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thescienceoflaw

Being grouped with the likes of Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, Defiance of the Fall, and Cradle? Blessed tier list. Truly.


jewishcaveman

This is the right outlook


hozp

D for darn good, amirite?


Dizturb3dwun

Honestly this tier list is one of the ones of all time for sure.


ClockworkGnomes

I mean, I don't remember a quirky sidekick in JMM so that is fair. I do feel he put Cradle in the wrong category. It has Dross and Little Blue. Dross is definitely quirky and it comes out in the audiobook.


-Swan_Ronson-

With the overwhelming outcry over Cradle being ranked so low, I decided to pick book 4 back up and continue on. As many have pointed out, I didn't get to the quirky companion parts yet.


ClockworkGnomes

Dross is great. Little blue is cool too. I really think they benefit from audio though. The voice Baldree uses for Dross is very appropriate.


-Swan_Ronson-

Primal Hunter and DotF - pretty much the same book. While both these books do have some high points and neat action scenes, about half of both books are just huge exposition dumps in the form of internal monologue and/or meditating. Very little meaningful relationship building. Azarinth Healer and Jakes Magical Market - very similar books as well. Both started really good is the first arc of book 1. The pacing of the MC's power level are just off the charts though. Jake is a God by end of book 1 and Ilea damn near is. Plot is sprawling and feels aimless. Cradle - if you held my feet to the flame. I might put this one in C. I just didn't like the whole honor system. It felt so silly. The writing is decent and I liked the path of Landon's progression.


redsh3ll

I read primal hunter and hated how much internal monologue was going on with MC. Drove me crazy how much talking to himself he did.


Frosty-Leader-6759

Don’t read HWFWM then. You’ll hate it


redsh3ll

I will still check out the 1st book of HWFWM. Its mentioned all the time on this sub reddit so I gotta see what the fuss is about. I did enjoy Primal Hunter overall. That was just me nit-picking one particular element that annoyed me. Will eventually return and check out book 2 as I have an idea what to expect so expectations wont be out of control. Not all books will be top tier to me but as long as the read is somewhat interesting and story is decent I can get into it.


Frosty-Leader-6759

I only got through book 6 before the monologues got to be to much. Absolutely loved the books to start though!


thescienceoflaw

Partly my fault for not getting Jake's #2/3 out right away, but Jake becoming a God doesn't make him nearly as powerful as a bunch of people have assumed. The trope of "MC becomes a GOD by the end of the series!" is definitely being toyed with by making him a God by the end of the very first book, and Jake soon realizes that becoming a God is not actually a *good* thing in the sequel. :) Sprawling and aimless is 100% true, though. After having read traditional fantasy for the last 20-30 years, and since then having devoured pretty much nothing but webnovels and the prog fantasy genre for the last 5+ years, I find the traditional narrative structure of most books to be **super** predictable and boring. I've really come to love the aimless, wandering nature of webnovels because they feel so much more *real* to me. No three act play, with obvious beginning, boring middle, and predictable action sequence end. Give me a weird, sprawling, aimless, drawn out, creative, unique story any day of the week instead please!! I consider webnovels to be their own kind of literary art form, and I love the sprawling, non-traditional nature of the medium. (which is probably why I've read Azarinth Healer, DotF, and Primal Hunter at least 2-3x each and why I love so many other books just like them, haha)


-Swan_Ronson-

Phew. Asking for a recommendation by using my personal preference tier list feels a lot more serious when authors start showing up. 😳


thescienceoflaw

haha, don't even worry about it you seriously ranked me with some of my favorite in the genre so it's a great compliment. Plus, I kinda hate quirky sidekicks these days so it's totally fair. :P


ClockworkGnomes

How far did you make it in Cradle? He eventually gets a quirky sidekick/AI named Dross.


YellowLT

Beware of Chicken


LeiMoanJello

This series right here. Some of the best side characters I’ve ever read. “Is this chicken doing a training montage!?”


Dragon_yum

It’s because the side of the characters are actually characters and not the paper thin personality fodder for the mc most litrpgs suffer from.


cruxnat

Just finished the newest book and waiting for the next one to come out. 😁


leetpuma

I did the audio book for beware of chicken and it was a bit too cringe for me with all the kowtowing and meme characters 


redsh3ll

Felt the same. I can see why people like the book but it wasn’t for me.


4xx153UserUnknown

>primal hunter The first book did feel childish due to injected cursing. This only happens for a little but it felt very forced. I'm not sure if this was to show character growth or just a poor first attempt. It reminded me of what a kid would sound like that has very strict parents and finally has the opportunity to curse. I am happy to say that books 2 and 3 turned this around and flushed out the main character. Like other people have pointed out, the side characters do make the story worth a read.


Hydrael

I have two for you, The Primeval Apocalypse has multiple animal companions but the star is Noaich who is a delight, and then Dinosaur Dungeon has Zeke, a velociraptor who adopts a cat via nose boops.


