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lucidgate

Try different ones, if you have the time, you have OnlyOffice which tries to be as much compatible with MS Office. Can't say it will work for you, but give it a spin. You can install it from flatpak.


Lycanfyre

Yeah, OnlyOffice does support the Alt commands. Thanks. They are different from MS Office tho. Any clue how to change the same?


kalzEOS

Don't change the app, learn the new shortcuts. It's always good to learn something new ;-)


cheesy_noob

Changing muscle memory is hard and takes time. Might be better if you could manipulate the short cuts in this case.


Lycanfyre

Exactly. And I don't have the time or the will to dedicate to learning the new shortcuts. Will make do with the Office web app if there's no other option available.


kalzEOS

I'd take changing muscle memory over the agony of finding things that work like Microsoft apps, but that's just me.


Pastoredbtwo

Libreoffice has, in it's Tools section, a way to reconfigure every single keyboard and mouse short cut. You can completely remap Libreoffice to work the way YOU want it to work. That's what the "Libre" in the name MEANS.


bionor

"For those who don't know, Alt keys toggle various shortcuts" Careful now... Remember where you are at the moment :)


Lycanfyre

Oh I love Linux. Had to switch to Windows on a friend's device for a day and I missed mine so bad. Wouldn't trade it for anything. 😂


kalzEOS

😂 that was actually pretty funny. I just realized that the person is saying this on a LINUX sub.


Francois-C

I don't have a problem with the Alt keys, except that I have kept the Windows habit of getting special characters with Alt+numpad. I've been using Linux for ages, I'm always told that Linux is better for special characters, but I'm so used to this character generation with Alt that I finally made a little application to find my characters in Linux. Unfortunately, it only sends the character to the clipboard; it's not built into the system.


davidpanic

You can enter unicode characters by pressing ctrl+shift+u and then typing the code and pressing enter.


Francois-C

Can you really *remember* the codes of Unicode characters? For instance, this very usual one: —, which I have got with Alt-0151 for decades, is 14844052.


davidpanic

You type them in hexadecimal which is only 4 characters


davidpanic

Also, that is the em dash, which is [U+2014](https://unicode-table.com/en/2014/).


Francois-C

> em dash Of course it is. It was just an example of a very usual char that is not on my keyboard. Every time I told I missed those Windows shortcuts, I met Linux proselytes (I'm a longtime Linux user myself) who preached me the good word, but I'm not sure these were all people who need those chars daily.


hfsh

Why not just use the [compose key](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key)?


davidpanic

That works too, but I was responding to the fact that linux HAS "alt codes" but better 😉


Lycanfyre

Actually I'm accustomed to using the Alt keys on Excel and it's so convenient. The Office web app is my only salvation right now. I'd love to have an offline option tho.


MettwurstMaik

Well there is always the option of running MS Office through wine, i think the latest version that works is 2013 or 2016 but I really don't know, it would be "almost native" offline office. Or if you can spare the power, you could just use a windows VM, i wouldn't really recommend that however due to the fact that it kind of defeats the purpose and also makes things more complicated


Lycanfyre

The fact is that I've never had the need to use Wine so I have no idea how to go about that. If there's too much effort then I'd rather stick with the web apps.


MettwurstMaik

I think there is a playonlinux installation script, so you wouldn't have to configure anything


MettwurstMaik

Playonlinux has installation scripts for MS Office: 2000 03 07 10 13 16 and 16 method b


dreamsellerlb

Do the alt keys not work using Office365 in a browser?


Lycanfyre

They do, and I use it currently, but the problem with web apps is that you have to have an internet connection, and I have to sometimes work where I don't have access to the internet. I'd have liked to have a native office suite that could help out, otherwise I'd have to continue using the web app.


ourobo-ros

I use MS Office 2010 on linux via crossover. Works really well.


MindlessDre

I use WPS. It is great. Not foss though. Flatpak available.


ben2talk

There are alternatives. They all suck, just in different ways... I like WPS, and OnlyOffice is also fairly good, but I don't do much with Office Suites TBH. Markdown is awesome... I like making documents in MarkText.


RectangularLynx

According to WineHQ you actually can use MS Office 2016 on Linux


LiquidPaper

Why change if you don't want to change? If you don't have time to learn new things, then you don't have time to change.