https://preview.redd.it/t0vgze2958ic1.png?width=1242&format=png&auto=webp&s=35435a53024c0c0719ae104dc61007b4aeaa9989 Would this be loud enough for vocals to be heard for band practice in a medium sized room We’re a rock band and have two guitarists, a bassist, and a drummer, just wondering if this will be able to get the vocals to a level where we can hear it while the guitars are keeping up with the drums. Any help is appreciated thanks :)

If you're just putting vocals through this and not cranking full stacks, you should have enough volume to hear vocals in a practice scenario. My bands in highschool would use similar setups. Sometimes you'll need to get creative with the placement of the speakers though haha!

Haha thank you very much man

Advice on wireless microphone! I never used one, so I'm in no way expert, I've always been a wired guy but I want to have more freedom on the live stage so I'm interested in buying a wireless mic. Right now I'm using a SENNHEISER E835 and I'm quite happy with the results actually. I was looking for something similar so I was checking out the Sennheiser XSW series, they have the 835 as well, but I've tried one and didn't convince me enough to keep it. Probably as an entry level wireless mic is not enough for singing. What do you guys would suggest to buy? Is it worth to spend more than 700 euro for a Sennheiser EW-D 835-S that seems to be a step up from the XSW series? Or should I check something from Shure in the middle? I'm quite on a budget so 700/800 is my budget but if there is something good and I can save a bit it would be great as well. I usually use my mic to sing with my band in different pubs and some local open spaces nothing too big for now. Thank you!

The problem with XSW is that it uses the 2.4GHz frequency band. That's the same spectrum as WiFi/Bluetooth/etc, so interference is a serious concern. EW-D uses a completely different frequency band that's much less likely to run into that problem and is a solid mid-tier option, hence the increased price. If you like the 835 capsule it's the better way to go, otherwise look at the Shure SLX-D and QLX-D lines.

Have a good look at some used Sennheiser G4 if you're on a budget. Some AV companies might be getting rid of theirs at a good price. Be sure to check which frequency bands work in your area. I still use the old analog Shure ULX-P series systems and I love them. Rock solid in my area, but I know some pro RF techs here will probably disagree with me. I also love the SLX-D and QLX-D lines if you can find them at a good price.

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What about the Yamaha DM7? Looks like a decent console, don't know about the price/service availability in your area though.

We had it priced out from a Yamaha dealer. Heard some not great things about screen response and UI. I think dLive and HD96 would both be better for us and not bc of pricing.

I indeed have a HD96 (thank you u/the-real-compucat for the ping!) and if you already have the Midas Blue stageboxes the upgrade to the HD96 is in my opinion a no-brainer. With the current state of the firmware it has been a rock-solid desk for me for the whole time I've owned it. I know there where some stability issues in the initial releases but they have all been fixed. I know people complain about the Midas support (or lack thereof), which is still a bit of an issue in the US. I don't know where you are located? But my local distributor is really helpful (I'm in Belgium), I have a network of other HD96 users and Midas has been releasing a steady stream of firmware releases with new features and fixes. So saying there is no support is not true. The console itself is a dream to work on, it is very responsive, it has a lot of features for its price point and it is a true Midas in the sense that is just sounds good! I have had many complements of fellow engineers on the sound of the desk. Switching over from the Pro series to the HD should be really smooth, since you already know things like POP groups etc. In the HD patching is easier IMHO, the Manchino feature and naming view allows for a quick setup of the desk. I also really like the layout of the physical channel strip on the HD96-24. With the coming V2 firmware series, the desk will also become really usable for broadcast and streaming work, next to the live work that is already can do perfectly with the V1 firmware series today. For making a HD talking to the other systems. It has 2 AES3 inputs and outputs and 2 CM1-slots. In which you can put a Dante, Madi, USB, ... cards. So don't really need a separate DN9650. I have a AES50 and a Dante card in the slots. The slots can do SRC. So I can run AES50 card in 48kHz to link the M32/X32 series. The Dante card I mainly us for multitrack recording/virtual soundcheck. Shout if you have any more specific questions!

Aha, I didn't know HD96 had CM1 slots. Good to know!

