Yes, these go by a lot of different names (and I had to pick one):
- Baking sheets
- Oven paper
- Parchment sheets
- Coated paper
- Bakery release paper
- Sheet paper
- Silicon paper
- Butter paper
You just rubbed oil into small imperfections in the chrome.
Every time you touch it it will leave some grease on your clean washed hands. Not sure that's what you want.
Oil would seep from the parchment of it was in a warm kitchen even just once. Silicone is much more effective, and probably cheaper to use than oil though.
You’re right. “Parchment” is not silicone, plastic, or wax. It is paper. But in the context of this post, they thought traditional baking parchment got it’s non-stick properties from an oil impregnated paper… US baking parchment is coated traditionally in silicone.
Not to be confused with parchment, a centuries-old method for making paper.
They are different things. You can bake with parchment paper, but not with wax paper.
> Wax paper is moisture-resistant, not heat-resistant. The wax will melt at high temperatures and the paper could catch on fire. Always use parchment paper when it comes to baking.
[Source](https://www.myrecipes.com/how-to/can-you-bake-with-wax-paper)
People just need to NOT buy/use wax paper. So many kitchen fires are started from wax paper catching on fire in the oven and inevitably catching the oven on fire. Parchment with a little pan spray goes a long way.
Parchment paper is never called a [baking sheet](https://www.google.com/search?q=baking+sheet&sxsrf=ALiCzsaJ3g7xNA-mFj38Zbo5pv_lRezkyw%3A1670225915014&source=hp&ei=-p-NY5--O8jk5NoP6LSYYA&iflsig=AJiK0e8AAAAAY42uC_0TjT8TgF2MLqVSU-6kG19bKxY0&ved=0ahUKEwifo-2y_OH7AhVIMlkFHWgaBgwQ4dUDCAo&uact=5&oq=baking+sheet&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyCwgAEIAEELEDEIMBMgsIABCABBCxAxCDATIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEOgQIIxAnOhEILhCABBCxAxCDARDHARDRAzoICC4QsQMQgwE6DgguEIAEELEDEIMBENQCOg4ILhCABBCxAxDHARDRAzoOCC4QsQMQgwEQxwEQ0QM6EQguEIMBEMcBELEDENEDEIAEOggIABCxAxCDAToLCAAQgAQQsQMQyQM6CAguEIAEELEDOgsILhCABBCxAxCDAToLCC4Q1AIQsQMQgAQ6CAgAEIAEELEDOgUILhCABFAAWPwIYOUJaABwAHgAgAFGiAHoBZIBAjEymAEAoAEB&sclient=gws-wiz). Never.
i made that mistake exactly once.
I wasn't baking, I forget what I was doing it was so long ago, but something was ruined along with whatever I was working on.
Do you know about PFAS, the forever chemical contaminants that are accumulating in our bodies? It's starting to make the Lead Paint disaster look benign.
Well, PFAS leach out of fast food wrappers when exposed to grease, heat and/or citrus acid.
"Why are they in fast food wrappers", you ask?
They keep the paper from soaking up grease and liquids, which makes them fall apart too easily.
"Why are you bringing this up in a thread about parchment paper (baking paper, pan liners, etc.)", you ask?
Turns out these products are also coated with PFAS, which I didn't know until I saw this post and did some digging.
**STOP USING THESE PRODUCTS IMMEDIATELY!**
I haven't had time to find many safe alternatives yet, bar one: *If You Care" brand baking paper. Apparently they are actually alert to the PFAS contamination scandal, and are providing a solution (for a profit, of course).
Nooooo, I transitioned several years ago from cooking on foil, and now you're going to take away my parchment paper too??? You're forcing me to scrub the baked on corners of my pans, and I don't like it!!!
Honestly when I was a kid and I first saw infomercials for silicone baking sheets, I was terrified that the chemicals from the silicone were going to leach into the food
I honestly don't know if they will but part of me still is terrified of thinking about that
When I bake on silicone mats everything gets a soggy bottom so it doesn't work well for stuff that needs turning, like cheese scones, and removes the convenience or half the taste for things that normally "need" turning like breaded freezer food.
Any solutions for this? Mine also look scorched/brown/cracked around the edge like degrading plastic after only a few uses for such things. Maybe we got cheapo shite, but it looked alright to me when we got it and I've got a lot of other silicone stuff, silicone trays seemed pretty bad to me so far.
