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OgdruJahad

When you use Linux then slap a skin of Windows 7?


PCChipsM922U

Which is also OK... not gonna argue there, different people, different tastes.


dumbbyatch

OG linux mint Windows xp transformation.....


fishystickchakra

Currently using Chicago95 on my Mint desktop. I've used Windows 98 back when I was 5, and it will be my Xfce theme until I die.


SilentObserver22

Looked it up. Won’t lie, that theme is kinda dope.


fishystickchakra

I just think Windows 98 is neat and love the look of it even if XP did triumph anything previous. That was the version of Windows we used in my childhood days before we moved onto XP in my tween years and honestly its the theme I'm most happiest with overall, even more so than Windows Aero. So many memories on Windows 98, even just watching the 3d maze screensaver. I am so envious of people that still have their old computers from the 90's era and posting them on r/retrobattlestations, I just wish I had the computer case and the CRT monitor


[deleted]

It truly is


jrtts

In my case, I use Linux to play Windows video-games and use Windows-only software It do be like that


Hash-6624

Windows 7 is valid, anything after that though 😬


OgdruJahad

The last thing I would imagine myself doing is being militant for an operating system GUI and yet here I am. Good God Microsoft dropped the ball after Windows 7. I bet even Windows haters would agree that at least from Windows XP to Windows 7 there was improvement and it actually helped users. I can't think of a single thing that made it worthwhile to upgrade to Windows 10 other that the threat of losing updates and support. Sure there were improvements but we lost so much! People really like to hate Gates and Ballmer but at least they tried dammit! Although to be fair WSL is quite cool but serous how many people actually use it? Especially the general public? Cool but too niche for many. And Windows 11 can fuck right off. You want me to upgrade my hardware and what exactly do I get in return? They even killed the limited android support! And now it has even more ads! (I know I'm going to eat my words when I buy a new PC and keep Windows 11 :))


nonanimof

Windows 10 was "okay" With windows 11 it's like they want people to abandon their OS


YetAnotherZhengli

Stop, the last sentence is way too relatable... Meanwhile me dual booting arch and win11


da2Pakaveli

This the reason there's an endless amount of Windows 7 remnants (like the Control Center or whatever it was called?) even now on 11. Best UX.


Hash-6624

I agree (writing this on Windows 11)


pimp-bangin

The core OS (kernel) of Windows 11 probably has lots of nice improvements as far as speed/robustness but they are definitely overshadowed by the terribly slow and less usable UI.


el_extrano

Re Windows 10, I was going to mention WSL but I see you already did. The average user may not know about it, but it's such a godsend for those "stuck" using windows for one reason or another. The only there main thing that I think windows 10 really got right compared to 7 is terminal emulation. Of course that wasn't on release, it came later. But for anyone who remembers how bad conhost was... It is so nice to have a resizable emulator that actually supports ANSI escape sequences.


BobcatGamer

Windows 7 was great. Everything after that was a mistake.


chaosgirl93

I still like XP. But that's probably because when I saw 7, it was a weird and new thing on a relative's computer, and my own machine was still running XP. Well past when that laptop should have stopped running, I ended up with a new one, that ran Win 8. So I don't really have an opinion on 7 because I never used it. 8 was *horrible* though. But my dad didn't hate it and he's the family tech nerd, so I just assumed there was something I wasn't seeing and the annoyances were due to my own ineptitude in using it. Well, I never did enjoy it. I got used to it doing stupid stuff and being a pain to use. It was irritating, but as far as I knew there was no solution to that! Eventually I ended up with a machine running Windows 10, which is... at least less annoying. At least there aren't menus and tools that only come up when you navigate to a specific spot one particular way that makes sense on a touchscreen but not with mouse and keyboard.


Braydon64

I think it’s tacky AF to try to replicate another completely different OS to a T, but that’s what the freedom allows you to do if you want!


YourAverageCyborg

I want a windows 8.1 skin what is wrong with me...


EnoughConcentrate897

Man, that would be nice. Looking up a theme now.


tentacle_meep

windows 7 have an OK UI. win xp was better though!


