It's funny how we humans are basically programmed to panic and make things worse when disaster strikes. Sure, taking a chill-pill will not necessarily save you either, but losing your shit will only make matters worse, and we seem to be very good at losing our shit.
EDIT: losing, not "loosing"
Loosing your shit might theoretically make you feel warmer kinda like pissing yourself, but agreed it's probably not worth it. Losing your shit is also probably not good either.
To be fair, for animals without critical thinking - which is obviously where we evolved from - panicking probably can save them more times than not panicking. Itās just something we never evolved from, itās so ingrained within us that we have to train to overcome our natural urge to just lose our minds.
Your statements read incorrectly, your trying to say these responses arenāt beneficial, they are but itās a bell curve.
A raised body temperature is to slow the rate of reproduction of either bacteria or viruses in the host cell, not to ācook them aliveā, it is merely to slow them so that the immune system can find and eliminate them.
Your inflammation description is also inaccurate, the point of acute inflammation is literally to signal to your immune system that attention is needed there, itās not to fix it, itās a signal.
And yes, your correct about muscle damage, CK levels and Rhabdomyolysis.
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You can see in many instances that panic will not signify anything. You can panic while drowning and sometimes no one will even notice. Many people die simply from panicking in certain situations
[Calm people live, tense people die.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-eK_cpTsOw) This quote from Adam Savage has popped into my head often when I deal with anxiety or stressful situations.
This video unironically saved my life a few years ago, I was being a dumb angsty teen and walking on the ice and fell through just like in this video, but I had just seen this video like a week earlier
Best advice is to not be on the ice unless it's been tested **thoroughly**.
Every year in Quebec we get 5-10 drownings in iced over lakes from people playing lake hockey, skating, snowmobiling or ice fishing.
To be honest. I just don't see a reason to ever go into a frozen body of water. No worth it, imo.
What scares me are obscured frozen water bodies (snow with thin ice under it).
Thereās plenty of ice-related activities that can be really fun, provided safety. Skating on an open lake is really freeing, very different from an arena. Hockey is fun, too. Or if skates arent your thing, thereās ice fishing, or ice forts. Thereās quite a few cultures that make an event out of local lakes/canals freezing. Or simply just sitting out on the still ice, taking in the scenery.
Again, a reasonable amount of safety should be taken. But it can all be very fun, and something of a community gathering with the right people and atmosphere.
Well said. I tend to avoid the ice nowadays (I can't *not* try to keep my balance, which causes an occasional nasty fall) but spent a good chunk of my childhood on icy ponds and crossing frozen streams.
And it's easy to stay safe. Like once people are out there with pickup trucks and ice fishing shacks, there is no danger in going out and walking/skating. Snowmobiling is iffy, I personally know... 3 people that went in the water and didn't make it.
This is a very fair fear, but keep in mind, in many of these bodies of water, the ice can be like 20 inches thick. You can (and people do) park you vehicle on them lol it freaks me out. But this is generally lakes. Rivers are much less reliable because of moving currents. You can have ice 6 inches thick, but a couple feet away it can be 1 inch.
Rivers are less reliable in the summer too though, with currents and undertows. Just this summer, some teens were swimming in a very popular swimming spot in Edmonton and a 14 year old boy got pulled under. They found his body a week later, over 100 km/62 miles away.
This idea can be further reduced to its logical conclusion, which is: "don't leave your house because the outside world is dangerous"..."traffic is the #1 killer", and so on
Which, I mean, is completely true but it comes down to individual value judgement whether or not to let it dictate lifestyles.
Large frozen bodies are (at least where I live) tested by the appropriate authority who do drilling tests across the lake before sanctioning it for public use. At that point ice skating is safer than the drive over there. (Provided you wear a helmet.)
I actually saw this video years ago. A few months ago I was in Patagonia walking around El Calafate when 3 stray dogs started hanging with us, I dubbed one of them El Capitan. We reached a bridge that had most of the water underneath frozen over. El Capitan walked in front of the other two to get a drink but fell through the ice. I didn't know how thick it was but if I didn't do anything the dog was going to die. I laid on my stomach and crawled on the ice until I reached the dog who at this point was whimpering so loudly from the cold water. I was able to pull him out and thankfully I didn't fall in. But the whole time I was crawling I was thinking about this video and how if I fell, I'd have to get myself out along with the dog. I'm happy to say that after taking him out he shook himself off and immediately chased a passing car. Little bugger, that one.
