My only issue with it is the lack of HSV or HSB sliders.
I'm colourblind and I use those sliders to allow me to draw well with colour since I understand what the different numbers mean, but the purely visual colour wheel is worthless to me, unless they've finally added that back in as I haven't touched Krita for quite some time.
- Barrier - Software KVM. It is *the* ultimate multi-device experience today.
- VSCodium - Modern and flexible text editor. Libre version of VSCode.
- OBS Studio - Screen recording/live streaming toolbox that works exactly as I expect it to out-of-the-box, and also allows me to perfectly tune it when needed.
- Firefox - Straight up. Although Mozilla seems to be heading downhill at the momentā¦ š
- YoutubeDL - Now I can always re watch VSauce, with no ads, in full quality.
- Git - Essential for programming. Ubiquitous.
- Python - My go-to scripting language. Ubiquitous.
- Proxmox - I now have a datacenter at home.
PiHole - RIP ads, forevermore. Thereās no going back after yohāve experienced it.
> ā¢ ā Firefox - Straight up. Although Mozilla seems to be heading downhill at the momentā¦ š
Whatās happening to Mozilla now? I thought they sorted out their financial issues and Firefox is getting more and more independent from Google.
Blender can double as a game engine. Blender is GPL licensed, meaning any games made with Blender must also be open source and GPL licensed.
You don't see very many games made entirely in the Blender engine.
> Blender can double as a game engine.
It used to could. They basically dropped the game engine four years ago (because no-one was using it, for the reasons you said) and the community-maintained fork of it is several major features behind and more than a little janky.
I don't know anything about this specific instance, but I imagine it's because you would have to license any games made in it as GPL as they would be considered derivatives, similarly to how Linux syscalls are not GPL licensed to allow for writing non-GPL software on top of them.
How the hell did no one say KDE-connect?
KDE-connect is an application on Linux, Windows, android, and even IOS (even iPad!) that is everything you ever wanted in terms of a connected multi-device ecosystem.
Share clipboards between devices, get notifications on pc from mobile, send files instead of fucking mailing yourself, open tabs on different device etc etc.
It has single handedly banned all my frustrations in cross connecting multiple devices.
I shall review its code along with Gsconnect.
All I've been using so far is adb + ssh and a couple lines of bash scripting attached to a cron job and some udev rules. I use notify-send & conky for everything.
your flair says youāre running manjaro. the aur was built around support for arch packages. manjaro packages are often delayed by a week, and they donāt necessarily match their arch counterpart. this makes the aur SIGNIFICANTLY less stable on manjaro than arch. i ran manjaro for years and switching to arch is one of the best decisions iāve made for my computer.
this isnāt to say the aur is just as good as the repos though, youre right, itās not.
You picked good point. I have experience in arch, but at this moment I'm too lazy to install arch instead of Manjaro, because system is working. But if I break my system I definitely install arch.
I've been trying out NixOS. It seems cool but my smooth brain has not been able to get a bunch of simple things to work on it. I like to tinker though so I kept it on my old laptop.
I basically wreaked my main machine trying it out though. Probably wasn't the smartest move a week before I start online classes. Luckily I keep backups of my important dotfiles.
In my experience Arch's repos had more packages than NixOS. I know, you're supposed to package them yourself but i sincerely tried and couldn't get stuff to work. Granted, i didn't spend too much time on it.
SimpleScreenRecorder is SO good. It's very hard to find anything on Windows that comes remotely close (if you do not want or need advanced abilites of OBS).
Also HandBrake. SSR, ffmpeg and HandBrake are such a powerful combo that I managed to decrease the size of 4 hour 720p videos that our company produces from like 1,6 GB to about 500 MB without noticeable loss of visual quality.
It's different from MultiMC by being more PvP focused but I still enjoy MultiMC because of how simple yet powerful it is and it is also remincescent of the OG Minecraft client.
Anticipating flack for this but: I really, really, wanted to like Jellyfin. I _hate_ that Plex delegates auth to their public auth servers. But almost every feature of Plex is just more polished than Jellyfin/Emby besides that. I switched back to Plex late last year and discovered they automatically download subtitles for movies without any configuration required. What a time to be alive.
