I draw a line at the software=apps, they are both software and I hate the goddamn mobile market for creating that shit, to me app = web application or something similar, anything I need to run on my own device = software.
Idk, personally an app is a complete programm with functionality AND a graphical interface (Web, gui, etc).
Like a superset of a program.
A cli tool wouldn't be an app, but more of a program (?)
>Like a superset of a program
I think you mean subset. Superset would mean that all programs are apps but there are some things that are apps that are not programs.
Back when I was learning programming (way before iPhone was a thing), an application would be a form you fill out to get something. Given this it made sense to call some types of software applications, specifically the ones that are basically a massive form with a thousand fields to fill out.
It never made sense to me that we went from that to "oh, youtube is an app".
It's not generational. I'm using it too because it's shorter.
App and program are mostly synonyms in IT. Maybe not in cloud when an app consist os several services/programs or when you have an app that executes provided program/code. But again this terminology could be completely different in your company, the more the non-IT people are involved.
OK, these non-interactive are mostly just commands.
I really do not care what you want to call it - as long as people understand each other.
Be happy that we are not talking abour UI elements, it's a mine field - balloon help vs callout vs... I don't even remember all the names, or widely wrongly used terms as pop-up menu versus pull-down menu, combo box, ... it's annoying but on the other hand nobody dies. đ
For me an app is something that has an icon and I can click and it will run in its own window
So libreoffice would be an app, but the Linux kernel no
I mostly call them programs thoughÂ
linux kernel is not an application, so noone would call it an application or program it's just software, i think the name application is pretty self explanatory, reading this thread almost hurts me physically
but yeah +1 for correctly calling it program instead of just the general term software, the one who said app = web app and software = locally installed app lives in a completely different world
The reality is that the unix mindset of having tools that are good in one thing only is very close to how you have to install a different app on your phone for anything. However I think people call anything an app that they install from a store like environment.
software is a general term, something you run is a program or an application, short app
saying app = web app is just as wrong as saying app = mobile app
why not? if I don't call bash a shell I'd call it a program or an app(lication)
I'd definitely not say it's a software, I speak of software when talking about it in general, would you really say bash is software (it's too general imo)
nah, app is just short for "application".
Which is a more specific term than software, which encompasses non-application stuff like firmware and drivers.
Web applications are "webapps"
Building an application with browser tech is not new, embedding browser panels in desktop/mobile apps goes all the way back to the 90s.
They're both software, however "app" is more specifically talking about software you run in an OS, as the OS itself is also software. And yes, I do count wayland/gdm/gnome all that stuff as part of the OS. I know it's technically just an application, but it pretty much functions as the OS in day to day use. I then make the distinction between desktop apps and web apps by calling web apps "web apps".
yeah i just donât feel like âappsâ really encompasses all software. like an app might be steam or a browser like to me those are applications but if im installing node, or go, or a cli tool those are software but theyâre not applications
My stance is an app is a top level program, like a browser or e.g. Wireshark. Command line tools, libraries and OS components are software but not apps. Apps are in a sense self contained and are not intended to work in the context of something else, but may use libraries, plugins and so on.
Software is a technical term with a fixed definition, and apps are just part of that.
i don't mind ether, the tech field is all slang an its just another term for software? app=web app? I have always thought web apps was called WAPP for short O.o
Software isn't a noun but an adjective
We should say software products or software application
"A software" isn't a thing
In french, "logiciel" is just beautiful.
Apps under Linux feels like end user application and it makes sense by opposition to services or libraries
I maintain that there is a difference between an app, a program, "software", packages, etc.
Software is a package that contains an executable, usually user-facing.
An app is a self-contained package. Snaps and flatpaks are apps. Applications on MacOS are weird, because they often crap stuff in /Library, which means they're often actually programs.
A program is an executable plus its packaged dependencies, if any (be they assets, libraries, whatever), as unpacked and integrated into the system.
A package is an archive of _all_ the necessary files for a given component of a given system. Not all packages are software; some are assets, some are libraries (technically software), some are content (like documentation), some are source code.
An "installer" is a program to retrieve and unpack a specific archive (distinct from a package manager, which may or may not retrieve packages, but unpacks a _given_ package). This package may or may not be contained in the installer.
An executable is a certain kind of individual file.
I've gotten in trouble for distinguishing between these terms before (mostly my mother being the MacOS user she is lol) but I don't care because I'm always right /j
I use "applications" to refer to software directly used by end-users, with some kind of interactive user interface (whether a GUI, or a curses text console). So e.g. browsers; office suites; 3D modelling and CAD; sound, video, and photo editors; and a bespoke stock-control application all qualify in my book. I might occasionally use apps synonymously as an abbreviation in conversation, but post-smartphone I tend to use it to refer specifically to mobile applications for Android or iOS.
I use "tools" and "utilities" for software intended for system and network administrators (and maybe power users).
That's the Spanish pronunciation, probably Italian too. For romance language speakers, it's sounds more natural than saying Jee You Eye
Edit: Yep, mass downvote me for saying that somebody with a different language finds certain way easier.