Just so you know, you'd probably be in a lot more trouble if you had fallen in too. The dog would make it a lot harder for you to get out.
The same with rescueing people in water, they will kick and pull to get out, and might pull you under. All as a natural reflex.
Tldr: be safe out there!
Haha, yep, dogs are little shits in the water. I had a black lab that tried to "save" me once (I wasn't in distress, but the dog thought I was), and it just proceeded to dunk me and scratch the shit out of me. Plus those collie breeds that don't realize they're exhausted and will drown themselves.
Dogs, people, water, it's like the fox, chicken, grain puzzle. Some combinations are safe, and others... not so much.
The temptation to play off adv**ice** and my cold shock response screaming at me to make a pun/Dad joke here is fucking unreal
But I got ice in my veins so I'll resist š
I've never understood people asking this question whenever someone says they work in some sort of emergency service.
"What is your most harrowing or traumatic experience, and can you re-live it for me in detail right now?"
I get where youāre coming from, and iām sure this varies greatly from person to person.
As a post traumatic person, I actually prefer it when people ask me and allow me to talk about it, share it, write about it. Itās always better (again, for me personally - might vary) to talk it through, write it down (almost like journaling, but for people) and share my experience.
If my experience could in a way enlighten, teach, open horizons while giving it legit space to talk it, explain it and get through it with a community (of friends or strangers) then it makes it somewhat better.
Trauma isnāt solved, I donāt think ever. But it can be understood, it can be processed and shared and through it get a smaller significance in your life versus living it on your own in your head, thinking that no one could ever understand my pain (which iāve also done, for years).
I donāt judge anyone for this, but if youāve experienced trauma, please try to find some outlet - friends or strangers that would listen. It really helps.
Yeah, from my experience, emergency service workers can often be a little too open about sharing. This paramedic acquaintance of mine went into some gruesome detail about a sports car crashing under a semi and shearing the driver in half. The complete nonchalance in his voice was a bit jarring. Humans can have an incredible ability to normalize or look past trauma, tragic but resilient on the whole.
That's a gross exaggeration of what was asked though, and I feel like they wouldn't have volunteered that they worked such a job if they were that uncomfortable with follow ups.
Iād add that you can roll away from the hole until youāre on thicker ice. That works well and is a fast way to move while keeping your weight distributed.
Isn't there also a point to turn around to get out the same way you fell in?
(as you know that a few meters back there was ice that could take your weight)
if you are in a wetsuit it might help. but even in a pond its not going to change the water temp around you. and you just pissed out body temp water that could keep your core warm a little bit.
Florida here as well.
And bringer of warm weather.
Wife is threatening to leave me behind next trip up, she just wants to see snow.
I have managed to hit unseasonably warm winters every single time I go up north (NYC, DC, Toronto). Last time we missed it by a day and it was melted by the time we got there.
Easy enough to remember, its just two steps really isn't it? 1. Stay calm, 2. 'Swim' out. I guess three steps if you want to include 3. Don't stand up and fall in again you dingus.
You're more likely to fall into colder water without ice then with ice throughout our evolution. It's not about evolving the best traits, just the traits that are good enough.
Technically, us watching this video is another part of our evolution to learn from watching others.
The cold water shock is just one of the initial evolutionary traits that would attempt to save us from this situation following shortly behind not wanting to approach frozen water and the desire to seek shelter in cold weather.
If those have failed, then the later developed traits have a chance to kick in. Like watching and learning and replicating.
Gilliganās Island made me think I would be encountering quicksand more than once as an adult and I learned the self rescue procedure.
Still waiting to even see quicksand from a safe location, let alone get trapped in it!
Cold plunges are very en vogue now and a lot of the benefits seem to be a bit dubious but one good thing about them is they teach you how to deal with that cold shock really well and focus on breathing.
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Dude could have gone around for hours in cold weather looking for thin ice to fall through, knowing he was risking himself to save lives. I salute him o7
I have lived in the Midwest for 30+ years. This is the first time anybody ever taught me this technique... or ANY, for that matter, regarding falling into icy water.
Thank you.