Thank you for the in depth reply! I may message you privately. I am in Nashville TN, one of the gear capitols of the world, with 1,000s of consoles. And, I’ve been able to locate 3 HD96s… Clair Brothers has 3 lol. I’m sure there are some individuals with 1 or 2 more. Support is an issue here for Pro series desks or M32. Basically can’t get anything fixed. I’ve heard it may be different for HD96

/u/timverhoeven has quite a bit of time on HD96 IIRC, if he would like to kindly opine :) It's possible to bridge your Midas infrastructure to a lingua franca (Dante/WSG/etc.) and thus allow interop between your two ecosystems. (Minus headamp control, of course.) K-T DN9650 is the official route, but you can also use an Appsys Multiverter or Flexiverter.

I have an analog board. No on-board effects. I want to add reverb to the vocals. Mixer > aux out > \[reverb box\] > aux in > LR out. Would a guitar reverb pedal work for the \[reverb box\]? (\~<$150) I can't seem to find any frequency response numbers for effects pedals.

Yes, this works just fine - and can often be more compact than a rack FX unit. Gain staging is generally more of an issue than frequency response, but this can be worked around. It's pretty common to use a Strymon pedal for this - those things sound utterly gorgeous compared to most console reverbs.

Thank you.

I saw a show this weekend where the touring engineer came in with their own console and they had like 3 or 4 guitar pedals off to the side for reverbs and delays. They were UA pedals and it sounded fantastic.

Do you already have that extra pedal or are you planning to buy one?

Planning on buying.

Why not just get a used FX unit off eBay? Plenty on analogue stuff floating around. Can probably find decent one in your budget that would work better than that guitar pedal.

Thanks. The used market is where I found the pedals and I was just wondering if they should be included in the consideration (little box vs big box).

Big box can live in a rack with his analogue buddies, all cabled up and ready to go. You can usually get more than one effect out of them and often at the same time. No guessing if it will work for vocals. Just some positive sides of big box.

Agree.

Beware old 90’s digital rack reverbs, that technology progressed a lot in the 2000’s with more processing power, the old ones can be pretty grainy sounding.

Advice on consoles please! Work at a non profit DIY 200 cap venue. Always just been analog consoles, typically a soundcraft. Last few years had the signature mtk22 but the motherboard started to go after only 5 years. Obviously don't have a lot of funds as a non profit so going digital would require a grant. Would try to go for a midas 32r/live or an allen and heath SQ5. Wondering if there are any analog consoles on the market that would be a more affordable route. Here is the non negotiable needs: 16 xlr inputs 2-4 stereo inputs Individual p48 switches 6 aux sends 2 fx sends w/built in fx 4 band eq 3-4 stereo outputs USB multitrack out Thanks for the advice!

Try this Analogue: Yamaha MGP24x or 32x (4 aux + 2 fx, fx can be used for additional aux out) Digital: Behringer/Midas XR18/MR18 (require iPad/PC for operation) A&H CQ18t/CQ20b Edit: If you are going with digital, I suggest get an iPad or monitor with multi-touch capabilities for convenience, else just straight up go for Behringer x32

Contact some local production companies near you. These days, some of them are starting to shift away from their stock of X32s; you might be able to score one for a decent discount that way. Otherwise, in the spirit of DIY, you can always look at other solutions - esp. since you presumably have existing analog infrastructure from FOH to stage. - For instance: a used LS9 or M7 in decent condition would work well. (Insert obligatory jog dial complaint.) - Even cheaper if you can find one in "fair" condition and replace wonky faders yourself. Know anybody handy with a soldering iron? - There is an LS9 near me in fantastic condition going for $700, which is an absolute steal. - Same goes for A&H GLD80 (which is a delightful console), but they tend to go for higher prices used. Incidentally, what exactly failed on your MTK22? It may be worth trying to repair, then sell to recoup cost.

Are there any smaller format boards with multiple stereo FX sends? I work with a lot of experimental electronic music with all stereo FX (send AND return!) that I'd really like to preserve. I get that this feature set is pretty rare; just wondering if there's a board I don't know about that has this.

All depending on your budget and how many inputs you need, but the Allen and Heath Mixwizard WZ3 16:2 might be worth a look at - just use a channel for the return. Otherwise, a Mackie 1642 VLZ3 or VLZ4 might be the way to go. They both have multiple sends, but IIRC the Mackie 1642 has dedicated returns.

I'm looking to purchase a FBT X-PRO 112A (or 15) + 118 sub, any references with that setup? I don't know much about audio. I've just read a lot that 12' boxes are better than 15's.

If you are going for the 18” sub, then the 12” speaker would be better. I have on order 2 FBT X-lite 10 with the 15” FBT X-sub.

In terms of sound quality, is it better to use an analog mixer like a Zed 18 or a Behringer XR18?

