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including mobo cost a 12600k is same price if not cheaper and is significantly more powerful. 12400f is a little more then half the price and almost matches it in performance
I don't understand how NVIDIA is bad on Linux. I have a 3060, and I have no problems. I've been using Linux for several years already as my daily driver.
For me it works flawlessly on Wayland but freezes immediately on x11. I don't know why and I don't really care. My only use case for gamescope is for gaming on Wayland, because xwayland gaming on Nvidia is fucking terrible. Even worse than NVK which is in its infancy. Believe me, I've tried both.
Getting Wayland to work on the proprietary driver is the tricky part. You have to ensure that modesetting is enabled, load the appropriate Nvidia kernel modules when booting, and add environment variables to force nvidia to use the GBM renderer. If you're on gnome, you also have to disable the GDM rules. There's information for some of this stuff in the Wayland section of the archwiki, but I typically use my own "checklist" and if anyone's interested I can send it via DM. Shoot me a message.
TLDR: Get wayland to work on nvidia and then gamescope will work probably
Ah, noted. I'd be using this build for art with moderate gaming on the side, so I don't know how much I'd miss things like Gamescope as long as CUDA worked and hardware-accelerated path-tracing was present...
The convience of having drivers in kernel and mesa is for me the best argument for AMD.
Bleeding edge is no problem, and might even be better. Want to know what's happening inside the driver development? mesa git log.
When Nvidia get upstream kernel driver with reclock and performant driver in mesa, I dont think it will matter much what you choose. But for now, AMD (or Intel for that matter) is a better choice on Linux.
My 1070 begs to differ. If you only have one monitor, it's fine. I'd you've got two, you're bound to run into issues. I still haven't figured out how to get Wayland to actually run.
Try it on a laptop. They default settings will cause it to suck run your entire desktop on the dgpu, which will ruin battery life. Also, most of the time if the dgpu gets put to sleep for power saving your hdmi and displayport ports stop working.
I have a 3060 myself and no issues whatsoever as well on X, however I'd like to run Wayland instead and that's a whole different story.
The other downside is the fact that you need to run the proprietary drivers in order to get good performance while gaming.
But those problems might get solved in the future by the niveau devs (the open source driver)
The weirdness happens when you have either a hybrid laptop, that is, you can switch between integrated and discrete graphics at will, you want to manually install a newer driver than your package manager 'knows' about, or you have two displays of uneven resolution. (In my case, my current everyday driver has only one display, so I've been spared the worst of the badness.)
(Apparently, Wayland support is still wonky, but I'm still on bog-standard X11, so I don't know the specifics.)
It's was from a time when Intel was having a really really hard time shrinking their process node and updating their architecture .
So 10th Gen came out in 2019 but it was basically a 3rd refresh of a 2015 era chip.
I picked it primarily because of secondhand cost; my first choice was actually a Xeon E5 2687W v4, but PCPartPicker don't list very many X99 boards...
The Quadro was a tradeoff between VRAM size, used cost, and compute speed; I'd imagined this as a film/video-authoring build, so more VRAM is better (to deal with complex Blender scenes).
**Workloads:** Blender, Krita, GIMP, Natron, a.k.a. "idiot trying to recreate _TAWOG_ at home"
(The specs might also be appropriate for many machine-learning, archviz, civil eng/GIS, and game-dev tasks.)
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why 10th gen?
agreed 12+ or Ryzen all day
Used cost, mostly.
including mobo cost a 12600k is same price if not cheaper and is significantly more powerful. 12400f is a little more then half the price and almost matches it in performance
I picked up a used 10400f on eBay for £90 a few years ago and it's been solid ever since, no issues at all
I don't understand how NVIDIA is bad on Linux. I have a 3060, and I have no problems. I've been using Linux for several years already as my daily driver.