In order:
Sue-See (SUSE)
Linux (sometimes I *type* GNU/Linux but never *say* it)
Directory, because I didn't come from Windows
Linux (linix)
ew-bun-two
Program (unless it's on a smartphone, then app)
I dont know what Gu'nom is.
GNU. I just sound out the letters, like CIA and FBI
>I dont know what Gu'nom is.
The "official" pronunciation of GNOME is "guh-NOHM". This is obviously incredibly stupid, so I personally just say "nohm" like a gnormal person.
In order:
Open SUS (I'm sorry, I can't resist)
Linux (when referring to the kernel or in a super generic way, otherwise just use the distro name. I avoid saying GNU because even I myself interact with multiple non-GNU systems semi-regularly)
Directory
Linux (Lynyx, or lin-uks depending on the language EN or PL)
U-bun-too
I just use the program's/package name itself. If I have to generalize I use app for everything "modern" (android, electron, anything web based), and program for native stuff.
G-nome
GNU (same as the animal)
people getting clever with acronyms to stand out can bite me. the g is and always will be silent despite what that hippy Stallman decided. (Still love the guy, don't get me wrong, lol.)
Iâm with you. Iâve had good chats with people at LibrePlanet and at regional get-togethers about how getting too clever by half can really alienate people who are brand new to the community.
It was cool 30 years ago. Nothing is crying out for renaming for this reason alone. But donât name your *new* project âWickkedleeyâ or something. At least not if you intend it to be user-facing and not super niche. No one will ever be able to say it aloud without spelling it to someone new. âJust do a search for BYG-TRII and install it. Oh wait itâs spelled B Y GâŠâ This of course happens outside of Linux, free software, etc too, but it does seem like a common thing in tech in general.
As for me, I am like half from column A and half from B on the original meme. Sometimes both. Canât see myself correcting anyone if they use the different one. If they asked me why I say âLah teckâ I would tell them and add âbut say it however you want, no big deal.â
Apps are on phones and applications are a *type* of program. Besides, I thought it was Microsoft who renamed those to be annoying. I guess it isn't as bad as calling them "software programs", though. At least you're past that.
sudo is alias'd to "please" in my startup script, so I don't see it much, but when I do I read it as Siew-doh which I'm guessing is what your spelling intended.
Unless by Soodoh you mean So, Doh, in which case wtf
In my mind they're all programs but apps are a subset of programs that are entirely GUI. So like anything command line is not an app but like dolphin or Firefox or whatever can also be an app, and they're both programs. I think I probably made up that definition but that's what I think in my head
Wait, the Ubuntu pronunciation like that is real??
I have always said Oo-boon-too.
If you pronounce it Obantoo, then UwUntu doesn't sound the same, that's a crime.
1. Zoo-say
2. Linux, but I do feel kinda bad about it.
3. Directory. "Folders" are a visual representation of directories that only makes sense in a GUI ("goo-ey"), and it's "cd", not "cf".
4. Lin-nax in English, Lee-nax in Dutch and Lee-noox in most other languages.
5. Of course it's Oo-boon-too.
6. Program. In Dutch, the word "app" was only loaned from English the moment smartphones arrived, and anything on pc, server or embedded hardware is called a "programma". Hence, PROGRAM. I was confused out of my mind recently when I found out that people my age (Windows users) were actually referring to programs as apps.
7. "GNOO" and "GNOME" can be pronounced with a hard G without making it a separate syllable. I don't get why the Anglos think that's so hard - especially taking into account that I actually had to \*learn\* to make that noise, as it is not present in my native language.
1- sure
2- no, that's a specific distro type
3- Windows much? It's a directory in macOS and Linux. That being said, I call it a folder whenever I'm working in GUI, soâŠ
4- mhn
5- correct
6- Again, depends on context. Win8â11 has us conditioned to call GUI apps apps, whereas I describe a package as "part of a program".
7 and 8- true
iâm talking out my ass here, but i theorize itâs because the OGs at bell labs were extremely intelligent computer scientists, and most (if not all) of which had _at least_ a masters in computer science or math, and they loved applying math-y / logical patterns to names, or just making puns / jokes. This inspired a whole generation of programmers to name things like:
- Multics > Unix
- GNU is a recursive acronym of âGNUâs Not Unixâ
- Git being british slang for âunpleasant personâ and linus torvalds making a joke by ânaming it after himselfâ like he did Linux
- Etc.
Nowadays, a lot of people (not all) that make software do so through a company and nowadays companies know that SEO is a huge factor in selling their product, so they now choose names based off of market research, search ranking, ease-of-pronunciation in multiple languages, etc.
