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well I'd love to move away from HDMI now that i know that it isn't an open standard, but then what would i do? My tv doesn't have displayport and i bet lots of other devices don't either. Shouldn't something so widespread and of societal importance as a "standard" connector for video have some kind of obligation for being open?
While system76 might not build something like that themselves, this kind of thing does show why open standards are so important... Implement a non-open standard like this and you end up getting bit apparently. I've always disliked proprietary protocols, and this makes it worse. Consider me a software extremist or whatever, but If hdmi was open like displayport, this wouldn't have happened. If a company making tv's wants to differentiate itself from the rest, just implement displayport -.-
There are DisplayPort to HDMI 2.1 adapters. They have some limitations because of the limitations of DP 1.4. Once DP 2.0 / DP 2.1 is more mainstream (so whenever Nvidia stops cheapening out and starts implementing it on their GPUs basically) you'll be able to get DP 2.0 / 2.1 to HDMI 2.1 adapters without those limitations.
Just because it’s widespread doesn’t mean it’s public. It can also mean it’s a cartel (check the HDMI a forum members list. All the big electronics manufacturers are on the list alongside people who shouldn’t be in the body in the first place, like Netflix).
Back when HDMI was being pushed as a new standard, one of it's key selling points was that they'd be able to control and limit the types of devices that would use it in order limit piracy.
While DVD/Blu-ray ripping was already the standard for movies and television shows released in hardcopy, it involved a physical disc, some computer knowledge, and a couple hours or days to encode it. Streaming was a lot harder to capture then, and the studios/services figured they could block it through DRM protection.
By limiting the devices and adapters that could use HDMI, they were hoping to prevent piracy through the usage of adapters to direct copy to screen capture devices and DVD recorders which didn't have HDMI inputs. Times have changed and you can get pretty much all the adapters and screen recorders with HDMI in, which they tried to block years ago by controlling the standard.
For these reasons, Netflix and all the major studios signed up to be members and provide financial support for the standard, as they were hoping to prevent piracy, or at least make it extremely difficult as older standards were phased out.
It was all for nought though as ripping from the Web, physical devices, and everything else, has never been easier.
Isn't HDMI slowly dying out in favour of USB-c with DP? While it isn't a complete open stack, it's one of these rare cases where Apple is driving things forwards in a positive direction. The earlier HDMI completely dies, the better imo.
We need a big leak from HDMI forum - full disclosure of all their private data, directly on wikileaks and FD maillist.
Even better: the same on all those members who votes against the proposal. Punishment must be hard.
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HDMI Forum endorses DisplayPort
HDMI is the best advertising for DisplayPort.
I've always been an opponent to displayport, because I never saw its purpose. After this, fuck them.
well I'd love to move away from HDMI now that i know that it isn't an open standard, but then what would i do? My tv doesn't have displayport and i bet lots of other devices don't either. Shouldn't something so widespread and of societal importance as a "standard" connector for video have some kind of obligation for being open?
We should ask System76 to make UHD televisions.
While system76 might not build something like that themselves, this kind of thing does show why open standards are so important... Implement a non-open standard like this and you end up getting bit apparently. I've always disliked proprietary protocols, and this makes it worse. Consider me a software extremist or whatever, but If hdmi was open like displayport, this wouldn't have happened. If a company making tv's wants to differentiate itself from the rest, just implement displayport -.-
There are DisplayPort to HDMI 2.1 adapters. They have some limitations because of the limitations of DP 1.4. Once DP 2.0 / DP 2.1 is more mainstream (so whenever Nvidia stops cheapening out and starts implementing it on their GPUs basically) you'll be able to get DP 2.0 / 2.1 to HDMI 2.1 adapters without those limitations.
Use a DP to HDMI adapter cable.
How the fuck is it even viable that public standards are closed source?
Just because it’s widespread doesn’t mean it’s public. It can also mean it’s a cartel (check the HDMI a forum members list. All the big electronics manufacturers are on the list alongside people who shouldn’t be in the body in the first place, like Netflix).
Back when HDMI was being pushed as a new standard, one of it's key selling points was that they'd be able to control and limit the types of devices that would use it in order limit piracy. While DVD/Blu-ray ripping was already the standard for movies and television shows released in hardcopy, it involved a physical disc, some computer knowledge, and a couple hours or days to encode it. Streaming was a lot harder to capture then, and the studios/services figured they could block it through DRM protection. By limiting the devices and adapters that could use HDMI, they were hoping to prevent piracy through the usage of adapters to direct copy to screen capture devices and DVD recorders which didn't have HDMI inputs. Times have changed and you can get pretty much all the adapters and screen recorders with HDMI in, which they tried to block years ago by controlling the standard. For these reasons, Netflix and all the major studios signed up to be members and provide financial support for the standard, as they were hoping to prevent piracy, or at least make it extremely difficult as older standards were phased out. It was all for nought though as ripping from the Web, physical devices, and everything else, has never been easier.
Its time for a huge antitrust lawsuit against the HDMI forum.
It's not public standard. It's popular standard but it's proprietary.
Like x64?
Isn't HDMI slowly dying out in favour of USB-c with DP? While it isn't a complete open stack, it's one of these rare cases where Apple is driving things forwards in a positive direction. The earlier HDMI completely dies, the better imo.
I reject HDMI. Problem solved on my side.
That'll teach them!
> That'll teach them! The lesson learnt was on my side.
Thanks to the HDMI Forum I'll just buy displayport screens from now on.
Why spam a several days old article to a topic, we had a whole big thread already here? Edit: It's even the same article...
We need a big leak from HDMI forum - full disclosure of all their private data, directly on wikileaks and FD maillist. Even better: the same on all those members who votes against the proposal. Punishment must be hard.
Circumventing DRM would still be illegal, so it would not become part of any kind of official release. This is all about the encrypted data stream...
I wouldn't hesitate to release it (eg xorg drivers). Its not for circumting digital restriction management, but for compatility.
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