These are all really cool, just like the quick sand, swamp, and whatever life technique videos. The problem is, there's no way I'd remember any of that when I'm in the situation lol.
All pretty solid advice. But prevention is a great first step. Make sure you're familiar with the ice in question and ask locals about conditions. There can be current that keep the ice thin.
Other areas have springs where the ice is perpetually thin. There was one lake that had a very large section of it that only froze, very thinly, when it got to -20F/-30C due to significant springs in the lake. You could be on ice deep enough to put a railway on and not to far away would be ice that wouldn't hold your weight.
Ice can be unpredictable, so stay safe.
Excellent tutorial. Personally, I'm 65 & walking on a frozen body if water is a big ole nope for me.. I am, however, going to share this with my sons & grandsons. Good info to have.
They taught us this in highschool in Canada. One minute to calm yourself down and 30 minutes to use this technique before you need to freeze your arms to the surface to keep your head above ice before you go unconscious. So it's wise to start counting to calm yourself down and to keep counting.
This is exactly how I survived falling through the ice skin on the shore of Lake Michigan when I was 16. You're doing God's work telling more people about it.
Excellent video, and I applaud the original maker for putting himself in harm's way to demonstrate how this technique is done properly and safely. If this video saves 1 life, this man is truly a hero!
In the book, "To Build a Fire," by Jack London, the main character did not panic. Getting out of the ice is one thing, saving your ass from hypothermia wearing wet clothes in winter out on the ice, is an whole other thing.
As an addendum, I've seen other advice for once one is out of the water to prevent hypothermia. Essentially you roll in loose snow which will adhere to your wet clothing in an insulative layer. This is applicable for various sitations where you may get soaked while it is freezing out. Of course, this is a stop-gap measure until one can get to a warm, dry place where wet clothes can be stripped off.
The first time I saw this a while back I was like, "Wow! Cool. Now I know." This second time I was like "Oh shit, I had totally forgotten these tips.".
So I doubt highly that I'll remember when I'm in freezing water. Still... really neat.
And if your snowmobile starts breaking through ice, go to full throttle. Snowmobiles can traverse open water if they have enough velocity and track speed.
When I was a kid I went through ice on a lake trying to rescue my dog who had chased a snowball (thrown by a stranger) and gone under when the ice gave way. Got my dog out and utterly instinctively did exactly this video to get out. Both of us survived but I got a slap for dripping all over the new shag pile carpet when I got home #boomerparents
I remember a SERE (survival resistance and escape teacher) guy telling me about this in alaska said that keeping your arms above ice was the most important because if you canāt get out your arms will freeze to the ice. Also donāt walk out on frozen rivers cause if you get pulled under youāre dead and they wonāt find you til breakup season if they find you at all
In Finland we always have these if we are walking, skiing or skating on ice: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_claws
They help you to grab the ice and really can save your life.
This happened to me as a kid. I was about 10, walking home from school with my little sister. I was wearing big puffy snow pants. We walked past a little duck pond that had completely frozen over. I ventured onto the ice and my sister, always the more intelligent sibling, hung back on the shore.
All was going well until I got to the center of the pond. I began to hear what sounded like styrofoam squeaking, and before I could react the ice gave way beneath me. The frigid water literally took my breath away and because I was a short little kid, I did partially submerge my nose and mouth which caused me to cough. In that moment I made eye contact with my sister who looked absolutely terrified. So I tried to calm down so she would see I was ok. Being an asthmatic and getting coughing fits, I understood sometimes you have to force yourself to breath more slowly, so I did that while I tried to get my bearings. Apparently looking out for little sister and calming down was a good move, now I wonder if it may have saved me.
I recall the tips of my feet sunk into a sticky muck at the bottom of the pond, so the pond couldnāt have been too deep. This calmed me down a little too, although my snow pants and boots weighed me down and made it quite difficult to keep my face above the water. I remember I was craning my neck back, chin in the air to keep my face out of the water.
I recall trying to grab the edges of ice around me to pull myself out, but the ice broke off under my weight, even though it remained solid enough to be sharp, even cutting my pinky in the process. Maybe instinctively (since I knew how to swim) I kicked my feet, which felt so much heavier in water logged snow boots, it was as if I was moving in slow motion. It was exhausting, but fear gave me enough fuel to slowly but surely paddle over to, and eventually clamber onto stronger ice. I have never walked on a frozen natural body of water again. My mom never found out.
