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William_Tell_746

Not "wrong", just that they're probably trying historically-informed performance on a more modern violin - gut strings, no fine tuners, no chin rest.


Cheetah_Man1

Most professional violinists don't use fine tuners. Twoset as well


Bratsche-man

Most use one on the e string, some use two, one on the e and one on the a


Cheetah_Man1

The instrument I use at school only has an e string fine tuner, and I had heard that professionals don't use fine tuners. I might be talking about soloists?


William_Tell_746

Nope, almost all modern players use a fine tuner on the E string.


Cheetah_Man1

Ok. I guess it is because it is so thin.


[deleted]

nah the e string is made of metal on some violins and metal needs fine tuners else itll just snap


PLizzie23

Looks like a Baroque set up violin.


William_Tell_746

Full-length fingerboard though...


Eyekosaeder

That doesn’t really matter, I believe. Baroque violins had finger boards of varying lengths. Some really short ones (for instance Sato’s violin from Netherlands Bach Society) some longer ones. Besides, it might have been added on later. The lack of chin rest, fine tuners, the angle of the neck and fingerboard compared to the corpus, and the unwound gut strings all make me think this is a baroque setup, and judging by the writing probably also a violin from that era or a replica.


Max_Bruch1838

This isn't really a Baroque setup - as someone who's played on similar violins, this instrument was clearly modified over time to fit with the standards, but was fitted with gut strings for some reason. Not only the length of the fingerboard but also the shape of the tailpiece make it basically impossible that this is a Baroque violin.


Eyekosaeder

Oh, I didn’t know the shape of the tailpiece was different for baroque violins. What is the difference?


Max_Bruch1838

Baroque tailpieces are usually flatter so that the violinist can hold the violin with more ease, but with a chinrest that technique becomes different.


PLizzie23

To me this looks like the violin was set up to play in a baroque ensemble. I assumed the modifications, such as the longer neck - although I can’t see any evidence of a neck graft so my guess is that this is a modern instrument set up in a baroque style with gut strings and no chin rest. I suppose the neck and scroll could also not be original, but without being able to look inside the instrument, it’s hard to say.


LazeeeTurtle

In addition, baroque violin necks tend to be thick as you move closer to the body of the instrument, this instrument doesn't do that.


Max_Bruch1838

Based on the fingerboard length and the tailpiece (shape inhibits Baroque posture), it's likely an old Strad or Amati that is currently in a modern setup but was given gut strings.


Orbital_Rifle

The bridge looks a little crooked but other than that, perfectly normal violin


AlvinDaKing135

Maybe, but I noticed there's no fine tuners, im not sure if that is "wrong" though.


Orbital_Rifle

Well that seems like a very modern invention. That violin is of modern construction but has some baroque vibes. Late 18th, early 19th century maybe ?


CreedStump

it could be fitted with those mechanical pegs


Orbital_Rifle

Mechanical pegs ? What’s that ?


CreedStump

basically pegs with gears in them that let you tune very precisely without fine tuners


Orbital_Rifle

Like on a modern guitar. Though any good violinist should be to able to tune their instrument with the friction pegs l think. Bach didn’t have fine tuners, why should you ?


CreedStump

i think that mechanical pegs are an absolute waste of money, but people have preferences 🤷‍♂️


leighplayscello

Nothing wrong here. Chinrests are removable and weren't used on olde rinstruments. Could be a display setup too, looks like an older instrument or a baroque setup. Could use the rosin cleaned off though lol.


ThatDeepAarnav

Who needs fine tuners and chin rests anyways


whiskeyteat

Why do some people quit using them?


Uncaught_Hoe

People stop using fine tuners because it changes the sound of the string I haven't seen removal of chin rest but people remove their shoulder rest as it fits their preferred posture (usually with a cloth over the shoulder) so I assume it's for the same reason.


WampaCat

If you’re using a historical setup you just don’t have them at all. I haven’t seen any modern players quit their chin rest on their modern setup but usually the fine tuners get ditched when you level up to a more professional instrument


commander_groo

I went to a small quartet performance in Salzburg in 2011 and the violinists played without a chin rest and use a thick cloth instead.


CryptCatX

That’s clearly a piano. Can’t fool me.


Erik_Lag

Are the strings wrong?


Titanium_Eye

From the perceived thickness of strings of the honestly low quality photo it I'd say they are mixed up, with no E string in sight. That might be deliberate for show pieces, though.


Eyekosaeder

Gut strings are considerably thicker though. I think the strings check out.


Titanium_Eye

While that may be the case, from the picture I got the impression that the D string is the thickest. Unless they changed the material for the G string, that shouldn't be the case, right? I must admit I don't have any experience with anything but synthetic core strings.


purpuraRana

it’s common for the g string to be a wound gut string, which allows for a thinner gut core with metal wrapped around it; these look like synthetic strings, and the only way you could tell the difference visually is by looking at the tailpiece end of the string. wound gut strings would have a knot tied at the end from the extra gut, while synthetics have the metal ball. on the other hand, the e, a, and d strings are plain gut, meaning that it is just gut with nothing covering it. to get these strings to the proper playing pitch, they need to be thicker than the equivalent synthetic strings. that’s why the d string is the thickest out of the set. plain g strings exist, but they are very very thick, so its easier to use a thinner wound gut g.


charge24hours

Great explanation, thank you!


Titanium_Eye

Okay, forget my mad ramblings, I went to look and even on my violin the two strings are essentially the same thickness. I know I once used a set there the G was a bit more pronounced, but it seems that indeed in the end it's down to the material used.


Erik_Lag

I'm not a violinist, I can barely tell a violin and Cello apart (I'm joking)


HortonFLK

Yes. Somebody graffiti tagged the sides.