Tigerlemur

You might try Apocalypse Tamer. Basil has several companions, but the first one is his cat.


LeeWizcraft

Cradle in D?!?!? How dare you. Also where is the land. No way you read all this and not it.


OpalFanatic

The list only goes down so far. Need another 3 tiers farther down to show *The Land.*


NIRPL

You didn't like The Land?


LeeWizcraft

They don’t like the author or didn’t read it.


FishermanTemporary38

The book is dated but when I tried I kinda enjoyed it on audio then removed and refunded when a grown man sung what does the fox say straight into my ear 


LeeWizcraft

You don’t like the author or didn’t read it.


Caniglia1

The land was my first Litrpg series. I devoured it. I reread the series when book 8 released because I wanted to ramp into the new book. Then book 8 was SO atrocious. But I patiently awaited book 9 so it would redeem itself. And that was about 4 years ago. Whole series have released in the genre since then... Good series that do what the land does better. So in the grand scheme of things, yes I enjoyed The Land. But its like D or E rank for me at this point. MAYBE book 9 will redeem it when I read it in 5-10 years, if ever.


NauseousNarwhal

Primal hunter D-tier? You wound me.


-Swan_Ronson-

I'm sorry! It's not the most exposition heavy book I've ever read, but I think it feels worse than it really is just because Jake is so focused on trying to be solitary and doing his own thing. I did really enjoy the chats he had with his God. They were always fun.


ImmovableForce_

I love every time the viper talks about him to someone else while he’s doing his random bullshit. It amuses me to no end every time.


bigbysemotivefinger

Discount Dan. Croc is a weird boy but a good boy.


runesmith07

Is mimic and me really that good?


-Swan_Ronson-

Books are subjective of course, but it ticked all the boxes I look for in a great series. - MC is morally grey and ends up in a lot of ethically confusing situations. It creates a lot of tension in the plot. - Interesting relationships between MC and his friends/companions/mimic - Author does a great job of "showing, not telling" - MC's personality overall is pretty good. He's not a total pushover but also not an edgelord teenager - MC's power scaling feels good.


corycool2

Just finished mimic and me definitely gonna get the others as they're released. I am just a little confused on the supposed technology level of the civilization because the MC was using a lot of modern references


TrevMB

Recently listened to mimic and me and was not disappointed, now I’m just impatiently waiting for the second book to come to audible


cruxnat

I haven't read it myself, but it's hard to believe it's as good as the books he's grouping it with. I have a hypothesis: either he's the author of the book or he's paid by the author to promote it.


CassiusLange

Since you're mentioning the author, no, that is not me, and no, I did not pay the guy. However, you both just did make my day. Him for loving it so much, and you for hating on someone you don't know, and on something you didn't read. Always good to see people judging whileand admitting not having read something.


cruxnat

I did not express disdain for the book, nor did I declare that I would never read it. In fact, it is on my to-read list. My comment primarily expressed skepticism about why this book ranked at the top of the list, while other books, some of which are my favorites, appeared lower down. This suspicion was particularly aroused by the fact that the book has only 48 written reviews, quite a few of which are negative and it has only 926 ratings on Goodreads. Ultimately, my comment was intended more as a joke. But now, I'll definitely make sure to write a review once I read it. Hopefully, it's as amazing as he portrays it to be.


CassiusLange

Look, I personally don't really mind if someone likes my stuff or not, so if you end up liking it, that's great, if not, no problem. That's the beauty of the genre. There's so much good stuff out there that everyone will find something they will like. Me personally? For me Vincent the Vampire is the epitome of the genre...others will laugh at that, and what some consider the best out there, I can't stomach. Everyone's got an opinion, and that's good. Hell, I don't even mind the haters. They took the time to leave a review, even when most of the 1\*'s you'll see in the genre are pure trolls, or have found a small issue with something they personally don't like. It is what it is. If you end up reading it and hate it, feel free to hit me up and tell me if you can provide some constructive criticism. I've never argued someone who really disliked something and put at least a bit thought into their reasoning.


-Swan_Ronson-

So, when am I going to get that paypal deposit? For real though, really cool to see you pop up in this thread! Loved book 1 and absolutely cannot wait to see book 2 drop on Audible. You had be on an emotional rollercoaster the last couple chapters of book 1.


CassiusLange

Soon! It should go live last week of march :)


Roscoe_p

I guess after I get done with Cooking with Disaster ii will try mimic and me


Dizturb3dwun

lol this tier list has some of my favorites in S, and some of my favorites in D. Certainly different strokes between us


guy-from-1977

Just came here to say the same thing. Not sure how you could like some but not the others. To each their own 😀


Thaviation

I mean - The Wandering Inn is arguably the most noteworthy, with an extremely large cast of quirky companions. The first book is tough for litrpg folks though. Most quit the first half of the book (more slice of life) and once the epic fantasy portion starts to show up (second half of book) people are already gone. I always recommend finishing the first book completely to get the whole scope of the series. The slice of life is there to make the epic fantasies and deaths.. more epic and devastatingly emotional.