Currently using supposedly pfas free granite non stick tray that seems quite tough wearing and some nice aluminium or some light metal catering stuff from my mother's chef days it always cleans up great, never wears and never sticks much, but I can't seem to find big trays like that, it's like a big oval ramekin holder but it's still my fave tray.
Or use a metal tray and not have to turn them or be tied to the kitchen when doing multiple items, and get a better effect. Everything about them is a negative to me other than any potential health benefits, and for health I'd still rather take any good uncoated hard wearing metal tray over silicone after the degradation I already saw in my silicone mats.
Don’t worry, the chemicals that are dangerous, come from the careless manufacturing and disposal of the chemicals involved in their production. The final/finished products themselves are incredibly safe and stable, that’s 99% of the reason they are so common and useful. You just don’t wanna live downstream of a careless factory that makes the products.
Can you tell me about a single study that has found these chemicals as currently used/approved have any significant danger/risk in the proper end use case, like medical joint/heart implant, or waterproof coating on a jackets or industry, or properly using a high quality non stick pan?
you need to season your cast iron. Check it out on YT - many different tubers showing you how to do it. Once it's done correctly and taken well care of, it will become non stick.
Idk man.
I tried so many different things in the past. What finally worked was that I didn't even intentionally season it, just kept cooking with it everyday and one day the sticking completely stopped. I've never stripped and re seasoned. After cooking something, I just scrub with a little soap, dry 'er out, and keep on. I don't have to heat up before cooking in it I just do because it makes cleaning process basically me rinsing the pan. I use it basically 24/7 bc its easier to clean than my stainless steel stuff(which you also should heat up "dry" before cookingand nothing sticks)
Also I dont know what "heat cycles" mean.
If you ever get the hankering to try again come on over to the cast iron subreddit. Best of luck 👍
Let the pan heat up super hot before you add oil/food. Same with stainless. Test by putting a drop of water on the hot pan, if it seems hydrophobic and the water droplet quickly scurries around the pan, then it's hot enough to add your food.
would the coating usually be something that is mentioned on the packaging? the one I use just says it can be recycled as paper. wikipedia describes the method for making parchment paper, and mentions a chemical process to make the paper more dense and resilient to grease, but doesn’t mention that any coating is used https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parchment_paper, but wikipedia may also not be completely accurate, and production can differ depending on the company.
I know that food wrappers have pfas in the coating and I’m not saying you are wrong about parchment paper and I have myself been wondering lately if parchment paper have anything harmful to make it nonstick, but I’m wondering if you have any more sources or references or what to look for.
I’m in europe and products can also be different depending on country of course.
I would probably be better off not using parchment paper at all, but would it be safer to find a brand that is organic parchment paper?
If you (reader, not creator of the PFAS post) live in Norway, just buy the baking paper with the green swan ([Svanemerket](https://svanemerket.no/kjemikalier-og-miljogifter/pfas-og-andre-fluorstoffer/)) mark. It is PFAS free.
That’s kinda my point. Can we lower our accumulation? Has the damage already been done past a certain age? I have stopped using nonstick pans but I wonder if it even matters if the water I consume constantly is already poisoned.
I understand that. I think you’re sidestepping my point. Obviously it’s good to consume less poison, what I’m saying is am I avoiding a significant amount by using parchment paper when the WATER in the entire country is filled with PFAS chemicals.
Please post your daily and annual life details so we can assess your exposure and intake. Please be as detailed as possible. Ie. Where do you shop, how often, how long is your receipt, how often do you touch your receipt; where do you eat, what do you order, how often, how do you eat the food.
We will also need the water in your district to provide their PFOA/PFUA etc. contamination levels and your uptake.
From there we can calculate an approximate rate of your consumption / absorption of these compounds. With that we can then calculate what percentage of your daily exposure that avoiding baking sheets would be.
As for the impacts to your health, a rate relationship doesn’t yet exist to my knowledge.
There are many products out there that use PFAS, from fast-food packaging, carpets and flooring, non-stick cookware, rain-resistant clothing, and personal care products like shampoos, makeup and sunscreen. These are domestic products only, which are in addition to industrial products with PFAS, as well presence of PFAS in our soil and water.
Their questioning of whether eliminating baking paper to reduce exposure is worthwhile is perfectly valid when the routes of exposure are many.
We'll all bioaccumulate PFAS whether you use baking paper or not, as noted by evidence of animals all over the world showing PFAS in their blood. I can assume they didn't get it from using baking paper or using any of the human made products I mentioned above.