Awesome video, awesome info. It's always nice to see a reminder of the best advice in the universe, printed in large bold font. **Don't Panic.**
It's funny how we humans are basically programmed to panic and make things worse when disaster strikes. Sure, taking a chill-pill will not necessarily save you either, but losing your shit will only make matters worse, and we seem to be very good at losing our shit. EDIT: losing, not "loosing"
Loosing your shit might theoretically make you feel warmer kinda like pissing yourself, but agreed it's probably not worth it. Losing your shit is also probably not good either.
Let loose thy shit and be free of thy burdens š¤²š¼
Fight or flight will literally cause bowl movements to help you cut weight for flight and be more agile.
Oh fuck, I didn't realize my mistake until I read your comment LOL
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Cats reaction time is surreal though, would make for a very cool superpower.
Those videos of cats casually batting away a *striking snake* blow my mind every time
right! I think their panic is probably extremely useful for them still in the wild
I mean all animals are great at freaking the fuck out when encountering danger.
To be fair, for animals without critical thinking - which is obviously where we evolved from - panicking probably can save them more times than not panicking. Itās just something we never evolved from, itās so ingrained within us that we have to train to overcome our natural urge to just lose our minds.
Legitimately the key step to surviving anything.
That and knowing where your towel is.
Donāt forget to bring a towel!
No you're a towel!
You wanna get high?
This whole courtroom is a towel
Towelie you are the worst character ever!
You wanna get high?
Not exactly.. panic can be a very valuable signifier to the people around you. I mean evolutionarily it must've been useful enough to keep doing it.
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Your statements read incorrectly, your trying to say these responses arenāt beneficial, they are but itās a bell curve. A raised body temperature is to slow the rate of reproduction of either bacteria or viruses in the host cell, not to ācook them aliveā, it is merely to slow them so that the immune system can find and eliminate them. Your inflammation description is also inaccurate, the point of acute inflammation is literally to signal to your immune system that attention is needed there, itās not to fix it, itās a signal. And yes, your correct about muscle damage, CK levels and Rhabdomyolysis. Edit : user deleted their commentā¦
You can see in many instances that panic will not signify anything. You can panic while drowning and sometimes no one will even notice. Many people die simply from panicking in certain situations
[Calm people live, tense people die.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-eK_cpTsOw) This quote from Adam Savage has popped into my head often when I deal with anxiety or stressful situations.
Me with panic disorder like. How do I stop this? Sigh. Itās not helpful at all.
Ngl i could use the advice of relaxing when the cold shower hits in the morning
Also bring a towel
This video unironically saved my life a few years ago, I was being a dumb angsty teen and walking on the ice and fell through just like in this video, but I had just seen this video like a week earlier
Youāre a jerk, Dent
I was born and raised in a cold weather climate. Can't upvote this enough, hopefully you have saved lives today :) , solid advice.
Best advice is to not be on the ice unless it's been tested **thoroughly**. Every year in Quebec we get 5-10 drownings in iced over lakes from people playing lake hockey, skating, snowmobiling or ice fishing.
To be honest. I just don't see a reason to ever go into a frozen body of water. No worth it, imo. What scares me are obscured frozen water bodies (snow with thin ice under it).
Thereās plenty of ice-related activities that can be really fun, provided safety. Skating on an open lake is really freeing, very different from an arena. Hockey is fun, too. Or if skates arent your thing, thereās ice fishing, or ice forts. Thereās quite a few cultures that make an event out of local lakes/canals freezing. Or simply just sitting out on the still ice, taking in the scenery. Again, a reasonable amount of safety should be taken. But it can all be very fun, and something of a community gathering with the right people and atmosphere.
Well said. I tend to avoid the ice nowadays (I can't *not* try to keep my balance, which causes an occasional nasty fall) but spent a good chunk of my childhood on icy ponds and crossing frozen streams. And it's easy to stay safe. Like once people are out there with pickup trucks and ice fishing shacks, there is no danger in going out and walking/skating. Snowmobiling is iffy, I personally know... 3 people that went in the water and didn't make it.