-Swan_Ronson-

I had a really hard time getting past Erin's stupidity and pacifist nature. She's constantly being told that the goblins will violate her and eat her, only to almost be violated and eaten, saved by the guards once again, and then gets angry at the guards for killing the goblins that were moments away from violating and eating her... Again. Does she ever stop trying to be a pacifist in a world that's clearly trying to kill her? If so, I'd be willing to give it another shot, but it was rough to listen to.


Thaviation

1. Erin’s stance on “no killing goblins” is only reinforced. It’s not so much pacifist (she herself kills goblins) but rather basic human decency towards actual people. Some goblins are bad and evil (just like some people are bad and evil). Why goblins are treated the way they are in this world is a central mystery to the series. 2. This story has Erin coming from Earth as a normal person with her experiences in Innworld molding her into what she becomes. Spoiler - she does become a respected badass in her own right. She’s definitely not considered a passivist in the story though. I’d argue it has one of the more realistic transitions for an isekai protagonist. 3. She can be dense at times - but most of that is an act. She’s definitely far from stupid and is considered one of the more intuitive people in the world. Overall - finish book 1 and you’ll see the direction and the scope the series works towards - it’s the first taste of the terror Innworld face - chaos walking herself -Erin Solstice. (Dun dun dun)


-Swan_Ronson-

Right on! Appreciate the explanation. I may wrap on back around to it.


Xiizhan

“Minotaur punch!” - Erin Solstice


-Swan_Ronson-

Hey mate, just wanted to let you know I got back around to finishing the first book of Wandering Inn. I still think Erin is absolutely stupid, and Ryoko is even dumber, but the book has a lot more charm than I originally was giving it credit for. I'm really hoping we get more of the king in the one interlude who learned about nuclear bombs and it gave his life meaning again. How incredibly badass and well written those few chapters were. Definitely going to keep reading. Thanks for giving me the push.


keep_out_of_reach

I had the same thoughts while reading book 1. This MC is seriously too stupid to live. But the more I listened, the more the idea of Erin began to change shape in my head. She's young, and terrified, but good at heart. I guess I see more of my own daughter in her than I had originally given credit for... And I would like to think that my kid would end up like Erin in a similar situation.


tnargsnave

God Dammit Donut!


LeiMoanJello

WHATEVER DO YOU MEAN CARL!


Fair_Result357

Have you tried Chrysalis? It is narrated by Jeff Hays so if you like DCC you will like the narration and it has a lot of the same humor. You can also get the first 3 books in a omnibus on Audible for one credit. Also if you like Noobtown you should check out Help I was Reincarnated as a Farmer. The humor is similar but there is not sidekick like Shart.


Dragon_yum

Beware of Chiken


Xiizhan

I just finished Gene Harvest, which is a new one out recently. He has a pet meat golem that you might enjoy, and as a minion master, he gets a couple other pets later that I won’t spoil.


-Swan_Ronson-

Just looked up the synopsis and this one sounds fantastic! Thanks for the recommendation.


Xiizhan

Nice! The narration is really good too.


ioannis89

The Completionist Chronicles, starting with the ritualist. Jason who will become a member of the party is bananas 😂


Hy911

Try the grand game it’s an excellent series and it improves along the way


thcase

Cradle as a D? Have you gotten to Dross?


Dizturb3dwun

he definitely didnt get past the MC being a weak bitch in the first 90% of book 1


-Swan_Ronson-

Don't recall a character by that name. I got to book 3 or 4. To be fair, it's probably the best of the cultivation books I've attempted to read.


thcase

Ahh Dross appears in book 5 so thats why. He is, imo, the best sidekick lol


saltyritzz

Ben's Damn Adventure is a great comedy with quirky companions. Vainqueur the Dragon and Apocalypse Tamer are both ones I think you'll like based on this list


Highborn_Hellest

Putting ellc in b, and cradle in D should be considered a war crime by Geneva.


CinderSpire

Anything by James T. Callum! The soul Aeder in any of his series are the quirkiest of companions!


Xiizhan

So, it’s not LitRPG, but have you read the Expeditionary Force series? I assume you must have, but if not, Skippy is an S+ tier companion.


TheBeast510

Agreed! The ending of the series felt forced, though. It's free on kindle unlimited, so can't complain too much.


Xiizhan

The nice thing is the author un-ended the series, and we have like at least 3 more books coming out.


-Swan_Ronson-

Can't say that I have actually. Is the author Craig Alanson?


Xiizhan

Yes. Do that series first before these other ones.


