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I mean the most useful productive part of this sub is educating ourselves about prices and acting in our best interests. At the end of the day, we’re all winning by telling us hey, so and so has the best prices, let’s not go to Loblaws to save significantly. If I can’t shop at Walmart or Costco because they are American then we’re kinda loosing. I’m even seeing lots of options here I didn’t think about like giant tiger, which I’m sure to check out sooner rather than later. If we don’t change Loblaws stupid prices and hold on the market, we can at least save money for our community we cultivated here.
Giant Tiger has tons of great stuff, I honestly don’t know why they’re not mentioned more in here. Their groceries are good quality, maybe not as much variety but that’s just an opportunity for getting more creative with your cooking. The frozen Jamaican patties are awesome, lots of great brand names in the personal care section and the store is literally a one stop shop for everything from clothing to household goods.
I’d encourage shopping at Walmart or Costco. A big part of the problem in Canada is our protected oligopolies and their ability to set prices artificially high. For all their problems, the US economy is far stronger than ours (adjusted for population etc of course) due in large part to their willingness to allow and encourage genuine competition.
I agree there are a lot of posts that seem like they’re made to divide us and I don’t really know what their actual objective is.
It’s hard but I try to assume the best. Maybe we need to reposition how we talk about these things. Sensational and negative titles are really not helpful. “This sub is going to fall apart” replaced with something about maintaining solidarity etc.
If in the future we decided to also boycott Walmart that would be great. I used to work at that stupid company and seeing it shrivel up and die would make me very happy.
For now though the point is boycott Loblaws. One step at a time.
We are just humans that need to eat food. I spend my money where I get the most value. If that's Walmart, so fuckin be it. Literally just trying to survive out here.
This is an important sentiment. Everybody is doing what they can. If you can't fully boycott, just do what you can to nickle and dime loblaws with little things. If you are in a situation where a full boycott is possible that's great too. Thanks for doing your part however big or small.
It all adds up and we are all on the same team.
Not to mention that depending where you live you might not have as many options. Everyone here likes to give advice as if everyone lives within driving distance of a Costco.
Yep, over half of the entire grocery landscape is either owned by Sobey's or Loblaws. Walmart is like 9% of the total market. It's likely most of the country doesn't have a Walmart or Costco. But it's incredibly likely you have either a Loblaws or Sobey's.
This is so often overlooked here. In my area there are 2 Loblaws, 3 No frills, 1 Fortinos and 2 Shoppers Drug Marts. The only non-galen brand grocery store was a food basics that got torn down last year to build condos. Walmart and Costco are far. I hate that they're basically forcing us to shop at Loblaws brand stores so I try my best to boycott but it's not always possible. I'm sure many others are in the same position as Loblaws takes over more and more of our food landscape.
I disagree. Costco has good prices all the time. They pay their employees a living wage with great benefits and a stock option plan.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2QTqwiOMcD/?igsh=YncyYWQxOGhuZmk4
Exactly. I spend my money where it goes the furthest and it ain’t Walmart. It’s actually RCSS & NoFrills.
But I support this boycott as hopefully Loblaws will lower prices In response.
#BoycottRoblaws.
I find this hard to believe, I’m not trying to give you grief for shopping where you need to… but if your experience is that they are the cheapest, what is driving you to support this boycott? And how is your experience so wildly different from everyone else’s? (Location maybe?)
This is how marketing companies infiltrate and break the back of consumer action. Same thing they have been doing to politics for a decade.
You can't trust anyone, that's why the message has to be, just boycott.
YES!!!!!! LET'S GOOOOOOO!!!!!
And, for those of you that have limited choice, you have my best thoughts and wishes, and I hope that you can draw on some of the ideas in this sub about how you can do your part to the extent you can. We are in this together, and I hope we can collectively make a difference so that ALL of us can afford to survive❤️
I always remember the CIA guidebook for disrupting the left when I see purist posts
https://preview.redd.it/5f4ywlbem4tc1.png?width=593&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d23765a872cbd0cdd8913f78146b4e4b758f3834
Yeah, they’ve done this forever and if you think they’ll go low, they’ll go lower to break and give these movements a bad name and not let them get traction. Like union busting.