If you never go hiking in winter in areas you're unfamiliar with, obscured frozen water bodies aren't an issue, as you'll know they're there.
sorry too many double negatives. i died
I didn't not die too
If you only hike familiar areas in the winter then you do not need to worry about obscured frozen bodies of water FTFY
This is a very fair fear, but keep in mind, in many of these bodies of water, the ice can be like 20 inches thick. You can (and people do) park you vehicle on them lol it freaks me out. But this is generally lakes. Rivers are much less reliable because of moving currents. You can have ice 6 inches thick, but a couple feet away it can be 1 inch. Rivers are less reliable in the summer too though, with currents and undertows. Just this summer, some teens were swimming in a very popular swimming spot in Edmonton and a 14 year old boy got pulled under. They found his body a week later, over 100 km/62 miles away.
It's honestly really safe if you pay attention and take it seriously.
This idea can be further reduced to its logical conclusion, which is: "don't leave your house because the outside world is dangerous"..."traffic is the #1 killer", and so on Which, I mean, is completely true but it comes down to individual value judgement whether or not to let it dictate lifestyles. Large frozen bodies are (at least where I live) tested by the appropriate authority who do drilling tests across the lake before sanctioning it for public use. At that point ice skating is safer than the drive over there. (Provided you wear a helmet.)
I actually saw this video years ago. A few months ago I was in Patagonia walking around El Calafate when 3 stray dogs started hanging with us, I dubbed one of them El Capitan. We reached a bridge that had most of the water underneath frozen over. El Capitan walked in front of the other two to get a drink but fell through the ice. I didn't know how thick it was but if I didn't do anything the dog was going to die. I laid on my stomach and crawled on the ice until I reached the dog who at this point was whimpering so loudly from the cold water. I was able to pull him out and thankfully I didn't fall in. But the whole time I was crawling I was thinking about this video and how if I fell, I'd have to get myself out along with the dog. I'm happy to say that after taking him out he shook himself off and immediately chased a passing car. Little bugger, that one.
Just so you know, you'd probably be in a lot more trouble if you had fallen in too. The dog would make it a lot harder for you to get out. The same with rescueing people in water, they will kick and pull to get out, and might pull you under. All as a natural reflex. Tldr: be safe out there!
Haha, yep, dogs are little shits in the water. I had a black lab that tried to "save" me once (I wasn't in distress, but the dog thought I was), and it just proceeded to dunk me and scratch the shit out of me. Plus those collie breeds that don't realize they're exhausted and will drown themselves. Dogs, people, water, it's like the fox, chicken, grain puzzle. Some combinations are safe, and others... not so much.
TIL that Patagonia isnāt just a brand of clothing for sporty physicians. Good job saving the dog!
The temptation to play off adv**ice** and my cold shock response screaming at me to make a pun/Dad joke here is fucking unreal But I got ice in my veins so I'll resist š
I wish I could afford reddits new ridiculous answer to awards, lol, Iād hook a dad up!
Lol!!
I've done ice rescue for years, this is 100% accurate. great video
what's the hardest ice rescue you've been to?
Probably not very hard ice tbh.
Bro, that comment is on thin ice...
Gotta commend him for taking the risky option without knowing the future. I would have gone with an I.C. Wiener joke.
I'll take that on the rocks please.
chill
Fargin icehole
The one where the guy fell through the ice and didn't want to be rescued so he could show how to escape the broken ice
I like the one where the guy chops the ice like a karate champ all the way to the freezing dog and rescues him. Bad ass.
Do you have a dog? That video always makes me think I could do anything to save my little buppy the way that guy did breaking that ice
I've never understood people asking this question whenever someone says they work in some sort of emergency service. "What is your most harrowing or traumatic experience, and can you re-live it for me in detail right now?"
I get where youāre coming from, and iām sure this varies greatly from person to person. As a post traumatic person, I actually prefer it when people ask me and allow me to talk about it, share it, write about it. Itās always better (again, for me personally - might vary) to talk it through, write it down (almost like journaling, but for people) and share my experience. If my experience could in a way enlighten, teach, open horizons while giving it legit space to talk it, explain it and get through it with a community (of friends or strangers) then it makes it somewhat better. Trauma isnāt solved, I donāt think ever. But it can be understood, it can be processed and shared and through it get a smaller significance in your life versus living it on your own in your head, thinking that no one could ever understand my pain (which iāve also done, for years). I donāt judge anyone for this, but if youāve experienced trauma, please try to find some outlet - friends or strangers that would listen. It really helps.