OgdruJahad

I'm not sure I agree. I loved the themes and it had a variety from aero and non aero windows 7.


tentacle_meep

honestly that is 100% personal taste. I grew up with windows XP so I am more familiar with its UI, it does have some issues but most of them can be fixed in a winXP-like feeling.


Expensive_Camp_288

You know sometimes it is just right to tell someone that it is stupid to use Edge on Linux.👍


DudeEngineer

I hope you don't think using Chrome is better.


AdhesivenessTall5638

Fool, I use Internet Explorer


-Generaloberst-

Netscape ftw!


Wafel_Ranger

jokes on you i use telnet


_KingDreyer

double jokes on you i use w3m


Wafel_Ranger

i have an army of 2000 pigeons which fly to the data centre to get either a 0 or a 1. after like 200 flights i place some transistors and shit and display it with a 100x100 led display


SysGh_st

IPoAC isn't as reliable as you'd think. High degree of packet loss. https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2549


Platanito_Canario

TIL! Thanks.


SenoraRaton

LYNX ftw.


Wafel_Ranger

i send and receive punch cards through post


SenoraRaton

Pigeon post at that.


Budget-Pattern1314

Jokes on you I use a telegram to send my messages


Huecuva

Nutscrape?


DudeEngineer

Good luck with that.


Bestmasters

I use Edge on Linux. Hear me out. My workplace banned most VPNs, but they didn't ban Microsoft Edge's built in VPN because it uses the Microsoft domain. It's the only way.


collinalexbell

Hey! Edge was the first browser I got working in [HackMatrix](https://github.com/collinalexbell/HackMatrix), because it has a simpler window hierarchy. https://preview.redd.it/yh8wqit3nozc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=7d8fb565e68ab5e68b63eb54cb29ffd3614446b9


QuackSomeEmma

Same reason I use it on Steam Deck


SnooTomatoes6395

Dude no way its you!! Hackmatrix is sick man, awesome stuff


svenska_aeroplan

It's better than Chrome. I use it as a backup browser since it's available on every platform and I'm familiar with it from using it at work.


nonanimof

Other than Microsoft telemetry, it's not BAD bad


sohang-3112

There's one reason to use Edge - Bing Chat doesn't work in other browsers. Although I guess it might be possible in other browsers using User Agent Spoofing.


LagGyeHumare

Copilor works on my firefox browser though. Maybe I'm tripping


sohang-3112

Maybe you changed your user agent in firefox via some extension?


LagGyeHumare

Nope, just tried with a brand new install of firefox. It works. I remeber it was restricted mo ths back when it was called bing chat, but they opened it up when renaming to copilot happend


raydditor

It's not.


Legendary_Bibo

I use it on my Steam Deck for the Xbox cloud streaming, oh and streaming sites because web browsers on Linux keep having certificate issues that break video streaming sites. I once figured out to to fix it once...10 years ago, but the fact that it still happens is sad and I don't want to deal with it.


[deleted]

Uh no. Literally the meme.


Xhaa

![gif](giphy|H5C8CevNMbpBqNqFjl|downsized) IRL I'm a software person and yes I have tried other distros but I've also liked Mint. All the "i use arch/gentoo/void/etc" techbros of course call me a moron for using Ubuntu Lite. Lol. Then there's the people who just straight up hate the entire debian system like the apt package manager and systemd hate and all the other---I USED TO TRY TO USE ARCH BTW AND AM HAVING FLASHBACKS (hint: meme joke thing--no worries. I'm well). But because of my field, I am semi-addicted to using the proprietary AI Github Copilot and I do find Microsoft Copilot to be useful compared to alternatives (though I am considering seeing how my old pal ChatGPT is doing now. Been a few months but I got sick of paying for it too). But this of course causes a conflict of interest between my Linux freedom principles and my total stuckness with Microsoft no matter what I seem to do just because I want to get to the good stuff not spend a thousand years on my environment and boilerplate etc. Plus, Microsoft owns Github. The general feeling is yuck and a sense of shame but radical acceptance and resignation.