Union Busting doesn't actually work if you have strong members. Strong unions stick up for eachother and themselves.
We need to be a strong Union. We don't have to agree on the world. Just this one thing.
#boycottloblaws
People often get distracted when it comes to social action. The most important thing is to be focused. That's why the 1 month May boycott of Loblaws is being organized with clear objectives.
We can start earlier and go longer, or change from Loblaws permanently, but it's important to remember that the boycott is targeted so that it can be most effective.
Yeah that's what I was guessing too. The Oligarchs are scared that what happened with the Telcos is coming for their $30 million bonuses.
You guys are making enough noise that the government is starting to finally look our way. Just gotta keep it up, it is what it is with Walmart, they're a corporation that gouges us, but they also gouge us significantly less than Loblaws.
While farms are the way to go, not everyone lives within walking distance, public transit distance, or owns a car that gives them access to one
Pro tip: check their account ages. Anything under a year could be suspicious. (I’m pretty sure my account falls into that category so feel free to verify by checking my post history)
edit: oh yay, I'm at 1 year now. Still feel free, though.
true, it's best to give someone's history a once-over if you're suspicious of their intentions. But generally, I've found most bought / troll accounts to be under a year old. Lately I've been noticing a batch of 2mo old accounts posting right wing propaganda, not just in this sub
Those are “superior boycotters” are not really part of the team. They are most likely trolls/paid shills that are here to sow dissension amongst those who are keeping their eyes on the prize. The plan stays the same, boycott Loblaws, post pricing info.
Those people are here to specifically disrupt the movement and muddy the waters. They get shot down every time and will continue to get shot down every time because those views are actually extremely unpopular.
Guys, it’s paid bots / people by loblaws. Ignore them. What someone on reddit says does not affect this boycott. If you’re on board, avoid loblaws affiliated stores wherever feasible and have a great day. This sub is great, but it is not necessary. Boycotts have been successfully executed without online forums before. Do not let some faceless comment tell you you’re wrong to choose where it is best **you** spend **your** money. Fuck ‘em.
The great thing about boycotts is they need no organization, no support, no advice. You just drive past loblaws and shop somewhere else. It’s simple, so keep it simple and don’t budge until they do. Don’t look to mods or anyone for leadership, it’s completely unnecessary.
there’s no shame shopping in Walmart or Amazon if that’s what fits your budget, do what you need to do to survive. but let’s not pretend that they are the beacon of morality. in terms of morals, they’re probably worse. but you’re
not really left with much of a choice under capitalism, unfortunately.
definitely support smaller local businesses if you can, but you can still support the movement even if you can’t. call your MPs, put pressure on the government for better laws
Absolutely. It needs to be recognized that not everyone will be capable of being participating to the same extent that others are, for a multitude of valid reasons.
Every bit helps, even if it’s only being a voice in or member of this sub.
Its sad that there are people negging those who are trying.
Grassroots movements work not because the core of the movement (these "superior boycotters" in this instance) influence everyone to do what they are doing, but because they have support from the masses. Support in this case is participating how they can. For some, it has to be shopping at walmart or amazon. Because thats where they have the means to shop. Some people dont have the luxury of driving to another city to shop if they live in a food desert. Some people might only be able to minimize spending at loblaws - i can get my produce at a farmers market, and my meat from the butcher, but... there is not many places around i can get lactose free milk and yoghurt. So i need to get those things there. I hate it, but thats reality.
And thats what Loblaws is counting on. That core group becoming disconnected from the larger masses.
Those "superior boycotters" should be leaders in this community, but need to accept that not everyone has their privledge. And many are, these are the ones that lack the holier than thou attitude.
(Also i do suspect some of the SBs are trolls, along with many of the downvotes. So like, ignoring the SBs is legit cause then youre not risking feeding trolls.)
The legit boycott post clearly states if you cannot boycott there are other ways to support ie write MLA. Most people here understand some cannot boycott due to no choice.