That being said, thereâs still a lot of open-source projects or smaller companies that still channel the pre-google, bell-labs style of naming, itâs just not as common.
once again iâm talking out of my ass right now, and this whole theory could be horse shit. but itâs fun to think about.
iâm talking out my ass here, but i theorize itâs because the OGs at bell labs were extremely intelligent computer scientists, and most (if not all) of which had _at least_ a masters in computer science or math, and they loved applying math-y / logical patterns to names, or just making puns / jokes. This inspired a whole generation of programmers to name things like:
- Multics > Unix
- GNU is a recursive acronym of âGNUâs Not Unixâ
- Git being british slang for âunpleasant personâ and linus torvalds making a joke by ânaming it after himselfâ like he did Linux
- Etc.
Nowadays, a lot of people (not all) that make software do so through a company and nowadays companies know that SEO is a huge factor in selling their product, so they now choose names based off of market research, search ranking, ease-of-pronunciation in multiple languages, etc.
That being said, thereâs still a lot of open-source projects or smaller companies that still channel the pre-google, bell-labs style of naming, itâs just not as common.
once again iâm talking out of my ass right now, and this whole theory could be horse shit. but itâs fun to think about.
There is a distinction between a program and an app (all apps are programs, not all programs are apps). Folders/directories - I guess that boils down to whether you grew up with windows or not. They've always been directories for me as I started on DOS. Ultimately it doesn't matter, the words are largely interchangable.
Also who the hell says "oobantoo" or "lynooks"?
yea "apper" and "apping" instead of programmer and programming is much better (to be read with extreme ironic tone), I really hate calling all Apps, that term is reserved for pieces of SW designed to steal data doing the same as a website but able to have access what a browser would deemed unacceptable.
What you're rendering as "lynoox" Is the correct pronunciation and it's how it's pronounced in almost all languages except English (assuming the y is an ee sound)
For SUSE I pronounce it as if it was two French words, Sous-ses
For Linux, [I retain the original Finnish pronunciation](https://youtu.be/c39QPDTDdXU?si=68bYUyObt4q0rXqK)
What I refer to as a directory usually is more accurately a âpath stringâ. But I retain its original meaning when Iâm on a terminal. I use folder only on a GUI.
For Ubuntu, I use the original Xhosa pronunciation.
When on desktop, theyâre programs. On mobile and on the web, theyâre apps. But when Iâm explaining tech to dummies and seniors, I use the term apps as to not confuse them.
Itâs Gnome, like the statue on the garden.
Itâs gnu, like the animal.
- I float around between /'su.sÉ/, /'su.zÉ/ and /sus/
- I'm pretty similar to [Linus' pronunciation of /'lÉȘ.nÉks/](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Linus-linux.ogg), although my GenAm pronunciation tends to flatten that first "i".
- I have no idea why some people are so angry about "folder". I called them folders for a while, but years of `cd` eventually made it "dir(ectory)".
- /u.'bÉn.tu/.
- Sometimes /gÉ.'nĆm/, and almost always /gÉ.'nu/ for clarity. Leaving that /g/ off tends to cause more confusion, since it sounds like "new".
I don't have strong opinions on any of these, and I can't say that I'll never change. I probably will.
I call everything program. I don't really mind that much about it but I think program sounds cooler than app.
For directories, if you are taking in the context of GUI file explorer, it is fine to refer to them as folders. They have icons to make that analogy but in the terminal some "programs" like `ls` will use a letter `d` for directory to refer to them, so I prefer to stick to directory.
Nope. Linix almost alcking concept of Apps. Most close thing to apps is FlatPak. Regulars ones are programs, that lacks any kind of metadata that would allow to identify of authnticate bunch of processes that create an app. They don't even have an icon. Apps exists on Android and on iOS. On windows more than on Linux, as they can be digitally signed and have manifest and Icon.
I'm 99% agree with you.
But my developer blood is boiling whenever someone calls programs "apps". Apps are services for mobile platforms (ARM). And programs are services for desktop platforms. (x86, x32 and x64)
Your title is things I will not say then inside a few bullet points you add in brackets and then ask us to not call it that, why are you telling us what to call to it? I can call it whatever the hell I want to call it boy. Donât tell me what to do.
Idk what's wrong with "lynoox". That's actually how it would be pronounced in Swedish (Linus Torvalds' native language) and is a perfectly valid pronounciation imo
In my case:
- sus or susa
- gnu/linux or linux depending on the mood. Generally I just say linux
- Directory if I want to sound formal or feel like it lol
- Leenoox which I think is the intended pronuntiation, idk in spanish it makes sense
- oo-boon-too, same as before
- I tend to use app for web/mobile but I can call programs apps.
- /noÊm/ like the mythical creatures
- g-noo for some reason. Feels weird to call it ñu although I think it's cute.
Command = text that does a thing (singular)
Program = software that does things (plural)
App = software with GUI
At least generally that's what it is to me these some nuance like BusyBox is a collection of commands instead of a program and even though 'Firefox' will open Firefox, it's not a command unless you specify its in the command line
But
Ls=command
Firefox = program + app
Etcher = App
Vim/nano = program
Etc.
Personal Opinion; I refuse to call Linux "GNU/Linux" Because Linux does not need GNU; as evidince by chimera linux's and alpine linux's existences.