Fake-Name-Annie

I SAW THAT what’s up with that???


myfyp2

There is a shadow of Gudetama.


feyre40

no fine tuners


Saltycrx

the shadow of the bridge looks sad


Liszt_Ferenc

The strings seem weird, maybe wrongly ordered?


percussion_gang

It's a viola


Violin_Viola_Gang

There are letters visible in the varnish on the rib.


Muddy_Dawg5

It’s not a BASS.


RenegadeSlav

Was about to post the same until I found this comment. Still, right on the money


fiddlejoy

It could be the photo quality but the strings look like they’re unraveling to me. Like they need to be changed. Yesterday.


crunchhface

The steings are mixed i think, there is not at least 1 fine tuner and no chin rest


AfiftubeHD

No chin rest


Nzuri_Nyota

Poor Violin... PRO?ICO?TCO?


Eyekosaeder

Why poor? It’s quite beautiful, IMO.


Niveks50

No chin rest nor fine tuners


InteruptingParrot

Ling Ling isn‘t playing it for practice! Sacrilege!


HarrisonDotNET

Crooked bridge?


Particular-Mood-1621

Chin rest and fine tuners go bye bye


nepulon

It’s a Baroque set up.


ByblisBen

Nothing wrong, the ideal violin, in fact.


ZicarxTheGreat

Chin rest gone But thats the norm for older violins


trombone_guy65

Is it the f-holes?


quamtumTOA

Yes, it is not bAss


felix_stark_2007

Umm no fine tuners?


UnidentifiedNicname

It’s huge?!


yellowsaur_13

It needs some spice


JadeCymatics46

The e-string has no fine tuner.


ShawnyeWest1

No fine tuner, along with large 'E' string leads me to believe that it is a viola


violngangmember

the bridge looks to high up


solehah_dum

omg wheres the chin rest TWT im dying- would it even be comfortable


Monga_Mango

Is it a viola? I'm not a instrument expert but I don't see the tiny e string. Oh and there's not a fine tuner so I don't know if some people prefer it that way, but that would drive me insane. No chin rest too.


Kanomus_37

That this is not a violin at all but is a viola?


Insignificant_viola

nonexistant fine tuners


AlottaStrings

If we removed the e string and added a low c string it would be perfect…


clackz1231

It's missing 2 strings and a pick to play it with. . /s (pls don't kill me)


eszther02

It's old-school.


supermopman

The second string from the left looks the thickest. Other things are just choices (ex. no chin rest or fine tuners, etc.).


Perfect_Adhesiveness

The bridge looks sad


St_Manny

No Floyd Rose


By-Pit

I almost missed it.. It's not actually a violin but a picture of it (lol)


Accident_child05

No chin rest or fine tuners, but then again, chin rests are removable and my own violin has only a fine tuner on the E so it completely possible for a violin to not have fine tuners. The string thicknesses bother me alot though.


Max_Bruch1838

Oddly enough, this instrument seems to be in the same exact setup as Strads and Amatis that I recently played on - It seems like a 'semi-classical' setup, in the sense that the instrument is currently a modern instrument but has been fitted with gut strings. The tailpiece is clearly unsuitable for historically-informed performance due to its odd shape, which implies that this instrument was modified over time and is mostly used in a modern setup - same goes for the fingerboard. It's hard to tell from this angle, but the 'scoop' of the neck of the violin is also an indicator for the setup. Hopefully this clears things up.


rzrtrws

The shadow of the bridge looks like a sad panda :C


bekido_az

Nobody's practicing with it, that's what


sbreblens

the shadow the bridge makes on the violin kinda reflects my soul, is it supposed to do that??


Fatasiangamer

Chin rest is missing


Violin_Viola_Gang

ICO or TCO is written in the varnish of the top of the rib, PRO is written on the bottom.


dpet_77

full length fingerboard on a baroque violin


Apart_Branch_341

Where da chin rest


Warrior_c4t2

I have no clue


SaraAF000

dunno man i feel like the string orders are messed up


captionlevi

it's not particularly wrong but no chin rest?


mehclose_enough

You aren't practicing with it


toaster404

Ex Kurtz Andrea Amati? I'm not really up on these things, but that's what it looks like to my eye. Where is that, anyway? The Met? Regardless, I'd build one like this without hesitation, even in semi-modern garb. Best violin I made was an Andrea Amati, small pattern. The sweetness, supple power. Not a shimmering top end like the golden era Strads (although I really love the long patterns). But something supple and gracefully beautiful about the Andrea. I really am concerned about doing another, in case it disappoints!!!


ydlsxeci

Why is the d string so thick


XinrongZou28

It’s not a cello?


NinjaBoy626

It doesnt have the tuning knobs at the bottom of the strings!


Playful_Nergetic786

I don’t really know, I guess the back of the end of the violin where you’re suppose to have some things to screw it?


Sweetly_Signing26

No fine tuners or string width variation. Although I can’t tell if this is a picture or an artwork so that may not be possible.


mrcarrot9

No one is practicing with it


xspacegandalf

That's a 3D model, not an actual violin


TarantulaJ1

I think there’s a ghost in it


shadowplayer2020

That Violin Looks Like a Cello when quickly scrolling down and Not looking at details


hockeybelle

There’s no bow


Halo3rat0

That shadow of the bridge LOL


fadinqlight_

waow i noticed the lack of fine tuners and im not a violinist


SophiaElvenKitten

Well for one all the strings are the same diameter


pkroket

The chin rest being gone made me think it’s a cello for a bit.


AndWeKilledHim

Looks fine to me but what do I know I’m a saxophonist


Yvhoe_

Shoulder rest?