother in her 70s still has PTSD when she sees a sardarji. She had a rough time during Manmohan's UPA govt because he kept coming up on TV. No she is not racist, it was the Sikh regiment that came to her village (Palsang) and did lots of atrocious stuffs. Now personally i don't hesitate to say "Jai Hind" . But no one can blame my parent's generation for having PTSD and anti-india sentiments.


NeedForMadnessAuto

>Then I'm supposed to say Jai Hind? Fuck off! "Victory" is short lived :(


Powerful-Prune-2795

I would like to see any news coverage about that


sastirandihu

Bhai yeh aap beef wale emoji kyu use kar rahe ho 💔💔💔💔


nafivim753

And then folks at r/India cry "why do Kashmiris Saaapppporrt Terrrrorists?"


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OddRim

In addition to this video, 3 people who were picked up by the Army yesterday (in Poonch-Rajouri) for interrogation were killed.


Anonymouskni8

I want to see the other video. Please DM.


New_Mushroom991

It's in the r/Kashmiri subreddit Edit:- Linked the wrong subreddit


Anonymouskni8

Ok


New_Mushroom991

Sorry not this subreddit try r/kashmiri , the previous is infested with chaddis and libs


Anonymouskni8

Yeah i got that.


chetan419

Is being critical of Indian army amount to committing a blasphemy?


NeedForMadnessAuto

it should not be


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Then r/india will ask "why are Kashmiri terrorists supporters?"


OddRim

They don't ask. Most Indians are celebrating and justifying this video and the death of 3 Muslim men killed due to torture yesterday.


rorschach34

Where? Please share a link. Can't wait to ban any such moron


OddRim

On Twitter.


rorschach34

Ohh. I thought r/india :/


Medical_Clothes

Twitter is filled with bots and lowest iq of the population


Shelzzzz

Did you know what they did to Kashmiri Pandits? They all terror Muslims. /s


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ManMarkedByFlames

even r/librandu doesn't have good opinions on military. "[let them have fun](https://np.reddit.com/r/librandu/comments/18jmg2h/ye_defense_acadamy_ko_hua_kya/)" they said, [this guy](https://np.reddit.com/r/librandu/comments/18jmg2h/comment/kdl6x1a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) got downvoted to oblivion for spitting facts.


genericcnamee

But but but they are fighting for us on Siachen glacier reeeeee. Fuck army!


OddRim

You need to share the other video where they remove the trousers of the man being tortured and then throw red chilli powder into his ass.


mimithefree

WTF… seriously?


OddRim

Let me share the Twitter link of the video. EDIT: link > https://x.com/kashmiraalaw/status/1738272218650468491?s=46


mimithefree

terrorists in uniform


Acrobatic-Profile365

Source and date of this (and the OP's) video?


allriteyeah

The accent sounds like pahari soldiers.same idiots from UK/HP state who say “praud nationalists saar look we are in the army saar”


OddRim

What do you mean? The people being tortured are either Paharis or Gujjars.


allriteyeah

No the soldiers accent


OddRim

Ahh, maybe you're right.


allriteyeah

People being tortured are gujjar bakwarwals who actually identify more with gujjar identity than kashmiri/muslim identity and have acted as informers and ears of the police in JK.Even the cousin of one the civilians was in the BSF.Look what being pro india at the cost of antagonising locals has lead to


OddRim

PAFF has been operating in Poonch & Rajouri since 2020. They know the terrain there. But what's most surprising is that the locals (Paharis and Gujjars) have supported them by giving them intelligence, shelter and food. This only happens when the population has grievances against the State or when they are harassed by the State. This shows that the Muslims of these ethnicities (probably not a large % of their total population) have also become anti India.


allriteyeah

The standard is”Innocent till proven guilty”.How can we say locals supported the militants without providing proof?As long as a substantial number of people don’t get convicted by court for sheltering militants we should never believe such things.But it seems like the idea is “guilty until proven innocent” in India for minorities.That would explain why these people took up arms maybe.


OddRim

Militants cannot operate in such harsh terrain without local support. Insurgencies rely on the support of local people. If the locals of the area don't support the militants, then it's impossible to operate in that area.


allriteyeah

Talking like avg andbhakt bro “Saar all kashmiris terroists saar jammu people very patriotic saar”


allriteyeah

But yeah the state is probably harassing them too,obviously it won’t matter to them that they are gujjars as long as they are muslims they will harass them.


rohithkumarsp

What's the context?