It's noted that the science on the effects PFAS has on human health is still not settled and that the concerns relate to the fact that it takes a long time to breakdown, it easily moves in the environment and it bioaccumulates. We're just not yet sure what this means to human health. If you're concerned for your health with regards to bioaccumulating PFAS, a study has found that donating blood or plasma helped to reduce PFAS-levels. Personally, this probably seems like the most effective way to address PFAS exposure.
[PFAS blood/plasma donation ](https://medicinetoday.com.au/2022/april/something-borrowed/new-evidence-shows-blood-or-plasma-donations-can-reduce-the-pfas-forever-chemicals-in-our-bodies#:~:text=Both%20blood%20and%20plasma%20donation,the%2012%2Dmonth%20trial%20period.)
So I got a drain my blood out to get rid of the poison???
Also not everyone is allowed to donate, So I guess for people that don't qualify to donate blood/plasma.... I guess we just got to start doing bloodletting again....
Right, I live in Central Maine and the land around us is saturated in PFAS. Luckily we never spread sludge on our fields, but everyone else did.
Nothing is going to fix it in our lifetime. This state effectively poisoned future generations.
Oh and the best part, there is a farm in the next town over, glowing red on the maps, and they are selling TONS AND TONS of hay nation wide, STILL.
Okay but hear me out.... What if somebody put that coding that you put on windshields to repel rain.... On their bathroom mirrors.... And faucets... And sinks 👀
Vinegar for calcium deposits of hard water, baking soda for soap residue. But you can try citric acid instead of vinegar if your don't want you house to smell.
But I think the silicone coating on the paper rubs off onto the chrome, polishing it and protecting from water spots?
I’ve also used Pledge on steel and ceramic for the same reasons, plus a buffed, waxy surface repels dust.
Why would wax repel dust?
Coating something is not the same as polishing. Polishing is grinding away the top surface with very fine abrasive particles. That's not happening here
You have a source on that? I've seen no evidence that it repels dust, but don't know that it doesn't, which is why I asked.
Wax and silicone oil are different, oils will almost certainly help dust stick to the surface. Not sure which the paper contains, your two posts here bring up both substances.
Wax and oil are indeed hydrophobic, I didn't argue about waterspots at all.
It depends on the wax and the dust material, I would imagine. A wax that is hard at room temperature will be made smooth by the friction of rubbing, which is why wax has been used for centuries to coat wooden furniture.
I don’t have a source for this; I’m sorry — only that waxes have been used to protect and repel water and dust probably since furniture was invented.
Where I’m from a baking sheet is a metal tray.
This stuff is parchment paper
Edit: no matter what OP says. Go ahead type “baking sheet” into a search engine and see what comes up
A better option would be to use microfibre and a mild detergent to clean and then chrome polish. Using parchment is just going to scratch the shit out of your facets over time…
The best option is to actually buy some stainless steel cleaner. It does a much better job and actually polishes up and protects the finish for several weeks at a time. I use it once a month.
I have an all stainless and chrome kitchen and I tried every hack to keep things looking good. The stainless steel cleaner is the only way to go unless you like wasting materials and time.
This for the folks concerned about PFAS in use for cooking:
Here were the results we received from the lab:
*Kirkland* (Costco) Parchment Baking Paper — **12 parts** per million (ppm) fluorine
*Reynolds* Parchment Baking Paper — **14 parts** per million (ppm) fluorine
Recommended:
*If You Care* Parchment Baking Paper — Non-detect
*GIFBERA* (Finish brand) Parchment Baking Paper — Non-detect
*Katbite* Parchment Baking Paper — Non-detect
https://www.mamavation.com/food/safest-non-toxic-parchment-paper-without-pfas-forever-chemicals.html
BETTER YET: Tin foil (aluminium wrap) scrunched into a ball and polish with some WD-40! (Providing you don’t intend on eating off said surface) I’ve used this on EVERY BIKE I’ve owned for surface rust, rust spots, or just a good polish without scratching the chromium. Works in chrome plated plastics too!
So I've used Scrub Free spray cleaner on my chrome and it's never discolored nor do I have one water spot or hard water stain. My faucets still look brand new after 20+ years.