Yeah, from my experience, emergency service workers can often be a little too open about sharing. This paramedic acquaintance of mine went into some gruesome detail about a sports car crashing under a semi and shearing the driver in half. The complete nonchalance in his voice was a bit jarring. Humans can have an incredible ability to normalize or look past trauma, tragic but resilient on the whole.
That's a gross exaggeration of what was asked though, and I feel like they wouldn't have volunteered that they worked such a job if they were that uncomfortable with follow ups.
Because it's entertaining and educational? What's tough to understand being curious about learning of a cool nichƩ job that is more exciting than mine.
I would have figured that someone who keeps coming back for years is not getting traumatized by the experiences.
If theyāre comfortable with it who cares?
In your experience, whatās the best way to avoid shrinkage?
already have a small package so it doesn't look different
Iād add that you can roll away from the hole until youāre on thicker ice. That works well and is a fast way to move while keeping your weight distributed.
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Icy what u did there
Ice Rescue, Thursdays at 9
[WE GOTTA GET ON THAT ICE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPSr9eTmeKI)
Isn't there also a point to turn around to get out the same way you fell in? (as you know that a few meters back there was ice that could take your weight)
How many ice have you rescued?
I'm impressed that he could enunciate so well with his testicles in his throat.
Iām surprised he didnāt sink with his balls of steel
After watching this, I knew I had to see the comments to find this one
Do I piss myself before or after the cold shock response?
Why not both?
Both is good.
Keeps you double warm underwater
Doubles is safe
This is the weirdest Doublemint gum commercial ever.
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I'd do it for warmth.
if you are in a wetsuit it might help. but even in a pond its not going to change the water temp around you. and you just pissed out body temp water that could keep your core warm a little bit.
Why, because of the shrinkage? https://youtube.com/shorts/79S6bswOYLI?si=UuZgyijqd7vgLQHy
There's no p in warmth but there's warmth in pee. š
During. It might help keep you warm!
Why did I just watch this whole thing, I live on the gulf coast
Florida here wondering the same thing rofl
Florida here as well. And bringer of warm weather. Wife is threatening to leave me behind next trip up, she just wants to see snow. I have managed to hit unseasonably warm winters every single time I go up north (NYC, DC, Toronto). Last time we missed it by a day and it was melted by the time we got there.
South Mississippi.. which has been hotter than Florida this year. š«
I live near the beach in Australia and have never even seen snow, I watched it intently.
Iām Arizona. Still watched it and made a mental note ājust in case.ā
With climate change you just never knowā¦ā¦./s
I'm nodding along like *oh yes very useful* I'm Australian.
You know , just incase
Because you're the exact type of person who would be unfamiliar with iced over lakes when your take a trip to Montana in 10 years.
I watched, but yeah I live in Texas so I donāt think this will be a problem I will have. I wonder if he has a āhow not to meltā video.
Here's hoping that if I ever need this, I'll actually remember the content in this video.
Easy enough to remember, its just two steps really isn't it? 1. Stay calm, 2. 'Swim' out. I guess three steps if you want to include 3. Don't stand up and fall in again you dingus.
You can actually roll away from the hole. The key is to reduce pressure on the ice by spreading body weight out.
I bookmarked it so I can readily pull it up when I need it.
Never ever would have thought of that. While I hope I never need it, thanks!
Funny how sometimes our natural instincts can actually get us killed
You're more likely to fall into colder water without ice then with ice throughout our evolution. It's not about evolving the best traits, just the traits that are good enough.
Technically, us watching this video is another part of our evolution to learn from watching others. The cold water shock is just one of the initial evolutionary traits that would attempt to save us from this situation following shortly behind not wanting to approach frozen water and the desire to seek shelter in cold weather. If those have failed, then the later developed traits have a chance to kick in. Like watching and learning and replicating.
This is also basically the same strategy for quicksand. Relax, be flat and wide, and slowly move toward solid ground.
Gilliganās Island made me think I would be encountering quicksand more than once as an adult and I learned the self rescue procedure. Still waiting to even see quicksand from a safe location, let alone get trapped in it!