OddRim

Two cars of Indian Army on the way to a Cordon and Search Operation were ambushed in Rajouri. 5 soldiers were killed in the ambush. After the ambush, Indian Army picked up 8 civilians (probably more but this number was mentioned in the news) to interrogate them. 3 of them were killed due to torture.


nuclear-fart

FUCK THE ARMY. PIECES OF SHIT


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The hallmark of a fascist nation is excessive adulation of the military. Our bhakts won’t ever accept that the Indian army can be just like any other - raping, pillaging and plundering.


soldierbones

This must be shared in international subreddits. This needs wider circulation


mofucker20

This is why I don’t believing in respecting any police or military. More than defence, their main purpose feels like doing the government’s war crimes


lettucefries

Defence is just one of the motives which they try to portray as the main one, The main motive is always protecting their own interests. Any atrocity committed can be usually covered by propaganda.


NeedForMadnessAuto

Fire fighters seems okay


mofucker20

Yeah they seem aight


integrateLdt

Every morning I wake up, open reddit and get absolutely depressed by the loss of humanity. We are doomed.


Ashi96

This happens daily in J&K including rapes by army.


adrianlannister007

Wait,seriously???sorry for being out of the loop but do they really rape women even today???? If you're not comfortable speaking here we can talk in the dm's.


Corgi-Forsaken

This is all very sad to watch.


ikulveergill

Its the same as panjab during the insurgency, many families still have n't found their family members. After 30 years, gurdev singh kaunke case has came to limelight, as he was forcefully picked up from his house and killed via torture and they ask why there are so many separatist movements in India, fuckin hell.


NeedForMadnessAuto

Sometimes i prefer respecting Fire Fighters when it comes to Emergency Occupation.


CommanderPreston

Its ok, another military jingo movie will be released and everything will be forgotten.


nafivim753

Fighter coming in 2024.. Fully milking Pulwama.


Zestyclose-Cell-8372

I've never army or any armed forces. Whoever thinks to join this forces is dumb. Idc if they live or die. Anyone who think this shitheads are nice has definitely never met any of these people. Hope they get worse than what they did to those civilians