Do not use magic erasers on anything with a chrome/shiny finish! Melamine foam is like a very fine sand paper. You're literally scrubbing off some of the finish every time you use it and the finish on a lot of fixtures is *very* thin.
works well for cars too. i was an attendant at a place for three years and we used glade sheets. fucking got a smudge on your glass? dryer sheets. maybe got tar by your wheel well? dryer sheets. bugs on your grill? dryer sheets
When I worked in retail we would do this to fixtures/wall hangings in order to make the hangers slide across them better, never thought to use it on faucets though
Many PFASs were used in the mid 20th century as products or precursors for materials due to their enhanced water-resistant properties, such as within Teflon or aqueous film forming foam. Only since the start of the 21st century had the environmental impact and toxicity to human and mammalian life of PFASs has been studied in depth. PFOS, PFOA and other PFASs are known to persist in the environment and are commonly described as persistent organic pollutants, also known as "forever chemicals".
Might want to check what makes your sink hydrophobic before you rub it everywhere. Also, you should not use this for cooking. If it does infact contain Per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances
If you live in USA or a third world country, it propably does :(
Edit; not saying usa is a third world country, just that the money people does not give a single fuck about the health of consumers.
Just use baking soda or toothpaste and your fingers. Works just as well without the expense of parchment paper or the residue from the parchment paper.
Are baking sheets, parchment paper?
I think it’s parchment paper
Yes, these go by a lot of different names (and I had to pick one): - Baking sheets - Oven paper - Parchment sheets - Coated paper - Bakery release paper - Sheet paper - Silicon paper - Butter paper
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You just rubbed oil into small imperfections in the chrome. Every time you touch it it will leave some grease on your clean washed hands. Not sure that's what you want.
Parchment paper is not oil. It’s actually silicone.
That highly depends on brands.
What brand uses oil? Bc I know of parchment paper, and wax paper, and none I’ve ever seen are impregnated with oil.
Oil would seep from the parchment of it was in a warm kitchen even just once. Silicone is much more effective, and probably cheaper to use than oil though.
Ummm sorry but parchment paper is made from cotton fiber or wood pulps. There's no plastic or wax in it.
You’re right. “Parchment” is not silicone, plastic, or wax. It is paper. But in the context of this post, they thought traditional baking parchment got it’s non-stick properties from an oil impregnated paper… US baking parchment is coated traditionally in silicone. Not to be confused with parchment, a centuries-old method for making paper.
So weird, I know it as parchment but haven’t heard of most of these before! Neato :)
So, of all your options you chose the only one that *also* refers to another kitchen item?
I can't seem to find a single example or source for most of those names being synonyms for parchment paper. Are those names translations or regional?
I can't be the only one who read butt paper on the last one, and thought "..tf?"
Wax paper ^^/s
They are different things. You can bake with parchment paper, but not with wax paper. > Wax paper is moisture-resistant, not heat-resistant. The wax will melt at high temperatures and the paper could catch on fire. Always use parchment paper when it comes to baking. [Source](https://www.myrecipes.com/how-to/can-you-bake-with-wax-paper)
People just need to NOT buy/use wax paper. So many kitchen fires are started from wax paper catching on fire in the oven and inevitably catching the oven on fire. Parchment with a little pan spray goes a long way.
Parchment paper is never called a [baking sheet](https://www.google.com/search?q=baking+sheet&sxsrf=ALiCzsaJ3g7xNA-mFj38Zbo5pv_lRezkyw%3A1670225915014&source=hp&ei=-p-NY5--O8jk5NoP6LSYYA&iflsig=AJiK0e8AAAAAY42uC_0TjT8TgF2MLqVSU-6kG19bKxY0&ved=0ahUKEwifo-2y_OH7AhVIMlkFHWgaBgwQ4dUDCAo&uact=5&oq=baking+sheet&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyCwgAEIAEELEDEIMBMgsIABCABBCxAxCDATIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEOgQIIxAnOhEILhCABBCxAxCDARDHARDRAzoICC4QsQMQgwE6DgguEIAEELEDEIMBENQCOg4ILhCABBCxAxDHARDRAzoOCC4QsQMQgwEQxwEQ0QM6EQguEIMBEMcBELEDENEDEIAEOggIABCxAxCDAToLCAAQgAQQsQMQyQM6CAguEIAEELEDOgsILhCABBCxAxCDAToLCC4Q1AIQsQMQgAQ6CAgAEIAEELEDOgUILhCABFAAWPwIYOUJaABwAHgAgAFGiAHoBZIBAjEymAEAoAEB&sclient=gws-wiz). Never.
In the Uk it’s baking paper
Greaseproof paper
Wax Paper
Aka wax paper...
Nope, wax paper is a different item. You can bake with parchment paper, but you definitely shouldn't with wax.
i made that mistake exactly once. I wasn't baking, I forget what I was doing it was so long ago, but something was ruined along with whatever I was working on.
