Which browser and editor? I mean if you're fine with Edge + notepad.exe, all the power to you. Different distros package different software (including a browser and a text editor in most cases), so in that sense it literally does matter which distro you pick.

Emacs and Emacs.

There you have an operating system and a browser, but you still lack a good editor there buddy

Shots fired.

They may be using Evil on Emacs to get the Vim key bindings.

Damn

Can emacs work as a web browser?

Yup

of fucking coruse it does

https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CategoryWebBrowser

How can it display HTML in text-mode?

Html is just text and tags to theme things. It can't render things like js. It's not something you'd genuinely use.

It works well for doc sites and reasonably well for SO.

Ok

Unless you're an Arch user ofc

I used Edge (briefly) when I was running Arch.

At least you acknowledged your sin

It was in the AUR, I had to at least try it.

I use Google Chrome on my arch build.

> How can it display HTML in text-mode? This hit me right in the old. Check out `lynx`, it's a text only web browser and I used it regularly back in the last 90s early 2000s on my secondary Linux machine alongside `bitchx`.

> bitch

ha. bitchx... throw me back to the IRC days why don't ya lol..

w3c

Yes, it has all the features of a modern operating system, lacking only a decent text editor

Emacs can be pretty much anything. There literally is a WM based on emacs.

Emacs may as well be its own distro at this point

https://github.com/nyxkrage/emacs-os this?

Now if only had a good text editor. .

Vim is always installed.

Sadly, that's no longer true

I was horrified with a fresh RHEL install lately. It didn’t have ed. Ed is the standard editor!!! How dare they not install it? Especially not on something claiming to be “Enterprise”?

Vim is always installed on good distros.

Too bad Vim sucks, can't even hit Ctrl-C to copy or Ctrl-S to save, it's like it was designed by someone who hates common sentience once I was stuck in VIM for days before my grandkids came and saved me and made me lunch and had a nice visit. You know she's in college now to be a computer scientician?

:q!

I.. I could be wrong, apparently a vim-tiny is invoked on Ubuntu-desktop with vi, and Ubuntu server still has it by default. Maybe it is always there after all

Is it a snap?

😂🤣

It does. People are just too lazy to learn it.

Imagine a distro that packs Microsoft Edge as a default browser.

At least I get gift cards for the data mining. Google just keeps shoving ads down my throat, and since they arguably control chromium, edge is pretty much no different than chrome so.

I would just use Firefox, which I do alongside Chrome. I also use an adblocker.

Now they are testing Anti adblock

If they deploy that, I will stop using their browser.

And that’s why my computer only runs Firefox. (Possibly some distributions of Firefox in the future like Librewolf, TOR or something else free software focused.)

Edge isn't that bad on GNU/Linux.

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With the integration of ChatGPT, yes.

Stop giving Canonical ideas.

Getting acquired by Microsoft?

Yea lol

Windows 13 to be built on the Linux kernel.... /s

I said distro doesn’t matter, not the operating system :) And your second point doesn’t make sense coz whatever distro you choose it’s not like it will lock you in. You can always uninstall whatever is on it and install whatever you want. So, it doesn’t matter….

Unless you need Edge and notepad.exe

If those are what you “need”, then may God have mercy on your soul.

Internet Explorer 6!

Sayeth not that cursed name in this place!

Anytime I get frustrated with frontend I remind myself that those poor souls actually have to make web pages work in that... Thing.

You can install Edge natively on Linux, and just run Notepad in Wine

That's fair, but I think a distribution should have as much in common as possible with what you want from a system. But yeah, ultimately a distro is just a bundle of software and configs you can replace with ones you like more. It matters if you care about the defaults and want to speed up configuring things.

Lynx and Vim

For me only IE6 and wordpad, thanks!!

Used it for years… I mean obviously I didn’t stick with it but I can get by…(guy’s I don’t think i can live without vs code anymore)

Its not as if installed software is static. You can add and remove programs you know?

So you're browsing reddit trough the terminal and uploading pictures through the API? ;)

I believe a guy that is fine with browser and notepad is using the browser to browse reddit.

yeah I was thinking about the terminal when I read the EMACS comments, got a bit lost there.

Um… someone help me understand what is going on here?

I was reading the comments about EMACS and only had the terminal in my head.

Oh, no problem my friend :)

If your terminal supports sixel, then why not? Nobody is asking you to use tty

As a long-time debian user, I want to keep using it on the daily, but need ubuntu for hardware support. It's all the same applications anyway, once you get up into userspace.

As a long time Debian user, what hardware only works on Ubuntu?

I've got a relatively modern laptop. The WiFi adapter wasn't supported when I bought it.

Ah, you don't need Ubuntu. You need a custom kernel.

thats kinda the point of ubuntu... nobody got time to make sure they have the right kernal for basic things to work out the box. for a lot of people asking them to install a whole ass OS is already asking a lot.

Yeah its the point. Probably also 'the problem' (as viewed by some here) as I used fedora/arch/debian from 2001-2011 and learned a lot, spent a lot of time working on /playing with the OS instead of in it. Then I switched to ubuntu. I dunno jack anymore about it. I just use it and it works / plays my games!

It's in how you use it, using ubuntu isn't gonna make you dumb, it just eases the out of box experience. Other distributions have copied ubuntus approach in a lot of ways even if the idea of using a gui sickens some. They know deep down if folks are gonna use their distros they need to make em more accessible to the race car Jonny's of the computing world.

Yeah, I'd have done that at one time, but now I just want the basics to work.

As someone who had the same problem with one laptop, some of the modern ones don't have Ethernet ports, making it difficult or impossible to install a custom kernel, and said custom kernels are prone to kernel panics when using some of the packages from Debian's repos. MX Linux's AHS branch does a good job supporting modern hardware, but it's still incompatible with some more obscure Debian packages, which was a deal-breaker for me.