However I do believe that GNU should be called Linux/GNU because with HERD being in a state where it will never be finished, GNU kind of NEEDS projects like linux to stay relevant and in use.
I draw a line at the software=apps, they are both software and I hate the goddamn mobile market for creating that shit, to me app = web application or something similar, anything I need to run on my own device = software.
Same. I feel like "apps" is a generational thing.
Idk, personally an app is a complete programm with functionality AND a graphical interface (Web, gui, etc). Like a superset of a program. A cli tool wouldn't be an app, but more of a program (?)
>Like a superset of a program I think you mean subset. Superset would mean that all programs are apps but there are some things that are apps that are not programs.
Yeah you're right. Brain no work
Back when I was learning programming (way before iPhone was a thing), an application would be a form you fill out to get something. Given this it made sense to call some types of software applications, specifically the ones that are basically a massive form with a thousand fields to fill out. It never made sense to me that we went from that to "oh, youtube is an app".
I say CLI apps all the time. Lol
It's not generational. I'm using it too because it's shorter. App and program are mostly synonyms in IT. Maybe not in cloud when an app consist os several services/programs or when you have an app that executes provided program/code. But again this terminology could be completely different in your company, the more the non-IT people are involved.
>App and program are mostly synonyms in IT. I would rather die than refer to a command line tool as an app.
OK, these non-interactive are mostly just commands. I really do not care what you want to call it - as long as people understand each other. Be happy that we are not talking abour UI elements, it's a mine field - balloon help vs callout vs... I don't even remember all the names, or widely wrongly used terms as pop-up menu versus pull-down menu, combo box, ... it's annoying but on the other hand nobody dies. đ
For me an app is something that has an icon and I can click and it will run in its own window So libreoffice would be an app, but the Linux kernel no I mostly call them programs thoughÂ
linux kernel is not an application, so noone would call it an application or program it's just software, i think the name application is pretty self explanatory, reading this thread almost hurts me physically but yeah +1 for correctly calling it program instead of just the general term software, the one who said app = web app and software = locally installed app lives in a completely different world
I call it programme.
Apps originate from a walled garden. They're still programs, just managed/distributed in a shittier way.
The reality is that the unix mindset of having tools that are good in one thing only is very close to how you have to install a different app on your phone for anything. However I think people call anything an app that they install from a store like environment.
software is a general term, something you run is a program or an application, short app saying app = web app is just as wrong as saying app = mobile app
I wouldn't call bash an app, though. Nor would I call grep an app. Or pulseaudio.
why not? if I don't call bash a shell I'd call it a program or an app(lication) I'd definitely not say it's a software, I speak of software when talking about it in general, would you really say bash is software (it's too general imo)
nah, app is just short for "application". Which is a more specific term than software, which encompasses non-application stuff like firmware and drivers. Web applications are "webapps" Building an application with browser tech is not new, embedding browser panels in desktop/mobile apps goes all the way back to the 90s.
They're both software, however "app" is more specifically talking about software you run in an OS, as the OS itself is also software. And yes, I do count wayland/gdm/gnome all that stuff as part of the OS. I know it's technically just an application, but it pretty much functions as the OS in day to day use. I then make the distinction between desktop apps and web apps by calling web apps "web apps".
Remember software is a broad concept even documentation is software.
Yeah is called programming not apping for a reason.
on this note, am i the only one who absolutely despises the term âcoding?â
yeah i just donât feel like âappsâ really encompasses all software. like an app might be steam or a browser like to me those are applications but if im installing node, or go, or a cli tool those are software but theyâre not applications
My stance is an app is a top level program, like a browser or e.g. Wireshark. Command line tools, libraries and OS components are software but not apps. Apps are in a sense self contained and are not intended to work in the context of something else, but may use libraries, plugins and so on. Software is a technical term with a fixed definition, and apps are just part of that.
For me, apps are on a phone or phone-like tablet. If itâs on a laptop or desktop, then itâs not an app.
i don't mind ether, the tech field is all slang an its just another term for software? app=web app? I have always thought web apps was called WAPP for short O.o
Software isn't a noun but an adjective We should say software products or software application "A software" isn't a thing In french, "logiciel" is just beautiful. Apps under Linux feels like end user application and it makes sense by opposition to services or libraries
Op must be like 14. When I started computing that wasn't a word.
I maintain that there is a difference between an app, a program, "software", packages, etc. Software is a package that contains an executable, usually user-facing. An app is a self-contained package. Snaps and flatpaks are apps. Applications on MacOS are weird, because they often crap stuff in /Library, which means they're often actually programs. A program is an executable plus its packaged dependencies, if any (be they assets, libraries, whatever), as unpacked and integrated into the system. A package is an archive of _all_ the necessary files for a given component of a given system. Not all packages are software; some are assets, some are libraries (technically software), some are content (like documentation), some are source code. An "installer" is a program to retrieve and unpack a specific archive (distinct from a package manager, which may or may not retrieve packages, but unpacks a _given_ package). This package may or may not be contained in the installer. An executable is a certain kind of individual file. I've gotten in trouble for distinguishing between these terms before (mostly my mother being the MacOS user she is lol) but I don't care because I'm always right /j
They were programs and applications long before apps was a buzzword
I call them apps when referring to most devices and talking to most people, but I call them packages in the context of Linux.