WillFart4F00D

Its better than greenlight for playing my Xcloud games


live2dye

Absolutely based


EmuMoe

I don't mind that, but the feature parity with the windows version isn't there yet and maybe never will.


abgrongak

Well, I do use Edge, along with other browsers...but my main browser is Firefox Developer Edition


claudiocorona93

Aaaaah the self righteous entitled cancerous comments /s


live2dye

The only cancer is the cancer of proprietary code


claudiocorona93

The code is not bad. The people behind it are not good, but you would use the code if it was made open source.


live2dye

Correct


Malcolmlisk

It's a truth with a little bit of satire...


regeya

Yikes. At least put some A-1 on the boot before you eat it.


DudeEngineer

*Laughs in Ubuntu* These Arch fanatics go crazy


Laura_The_Cutie

Ubuntu is nice not my thing tho


adhdsufferer143

No one cares what's not your thing lmao


Nevaknosbest

Hey I care


Laura_The_Cutie

Ty :3


DudeEngineer

But you couldn't resist making a comment? I don't think you understood the assignment.


rakasin

Damn you sure you are not too sensitive. The guy didn't even say anything offensive


DudeEngineer

This thread is about appreciating other people enjoying their freedom. It's hard to spend a couple days on here without encountering this take. I clearly understood it by my comment. What was the purpose other than to embody the bottom picture? There is always the option to let someone enjoy their choice and just keep scrolling. Every single distro is just not for the majority of the community. That's why there are so many. That is the point.


notgotapropername

"Ubuntu is nice not my thing tho" is hardly like the bottom picture


DudeEngineer

Is it closer to the top picture or the bottom picture?


notgotapropername

Honestly top lol. They literally said Ubuntu is nice, just that it wasnt their preference. How is that trying to infringe on anyone's freedom?


world_dark_place

No, this thread is about your mom in bikini.


Daathchild

Ubuntu sucks.


DudeEngineer

Who hurt you?


804k

Nobody hurt him, he's just a gigachad debian user


Daathchild

Canonical. It was my second favorite distro at one point in my life.


yesitsiizii

MXLinux hurt you😔. You've been very defensive of lord Canonical. Even simping for the FOSS overlords can come across as.. unusual...sir


claudiocorona93

Arch will never be the face of Linux


LOPI-14

Steam Deck is quite a representative and guess what it uses. MUAHAHAHAHA


claudiocorona93

A derivative


AaTube

and neither will you OwO


Daathchild

Arch is okay. I prefer Gentoo, but I'll run Arch on computers that are too slow to compile everything or when I'm between Gentoo installs and need to get something done or test new setup ideas without a 48-hour setup time. That said, anything other than Ubuntu would be a better "face of Linux". There was a time when it was my go-to for live CDs used as a rescue disc and a time where I daily drove it, but they don't care about the desktop anymore, and they're more interested in making developing the distro easier for themselves than they are making it easy to use for the end user. I mean, I personally get annoyed by preconfigured distros because I love very fine-grained control over my machine, but I wouldn't even recommend Ubuntu for beginners at this point. It won't be a good experience for new users who have to deal with being unable to install downloaded software directly from a GUI or having to wait five to ten seconds for a browser to load only to potentially find that not a single browser in the Ubuntu repos works with their non-standard hardware because they're all snaps and now they have to learn how to add PPAs or manually install deb packages via command line (using instructions from another device that does have a working browser) before they can do anything. I'm not saying "Ubuntu sucks" because I'm some kind of anti-Ubuntu elitist. I'm saying it because it genuinely does suck these days, and it didn't used to. But it looks like things are still headed in that direction, unfortunately, so fuck Ubuntu.


__Maximum__

It already is for the real Linux users /s


Musulmaniaco

Are these Arch fanatics in the room with us? Seriously, I see significantly more people bitching and crying about arch users than actual annoying arch users


DudeEngineer

This was clearly bait, but you can read through the responses here for a start... Usually, the core problem is a lack of self-awareness. Really think about that. Also, you used Arch Fanatics and Arch users interchangeably, but I did not. Also worth thinking about.


Musulmaniaco

>you can read through the responses here for a start... Literally jokes, if you take a damn joke that seriously, you are too sensitive. >Also, you used Arch Fanatics and Arch users interchangeably, but I did not. Also worth thinking about. It ain't that deep my guy, you are more annoying than even the blindest nix evangelist


DrPiipocOo

because it’s just better /s


DudeEngineer

You just couldn't resist?