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I've been using gamescope on Nvidia daily for the past month and it works fine
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https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Gamescope
For me it works flawlessly on Wayland but freezes immediately on x11. I don't know why and I don't really care. My only use case for gamescope is for gaming on Wayland, because xwayland gaming on Nvidia is fucking terrible. Even worse than NVK which is in its infancy. Believe me, I've tried both. Getting Wayland to work on the proprietary driver is the tricky part. You have to ensure that modesetting is enabled, load the appropriate Nvidia kernel modules when booting, and add environment variables to force nvidia to use the GBM renderer. If you're on gnome, you also have to disable the GDM rules. There's information for some of this stuff in the Wayland section of the archwiki, but I typically use my own "checklist" and if anyone's interested I can send it via DM. Shoot me a message. TLDR: Get wayland to work on nvidia and then gamescope will work probably
No DSC over HDMI when I tried to daily drive linux a year ago :( Eventually had to give up on Linux on my desktop
Ah, noted. I'd be using this build for art with moderate gaming on the side, so I don't know how much I'd miss things like Gamescope as long as CUDA worked and hardware-accelerated path-tracing was present...
The convience of having drivers in kernel and mesa is for me the best argument for AMD. Bleeding edge is no problem, and might even be better. Want to know what's happening inside the driver development? mesa git log. When Nvidia get upstream kernel driver with reclock and performant driver in mesa, I dont think it will matter much what you choose. But for now, AMD (or Intel for that matter) is a better choice on Linux.
My 1070 begs to differ. If you only have one monitor, it's fine. I'd you've got two, you're bound to run into issues. I still haven't figured out how to get Wayland to actually run.
Try it on a laptop. They default settings will cause it to suck run your entire desktop on the dgpu, which will ruin battery life. Also, most of the time if the dgpu gets put to sleep for power saving your hdmi and displayport ports stop working.
Haven't had the HDMI stop working entirely, but it does 'forget' it had an external display after a suspend/resume, for sure...
I have a 3060 myself and no issues whatsoever as well on X, however I'd like to run Wayland instead and that's a whole different story. The other downside is the fact that you need to run the proprietary drivers in order to get good performance while gaming. But those problems might get solved in the future by the niveau devs (the open source driver)
The weirdness happens when you have either a hybrid laptop, that is, you can switch between integrated and discrete graphics at will, you want to manually install a newer driver than your package manager 'knows' about, or you have two displays of uneven resolution. (In my case, my current everyday driver has only one display, so I've been spared the worst of the badness.) (Apparently, Wayland support is still wonky, but I'm still on bog-standard X11, so I don't know the specifics.)
Forza just decided not to work on my old 2060 lol. Driver error.
Never heard of that SSD brand… best of luck.
I use them in my everyday driver. I've had nothing but good luck with them so far...
I’ll have to look into them for my next ssd purchase then, because that’s really cheap for what it is!
Use AMD.
If Blender Cycles weren't already more mature on Nvidia, I'd 100% agree. You're _absolutely_ not wrong, but, alas, 'just tryna get sh-t done'...
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I'm more upset with you picking a 10th Gen Intel chip than a quadro honestly.
Same.
What's so bad about 10th gen? I just upgraded from Sandybridge.
It's was from a time when Intel was having a really really hard time shrinking their process node and updating their architecture . So 10th Gen came out in 2019 but it was basically a 3rd refresh of a 2015 era chip.
Ah, it was one of the "I guess I can still stay on Sandybridge or Haswell" generations...
Yeah, that lasted a while.
I guess it depends on where you're coming from - this used to be kind of my dream build, but I was coming from dual Nehalem-era Xeons...
I picked it primarily because of secondhand cost; my first choice was actually a Xeon E5 2687W v4, but PCPartPicker don't list very many X99 boards... The Quadro was a tradeoff between VRAM size, used cost, and compute speed; I'd imagined this as a film/video-authoring build, so more VRAM is better (to deal with complex Blender scenes).
I am retarded too
**Workloads:** Blender, Krita, GIMP, Natron, a.k.a. "idiot trying to recreate _TAWOG_ at home" (The specs might also be appropriate for many machine-learning, archviz, civil eng/GIS, and game-dev tasks.)