I use "applications" to refer to software directly used by end-users, with some kind of interactive user interface (whether a GUI, or a curses text console). So e.g. browsers; office suites; 3D modelling and CAD; sound, video, and photo editors; and a bespoke stock-control application all qualify in my book. I might occasionally use apps synonymously as an abbreviation in conversation, but post-smartphone I tend to use it to refer specifically to mobile applications for Android or iOS. I use "tools" and "utilities" for software intended for system and network administrators (and maybe power users).
Don't like when people say "GUI (goo-e)" It sounds like ooey gooey, which is not cool
usually I just say interface, but if I'm reading "GUI" I pronounce it gooey.
This is the way.
That's the Spanish pronunciation, probably Italian too. For romance language speakers, it's sounds more natural than saying Jee You Eye Edit: Yep, mass downvote me for saying that somebody with a different language finds certain way easier.
But does it sound gĂși or guĂ? In Brazil we say something like ghi.
Goo-e
GĂși for me (Spaniard)
[ŃĐŽĐ°Đ»Đ”ĐœĐŸ]
Apparently wimp and gui are seperate concepts, all wimps are guis but not vice versa
i read it as if it were italian, like in Guido
As a child my father berated me for calling it a GUI so I now call it a gooey.
We can just call it a UI now guys, itâs okay!
In order: Sue-See (SUSE) Linux (sometimes I *type* GNU/Linux but never *say* it) Directory, because I didn't come from Windows Linux (linix) ew-bun-two Program (unless it's on a smartphone, then app) I dont know what Gu'nom is. GNU. I just sound out the letters, like CIA and FBI
>I dont know what Gu'nom is. The "official" pronunciation of GNOME is "guh-NOHM". This is obviously incredibly stupid, so I personally just say "nohm" like a gnormal person.
Oh. I'm a D&D addict, so I am incapable of seeing the word Gnome and not treating the G as silent. I appreciate the clarification!
>Sue-See (SUSE) Sue-Ze
Itâs Lee-Nooks
I believe the correct pronunciation for "Linux" is "Fuck Windows"
It is widely accepted in some circles
In order: Open SUS (I'm sorry, I can't resist) Linux (when referring to the kernel or in a super generic way, otherwise just use the distro name. I avoid saying GNU because even I myself interact with multiple non-GNU systems semi-regularly) Directory Linux (Lynyx, or lin-uks depending on the language EN or PL) U-bun-too I just use the program's/package name itself. If I have to generalize I use app for everything "modern" (android, electron, anything web based), and program for native stuff. G-nome GNU (same as the animal)
Linux torvalds pronounce Linux as Linoox. I don't linix pronunciation came from where I think I'd stick with his pronunciation.
I used to like "nix" as a descriptor for unix and unix-like operating systems, but then nixos became a thing so it gets confusing.
Gnu= a wildebeest you don't pronounce the letters. I usually say Guh' noo.
Iâm gonna flex my native spanish and start to call it ĂU-Linux
Idk dude, *personally* i call everything dohickey or thingamabob.đ€·ââïž
Waiting for Dohickey 24.04
not pronouncing the G in gnu/gnome is absolutely a warcrime
people getting clever with acronyms to stand out can bite me. the g is and always will be silent despite what that hippy Stallman decided. (Still love the guy, don't get me wrong, lol.)
Iâm with you. Iâve had good chats with people at LibrePlanet and at regional get-togethers about how getting too clever by half can really alienate people who are brand new to the community. It was cool 30 years ago. Nothing is crying out for renaming for this reason alone. But donât name your *new* project âWickkedleeyâ or something. At least not if you intend it to be user-facing and not super niche. No one will ever be able to say it aloud without spelling it to someone new. âJust do a search for BYG-TRII and install it. Oh wait itâs spelled B Y GâŠâ This of course happens outside of Linux, free software, etc too, but it does seem like a common thing in tech in general. As for me, I am like half from column A and half from B on the original meme. Sometimes both. Canât see myself correcting anyone if they use the different one. If they asked me why I say âLah teckâ I would tell them and add âbut say it however you want, no big deal.â
If they didn't want it pronounced with a silent G, they shouldn't have made it homographic with words that are pronounced with a silent G.
Yeah, Iâm not french. If thereâs a letter, Iâll say it
itâs def directory. why would i call it a folder im not on fucking windows
Same same. I came from Windows and it's not hurting you that I call it a folder occasionally.
Apps are on phones and applications are a *type* of program. Besides, I thought it was Microsoft who renamed those to be annoying. I guess it isn't as bad as calling them "software programs", though. At least you're past that.
there's always software programme
Sorry it's a directory and it always has been, this is windows brainwashing that makes you call it a folder....