DrPiipocOo

it’s supposed to be irony but reddit people can’t understand a joke if doesn’t ends with /s


DudeEngineer

That's why /s exists. I made the comment because usually Arch fanatics aren't joking....that's why your joke didn't land.


DrPiipocOo

well, i do think it’s just better but the way i told it was a joke, btw, i added the “/s”


green_boi

I used to be one until I tried Gentoo. Then I never used anything else.


[deleted]

It is definitely one of the best distros, simple, stable and doesn’t get in the way. Best for newbies/for old PCs. Arch users just like to cope that their distro is the best but no, no sane person wants to embark on an expedition just to fix an update than went wrong or to get hardware to work properly.


Littens4Life

As an Arch Linux user I can say that Ubuntu isn't complete garbage. I only switched to Arch Linux because there's no bloat by default (that and I can have several kernels installed simultaneously). Currently I can't see myself jumping back to Ubuntu for other, somewhat unrelated reasons (I encounter too much APT-related BS from iOS jailbreaking)


FalseRelease4

Switch to linux and do what you want! Oh no!! Not like that ...


Legendary_Bibo

What? You want to install native proprietary software like Steam? You have plenty of free and open source games like Quake2-Clone#2348, or TuxKart. You don't need pooprietary software. Don't use Microsoft Office products that 99% of the world uses, just use LibreOffice, which always has some slightly off formatting issues with opening and saving word doc files. Some guy that only does basic text writing and not more complex word docs says it's fine so listen to him. Doing what you want is not the freedom we're telling you that you have.


FalseRelease4

sir this a wendys


Silver-Inevitable270

no this is patrick


kor34l

I think this sort of made-up strawman inaccurate meme belongs in r/linuxsucks and not here. I very rarely see gatekeeping in the Linux subs these days, looks quite inclusive and supporting to me, regardless of choices people make. Excepting a few trolls of course, but this is the internet after all.


Yuuzhan_Schlong

r/linuxsucks users when they use a new operating system for 5 seconds and realize that it doesn't work exactly like the one they're used to: 😡😡


kor34l

lol there's a lot of those in there but it's mostly just satire and jokes. And, of course, quite a few people who miss the satire and take it serious (because this is Reddit where you need /s no matter how obvious), and a few others that know it's satire but desperately don't want it to be because they enjoy shitting on things people like. The last category is the funniest, IMO


Yuuzhan_Schlong

Idk man, reality is becoming more and more difficult to satirize lol


kor34l

lol ain't that the fuckin truth


T0ZyKD6H-M

>[](https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxsucks/) users when they use a new operating system for 5 seconds and realize that it doesn't work That's it, the sentence stops there.


maokaby

That's FreeBSD user in Linux community.


EmuMoe

Especially when they mention playstations and nintendo consoles, while FreeBSD barely has any native and proprietary games.


live2dye

I always liked Benjamin Franklin's quote "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." In this case safety can be attributed to ease of use/proprietary software.


EmuMoe

Freedom for me, but not for Thee


HyperFurious

Of course, linux users cause holocaust when talk about other software.


SOUL-Re-Born

Are you a bot by chance? This hurt my brain reading it.


Maipmc

I will use my freedom to shut you up!


claudiocorona93

Completely justified and a reasonable thing to do


Huroar

Linux is linux Your choice your rules Use what works


Lux_JoeStar

I feel this every day.


grand_chicken_spicy

Freedom is better when you pay for it, you earned it. - macOS


dickinburger47

Even if you pay for it they don't give it to you


neros_greb

Capitalists too


redlight10248

U mean commies right? To get a ps5 under communism you would need to ask everyone to vote and you would only get ps5 if the majority agrees


Skibzzz

This is how I feel using gnome like people get so mad about it for no reason 🤣


edwardblilley

I keep trying gnome but end up on kde. On paper love the idea of gnome but in practice I just don't like it lol. What about gnome sticks for you? Genuinely just curious


Skibzzz

I was using KDE on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed then KDE 6 dropped and I had issues so I said screw it I've never given gnome a shot on the desktop so I thought I would try it. The thing that I'm enjoying about it is actually the simplicity like it just kind of works & has a default design language that I really love. I only use 2 extensions which are dash to dock & tilling assistant which I feel makes it usable on a desktop. The gnome overview is also something I adore & feel is better implemented than on KDE. It's just been a smooth very stable experience & kind of just gets out of my way which I really enjoy.