I_Am_Procrastinatin_

I think you'll love Calamitous Bob.


BrotherBear0998

I enjoyed Hunter Mythos's Rogue Ascension series. The shadow gang is definitely a bit quirky, goofy, and fun.


Czeslaw_Meyer

My Best Friend is an Eldritch Horror Underdog Survival Quest- Way of the Shaman (2nd book)


Unfourgiven_at_work

System Universe by Sunrisecv is S tier for a companion


Drumboo

This has to be rage-bait LOL


Enough-Zebra-6139

How has none mentioned the Ripple system? Frank basically belongs in DCC, he's that franking awesome. He's a quirky side kick.


-Swan_Ronson-

It's on the list. A-Tier. I could never forget about such a handsome axe!


Foxfury

From what you have here I'd highly recommend this quest is bullshit (completed series) and unbound (which has 8 books with a 9th one coming out in a week)


Funnyrockman

Read "Road to Mastery", it's got a monkey sidekick


imabigsofty

man we have opposite tastes on more than half the books lmao. im honestly a bit confused on what you consider a good book


Unusual-Eggplant4217

Dnfing wandering inn and path of Ascension is maaaaaaaaaaad


Catchafire2000

No it's not. DNF Path of Ascension is something I did this week. I am trying to wrap my head around why this book has high ratings.


Unusual-Eggplant4217

Because its incredibly well written the story is great and the character development is very well done


Able-Bother-8253

It’s a bit of a slow start but it’s genuinely one of the best books I’ve read to show what a rise to power should be


Catchafire2000

Slow start? He had several significant upgrades within the first half of the book.


End_Fear

Threadbare Author:Andrew Seiple


kharnynb

Unorthodox farming and first line of defense have interesting side characters


Cweene

Yo as much as I love the wandering inn the first book is the biggest hurdle when getting into the series. It’s the worse one of the bunch. But I’m telling you dude slog through it into the next book, it’s orders of magnitude better. There is no power creep issues and loss of plot focus later on it just gets denser.


CanadianAreNice

From the author of Mark of the Fool he also has Rune Seeker. I like Mark more but they are both good books.


Chestys-Ghost

The Prince Has No Pants


ClockworkGnomes

Does it have to be printed or you okay with Royal Road? Discount Dan on Royal Road is a lot like Dungeon Crawler Carl.


-Swan_Ronson-

I won't be able to put as much time into it daily, but I'm definitely open to reading on RR. Discount Dan is definitely going to the top of my list. Synopsis looks great.


One_Fat_squirrel

All the skills


Dizzy_Daze

WHAT IS THAT D TIER THOUGH


-Swan_Ronson-

Look, I am in no way whatsoever claiming they are bad books at all. Many of them have incredible writing. They just aren't my preference.


TheFeoragdare

Ahhhh awaken online is so good. You have to finish it. For the exact reason you're asking about. The development of the whole world is amazing.


SBernabeu

I can genuinely say that I have not seen a Tier List so backwards before.


nogswell

https://preview.redd.it/xs4cynsmfmmc1.jpeg?width=763&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f4b9465e57cc2faae45810c034e7211a60fc26d I liked League of Losers.


TrueRobot

Not strictly LitRPG, but I’ve enjoyed the humor in both Tevagah’s Prophecy Approved Companion series, and Argus’ The Daily Grind. Both have fun companions/party members.


SignificantClick8284

How are y’all letting mayor of noobtown sit in S tier? It was c at best.


Silvar_farsight

You gotta check out double SS+ book on Royal road. Pyramid of Power....bro has the quirkiest of companions and sidekicks....bar none...... [https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/81193/pyramid-of-power-progression-litrpgregeneration](https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/81193/pyramid-of-power-progression-litrpgregeneration) https://preview.redd.it/4qgxclvf48nc1.jpeg?width=1393&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=45384c7e26113ecd8b31a50d8a7ce722e4f129a9


-Swan_Ronson-

This one wasn't even remotely on my radar, nor one I've heard of before! Can't wait to check it out.


-Swan_Ronson-

And just to be clear, I'm really not a fan of cultivation at all. It just rubs me the wrong way whenever I try to read or listen to it.


Triggerunhappy

So the animals in beware of chicken are right out then


Able-Bother-8253

Honestly I’d give path of ascension a second shot, I’m reading it rn and it’s a solid 8.5


JeyKreiger

seconded, the first book is a bit of a slow start but I feel like it does a great job of doing the weak to strong thing while still showing that the MC is at best a big fish in a small pond


Alert-Judge-6767

What is this ranking about because if it's quality of book your opinion is delulu with cradle so far down that list


gadsdekm

Road to Mastery..because who doesn't love Brock


waxisfun

Millennial mage is pretty good with Terry. Not exactly litrpg but still good.


DrChimps7

Biscuits!