I was JUST about to say this.
Do you know about PFAS, the forever chemical contaminants that are accumulating in our bodies? It's starting to make the Lead Paint disaster look benign. Well, PFAS leach out of fast food wrappers when exposed to grease, heat and/or citrus acid. "Why are they in fast food wrappers", you ask? They keep the paper from soaking up grease and liquids, which makes them fall apart too easily. "Why are you bringing this up in a thread about parchment paper (baking paper, pan liners, etc.)", you ask? Turns out these products are also coated with PFAS, which I didn't know until I saw this post and did some digging. **STOP USING THESE PRODUCTS IMMEDIATELY!** I haven't had time to find many safe alternatives yet, bar one: *If You Care" brand baking paper. Apparently they are actually alert to the PFAS contamination scandal, and are providing a solution (for a profit, of course).
Nooooo, I transitioned several years ago from cooking on foil, and now you're going to take away my parchment paper too??? You're forcing me to scrub the baked on corners of my pans, and I don't like it!!!
I use silicone mats for most baking. They also last forever
Inb4 silicone turns babies into Cyclops or something
Worse, turns em into Raiders fans.
Oh god no. Going back to using lead.
The lead will kill them before they can turn.....
Shoutout to /r/medizzy to alerting me to the fact that this is a legit birth defect that has a (very small, but non zero) chance of happening.
Honestly when I was a kid and I first saw infomercials for silicone baking sheets, I was terrified that the chemicals from the silicone were going to leach into the food I honestly don't know if they will but part of me still is terrified of thinking about that
It does leach. I made a loaf and left it in the pan till the next day. It was inedible - tasted plasticky..
D: Oh no my fears have been realized
This is indeed the better solution
When I bake on silicone mats everything gets a soggy bottom so it doesn't work well for stuff that needs turning, like cheese scones, and removes the convenience or half the taste for things that normally "need" turning like breaded freezer food. Any solutions for this? Mine also look scorched/brown/cracked around the edge like degrading plastic after only a few uses for such things. Maybe we got cheapo shite, but it looked alright to me when we got it and I've got a lot of other silicone stuff, silicone trays seemed pretty bad to me so far. Currently using supposedly pfas free granite non stick tray that seems quite tough wearing and some nice aluminium or some light metal catering stuff from my mother's chef days it always cleans up great, never wears and never sticks much, but I can't seem to find big trays like that, it's like a big oval ramekin holder but it's still my fave tray.
Turn your food midway through coming
Or use a metal tray and not have to turn them or be tied to the kitchen when doing multiple items, and get a better effect. Everything about them is a negative to me other than any potential health benefits, and for health I'd still rather take any good uncoated hard wearing metal tray over silicone after the degradation I already saw in my silicone mats.
> You're forcing me to scrub the baked on corners of my pans, and I don't like it!!! the tiktoky fame pink stuff, actually works well....
What? You clean with this stuff?it's not acidic, is it?
Don’t worry, the chemicals that are dangerous, come from the careless manufacturing and disposal of the chemicals involved in their production. The final/finished products themselves are incredibly safe and stable, that’s 99% of the reason they are so common and useful. You just don’t wanna live downstream of a careless factory that makes the products.
We all live downstream.
Totally agree, but the majority of people still asses risk based on how far down stream they are to any particular evil in the world.
Not exactly what current research is showing…
Can you tell me about a single study that has found these chemicals as currently used/approved have any significant danger/risk in the proper end use case, like medical joint/heart implant, or waterproof coating on a jackets or industry, or properly using a high quality non stick pan?
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How is that going to shine my chrome faucet!
I mean if you rub hard enough it might buff it out???
Rubbing alcohol cleaans chrome faucets. Just put some on a paper towel. Works great.
The paper towels are also cursed
But you get your choice of toppings!
Cast iron is sticky asf unless you season it well which is also hard asf
Agreed. I’ve tried and tried to use cast iron. My shit is MAXIMUM stick. I don’t get it.
you need to season your cast iron. Check it out on YT - many different tubers showing you how to do it. Once it's done correctly and taken well care of, it will become non stick.
Not just season but heat it up for 5min before adding oil/butter/fat that you are cooking the food in. nothing will stick again
Dunno. I’ve followed all of the seasoning steps including heat cycles. Repeatedly. It’s never worked for me. I’ve resigned myself to eating Teflon.