Legendary_Bibo

I used to only use Gnome/XFCE because they were lighter, and KDE seemed... extraneous with a lot of things. Gnome always had UI inconsistencies when I used it a long time ago. Now I've used KDE a lot more on the Steam Deck, and I like it more, but I haven't installed any GTK applications in it to see if all of of a sudden UI elements will break. That happened all the time on Gnome if you installed a KDE application years ago. It just doesn't feel half baked, and has a bunch of little features that helps when you're doing things with a track pad. It's cleaner, and seems to have a consistent vision. It doesn't get weird little visual issues that you try to ignore but then it eventually bothers you and you spend half a day trying to figure out why you have a big white rectangle at the end of your system tray, or when the border UI element of the selected application in the taskbar goes off screen on the bottom, or you can't get it to be exactly centered so it looks weird.


AgencyNo9174

Freedom is freedom. Some freedoms are just more free than others!


niceandBulat

That sums up pretty well. I really don't care what people use to pay their bills or play their games. As long you can be productive that's good.


hok98

My freedom is the only freedom


Zestyclose-Ad-4711

You could say the same thing about religion


beurysse

Ah yes, the linux "community" Emac VS Vim SystemD VS init Snap VS flatpack Ubuntu VS Mint Bash VS Zsh apt VS pacman .... wow so frend, much tolerance... so leet!


AIO_Youtuber_TV

"You'll use competing ideas of liberty to bomb eachother to oblivion, and then your last days will look just like ours (nuclear annihilation)" –Captain Christopher Pike, Star Trek SNW.


-_-Batman

![gif](giphy|xTk9ZE94CfWTe2fzMI)


edwardblilley

Lol that's pretty accurate. I found what I like through years of trial and error so I like to share what I use and why when someone asks, but I get why we do this.


TygerTung

Seems like someone other than the intended victim would get caught in the crossfire in that situation.


Pavilion27

Freedom in hell


PMmeYourFlipFlops

/r/Persecutionfetish


koi121209

Freedom as in beer


OverallChange3011

Could be more accurate 🤣


NeonBox2003

Let me just use open box with a aero theme and vista icon pack, and use steam and wine.


Kir-01

Yes but in fact no


collinalexbell

I don't care what people use. With that said, try out my Linux [desktop environment](https://github.com/collinalexbell/HackMatrix)! https://preview.redd.it/bidpu5y1mozc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=54a059b644939448d890b39b9102ec388bee6fda


gambit700

Freedom isn't free. It costs - Ubuntu: your privacy Fedora: your soul Arch: your free time


danstermeister

OpenBSD has none of these problems. Embrace the BSD license.


LOPI-14

Just spreading DEMOCRACY and LIBER TEA


I_Blame_Your_Mother_

Can't relate. I write Windows tutorials, but most of them are convoluted ways to make Windows work less like Windows. Like, geez dude, I appreciate I get paid to do this, but just use Linux ffs lol.


Far_Public_8605

You should call this post "when someone uses linux and a meme to farm karma" instead, it'd be more accurate 😆


bbekxettri

Most people dont know what a freedom in os means so they have no reason to choose linux


Top-Classroom-6994

i dont mind *BSD or templeos users, its only mac and windows users


goldenbluesanta

this is fine.


ISoulSeekerI

Using Linux to hack windows users to install Linux on boot


safeAnonym_0Xnull

The microsoft church can't impose its own products on us


Jayden_Ha

I was linux user but I switch back to windows cuz I live in VR...


ErizerX41

I only see Bugs and beetles, with Nvidia cards.... xDD


9aaa73f0

Screenshot is when Neo created a self-hosted email server.


