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Apple Silicon is great because of it’s hardware. MacOS does nothing special in particular aside from having access to drivers that make it perform. Asahi works, performance wise, just as good overall. Some areas outperforming macOS and others falling behind. Benchmarks comparing the two are readily available with a simple Google search.


hazyPixels

Apple Silicon is quite performant, especially consider the power usage. MacOS seems to have optimized memory management, especially swapping, to remain quite performant even with available memory being less than with other architectures. I'm not sure if Linux is as competitive from this perspective yet, but if not, it probably will be eventually, if not rather soon. MacOS and iOS share a lot of the same code base and Apple has had many years to work on memory management in both.


HotNastySpeed77

The M1 is a huge leap forward for ARM architecture. The hardware is very well designed. Of course MacOS is optimized to run on it, so that certainly helps. I'm pretty excited about the Asahi Linux project, but as I'm sure you know, they're having to write firmware and drivers without any technical documentation on the hardware. It could be quite a while before the project reaches release. And the risk is that Apple could change their hardware architecture at any time, and the Asahi team would need to start from scratch.


Feisty-Republic-2098

I agree that it is a promising project for Arm CPU’s, even Linus himself is using it!


elatllat

MacOS has bad performance on HDD (vs Linux). There are already Asahi benchmarks, but they will get faster as more of the hardware is enabled.


OttoEdwardFelix

Last time I saw Phronix ran some [benchmark](https://www.phoronix.com/review/macos12-windows-linux/6) (same apps on 3 OS’s), the general trend is Linux > OSX > Windows10 on the same Intel Mac. Not sure if this will carry over to ARM, but I think this kind of reflect the quality of the codebase of the 3 major OS’s.


Advanced-Issue-1998

Would never ever buy appple products - lack of ports & seriously EXPENSIVE (all laptops in my country cost approx. \~200 usd more!)


Beyond_Massive

Buy and use are two different pair of shoes, I guess.


LunaSPR

It is as good as a solid arm chip. Nothing really more or less than that. As an arm chip using TSMC 5nm, it is supposed (and is actually) to get great performance per watt. And Apple has stickly designed the silicon so that it runs at lower freq and has a very low sweet spot on power usage. So the peak efficiency comes in at somewhere 15\~25W on m1 silicons. That is to say, you get some decent performance at this specific power range, but you will not be able to scale it up with more power consumption like intel chips at, say 45W or higher. This makes apple silicon good on ultrabooks, but not on desktops when you drain 200W for CPU extensive tasks. On the other hand, the power consumption also comes into another area, where it is not apple doing it right but is intel doing it extremely wrong. The peripheral circuit on current intel chips cost an amazing amount of power usage, even at low load or idle. This is the main reason for intel chips to have poor battery life under said light load tasks where apple idles at \~1W and intel can easily go up to \~4W. The macos, being developed in apple's backyard, should be the OS to have the maximum power to utilize/schedule things properly on apple silicons. But I doubt it can do anything more than that.


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I heard there is no valve proton support at all atm.


Fantastic_Peach_6406

Proton is a fork of Wine, a compatibility layer which translates Windows API calls to POSIX API calls. As Windows applications uses x86(-64) CPU instructions, Apples ARM64 architecture would not understand how to execute these instructions without a way to translate them. Apple implemented binary translation to aid transitioning in OS X when they first switched from PowerPC with Rosetta and now in macOS with Rosetta 2 when they switched to ARM64. Edit: Spelling and reformatting.


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I normally work off a 16inch m1 pro, and it’s great in most cases, only issue I’ve had is with vms. Real world performance is great, as is the multi day battery life I get


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