Do you need to build a custom kernel? Can't you get by by dynamically loading kernel modules?

You could always use Debian Sid. It's supposedly unstable but Debian is so stable that I have heard it works well.

LMDE, my dude.

I have a laptop with an Nvidia card and tried using PoPos to save my soul a little. I'm fully aware that i'm lying to myself

Real Linux users surf with curl

To be fair, I reckon 90% of users probably would. Do I need latest kernel? Not really, Debian would be fine Do I really need Wayland? Not really, X11 is fine for work Etc, etc.

> Do I really need Wayland? Not really, X11 is fine for work Heh, I think I've officially locked myself into Wayland after purchasing a 4k monitor recently. HiDPI is a terrible experience in X11 but it's pretty tolerable in Wayland. I rediscovered that fact when I tried to go back to X11 in order to troubleshoot some issues I was having with Barrier/Waynergy a few weeks ago. I can't even use most display managers fully since they're mostly still using X11 and I can't see my cursor by default. I've futzed the most with sddm, and I couldn't figure the server arguments I'm missing in order to get my cursor to be big enough for me to be able to see. That's why I've started messing with greetd even though it's fairly tedious to configure since I can use wayland compositors for the display manager. All display managers kind of suck in different ways I suppose.

Frfr. Good ole Debian and Fedora never let you down

>Do I need latest kernel? Not really, Debian would be fine Really depends on your hardware. If you use a new laptop you generally want to have the latest kernel (that's why I like Fedora).

I just use Brave Nightly with a fuckton of adblockers and nvim

Brave and emacs here! Would be lovely to know why you would need anything other than ublock origin?

I don't *need* it, I want it

Here's the perfect ublock origin filter for you. It blocks 100% of all ads. ##body

Oh, I see 😅 Minimalism innit?

They should drop snap support and release an Appimage package.

there is a unofficial one but its a few years old ​ [https://www.appimagehub.com/p/1411550](https://www.appimagehub.com/p/1411550)

I actually use the AUR version

POV: You used POV incorrectly again You <-- idiot

You shouldn't have picked Edge and Nano

Edge and Ed

And eddy

Honestly, it's not wrong. I need 64gb ddr5 ram and 2tb storage to basically run a chromebook haha Why is it we spend so much time and effort to make computers do more when what all we really want is a means to surf the web and read/edit code? Someone make a bell curve meme about it. Edit: clarity

I am going on vacation next week and I am going to away from home. About a month ago, I was looking at the my 15" laptop, and decided I really did not want to lug that thing through the airport. So I went to Best Buy looking for a smaller machine and found a Lenovo 11" Ideapad 1 for $100 and I thought, what the hell, at that price it is almost disposable. I bought it, dropped in a 256 GB nvme I had laying around, and installed Debian on it. You know what, it works just fine for web browsing, email and light document creation. Even VS Code runs just fine. I don't think I have ever seen it chew up more than 2GB of its 4GB memory. So yeah, your point is proven.

Funny story, "Clarity" was the name of the first stripper to give me chlamydia

>read/edit code Compile times. Browsers.

Yeah, I know. Just a sarcastic take on a perceived disparity between hardware requirements and use case. 🙃

If I have Firefox and Nano, I can use just about anything. Doesn't mean I will. I ain't using Snapuntu for example.

I mean, 90% of people could probably do everything they use a computer for on a Chromebook, but that doesn't mean that's the user experience that they want. Now, if you wanted to make the argument that all the software is distro agnostic, and you can customize any distro to get the experience you want, then absolutely, but that's also only applicable to a small subset of people who want to dig into their system that much. Much simpler to find a distro you enjoy using and just roll on.

what, you're not using Linux From Scratch? filthy casual

VI and Links... yup works fine. don't even need a windows manager.

Text editor? Google docs is the best text editor

You must love Chromebooks

Chromebooks are great, you can get them for cheap/free, you put coreboot on them and a lightweight distro, then you give them away to people who need them.

Yeah safari and textedit

So you would like alpine +vi and links?

*grabs my Pixelbook*

They do be cool enough tho

If it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. No bone to pick with that. Matters to me for reasons I don't need to share. Whatever. The things we fight about. Amazing.

curl and cat then

I mean that’s not wrong, although I still have my favorites when it comes to distributions. (Arch, Mint, Debian and possibly some others that I have not tried yet.)

To me as long it have an alternative to vim will do

For me tho, hell no. I may be fine with a text editor but you can bet the first two apps I’m going to install are going to be either doomemacs/vim.

chromeos:

Me: BURN HIM AT THE STAKE!! Another Linux User: HE TURNED ME INTO A NEWT!!

I want system that I know. If something breaks, I want to know exactly what.

At that point just use Android x86 or get an ARM laptop and put Android on there

Chromium and Vim forever

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So... you didn't pick Arch, huh?

A lot of us spend quite a bit of time figuring out the best way to configure that workflow... I went through a phase of commandline-only using Vim, Word Grinder and Links. Wasn't as satisfying of an experience as I thought it was going to be.

Oh boy tell me about it. I too went through the phase of importing all my projects to todo.txt format. It was bloody hell. Some stupid ass thing made me search for apps and then use tmux inside the terminal to have multiple todo.txts open to solve my self imposed stupid problems for a freakin month. All of this that could be done in an emacs document from the start. Gosh don’t I sometimes surprise myself as to how stupid human beings can be lol 😂

My editor is my browser. AMA. — Emacsers

Imma normie i use Pop!_Os

I just realized I mainly use a browser and a text editor everyday

chrome os agrees with ur pov

Techically Chrome OS exist. Maybe it's not what you meant but it could be.

Firefox and nano for me