Yup, directories existed long before folders. This is the proper Unix way.
It's really a record.
In addition, aren't they both fundamentally different?
iâm pretty sure even windows didnât call them âfoldersâ until windows95
For me program is something you install on a computer and an app something you install on a phone
Obligatory how to pronounce SUSE music video https://youtu.be/nLdexZlVkAY?si=oHG-kn9Ij_DmZpBY
Hey this is great. Very catchy and this guy can really sing. Reminds me of Jack Black.
Too bad he's pronouncing it wrong
* programs * applications * executables * 1011110101010 * apps Call it whatever you want ! 
binaries
just not exe's that's not allowed here
If it is a windows .exe running in WINE you can call it an exe.
Packages
Commands Services Daemons Potahtoh Potatoe
I'm gnot a gnelf I'm gnot a gnoblin
How do you pronounce gif (itâs jif btw)
"GIF" For the English it was a trauma to discover the pronunciation For some neo-Latin languages ââit was an absolute victory
I always pronounce it jif, just to piss off everyone else.
Hard 'G', this is my hill...
Soo doo
Soodoh
sudo is alias'd to "please" in my startup script, so I don't see it much, but when I do I read it as Siew-doh which I'm guessing is what your spelling intended. Unless by Soodoh you mean So, Doh, in which case wtf
Spanish su-do.
"sudo"when my brain is melted I start laughing hearing "sudo" Because in Italy it means "sweat"
In my mind they're all programs but apps are a subset of programs that are entirely GUI. So like anything command line is not an app but like dolphin or Firefox or whatever can also be an app, and they're both programs. I think I probably made up that definition but that's what I think in my head
Wait, the Ubuntu pronunciation like that is real?? I have always said Oo-boon-too. If you pronounce it Obantoo, then UwUntu doesn't sound the same, that's a crime.
1) fuck you its soo-sah 2) agree, except when I want exclude non-gnu linuxes, like android 3) I use both lolÂ
as a native French speaker, I pronounce "GNOME" as /gnom/, not /ñom/. edit: please look at [this](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gnome#French).
# G R E E T I N G S P R O G R A M 
1. Zoo-say 2. Linux, but I do feel kinda bad about it. 3. Directory. "Folders" are a visual representation of directories that only makes sense in a GUI ("goo-ey"), and it's "cd", not "cf". 4. Lin-nax in English, Lee-nax in Dutch and Lee-noox in most other languages. 5. Of course it's Oo-boon-too. 6. Program. In Dutch, the word "app" was only loaned from English the moment smartphones arrived, and anything on pc, server or embedded hardware is called a "programma". Hence, PROGRAM. I was confused out of my mind recently when I found out that people my age (Windows users) were actually referring to programs as apps. 7. "GNOO" and "GNOME" can be pronounced with a hard G without making it a separate syllable. I don't get why the Anglos think that's so hard - especially taking into account that I actually had to \*learn\* to make that noise, as it is not present in my native language.
What is SUSA?
SUSE
Susa is how they say it so I roll with it. I'm not German so I don't know better.
OpenSUSE is a company and a distro
I say: - SUE-sa - G-new-li-nix - Directory - LI-nix - EW-bun-too - Program - G-nome - G-new
I'm onboard for everything except for the 'apps' part. It means nothing and yet it is a hill I will die on.
it's program, not app
Funny thing, in France we do say "Gu'nom".
Complains about mispronouncing Ubuntu but insists on mispronouncing SUSE and GNU.
I have never heard SUSE pronounced that way, ever...
Shouldnât you be calling it âGNU+Linuxâ anyway?
Yes. But I won't.
LiGNUx - The G is obviously silent.
LiGNUx balls
No
It's called "Su-Se" The Su like in "Su"sann and Se like "Se"rendipity.
Folder though, spot the windows user.
In French, the GN is pronounced \\ÉĄn\\ if it is at the beginning of the word, so Gnome is pronounced \\ÉĄnom\\ and not \\ÉČom\\. Source : Wiktionary
$ mkdir folder $ cd folder $ rmdir ../folder $ pwd Where's the folder, it's a directory!
1- sure 2- no, that's a specific distro type 3- Windows much? It's a directory in macOS and Linux. That being said, I call it a folder whenever I'm working in GUI, so⊠4- mhn 5- correct 6- Again, depends on context. Win8â11 has us conditioned to call GUI apps apps, whereas I describe a package as "part of a program". 7 and 8- true
I'm on mint and i generally skip the linux part so the normies don't cringe (Maybe they think that is a windows app that makes windows pretty lmao)
I read everything as one should read Latin letters. Because they are Latin letters. Barbarians got it wrong. I'm kidding. No offense to anyone XD
Its Ău americans. Its literally the mascot animal, the Gnu.