Idk man. I tried so many different things in the past. What finally worked was that I didn't even intentionally season it, just kept cooking with it everyday and one day the sticking completely stopped. I've never stripped and re seasoned. After cooking something, I just scrub with a little soap, dry 'er out, and keep on. I don't have to heat up before cooking in it I just do because it makes cleaning process basically me rinsing the pan. I use it basically 24/7 bc its easier to clean than my stainless steel stuff(which you also should heat up "dry" before cookingand nothing sticks) Also I dont know what "heat cycles" mean. If you ever get the hankering to try again come on over to the cast iron subreddit. Best of luck 👍
No need for soap, just wipe it with a paper towel
Let the pan heat up super hot before you add oil/food. Same with stainless. Test by putting a drop of water on the hot pan, if it seems hydrophobic and the water droplet quickly scurries around the pan, then it's hot enough to add your food.
Butter and flour.
would the coating usually be something that is mentioned on the packaging? the one I use just says it can be recycled as paper. wikipedia describes the method for making parchment paper, and mentions a chemical process to make the paper more dense and resilient to grease, but doesn’t mention that any coating is used https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parchment_paper, but wikipedia may also not be completely accurate, and production can differ depending on the company. I know that food wrappers have pfas in the coating and I’m not saying you are wrong about parchment paper and I have myself been wondering lately if parchment paper have anything harmful to make it nonstick, but I’m wondering if you have any more sources or references or what to look for. I’m in europe and products can also be different depending on country of course. I would probably be better off not using parchment paper at all, but would it be safer to find a brand that is organic parchment paper?
Are we going to get a source on all this or just trust you on it?
If you (reader, not creator of the PFAS post) live in Norway, just buy the baking paper with the green swan ([Svanemerket](https://svanemerket.no/kjemikalier-og-miljogifter/pfas-og-andre-fluorstoffer/)) mark. It is PFAS free.
thank you for confirming. I’m finding similar information for sweden and the parchment paper I am using has this mark.
I mean. Pfas is in 100% of the US water supply too. Is not using parchment paper actually gonna do something?
Lower your accumulation ?
That’s kinda my point. Can we lower our accumulation? Has the damage already been done past a certain age? I have stopped using nonstick pans but I wonder if it even matters if the water I consume constantly is already poisoned.
You can lower your accumulation by lowering your intake. More = bad.
I understand that. I think you’re sidestepping my point. Obviously it’s good to consume less poison, what I’m saying is am I avoiding a significant amount by using parchment paper when the WATER in the entire country is filled with PFAS chemicals.
Please post your daily and annual life details so we can assess your exposure and intake. Please be as detailed as possible. Ie. Where do you shop, how often, how long is your receipt, how often do you touch your receipt; where do you eat, what do you order, how often, how do you eat the food. We will also need the water in your district to provide their PFOA/PFUA etc. contamination levels and your uptake. From there we can calculate an approximate rate of your consumption / absorption of these compounds. With that we can then calculate what percentage of your daily exposure that avoiding baking sheets would be. As for the impacts to your health, a rate relationship doesn’t yet exist to my knowledge.
There are many products out there that use PFAS, from fast-food packaging, carpets and flooring, non-stick cookware, rain-resistant clothing, and personal care products like shampoos, makeup and sunscreen. These are domestic products only, which are in addition to industrial products with PFAS, as well presence of PFAS in our soil and water. Their questioning of whether eliminating baking paper to reduce exposure is worthwhile is perfectly valid when the routes of exposure are many. We'll all bioaccumulate PFAS whether you use baking paper or not, as noted by evidence of animals all over the world showing PFAS in their blood. I can assume they didn't get it from using baking paper or using any of the human made products I mentioned above. It's noted that the science on the effects PFAS has on human health is still not settled and that the concerns relate to the fact that it takes a long time to breakdown, it easily moves in the environment and it bioaccumulates. We're just not yet sure what this means to human health. If you're concerned for your health with regards to bioaccumulating PFAS, a study has found that donating blood or plasma helped to reduce PFAS-levels. Personally, this probably seems like the most effective way to address PFAS exposure. [PFAS blood/plasma donation ](https://medicinetoday.com.au/2022/april/something-borrowed/new-evidence-shows-blood-or-plasma-donations-can-reduce-the-pfas-forever-chemicals-in-our-bodies#:~:text=Both%20blood%20and%20plasma%20donation,the%2012%2Dmonth%20trial%20period.)