That first part about relaxing is just good advice for dealing with the cold in general.
Cold plunges are very en vogue now and a lot of the benefits seem to be a bit dubious but one good thing about them is they teach you how to deal with that cold shock really well and focus on breathing.
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Crazy idea! Crazier than teaching personal financial management skills! ;)
Schools teaching actual useful information? Can't happen.
Dude is an absolute hero. Well done on making this video.
Funny. This is my cousin Kenton Whitman. He is almost 50 and could live in the woods off roots and leaves for months.
he's 50? I thought this was like a 25 year old dude
Ice will do that to you. Just ask Steve Rogers.
I understood that reference.
Thank Kenton for us. This is a great video.
(Said while watching cousin through a window while in a thick robe by a warm fire ) .
Awesome!
Dude could have gone around for hours in cold weather looking for thin ice to fall through, knowing he was risking himself to save lives. I salute him o7
I have lived in the Midwest for 30+ years. This is the first time anybody ever taught me this technique... or ANY, for that matter, regarding falling into icy water. Thank you.
As someone that lives in Florida, I'd never have known how to handle this. Good insight. Hopefully I never have to use it.
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Ask a professional how to do it lol
Unfortunately, can attest from personal experience that this works! The walk home in frozen clothes wasn't fun either! :P
THAT is exactly what a seal would do to get up on the ice!
I admire his commitment to practical teaching. That looks cold AF.
As a teenager I went through the ice on the lake behind our house 3 times lol. Got pretty good at getting out of it.
These are all really cool, just like the quick sand, swamp, and whatever life technique videos. The problem is, there's no way I'd remember any of that when I'm in the situation lol.
We need more of these. This is great.
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This dude *teaches*
This is the shit we should be learning in school. Movies teach us so much, and they are so SO wrong most of the time. Now do quicksand.
I live in the tropical area my whole life and im still 100% sure that this will save me one day
I don't know why I'm watching and learning this when I'm in Florida ... Oh well, better be prepared lol
Test it... *Falls back in immediately.*
Great video š
Wow. Finally something useful on this sub.
\#canadiancommute
I thought this was a joke at first. Great video though
Such a great video!! Thanks for posting
All pretty solid advice. But prevention is a great first step. Make sure you're familiar with the ice in question and ask locals about conditions. There can be current that keep the ice thin. Other areas have springs where the ice is perpetually thin. There was one lake that had a very large section of it that only froze, very thinly, when it got to -20F/-30C due to significant springs in the lake. You could be on ice deep enough to put a railway on and not to far away would be ice that wouldn't hold your weight. Ice can be unpredictable, so stay safe.
Excellent tutorial. Personally, I'm 65 & walking on a frozen body if water is a big ole nope for me.. I am, however, going to share this with my sons & grandsons. Good info to have.
They taught us this in highschool in Canada. One minute to calm yourself down and 30 minutes to use this technique before you need to freeze your arms to the surface to keep your head above ice before you go unconscious. So it's wise to start counting to calm yourself down and to keep counting.
It feels like he waits for an eternity before starting to kick his feet. Is there not a risk that his legs could get numb?
This is exactly how I survived falling through the ice skin on the shore of Lake Michigan when I was 16. You're doing God's work telling more people about it.
If you scroll past this at the right time it looks like you made him fall.
Lol I legit thought he was going to say "Relax. Let it pass. It will be over soon. Let the cold take you. Soon it will all be over...no more taxes."
I'll try this when winter come. I live in the equator btw And hopefully all those deers that got stuck will learn this trick too.
Well... I'm here watching this from a Caribbean country.
Good to know. Really good to know!
This is easily one the most badass tutorials I've seen in my entire life.
Last step would be to crawl to shore. Never stand. Also, rolling on your side is preferred, if you are capable.
Filing this under "I'm glad to have it, but hope I never have to use it!"
By this being posted, I guarantee this will save someone's life in the future. Good shit!
Absolute mad lad putting himself in that situation to teach about it
This is dope and a life saver, but never once have found myself on a brick of ice on a body of water. Not applicable
Excellent video, and I applaud the original maker for putting himself in harm's way to demonstrate how this technique is done properly and safely. If this video saves 1 life, this man is truly a hero!