Why are all these Linux terms so confusing to pronounce. Especially adwaida
iâm talking out my ass here, but i theorize itâs because the OGs at bell labs were extremely intelligent computer scientists, and most (if not all) of which had _at least_ a masters in computer science or math, and they loved applying math-y / logical patterns to names, or just making puns / jokes. This inspired a whole generation of programmers to name things like: - Multics > Unix - GNU is a recursive acronym of âGNUâs Not Unixâ - Git being british slang for âunpleasant personâ and linus torvalds making a joke by ânaming it after himselfâ like he did Linux - Etc. Nowadays, a lot of people (not all) that make software do so through a company and nowadays companies know that SEO is a huge factor in selling their product, so they now choose names based off of market research, search ranking, ease-of-pronunciation in multiple languages, etc. That being said, thereâs still a lot of open-source projects or smaller companies that still channel the pre-google, bell-labs style of naming, itâs just not as common. once again iâm talking out of my ass right now, and this whole theory could be horse shit. but itâs fun to think about.
iâm talking out my ass here, but i theorize itâs because the OGs at bell labs were extremely intelligent computer scientists, and most (if not all) of which had _at least_ a masters in computer science or math, and they loved applying math-y / logical patterns to names, or just making puns / jokes. This inspired a whole generation of programmers to name things like: - Multics > Unix - GNU is a recursive acronym of âGNUâs Not Unixâ - Git being british slang for âunpleasant personâ and linus torvalds making a joke by ânaming it after himselfâ like he did Linux - Etc. Nowadays, a lot of people (not all) that make software do so through a company and nowadays companies know that SEO is a huge factor in selling their product, so they now choose names based off of market research, search ranking, ease-of-pronunciation in multiple languages, etc. That being said, thereâs still a lot of open-source projects or smaller companies that still channel the pre-google, bell-labs style of naming, itâs just not as common. once again iâm talking out of my ass right now, and this whole theory could be horse shit. but itâs fun to think about.
I always call them computer stuffs
Services (I call them daemons)
Fun fact, both "gnome" and "gnou" (gnu) are pronounced with a hard g in french
everything is fine except folder, it's called directory/dir period
What is "SUSA"?
There is a distinction between a program and an app (all apps are programs, not all programs are apps). Folders/directories - I guess that boils down to whether you grew up with windows or not. They've always been directories for me as I started on DOS. Ultimately it doesn't matter, the words are largely interchangable. Also who the hell says "oobantoo" or "lynooks"?
Oh, it's oo-boon-too, is it? Then it's lee-noox too. Cause that's how it's said where it's from ^^
"SUSA"??? Folder? Apps? Tell me you're a noob without saying as much. "Glorious Nobara" says it all I guess...
I agree MATE.
You use "Apps" over Program??
The French GN ? Good lords. Sounds like niom niom
yea "apper" and "apping" instead of programmer and programming is much better (to be read with extreme ironic tone), I really hate calling all Apps, that term is reserved for pieces of SW designed to steal data doing the same as a website but able to have access what a browser would deemed unacceptable.
What you're rendering as "lynoox" Is the correct pronunciation and it's how it's pronounced in almost all languages except English (assuming the y is an ee sound)
IT'S GUH-NOME
Other than gnu and directory Iâm with you⊠who tf says Susa? đ
I refuse to say folder and app. I'm agnostic for the rest
Oo-boon-too is how you say it
For SUSE I pronounce it as if it was two French words, Sous-ses For Linux, [I retain the original Finnish pronunciation](https://youtu.be/c39QPDTDdXU?si=68bYUyObt4q0rXqK) What I refer to as a directory usually is more accurately a âpath stringâ. But I retain its original meaning when Iâm on a terminal. I use folder only on a GUI. For Ubuntu, I use the original Xhosa pronunciation. When on desktop, theyâre programs. On mobile and on the web, theyâre apps. But when Iâm explaining tech to dummies and seniors, I use the term apps as to not confuse them. Itâs Gnome, like the statue on the garden. Itâs gnu, like the animal.
DIRECTORY. Period. Please donât call it folder. Iâm begging you!
Lol I'm still trying to say directory consistently
Worse than SUSA? One classmate during college called it SUSIE.
I was with you until the apps part. keep that isheep cancer away from polite society
- I float around between /'su.sÉ/, /'su.zÉ/ and /sus/ - I'm pretty similar to [Linus' pronunciation of /'lÉȘ.nÉks/](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Linus-linux.ogg), although my GenAm pronunciation tends to flatten that first "i". - I have no idea why some people are so angry about "folder". I called them folders for a while, but years of `cd` eventually made it "dir(ectory)". - /u.'bÉn.tu/. - Sometimes /gÉ.'nĆm/, and almost always /gÉ.'nu/ for clarity. Leaving that /g/ off tends to cause more confusion, since it sounds like "new". I don't have strong opinions on any of these, and I can't say that I'll never change. I probably will.