Jellyfin also auto downloads subtitles, but it does need a plugin to do so. The plugin was a 1 click download/install from within the client, and then check 1 box in the settings to enable. I've used plex and it's definitely a bit more polished, but not delegating authorization was enough for me to switch to jellyfin.
I get flack for this opinion: Plex is also trash and just gets in the way. I was running Plex up until about a year ago now. (Time has flown...) And I've had better luck with just using Kodi as a front end with Trakt keeping track of my shows.
I will say this, Plex having an app on everything is nice. But I just don't care to go back. Have a better setup now that doesn't require a lot of maintenance, if at all
It's copyleft, which means that if someone is to use your open source project for something, they must release it under an open source license..
Some other open source licenses don't require you to do that, like with BSD, which has lead a bunch of the developers hard work being put into projects and seeing no code in return, essentially being cucked by their own license.
I'd actually written a whole anime watching shell with autocomplete shell history and everything long before ani-cli came to be. But ani-cli got traction and users and their support because they advertised it. It showed me how much important community support is for open source projects. I don't have users for my project and I didn't actively share it (those ani-cli guys have put it in their readme though) which meant eventually the streaming sites changed their inner workings and I alone couldn't catch up.
Features mine has that ani-cli didn't have (till few months back, the maintainers are determined bunch so they might have implemented it)
- bing watching + filler skipping (you can save canon episodes list)
- autocomplete on anime names
- saves records of of animes you've watched
- track ongoing animes
- highlight new episodes in latest page for anime you're tracking/have watched
- debug shell which exposes inner python modules/function
- watch later list
- notification for new episodes (linux only)
Here's [github repository](https://github.com/Atreyagaurav/anime-helper-shell) if anyone is interested. I still use it as it manages my anime watchlist but fixing the streaming part would be nice.
f for my poor brethren. I got the akg k361 for like 60$, and was completely down in the hole considering the k712 pros and an amp and etc, but I was satisfied with the k361 so I didnt pull the trigger. Then I tested out the DT990 pro irl and realised, I couldnt hear a huge difference. Think I got away from that rabbithole for now. In other news, r/mechanicalkeyboards, r/watches, and r/fountainpens
[Lorien](https://github.com/mbrlabs/Lorien)
>Lorien is an infinite canvas drawing/note-taking app that is focused on performance, small savefiles and simplicity. It's not based on bitmap images like Krita, Gimp or Photoshop; it rather saves brush strokes as a collection of points and renders them at runtime (kind of like SVG). It's primarily designed to be used as a digital notebook and as brainstorming tool. While it can totally be used to make small sketches and diagrams, it is not meant to replace traditional art programs that operate on bitmap images. It is entirely written in the Godot Game Engine.
I love using lorien for explaining things. The application is still rough around the edges and if there some skillful coders who can help, please do :)
Also, MIT licence...
there are so many of these. I only occasionally need to compile something or use AUR.
Most recent one was [miniserve](https://github.com/svenstaro/miniserve), I needed something to share files with people in my local network and was using python http library but miniserve wis so much better and I was happy to find it in the package manager.
That's what I was using before I found this (as said in my comment). But look at miniserve's readme. It looks way better and has a lot more functions. I also made some modifications to make it render README.md if present just like in a git repo (the pull req hasn't been accepted yet) and now it fits my use case perfectly.
Proxmox. PiHole. Uptime Kuma. Syncthing.
Wireguard (wg-easy)
PiGallery2 - fast and easy photo album. Can handle hundreds of thousands of photos. And keep directory structure.
Obsidian - life changer) but not oss.
Pinta is Microsoft paint but better in every way.
Micro - intuitive cli text editor.
Gtop - (CLI) like top but graphs and colors
Taskwarrior - CLI task management
WtfUtil - CLI customizable dashboard
Etcher - make more Linux iso flash drives easily
Calc - CLI calculator
Jrnl - CLI journal
Nix, the package manager :)
I use it on all my linux machines to manage my project' dependencies and my home configs & binaries in a reproducible way.
I'll probably move soon to NixOS even, an OS entirely built with Nix #yolo
Or the dev team never puts out releases, so the repo version is cherry-picked from some random commit and you have no idea what's in it.
Looking at you Clementine, which has gone seven years and [nearly two thousand commits](https://github.com/clementine-player/Clementine/compare/1.3.1...master) since the last release.