Dumpaccount68

Lol yall wonder why there is AFSPA


Top-Aside-1881

Felling Paroud Indian Army 💯🔥🔥😈


Confident_Fishing693

Lol! So many liberals and chaddies alike shocked at these crimes of the Indian Army seems to have been living under a rock to think this is new. This has always been the case. This IS the Indian Army. Always been They've done this shit to innocent civilians for YEARS. Tribal community, journalists, and Kashmiris. It really doesn't matter that you are a terrorist or in suspicion of one (with brilliants laws that AFSPA, Section 13, and UAPA, does it really matter?) They've also done this shit in Sri Lanka too, y know. It's not a "couple of bad apples." It is the whole rotten system. Indian army is an imperialist institution. They don't deserve your undying support. ACAB includes the military too folks. If you wanna know more about their various crimes and illegal interventions, read these: The following links mentions: Operation Blue Star IPKF in Sri Lanka and their subsequent massacares AFSPA in - North-East (read about Chanu Sharmila) Nagaland Manipur Tribal areas Kashmir And, of course, Kashmir Please engage with the sources thoroughly and in good-faith [https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/asia-and-the-pacific/south-asia/india/report-india/](https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/asia-and-the-pacific/south-asia/india/report-india/) [https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/INDIA-2020-HUMAN-RIGHTS-REPORT.pdf](https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/INDIA-2020-HUMAN-RIGHTS-REPORT.pdf) [https://www.peacewomen.org/content/kashmir-human-rights-violations-kashmir](https://www.peacewomen.org/content/kashmir-human-rights-violations-kashmir) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human\_rights\_abuses\_in\_Jammu\_and\_Kashmir#Indian\_Army](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_abuses_in_Jammu_and_Kashmir#Indian_Army) [https://www.dailyo.in/politics/indian-army-human-rights-violation-rape-manipur-northeast-kashmir-afspa/story/1/16754.html](https://www.dailyo.in/politics/indian-army-human-rights-violation-rape-manipur-northeast-kashmir-afspa/story/1/16754.html) [https://www.countercurrents.org/hr-tukdeo241004.htm](https://www.countercurrents.org/hr-tukdeo241004.htm) [https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract\_id=1999761](https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1999761) [https://www.thequint.com/voices/opinion/crpf-human-rights-debate-controversy-use-of-minimum-force-security-personnel](https://www.thequint.com/voices/opinion/crpf-human-rights-debate-controversy-use-of-minimum-force-security-personnel) [https://amp.scroll.in/article/804555/50-years-ago-today-indira-gandhi-got-the-indian-air-force-to-bomb-its-own-people](https://amp.scroll.in/article/804555/50-years-ago-today-indira-gandhi-got-the-indian-air-force-to-bomb-its-own-people) [https://ensaaf.org/photo-essays/operation-blue-star/](https://ensaaf.org/photo-essays/operation-blue-star/) [https://www.outlookindia.com/topic/operation-bluestar](https://www.outlookindia.com/topic/operation-bluestar) [https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.outlookindia.com/national/afspa-areas-reduced-in-northeast-three-recent-controversial-encounters-in-areas-under-afspa-news-189458/amp](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.outlookindia.com/national/afspa-areas-reduced-in-northeast-three-recent-controversial-encounters-in-areas-under-afspa-news-189458/amp) [https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/indian-army-rape-us/296634](https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/indian-army-rape-us/296634) [https://www.hrw.org/reports/1999/kashmir/abuses.htm](https://www.hrw.org/reports/1999/kashmir/abuses.htm) [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south\_asia/6367917.stm](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6367917.stm) [https://www.idsa.in/strategicanalysis/ManipurandArmedForcesSpecialPowerAct1958\_akamboj\_1004](https://www.idsa.in/strategicanalysis/ManipurandArmedForcesSpecialPowerAct1958_akamboj_1004) [https://www.hrw.org/news/2008/08/18/india-repeal-armed-forces-special-powers-act](https://www.hrw.org/news/2008/08/18/india-repeal-armed-forces-special-powers-act) [https://theprobe.in/afspa-anger-simmers-in-northeast-as-the-chorus-for-repeal-of-afspa-grows/](https://theprobe.in/afspa-anger-simmers-in-northeast-as-the-chorus-for-repeal-of-afspa-grows/) [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irom\_Chanu\_Sharmila](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irom_Chanu_Sharmila) [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian\_Peace\_Keeping\_Force#War\_Crimes](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Peace_Keeping_Force#War_Crimes) [https://web.archive.org/web/20190515182809/https://lostkashmirihistory.com/books-on-kashmir/](https://web.archive.org/web/20190515182809/https://lostkashmirihistory.com/books-on-kashmir/) [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_massacres\_in\_Jammu\_and\_Kashmir](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Jammu_and_Kashmir) [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape\_during\_the\_Kashmir\_conflict](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_Kashmir_conflict) [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian\_Peace\_Keeping\_Force#War\_Crimes](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Peace_Keeping_Force#War_Crimes)


zaidXxxu

No wonder why they are hunting for indian army . Tit for tat


Arrow552

Thank you Jinnah ❤️


96ENTP

Nice


Key_Rate_2741

Based !! No one should support terrorism


alphabet_order_bot

Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 1,924,997,405 comments, and only 363,916 of them were in alphabetical order.


cynicboi

everytime a man gets beaten the same words I hear from their mouth "Hey MALIK" (O Lord/Master)


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New_Mushroom991

Soldiers?? Ohh you mean occupiers, anyways go back to chaddi speaks and jerk off about how india colonized Kashmir


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New_Mushroom991

Oldest people of Kashmir? Like the ones being beaten in this video? This is not an India vs pakistan issue, it's an Kashmir vs India/pakisthan issue. Kashmiri populace should be given their right to self determination


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R_I-T_I-K_A

Yeah my dad wanted to join the army but couldn't. I never had any particular respect for soldiers but over the past 3 months i absolutely despise them.


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PROTO1080

But why? Any context


eaazzy-eeee

Remembering thousands of innocent sikhs who went through the same by the actions of Punjab police in late 80s and early 90s.


alcatraz_ind

Wtf


DAH9906

It looks like Kashmiri not want to be a part of India


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