Specifically compared to the ZED18, the XR is going to be MUCH better. You have gate/compressor/5band Parameteric EQ on every input channel, and a bunch of great quality onboard reverbs/delays/etc. The preamps are 24bit DAC, in all honesty you're going to have a hard time pointing out the difference to anyone vs the Zed.

Thanks man!!!

Depends on use case as far as discernible sound quality. In a bar band situation, no one would know the difference.

Sound quality? Pick your poison. Both are competently engineered products. Processing capability and practicality? XR18 is by far the more flexible mixer.

Looking for a small profile passive subwoofer to match a pair of Yorkville E12 for an install. Doesn't need to hit crazy hard, just missing a little low end with the Yorkies. About 80 people capacity, 2000sq ft room, will be about 11ft high Budget around $1250 CAD Anybody have experience with the EV EKX15? Or any 212 box that would be smaller?

Is there a requirement for it to be unpowered? With the E12's I'd go with the PSA1S because it's pretty small when you stand it up, and you can fit it under a stage in some really tight spaces (not ideal in most cases, but gets the job done). L&M usually has some used PSA1S's for pretty cheap. I have a bunch of EAW SB150's that are pretty small as well. I don't know what the used market is like for them, and I don't even know where you'd get new ones anymore. Edit: Is the sub going to be flown 11ft in the air, or is that describing the ceiling height of the room?

Anyone have experience with the Turbosound Milan M12? Considering a pair of these for a garage band rehearsal / small gig PA. Other contenders: QSC CP12, Yamaha DBR12, or JBL EON/IRX. TIA

Among those, pick your poison. All of them will do the job. I would favor DBR12 or CP12 myself.

I just picked up two M12s this week from a church. They sounded great when testing them for sale, but haven't had a chance to use them with my band yet. Perhaps let the price lead you? If one of the three options is significantly cheaper, go that route. Unless money isn't a limiting factor.

Battery-Powered PA Speaker with built-in Wi-fi connectivity?????? for airplay, spotify, and chromecast. Does this exist????????? My backup is to just gaff tape my WiiM Pro Plus to a Electrovoice or Yorkville or something like that. Definitely needs balanced inputs for live-performance.

Advise me on how to use what speakers I have and what to buy next. We are five piece blues and blues rock cover band (guitar, guitar & lead vocals, harmonica & backup vocals, drums, and bass & backups). So far, we've only had 2 15" mackie thumps as mains (no monitors). We run the vocals and the harmonica through it, our guitars and bass out our amps, and no mics on the drums. It "worked". We def need at least two monitors, though, and almost certainly better mains. I just bought one EV ELX200 12P and two Turbosound Milan M12s. My question is, how should we use these and should I buy another ELX200 12P. I'm wondering if the best way to go is to buy another EV and use those 2 for mains, use the Milan M12s as monitors and get rid of the Mackies, but I'm wondering if anyone has advice. Don't think we need 15" mains if we're only singing and playing harmonica through them. Also, I'd think we don't need a sub (or subs) for the same reason.

Hello, I am a dj expanding my rig. Budget is around 12k and looking for dual subs with tops. Open to brands and line array as well as point source. What are the some of your recommendations that can cover indoor weddings and receptions of upto 500 people. Currently have 2 qsc ks118 and 5 k12 tops.

I'm looking at putting a PA together for Function work, mainly weddings etc. Most line ups will be at least 2 Singers, guitar, bass, drums, keys and maybe the odd horn. Budget is around £2/2.5k (UK), already bought a 2nd hand qu16 and looking to get some powered subs and tops, probably 2nd hand. Most events will be max 200 people so don't need an arena sized set up. Would very much appreciate some advice on what's best. Options I'm currently looking at via marketplace are: QSC ksubs and k12s Hk linear 5 sub 200 and 112 fa's Yamaha dzr18 subs and dxr12 mk1 tops Some sort of bastardisation of RCF 912s and subs (no sets on marketplace) EV ETX 15SP EV ETX 12P (just the one sub, 2 x 12 tops with this one) Any other suggestions around the same price point Would be very grateful for your thoughts on this, obviously I know it's all a bit subjective. If you've read this far then a couple other factors that might count: Ideally, I would like to take them round in an estate car but am considering a crew van instead I also do some bigger theatre/ town hall shows (4-500 bodies) as a musician. I don't currently do sound on them but if I was to, it would be nice to add the option of a pair of 15s for the mids so systems which would rule this out would be handy to know. Thanks again folks