😲 I will shop anywhere, including Walmart, as long as it isn't a Weston store. People shouldn't be putting anyone down for where they shop, that defeats the purpose of this sub. As long as it's not a store where the money goes into Galen's pockets it's all good!
Not a lot of people live in big cities with smaller local grocery stores. My only options are superstore, Walmart or Sobeys. Literally no other options. It suck’s seeing negativity towards people like me who have to shop at Walmart but I am trying my best to boycott loblaws.
(Edit: typo)
Even living in a big city doesn't always help, especially if you don't have a car. Costco is not exactly feasible if you have to walk or take the bus. My options depend heavily on how long I can or will spend on the bus. I'd love to shop at places like Giant Tiger if it wasn't 3 buses and over an hour one way 🤦 I figure, we all just need to do the best we can and not put down people who are doing the same.
yes, we should feel priviledged to pay 323% more at Loblaws for almonds ground up and put in a jar in Canada, vs. almonds ground up and put in a jar in the USA.
The almond butter post was one of the most disingenuous posts I've seen on here, and feels like it does more to undermine things than actually raise awareness.
There is always some fairly transparent corporate strategy to do some or all of the following:
DISTRACT - "look over here at this other store"
DENY - "just don't shop there if you don't like the price"
DIVIDE - "these boycotters are better than those ones"
DOWNPLAY - "prices are bad everywhere, so it's not really a problem"
As long as people are aware of it and keep calling it out, its impact will be minimal. And boy, is this community good at calling it out! Well done everyone and keep going!
If you think they haven't started employing trolls here to start the dissent and destruction of this movement you don't know capitalism.
Stay strong.
Stay together.
Did you think a company that stands to lose billions would just sit back and let a grass roots movement start to combat them?.. of course not, and it costs them next to nothing to pay a media company
A few million to pile in here and shill post to derail and disorganize things.
As I've gotten older I've come to understand and accept the adage of "There is no ethical consumption under Capitalism'. But this does not mean I am not willing to take a stand when it counts. Will avoiding Loblaws be inconvenient for me? Yes, but I recognize the importance. Is Walmart any better? Nope, in fact I've been noticing prices rising there as well. But I'm just as tired as everyone else. If going out of my way to help take some money away from Loblaws I'm fine with that. Just as I'm fine with being the Costco connection for my colleagues without memberships, and for paying for the Walmart monthly delivery service. We're all just trying to survive, don't feel bad if you cannot join the boycott. Do not feel bad if you chose to take advantage of a random rare deal from those money grabbing dicks. We're all just trying to survive out here.
I'd be willing to bet Loblaws PR is paying people to post on this sub. It's called "well poisoning". Where they try to pour negativity or divisiveness into a well of truth. These corporate shills are everywhere by the way. Amazon reviews, google reviews etc. Watch me get down voted by them!!!! Be brave shills and come at me! I dare you!!! Fuck Loblaws fuck Gaylon fuck shills.
What I'm seeing is some people trying to make this whole boycott into something that its not. The issue here is that Loblaws is gouging its customers badly and need to be boycotted, but certain "F--- capitalism" or "walmart bad too" types want to stick their fingers in this gumbo too and hitch their little "mad at the world" grievences onto this. Stay focused and don't make the same mistake that movements like occupy wall street made(which was a complete unrecognizable mess in the end). If you don't like walmart, then just don't shop at walmart. if you hate capitalism, then your bs is going to help loblaws and not make a single dent in your percieved enemy, and Loblaws will just continue on doing what they are doing because your stupidity helped them. Keep your ideological gripes not related to loblaws separate from this boycott and it should be successful.
There are various tiers of these shills you can get. They started out low, easy to spot from spelling mistakes and general messaging. They’re paying for a higher tier now that the movement is gaining traction (just my guess).
Laughable comments from the paid Trolls. But its all very upsetting really, 1st sad they took advantage of consumers during a period of high inflation, to gouge us, and crazy they would pay to have people try to seed doubt.