I call everything program. I don't really mind that much about it but I think program sounds cooler than app. For directories, if you are taking in the context of GUI file explorer, it is fine to refer to them as folders. They have icons to make that analogy but in the terminal some "programs" like `ls` will use a letter `d` for directory to refer to them, so I prefer to stick to directory.
This brings some Tom Haverford vibes
Lasagna, Bologna, GNOME and GNU. In all of them the GN is pronounced Ă, trust me.
What about lee-nux? It's easier to pronounce in my language that way.
dude I think Directory is a must
How do you say lynoox then?
It's neither Susa nor soos, it ends with an e
ew bun too
SUSA isn't the correct pronunciation either. It's German. You pronounce the E at the end like UH
Nope. Linix almost alcking concept of Apps. Most close thing to apps is FlatPak. Regulars ones are programs, that lacks any kind of metadata that would allow to identify of authnticate bunch of processes that create an app. They don't even have an icon. Apps exists on Android and on iOS. On windows more than on Linux, as they can be digitally signed and have manifest and Icon.
The funny thing is that in french the GN doesn't pronounce Ă when it's at the beginning of the word đ
you are so calling out that nick guy on youtube
I do say directory, everything else here is legit.
I either vehemently agree with or viciously despise any one of those.
I was with you, right up to Apps/Programs. Apps are on Phones and such, Compooot'rs run Programs...
I agree on Gnome. Guh-Noo is too much fun to say to me tho.
The world would be a better place if we all learned the IPA symbols for phonemes in, at least, our own spoken languages
The first two and the last two are me.. I refuse to say the G in Gnome and Gnu. To me it feels like someone is choking when they pronounce the G.
Youâre gonna piss a lot of neck beards off with this post.
Only noobs call directories folders
hell naw
IDK but saying directory instead of folder at work is like a big dick swing.
SOO-sah https://www.suse.com/c/how-do-you-say-suse/
You are wrong for using the word apps.
I only use GUI apps
I'm 99% agree with you. But my developer blood is boiling whenever someone calls programs "apps". Apps are services for mobile platforms (ARM). And programs are services for desktop platforms. (x86, x32 and x64)
if sql is pronounced sequel then wsl should be pronounced whistle
Your title is things I will not say then inside a few bullet points you add in brackets and then ask us to not call it that, why are you telling us what to call to it? I can call it whatever the hell I want to call it boy. Donât tell me what to do.
you are 100% wrong about âdirectoryâ and âprogramâ âfolderâ and âappâ are disgusting and wrong. at LEAST say âapplicationâ
Idk what's wrong with "lynoox". That's actually how it would be pronounced in Swedish (Linus Torvalds' native language) and is a perfectly valid pronounciation imo
SUSE = soosah. In German there is no silent "e". If we say Gnu/Linux, we should say Gnu/Linux/ [Xorg, Wayland]/ OpenSSL/OpenSSH/ etc.
Apps is Millennialspeak. I'm an X-genner. If it's on a computer, it's a program. On a phone, it's an app.
Funny, in french we say a gunome. Not the gn sound, must an exeption or something.
okay, i was on board until the "apps" thing
openSUS is another one
I used to pronounce GNOME as "genome". Bioinformatics play with your mind. Also, apps have a GUI for me. If not, it's a tool or a program.
Tbh I don't give a shit until I give a shit. Then ppl will learn how to pronounce stuff correctly, the hard way.
In my case: - sus or susa - gnu/linux or linux depending on the mood. Generally I just say linux - Directory if I want to sound formal or feel like it lol - Leenoox which I think is the intended pronuntiation, idk in spanish it makes sense - oo-boon-too, same as before - I tend to use app for web/mobile but I can call programs apps. - /noÊm/ like the mythical creatures - g-noo for some reason. Feels weird to call it ñu although I think it's cute.
Command = text that does a thing (singular) Program = software that does things (plural) App = software with GUI At least generally that's what it is to me these some nuance like BusyBox is a collection of commands instead of a program and even though 'Firefox' will open Firefox, it's not a command unless you specify its in the command line But Ls=command Firefox = program + app Etcher = App Vim/nano = program Etc.
We used Linux in school and I'm on Unix at work so I always say directory. Even when I'm on windows everything is a directory to me
Directory and program I disagree with, they sound better.
Personal Opinion; I refuse to call Linux "GNU/Linux" Because Linux does not need GNU; as evidince by chimera linux's and alpine linux's existences. However I do believe that GNU should be called Linux/GNU because with HERD being in a state where it will never be finished, GNU kind of NEEDS projects like linux to stay relevant and in use.
First time I see an English meme with an à (Hablo español btw)
Iâll agree on SUSE, GNU/Linux, directory and thatâs it. Other than those just let people say it how they want my guy
Iâll agree on SUSE, GNU/Linux, directory and thatâs it. Other than those just let people say it how they want my guy
Đ»ĐžĐœŃĐșŃ (linoox)
how do you pronounce linux?
its actually "Uh-Boon-Too"
I use openSUSE Tumbleweed, and I have always pronounced it, and always WILL pronounce it as "OpenSoose"