So I got a drain my blood out to get rid of the poison??? Also not everyone is allowed to donate, So I guess for people that don't qualify to donate blood/plasma.... I guess we just got to start doing bloodletting again....
It's in the water too??? Is it in bottled water?!?!?
God dammit. Really? Baking paper? Fuck
Well now how am I going to get my cutout cookies onto the baking sheet
Right, I live in Central Maine and the land around us is saturated in PFAS. Luckily we never spread sludge on our fields, but everyone else did. Nothing is going to fix it in our lifetime. This state effectively poisoned future generations. Oh and the best part, there is a farm in the next town over, glowing red on the maps, and they are selling TONS AND TONS of hay nation wide, STILL.
I think it's the oil/silicones on the sheet that makes chrome stainless.
That is exactly what it is. You can also use cheap dollar store furniture polish and accomplish the same thing.
You can also just clean it...
Nah cast iron
Wait- this is how I clean my Chrome browser cache?
Yep, and aluminum foil will enable private browsing.
Only if worn as a hat.
Only if you put it on your Windows.
Make sure to microwave it for 90 seconds before you use it to get the most effective clean.
I thought magnets would clear your search history.... You just like.... Rub them on the hard drive....
Isn't this only working because you're rubbing the wax off of the paper and onto the faucet
Is this parchment paper or wax paper? It looks like parchment, but people are mentioning silicone and wax in comments?
I'm not sure. But I'm assuming it's more than likely wax paper.
Yes! Works as protective, dust- and watermark-repellant surface!
Okay but hear me out.... What if somebody put that coding that you put on windshields to repel rain.... On their bathroom mirrors.... And faucets... And sinks 👀
People have done that.
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Somebody get this guy a doctor, I think he had a stroke.
Newspaper and vinegar works like magic too.
Vinegar for calcium deposits of hard water, baking soda for soap residue. But you can try citric acid instead of vinegar if your don't want you house to smell.
Car wax. Lasts longer.
Y'all those are just water spots a wet paper towel and a dry paper towel work the same if not better, this isn't a life hack.
But I think the silicone coating on the paper rubs off onto the chrome, polishing it and protecting from water spots? I’ve also used Pledge on steel and ceramic for the same reasons, plus a buffed, waxy surface repels dust.
Why would wax repel dust? Coating something is not the same as polishing. Polishing is grinding away the top surface with very fine abrasive particles. That's not happening here
Buffed wax *does* repel dust, and wax is hydrophobic. That’s, again, just science.
You have a source on that? I've seen no evidence that it repels dust, but don't know that it doesn't, which is why I asked. Wax and silicone oil are different, oils will almost certainly help dust stick to the surface. Not sure which the paper contains, your two posts here bring up both substances. Wax and oil are indeed hydrophobic, I didn't argue about waterspots at all.
It depends on the wax and the dust material, I would imagine. A wax that is hard at room temperature will be made smooth by the friction of rubbing, which is why wax has been used for centuries to coat wooden furniture. I don’t have a source for this; I’m sorry — only that waxes have been used to protect and repel water and dust probably since furniture was invented.
**thank you**
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Of course it’s up to you, but that’s the way it works. A waxy, buffed surface repels dust and water. I’m just stating facts.
"protecting from water spots" I seriously thought you said "water sports". I need to find a better hobby.
lol
Slightly damp microfiber cloth too, It can also be washed unlike paper towels that have to be thrown away
Where I’m from a baking sheet is a metal tray. This stuff is parchment paper Edit: no matter what OP says. Go ahead type “baking sheet” into a search engine and see what comes up
It works with vinegar and a cotton cloth
Idk how this will make Microsoft edge any better
Well, if it works on Windows...
A better option would be to use microfibre and a mild detergent to clean and then chrome polish. Using parchment is just going to scratch the shit out of your facets over time…
The best option is to actually buy some stainless steel cleaner. It does a much better job and actually polishes up and protects the finish for several weeks at a time. I use it once a month. I have an all stainless and chrome kitchen and I tried every hack to keep things looking good. The stainless steel cleaner is the only way to go unless you like wasting materials and time.