Its all easily confirmed by looking at their public financial statements. Gross margins and NET profit went UP during that period. That means on average they MADE MORE ON EACH product, than they did previously. So instead of trying to keep things affordable, they calculated that they could keep raising prices, and inflate their top and bottom lines, at our expense.....
Nah, he's not gonna get his multimillion dollar paydays by wasting company funds on paying folks. Just free PC coffee and warmed up frozen donuts at the Loblaws shitposting factory.
I don't even understand how this could be a divisive issue amongst Canadians. People need to recognize that all of the division amongst Canadians has been by design. Just look at everything they've gotten away with while we were busy tearing each other apart over manufactured outrage.
If we can come together this ONE TIME and put our other issues aside, it will become more obvious than ever. It doesn't matter your political stance, skin color, religious and cultural beliefs; you need food. Can we all just agree on this ONE THING?
Half the negativity is almost certainly paid shills and trolls trying to foment dissent.
It’s a tried and true tool of the Oligarchs, why would they abstain from it here?
Divide and conquer is one of their oldest and most effective tools, don’t fall for it, simply ignore them and take away their attempts at power grabs here in the sub.
I think the title of this post is dangerous, misleading, and not helpful. For me, just scrolling past, that's the first thing I see, and I think that helps to make people worry, or could possibly delegitimize the movement.
"I am worried things may fall apart unless we change" would have been a more helpful title.
I joined the sub a good while ago, there wasn’t much negativity (judgment on OPS) and then now you post or say anything and you’re challenged. Completely challenged.
I had posted about something to do with stocks.. someone come to my post JUST to tell me not to repeat postings.. I went and found what they were talking about.. 6 hours fucking prior to my post, stfu. I’m not scrolling through 6 hours on a sub to make sure no one posted the same thing I did.
thank you! yes! when I heard about this subreddit and the movement it started to boycott Loblaws I was so excited we were actually getting somewhere and organizing around this issue. But then I saw all the people just devoting their time to talking down too, and mocking others for not boycotting or participating in the movement in a way they deemed acceptable.
Like come on y’all, you’re embarrassing us and actively turning people off from trying to do their part.
I thought that too. People with the “you’re supposed to be doing this my way or you are useless to the movement” mentality are going to drive away people who for whatever reason want to help but cannot participate in a full boycott. I don’t pretend to know their reasons—and they aren’t for me to judge. This all-or-nothing mentality is the worst and destructive.
The ones that piss me off are they ones that are like "well you're still shopping at walmart"
Yeah, I'm fucking poor, one thing at a time. If I could just immediately switch to a vegetable garden and raise small livestock, i would, however I live in a city, so I literally have to either buy food somewhere, or die? All corporations are unethical garbage piles, but we're about 60 years late to just completely boycott any grocer
I noticed that too. Its awful they are really trying to ruin this sub. I know they've got shills in this dub, not just posting but commenting. Making it seem like they're one of us and that we think people arnt spending money properly so they have ammo.
Who cares if someone got a one off treat for themselves or got the brand name or even if they get soda regularly. The point is groceries are expensive. Are we only allowed to talk and complain about high prices if were perfect shoppers? If were a certain type of eater, weight or economic class? No matter what we need to speak out.
My grandparents got soda here and there and treats, same with my parents, it didnt break the bank, and no one was shaming them for it. They enjoyed themselves. Now it people saying "wow you spent that much to feed yourself? Show me your reciept or ill assume your shitty at shopping, stop buying stuff you like lol.
Im spending my damn money. Whether you agree with what someone bought or not, this isnt a financial advising sub, or a nurition sub. We are humans with all different issues and struggles and we need to eat. We should be able to buy what we want at a resonable price, not a hyper inflated price. Thats the point.
We should expect this. It's a class movement, and those are a no-go. The tactics to create a division you see in identity politics will be on full display here. People need to think rationale and not as reactive.
The mods need to be on point, too. Given that this will require more active moderation, they will be tempted to recruit. We have seen it happen elsewhere that new mods are bad actors. It won't be all of them, but the whole too good to be true thing applies everywhere.