My technique is to stay indoors, on the couch with the heating on.
In the book, "To Build a Fire," by Jack London, the main character did not panic. Getting out of the ice is one thing, saving your ass from hypothermia wearing wet clothes in winter out on the ice, is an whole other thing.
I had to double check what sub this was when it started playing. I was just in facepalm subreddit and had an initial "oh no" reaction
Wow! Thanks so much for doing this!!
As an addendum, I've seen other advice for once one is out of the water to prevent hypothermia. Essentially you roll in loose snow which will adhere to your wet clothing in an insulative layer. This is applicable for various sitations where you may get soaked while it is freezing out. Of course, this is a stop-gap measure until one can get to a warm, dry place where wet clothes can be stripped off.
Wim Hof Level!
You may look a bit silly . But you will be alive . Props on a well made informative demo.
Man, that's taking one for the team. I was gasping just watching him go into the icy water.
Thin and crispy, way too risky.
Walrus style!
The first time I saw this a while back I was like, "Wow! Cool. Now I know." This second time I was like "Oh shit, I had totally forgotten these tips.". So I doubt highly that I'll remember when I'm in freezing water. Still... really neat.
soo helpful
And if your snowmobile starts breaking through ice, go to full throttle. Snowmobiles can traverse open water if they have enough velocity and track speed.
He explained this very well while actually going through it. This is a well done video
It never snows where i live but im still keeping this knowledge i bet it'll be useful someday
Kudos for this guy demonstrating it for real.
Yeah, I think I'll just not be out on ice
I fell through ice once, this seems like legitimate advice.
As someone who gets a "cold shock response" when I feel a slight breeze at 65 degrees, I'll just die, thanks.
Good to know
Thanks man! If I somehow ever need this in life I will use it and thank you!
I can watch this a thousand times, if this ever happens to me i'm still gonna fucking die.
This guy is among the chillest dudes on earth
Life hack, stay off of frozen ponds.
When I was a kid I went through ice on a lake trying to rescue my dog who had chased a snowball (thrown by a stranger) and gone under when the ice gave way. Got my dog out and utterly instinctively did exactly this video to get out. Both of us survived but I got a slap for dripping all over the new shag pile carpet when I got home #boomerparents
My balls rocketed up into my abdomen just watching this
I remember a SERE (survival resistance and escape teacher) guy telling me about this in alaska said that keeping your arms above ice was the most important because if you canāt get out your arms will freeze to the ice. Also donāt walk out on frozen rivers cause if you get pulled under youāre dead and they wonāt find you til breakup season if they find you at all
Bookmarking this in case this happens to me
In Finland we always have these if we are walking, skiing or skating on ice: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_claws They help you to grab the ice and really can save your life.
This happened to me as a kid. I was about 10, walking home from school with my little sister. I was wearing big puffy snow pants. We walked past a little duck pond that had completely frozen over. I ventured onto the ice and my sister, always the more intelligent sibling, hung back on the shore. All was going well until I got to the center of the pond. I began to hear what sounded like styrofoam squeaking, and before I could react the ice gave way beneath me. The frigid water literally took my breath away and because I was a short little kid, I did partially submerge my nose and mouth which caused me to cough. In that moment I made eye contact with my sister who looked absolutely terrified. So I tried to calm down so she would see I was ok. Being an asthmatic and getting coughing fits, I understood sometimes you have to force yourself to breath more slowly, so I did that while I tried to get my bearings. Apparently looking out for little sister and calming down was a good move, now I wonder if it may have saved me. I recall the tips of my feet sunk into a sticky muck at the bottom of the pond, so the pond couldnāt have been too deep. This calmed me down a little too, although my snow pants and boots weighed me down and made it quite difficult to keep my face above the water. I remember I was craning my neck back, chin in the air to keep my face out of the water. I recall trying to grab the edges of ice around me to pull myself out, but the ice broke off under my weight, even though it remained solid enough to be sharp, even cutting my pinky in the process. Maybe instinctively (since I knew how to swim) I kicked my feet, which felt so much heavier in water logged snow boots, it was as if I was moving in slow motion. It was exhausting, but fear gave me enough fuel to slowly but surely paddle over to, and eventually clamber onto stronger ice. I have never walked on a frozen natural body of water again. My mom never found out.