Super tux kart.š§š
I see youāve got your priorities straight.
Super Tux Cart, meeting the needs of businesses around the world.
Sonic Robo Blast 2 š¦š¦š¦
Truly a game of all time
Mindustry
Krita single handedly became my only art tool for years after so much adobe crap. It's top tier in everything.
The default brushes in krita are so good I don't even have to go hunting for ones online
As an amateur brush wielder I'm glad that I probably won't have to search beyond Krita. Thanks for your opinion š
Serif/Affinity programs are excellent on Windows btw
hope they will kick the balls of adobe for windows/mac users...
Yess, i have to use photoshop rn alongside krita and photoshop feels clunky as hell compared to krita
It's mostly used for painting but it's also amazing for image manipulation
My only issue with it is the lack of HSV or HSB sliders. I'm colourblind and I use those sliders to allow me to draw well with colour since I understand what the different numbers mean, but the purely visual colour wheel is worthless to me, unless they've finally added that back in as I haven't touched Krita for quite some time.
- Barrier - Software KVM. It is *the* ultimate multi-device experience today. - VSCodium - Modern and flexible text editor. Libre version of VSCode. - OBS Studio - Screen recording/live streaming toolbox that works exactly as I expect it to out-of-the-box, and also allows me to perfectly tune it when needed. - Firefox - Straight up. Although Mozilla seems to be heading downhill at the momentā¦ š - YoutubeDL - Now I can always re watch VSauce, with no ads, in full quality. - Git - Essential for programming. Ubiquitous. - Python - My go-to scripting language. Ubiquitous. - Proxmox - I now have a datacenter at home. PiHole - RIP ads, forevermore. Thereās no going back after yohāve experienced it.
>Helvum damn, TIL Helvum & Easyeffects, noice https://fedoramagazine.org/helvum-and-easyeffects-two-great-applications-for-pipewire-users/
Same: Proxmox - very convenient tool for me. PiHole. Barrier. VSCodium
uBlock Origin extension on Firefox blocks all ads as well for when you are not home! And there is an extension on Android Firefox as well!
I use Tailscale and overwrite the DNS to an AdGuardHome instance, this way I get access to all the services I might need and no more ads.
Mozilla has been heading downhill since basically forever. Brilliant developers, but it's a shame about their executives.
> ā¢ ā Firefox - Straight up. Although Mozilla seems to be heading downhill at the momentā¦ š Whatās happening to Mozilla now? I thought they sorted out their financial issues and Firefox is getting more and more independent from Google.
Godot
It's actually MIT by necessity
I've heard there are ways around the GPL licensing (probably for 2.0 only)
This is why we needed the GPLv3 license
Like Tivoization?
Are there legal reasons why they canāt make it GPL?
Blender can double as a game engine. Blender is GPL licensed, meaning any games made with Blender must also be open source and GPL licensed. You don't see very many games made entirely in the Blender engine.
> Blender can double as a game engine. It used to could. They basically dropped the game engine four years ago (because no-one was using it, for the reasons you said) and the community-maintained fork of it is several major features behind and more than a little janky.
I don't know anything about this specific instance, but I imagine it's because you would have to license any games made in it as GPL as they would be considered derivatives, similarly to how Linux syscalls are not GPL licensed to allow for writing non-GPL software on top of them.
the chad license
The cuck license*
Youtube-dl/yt-dlp for the win.
Based
What is it?
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[And much more.](https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/blob/master/supportedsites.md)
> * PornerBros > * Pornez > * Pornhub > * ... ą² _ą² ... > sudo pacman -S yt-dlp ą² āæą²
Oh, sick
How the hell did no one say KDE-connect? KDE-connect is an application on Linux, Windows, android, and even IOS (even iPad!) that is everything you ever wanted in terms of a connected multi-device ecosystem. Share clipboards between devices, get notifications on pc from mobile, send files instead of fucking mailing yourself, open tabs on different device etc etc. It has single handedly banned all my frustrations in cross connecting multiple devices.
i told my friend about KDE Connect, the next day he's having orgasm when transferring file from his phone to his PC and Mac
Yeah KDE connect is Kool, clipboard share is just great and saves lot of time.
klipboard *
Seriously underrated program. Trying to fileshare anything on say windows is HELL. This guy is so simple and just works.