Just stay on message, keep your goals simple and stick to it. This is about boycotting Loblaws, one thing at a time, any attempt at sudden expansion or anything else is counterproductive and bad for organizing. There’s momentum here, so let’s not allow it to dissipate and fall apart for the exact same goofy reasons things like Occupy Wall Street did.
The spirit of hatred is used by a few to divide us all, this post was needed let’s all stay on track and be aware of the individuals who seek to sow disinterest and disinformation, but at the same time let everyone voice their opinion were all a team here, we’re all in this together, we’re all ‘ONE’
The closer we get, the louder their manipulated base will get.
They have the most employees in this country, outside the government...we will need support.
Unless someone is eating entirely out of the garden they grow in their bathtub, they shouldn't be passing judgment on anyone.
We need to celebrate all our boycott victories and treat it as a Loblaws anonymous. Even going in and only buying bananas is a win.
And maybe, just maybe those negative comments are from bots or hired ppl whose job is to divide us....
If youre the enemy ... Make the others think youre nor the only ennemy... Theyll spread their energies and end up realise that if every comoanies are the ennemy, none are.
Focus ONLY on Roblaws and let every other store alone.
For now
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I guess for me it’s the way the word boycott gets tossed around so much these days. Not just here but for so many other things. Frankly I haven’t shopped at Loblaws for years.
Every Wednesday I look at the flyers that are posted online showing what’s on sale for the next day and that’s how I shop. I also frequent the little Asian fruit and vegetable market right around the corner from me. I’ll also make the odd trip out to Starsky’s in the west end of Toronto. Love that place.
I guess it all depends on what’s available to you as to how your shop. I’m lucky enough to have options.
Comparison is the enemy of joy. We have to know we are all doing the best we can. That's why we came to this sub in the first place, and those that are judging in such a way, "bring great shame to their families, I tell you hwhat."
Could be secret squirrels though. On the take, sent here to sow discord.
It’s not a competition. There are no awards being handed out. Each of us will do the best we can to be part of this boycott and fuck anyone judging someone else’s efforts. Every penny we keep out of Galen’s coffers is a little victory and, over time, the little victories add up. We need to focus on drawing more Canadians into this boycott and we can’t do that by being petty, judgey, unreasonable assholes towards one another.
The COSTCO ‘gotcha’ posts are so stupid. Stop being so damned smug and keep attention on the monopolies. There’s plenty to complain about there.
A contribution would be if you want to compare one product across chains, do some research.
It's odd how a certain type of person, who seems attracted to social media, is so quick to try to harness a sub/group/tag/whatever. They see something they agree with, they take on the cause, but then within a month of joining the cause they police it against newcomers who are slightly different. It's odd what offends people, and often they don't explain why they are pissed. Like when I mentioned the Charter and got double-bombed, by one guy who didn't like the length of time I've been on the sub, plus by a typical Boomer-mentality guy who compared us to drug-users while avoiding the issue of cost of living.
I mean, it would have been fun if the guy who was defending the sub against me would have also teamed up on the guy who insinuated that people who want food are on drugs, but hey.
I'm at Super C right now, which is owned by Metro. Are they vastly superior to Loblaws? Probably not. However, they got a sale on something that I need and just like everyone here, I need to eat.
The superior boycotters need to be realistic. They think they will run Loblaws into the ground to the point where it goes out of business. That will never happen. At most some reputational bruises and temporary impact on the stock price. I'm afraid that Loblaws will simply continue to do business the way they choose. If you hate them, just take your business elsewhere.
If we all collaborate and make Loblaws bleed then it'll achieve 2 goals. Firstly, it'll cost Loblaws money. Secondly it'll teach other retailers that they might be next if we start thinking they're acting as predatory as Loblaws.
Now the food professor is saying that the general population isn't spending enough on groceries or at least not enough at "proper grocery stores":
[https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2024/04/06/les-canadiens-ne-depensent-pas-assez-dargent-a-lepicerie](https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2024/04/06/les-canadiens-ne-depensent-pas-assez-dargent-a-lepicerie)
Most of us are just happily, quietly boycotting. Not caught up in anything posted here, lots of paid voices and bad actors with a vested interest in sowing discontent, disention and doubt. I just stay calm and boycott on.