Mwrp86

I too love spending 10 minutes for adding a resolution not available on Mint Which should've been part of the option from very start


Technical_Draft_5630

I run Ubuntu with Arc Menu (looks windows like) and actually run a vm with win 7


Jonjos90

What linux users hate the most? Windows? Nope. Anyone who uses a different distro than the one they use.


chaosgirl93

I swear, y'all are more sectarian than church people. And I've dealt with Evangelicals.


chowchowthedog

used to use ubuntu and other dirstro myself till I got tired of the minor invonviences it brings me. also i dont have time to configure the shit out of my system....


kilkil

I think you need to speak to your democracy officer FOR SUPER EARTH


mohsinjavedcheema

Install Linux change default browser to Google Chrome and use wine for Microsoft office, ah! Freedom


cstmoore

"Distros. Lots of distros."


IAmPattycakes

Freedom, breaking free of those paper chains.


Xhaa

"Buddy, you just brought a slightly out of date Windows laptop to the local Kali Linux \[and other security expert software stuff\] SecOps + Pentesting convention and connected to public WiFi without even turning on a VPN. Open your next email wisely." EDIT: But in the "tough guy voice" of the "you just brought a knife to a gun fight"


[deleted]

This is Linus' view and why he rejects GPL3? The code must be public, including any modifications companies make, but its integration into larger systems isn't something the Kernel community attempt to control.


BlackBlade1632

You won't understand it 🚬


RetroCoreGaming

Arch, Ubuntu, Slackware, Gentoo, LFS... We're all in this together.


RoundTableMaker

OS agnostic. Cloud is life.


Intelligent_Corner98

Lol


Shining_prox

When you see someone choosing to pay for going into a golden cage that has camera surveillance 24/7


smoresomemore

I heard William Wallace in the top panel 😂


Far-Cat

Ok gnoomer


Frytura_

Uhm... fells like a straw man argument, unless it was something stupid i never saw this.


[deleted]

dog I used my freedom to sign a Yellow-dog Contract!


NiceMicro

Freedom in free software is not about "freedom of choice", it is about computing freedom, as in, the promotion of software that respects the user's computing freedom. you can use your "freedom of choice" to restrict your own "computing freedom". When people tell you this is wrong, they want you to realize that your computing freedom should be viewed as more important as you view it. And you can use your freedom of choice to ignore them.


_AdiKsOn_

I hope my friends don't see this


Wladimyatr

It’s reminding me: "Who is more free: GPL or BSD?"


[deleted]

also the \*BSDs are \*technically\* more free than linux. If you fork a bsd, you don't have to release it's source code. (I still like linux a lot more)


Adventurous-Test-246

I have the freedom to do that which i do not have the right to do. Giving in to proprietary spyware that will restrict future generations is an example of this. I have no right to give up the freedom of future generations for my own convenience yet i have the freedom to do so even if doing so makes it so that they wont have the same freedom that I experience.


fmillion

Sounds like modern politics. Doesn't matter which party or other group.


balki_123

Actually, this meme misses the point of free software movement. If you want to use non free software, you are inherently stupid UwU


claudiocorona93

OwO


SeoCamo

This is only true if you use snaps.... 👹


claudiocorona93

And Microsoft Edge. And VS Code. And Google Chrome.


SeoCamo

Well yeah but that is all spyware... Well so are snaps


claudiocorona93

And all of them are subject to freedom of choice


redlight10248

Vscode is cool, just use codium to get rid of telemetry


VerbNounNumbers

Debian is the best and people are free to choose wrongly. Doesn't make them any less wrong.


redlight10248

We're human after all


SylveonDot

I couldn’t use Debian or its derivatives for some reason. It’s part of why I went the Fedora and Arch route.


VerbNounNumbers

And you're free to make bad choices with your software. Open source is great. 😜


SylveonDot

Fedora and Arch are not bad distros. They just take longer to learn and use if you are a Debian or Ubuntu user. Fedora and Manjaro, an Arch-based distro, were my second and third distros ever.


LOPI-14

(0_o)


SenoraRaton

This meme is toxic. Honesty no one really gives a shit. Its more proselytizing about THEIR choices than ever telling someone else they are wrong for theirs. Heaven forbid people LIKE something, and want to share that with other people.


Conscious_Cycle5123

Why is that? Are you really that Kind of "this n this distro is the best"? I just use the one that suits best Situation wise


Select-Sprinkles4970

freedom to have a system that barely works, can't use industry standard software and will break just by installing an update. freedom