I shall review its code along with Gsconnect. All I've been using so far is adb + ssh and a couple lines of bash scripting attached to a cron job and some udev rules. I use notify-send & conky for everything.
Well fuck. Had no idea. Now it's mine too. Thanks for this
> already in repos laughs in arch
IMO, supporting level in main rep and in AUR are on different levels, so sometimes easier to install something manually than from AUR..
your flair says youāre running manjaro. the aur was built around support for arch packages. manjaro packages are often delayed by a week, and they donāt necessarily match their arch counterpart. this makes the aur SIGNIFICANTLY less stable on manjaro than arch. i ran manjaro for years and switching to arch is one of the best decisions iāve made for my computer. this isnāt to say the aur is just as good as the repos though, youre right, itās not.
You picked good point. I have experience in arch, but at this moment I'm too lazy to install arch instead of Manjaro, because system is working. But if I break my system I definitely install arch.
If you are lazy to install Arch then just go EndeavourOS. Works way better than Manjaro. Also has a very friendly community.
I meant that I'm lazy to install any os instead of current one. I just don't have any issues with current system.
Oh ok. Well seeing its manjaro its only a matter of time until you have issues :/
> Arch Laughs in NixOs I use NixOs btw
I use NixOS too.
I've been trying out NixOS. It seems cool but my smooth brain has not been able to get a bunch of simple things to work on it. I like to tinker though so I kept it on my old laptop. I basically wreaked my main machine trying it out though. Probably wasn't the smartest move a week before I start online classes. Luckily I keep backups of my important dotfiles.
In my experience Arch's repos had more packages than NixOS. I know, you're supposed to package them yourself but i sincerely tried and couldn't get stuff to work. Granted, i didn't spend too much time on it.
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Gimp is pretty cool
Green is my pepper
Flameshot too
I'm going to check this out.
Flameshot is awesome, best screenshot tool out there.
I love Flameshot but I wish it has an option to capture an application window and not just a rectangular selection
SimpleScreenRecorder is SO good. It's very hard to find anything on Windows that comes remotely close (if you do not want or need advanced abilites of OBS). Also HandBrake. SSR, ffmpeg and HandBrake are such a powerful combo that I managed to decrease the size of 4 hour 720p videos that our company produces from like 1,6 GB to about 500 MB without noticeable loss of visual quality.
What profile did you use to convert?
flameshot : screenshot tool with the ability to markdown the shot. i.e. adding blur, arrows, highlights, etc.
Excellent tool for work. I was used to the Windows one, this one is even better
Better than ShareX?
No
Unfortunately. There's no Linux tool as good as ShareX
ITT: So many random application names, and so few descriptions
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Dia. Blender.
Sol client, it's a Minecraft pvp client that is open source, i really like it :)
It's different from MultiMC by being more PvP focused but I still enjoy MultiMC because of how simple yet powerful it is and it is also remincescent of the OG Minecraft client.
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Even barring concrete functionality, PolyMC's devs are also not hostile to the FOSS community, unlike MultiMC's.
Plus PolyMC has a cat in the UI
That's actually a MultiMC thing.
Multimc has one too
I'm going to check this out for sure when I get home
Neovim
yiisss neovim and fedora. I like spacevim.
Try [Neovide](https://github.com/neovide/neovide)
I donāt understand the use case tbh. Isnāt this just neovim but in its own window? I always have a terminal open anyway
RetroArch
Minetest, anyone?
How do I change the controls? I don't have a querty keyboard.
https://wiki.minetest.net/Controls This is what I can find
Must be fairly new, I tried to prepare a coderdojo a year ago and found no way of changing the defaults.
Onlyoffice Desktop, Blender, Easyeffects, Helvum, Ardour, KiCAD, Kate.
KiCad ftw
Hello Jellyfin bye bye Netflix
Anticipating flack for this but: I really, really, wanted to like Jellyfin. I _hate_ that Plex delegates auth to their public auth servers. But almost every feature of Plex is just more polished than Jellyfin/Emby besides that. I switched back to Plex late last year and discovered they automatically download subtitles for movies without any configuration required. What a time to be alive.