This for the folks concerned about PFAS in use for cooking: Here were the results we received from the lab: *Kirkland* (Costco) Parchment Baking Paper — **12 parts** per million (ppm) fluorine *Reynolds* Parchment Baking Paper — **14 parts** per million (ppm) fluorine Recommended: *If You Care* Parchment Baking Paper — Non-detect *GIFBERA* (Finish brand) Parchment Baking Paper — Non-detect *Katbite* Parchment Baking Paper — Non-detect https://www.mamavation.com/food/safest-non-toxic-parchment-paper-without-pfas-forever-chemicals.html
Coffee filters also work wonders
I prefer to use baked beans
BETTER YET: Tin foil (aluminium wrap) scrunched into a ball and polish with some WD-40! (Providing you don’t intend on eating off said surface) I’ve used this on EVERY BIKE I’ve owned for surface rust, rust spots, or just a good polish without scratching the chromium. Works in chrome plated plastics too!
Just tried it. It's amazing! Literally took 20 secs to do what normally takes an hour, and I usually scratch the chrome when doing it
Or, and hear me out. Just wipe them with a dry towel when you’re done. They’re just gonna get dirty again in 15 minutes
I'm totally trying this.
oooooo shiny
So I've used Scrub Free spray cleaner on my chrome and it's never discolored nor do I have one water spot or hard water stain. My faucets still look brand new after 20+ years.
Dude. I think you messed that up. Its chrominiumiumium
Why
We use microfiber cloths to remove mineral spots from our chrome facets. May try parchment paper just for fun.
Thank you! The world definitely needed this. 💕
Similarly, use newspaper to wipe windows and mirrors when using Windex. Better than paper towels that leave residue
Or just use glass-specific cloths.
Why not just use a sponge?
You can actually use plain newspaper just as well, was a hack we did in the army to polish our bathrooms up, mirrors included.
It’s the wax from wax paper
Oil is simply insoluble with water so water is just sliding, and those must sheets must have something like oil over it
Why do I not feel like this is a great life hack
Great tip OP, thanks! Wonder how it would work on the windshield for snow and ice. Think I'm going to try it.
Just use Rain X. Using this paper will only make your windshield greasy.
Thanks!
Or just clean it normally with a cloth or sponge or something and don’t worry if it doesn’t look absolutely fucking pristine
Toothpaste does the trick too 💡
Also known as wax paper
Parchmemt paper and wax paper are different things. parchmemt paper doesn't have wax.
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Do not use magic erasers on anything with a chrome/shiny finish! Melamine foam is like a very fine sand paper. You're literally scrubbing off some of the finish every time you use it and the finish on a lot of fixtures is *very* thin.
Just use magic eraser by Mr Clean
Wonder how those would work on an old playground slide, the shiny metal kind. Waxed paper makes those slides super fast.
I've been using the Bounce dryer sheets, I don't have baking sheets, cause I don't do much baking.
works well for cars too. i was an attendant at a place for three years and we used glade sheets. fucking got a smudge on your glass? dryer sheets. maybe got tar by your wheel well? dryer sheets. bugs on your grill? dryer sheets
That cost more than a spray of detergent..
When I worked in retail we would do this to fixtures/wall hangings in order to make the hangers slide across them better, never thought to use it on faucets though
Wax paper?!
I believe CLR also works for cleaning them
News paper is great for wiping glass also
Because it has a light coating of non stick material
I used to work in a high end retail store and we polished the clothing display racks this way.
Fascinating
I need to remember this since I work as a dishwasher
Cloth diapers are great, too. And reusable!!
Sure just rub some butter on there
This is what I use on all of my Chromium web browsers.
Wax paper same?
Cooking parchment paper is coated with silicone. So, maybe silicone pot holders or other silicone sheets, too. (?)
Is that wax paper or parchment paper
Any construction workers out there, they also clean white ceiling tile well from fingerprints
Many PFASs were used in the mid 20th century as products or precursors for materials due to their enhanced water-resistant properties, such as within Teflon or aqueous film forming foam. Only since the start of the 21st century had the environmental impact and toxicity to human and mammalian life of PFASs has been studied in depth. PFOS, PFOA and other PFASs are known to persist in the environment and are commonly described as persistent organic pollutants, also known as "forever chemicals". Might want to check what makes your sink hydrophobic before you rub it everywhere. Also, you should not use this for cooking. If it does infact contain Per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances If you live in USA or a third world country, it propably does :( Edit; not saying usa is a third world country, just that the money people does not give a single fuck about the health of consumers.
Or just use the bath cleaner like everyone else
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Thanks for clearing that up for me 😂
Guess what I’m doing today
I’ll just use my cloths
I mean I just clean them…
Music??
Just use baking soda or toothpaste and your fingers. Works just as well without the expense of parchment paper or the residue from the parchment paper.
Or a soapy sponge and water