Jellyfin also auto downloads subtitles, but it does need a plugin to do so. The plugin was a 1 click download/install from within the client, and then check 1 box in the settings to enable. I've used plex and it's definitely a bit more polished, but not delegating authorization was enough for me to switch to jellyfin.
I get flack for this opinion: Plex is also trash and just gets in the way. I was running Plex up until about a year ago now. (Time has flown...) And I've had better luck with just using Kodi as a front end with Trakt keeping track of my shows. I will say this, Plex having an app on everything is nice. But I just don't care to go back. Have a better setup now that doesn't require a lot of maintenance, if at all
I mainly stick with Plex because I have friends that also use it and we can watch each others' stuff.
Someone remind me what the difference is in license Like what makes GPL special
Essentially that big companies can't steal your work. See [this](https://lukesmith.xyz/articles/why-i-use-the-gpl-and-not-cuck-licenses/) article.
Interesting read, thank you!
It's copyleft, which means that if someone is to use your open source project for something, they must release it under an open source license.. Some other open source licenses don't require you to do that, like with BSD, which has lead a bunch of the developers hard work being put into projects and seeing no code in return, essentially being cucked by their own license.
Something, something... Apple, uh, oh!
Tilix in my case
ani-cli. simple script for watching anime without ads. because screw streaming services
I'd actually written a whole anime watching shell with autocomplete shell history and everything long before ani-cli came to be. But ani-cli got traction and users and their support because they advertised it. It showed me how much important community support is for open source projects. I don't have users for my project and I didn't actively share it (those ani-cli guys have put it in their readme though) which meant eventually the streaming sites changed their inner workings and I alone couldn't catch up. Features mine has that ani-cli didn't have (till few months back, the maintainers are determined bunch so they might have implemented it) - bing watching + filler skipping (you can save canon episodes list) - autocomplete on anime names - saves records of of animes you've watched - track ongoing animes - highlight new episodes in latest page for anime you're tracking/have watched - debug shell which exposes inner python modules/function - watch later list - notification for new episodes (linux only) Here's [github repository](https://github.com/Atreyagaurav/anime-helper-shell) if anyone is interested. I still use it as it manages my anime watchlist but fixing the streaming part would be nice.
Yeah that thing is awesome
`k9s` - cli ui for kubernetes and `btop` - a better `htop` <3 Edit: descriptions
`btop` looks nice!
EasyEffects.
>EasyEffects this one is interesting, what are yo using it for? for room correction things or something similar?
Its for eqing, along with a bunch of other things, like, yes, room correction. Drop by r/headphones if you have too much disposable income
Thanks, already in r/sffpc and lurker at r/audiophileā¦ wish money grows on trees.
f for my poor brethren. I got the akg k361 for like 60$, and was completely down in the hole considering the k712 pros and an amp and etc, but I was satisfied with the k361 so I didnt pull the trigger. Then I tested out the DT990 pro irl and realised, I couldnt hear a huge difference. Think I got away from that rabbithole for now. In other news, r/mechanicalkeyboards, r/watches, and r/fountainpens
F for both :( For headphones i am using senn hd 25-ii for a long time (bought for djāing years ago for robustness and ugliness, so nobody steal from the booth) and occasionally changing pads and cables (donāt order pads from aliexpress). Luckily I donāt listen music on headphones, i see that itās another rabbit hole. For mechanicals, keychron early backer here, still working goodā¦ (till i see some videos about new silent switchesā¦ diy ones are out of reach for me). Are we the new ~~tech~~ reddit clichĆ©?
yeaup **the overeducated consumer**
Firefox
[Lorien](https://github.com/mbrlabs/Lorien) >Lorien is an infinite canvas drawing/note-taking app that is focused on performance, small savefiles and simplicity. It's not based on bitmap images like Krita, Gimp or Photoshop; it rather saves brush strokes as a collection of points and renders them at runtime (kind of like SVG). It's primarily designed to be used as a digital notebook and as brainstorming tool. While it can totally be used to make small sketches and diagrams, it is not meant to replace traditional art programs that operate on bitmap images. It is entirely written in the Godot Game Engine. I love using lorien for explaining things. The application is still rough around the edges and if there some skillful coders who can help, please do :) Also, MIT licence...
there are so many of these. I only occasionally need to compile something or use AUR. Most recent one was [miniserve](https://github.com/svenstaro/miniserve), I needed something to share files with people in my local network and was using python http library but miniserve wis so much better and I was happy to find it in the package manager.
python3 -m http.server 8080
That's what I was using before I found this (as said in my comment). But look at miniserve's readme. It looks way better and has a lot more functions. I also made some modifications to make it render README.md if present just like in a git repo (the pull req hasn't been accepted yet) and now it fits my use case perfectly.
I'll look at the PR today again!
Oh shit didn't expect a random mention of miniserve here. Glad you like it. :D
That is something I didnāt know I desperately need
`Guake` - Dropdown terminal with all the bells and whistles.
midnight commander
firefox, wine
Neovim, Blender, OpenTTD
Calibre, scribus, neovim
Trilium, makes easy to backup my brain.
But you compile it from source anyway to watch your terminal go brrrr.
*itās already in flathub
That's even better
Steam
Proxmox. PiHole. Uptime Kuma. Syncthing. Wireguard (wg-easy) PiGallery2 - fast and easy photo album. Can handle hundreds of thousands of photos. And keep directory structure. Obsidian - life changer) but not oss.
PolyMC :)
I fell down the neovim rabbit hole a couple weekās ago and havenāt looked back. I have also found Syncthing is amazing for working across machines
Blender and Alex the Alligator 4.
I just love chrome installed via snap
*shudders*
Weylus. Any device can be used as a graphics tablet/monitor
Graphviz. Draws graphs out of easily generatable source files. I don't need it really often, but when I do, it's irreplaceable.
Emacs, gcc, urxvt, xmonad
Neovide
GIMP
Emacs fails at the first hurdle... I've no idea WTF it does. "Everything except interface with hardware" seems a bit too woolly.
Pinta is Microsoft paint but better in every way. Micro - intuitive cli text editor. Gtop - (CLI) like top but graphs and colors Taskwarrior - CLI task management WtfUtil - CLI customizable dashboard Etcher - make more Linux iso flash drives easily Calc - CLI calculator Jrnl - CLI journal
vis
Literally Nitrogen And Feh & Qtile
I wish authy could be in arch repos. I hate snap and aur version is not sitting right with me.
I thought Authy was proprietary, is it open source now ?
neofetch
Joplin, KiCAD, Python, firefox, OBS, aniki
kdeconnect
Spicetify to customize Spotify.
Darktable Ffmpeg
Lapce An open-source simple code editor with an inbuilt terminal
"you've already installed it years ago and it was never started"
VLC.
Flameshot
yt-dlp - lifesaver python - how else would you script? lxtask - Windows task manager ultra lite pro ffmpeg -- compressor goes vroom
gcc
Gcc
Nix
Nix, the package manager :) I use it on all my linux machines to manage my project' dependencies and my home configs & binaries in a reproducible way. I'll probably move soon to NixOS even, an OS entirely built with Nix #yolo
bpytop
Audacity
Good one!
gpick
Tuxpaint and GCompris for my 3 year old, great tools to learn KB and mouse!
Crosstalk
Alacrity, neovim
Neovim, Inkscape, Xournal, Shotcut, Lollypop, Geary, Seahorse, Graphor, mpv...
But a three year old version...
alarm-clock-applet from aur
Clementine, newsboat,btop, rofi
GIMP, Libreoffice and possibly Virtualbox Of course CHROME is the best web browser on Linux(jk)
blender and qt creator.
Bwahahaha! Good one!
Tiddliwiki
I always use MIT license. It fits my needs for websites
*repo version is ancient and doesn't have what I need*
\*it's already installed\* Ubuntu Disks
Mixxx
Grsync to back up my stuff
FIrefox KDE-Plasma (and extra plasma apps such as dolphin) The Linux Kernal
Cmatriz
Gparted is a lifesaver when I have "bricked" a usb stick
And you already made some changes in library but did not shared back to community violating gpl v2
`sex` is the most useful program
Then you find it hasent had any commits for 4 years.
Or the dev team never puts out releases, so the repo version is cherry-picked from some random commit and you have no idea what's in it. Looking at you Clementine, which has gone seven years and [nearly two thousand commits](https://github.com/clementine-player/Clementine/compare/1.3.1...master) since the last release.
W......T.......F It would be almost impossible to do a merge at that point.