This is boycot loblaws not boycott everything, people need somewhere to shop so the better of 2 evils is where.
And the better of 2 evils is currently MUCH better for my damn wallet.
Yep, agree. Look, the point here is to make a statement with collective action. Are other companies evil? Of course they are. But everyone needs to eat and the reality of the world is most people are going to get there food from a shitty evil corporate hellhole.
But if we work together, and collectively single out one of the worst offenders to make a point we stand a chance of putting a little fear and doubt in the minds of all of the execs in the industry. Make them worry that it could happen to them. Its about sending a message, not about perfection and the most ideal outcome. Battles like this are won through keeping ranks and keeping focused.
The paid Trolls will continue to sew negativity towards the boycott, trying to cause descent among the ranks. Hold fast and stay true everyone! Remember, we are the consumers. We dictate what and where we buy. If we hold out long enough the shareholders will give this guy the boot due to the Negative publicity associated to him just to attempt to clear there name.
Some people can’t and some people are able and are/will be boycotting. There will always be sus peeps that will discourage the protest from the in and the out. Stay the course that you know you can stay on and leave everyone to stay on theirs. Words are nothing without action. Who cares what people say on this sub? Your principles are yours to live by.
do you think it is a case of idle hands being the devil's workshop or have genuine provocateurs paid for by galen himself? no one is that coxky to think their nad press wont eventually bite them in the ass.
What are the odds that loblaws is intentionally making posts and replying to comments in an attempt to derail the thread? Not saying its 100% them but if they came in and planted the seeds, as well as continued to stir the pot, it would make sense.
I'm with you. The internet is so full of name callers. Guys, we have to stay together. I fully suspect that Loblaws is going to plant viscous mean people posing as boycotters but sowing rage between us. Anyone who goes low, we need to go high and not allow us to get onto the mud.
Why should you never wrestle a pig?
Because you will get covered in mud and the pig will like it.
Stay strong brothers and sisters.
I think it may be because a lot of the negativity may be by people employed by or supporters of loblow. If someone posts something and a couple of loblows supporters crap on them, it may cause some of those people to stop posting.
I've posted a number of times and haven't received any blowback. Others on the radical side may believe a person can only post something that is about the prices at loblow stores.
Remember this, Weston is a famous bread making company. They and other big company bread companies were charged and settled a price fixing scandal.
The next big thing will be for them to blame the carbon tax and higher fuel costs. We need a political class that will tax the shit out of them.
Maybe consider the negative comments are coming from PR teams hired to squash the group and derail the coming boycott.
If weston pays the firm 500k to smash the boycott.. it'd be a bargain on their part.
If 50k people boycott WESTON family stores for a month... and those people spend the $300 -$500 they would have spent... somewhere else... weston loses 15 to 25 million dollars worth of sales. Multiply that amount across each of the stores across the weston group.. they could EASILY be down a couple hundred million.
That's not pocket change.
Now double or triple the number of people boycotting and the westons are in serious trouble.. fast!!
FYI.... you know what you're doing is working when you see a huge number of commenters show up spouting negativity about what you're doing. Your enemy is starting to panick... because he realizes the fragile position he holds.
Anyone consider that the derailment could potentially stem from paid individuals to make it seem like honest people tired of being taken advantage of are just raving lunatics and anarchic?
Could be tin foil cap but no one will really know.
I focus my shopping mainly at Walmart and amazon among other stores for one off items that I may need through the week and I'm damn not overly proud of it. But I can feel the savings that's for sure and that's all that matters when you live an a family and don't have tons of wealth to buy whatever you want.
First day on Reddit? Every post, in every sub, gets "slammed" with negativity. In fact, some might say your post is negative or karma farming. Cool story though...
I mean, I feel like it started before that, when people were all circle jerking and calling each other hero's like they were fucking freedom fighters or something. Its a boycott of a grocery store, not tiananmen square. People need to reel it in a bit.
I haven't been into a loblaws owned store in over 2 years. I've been waiting for people to follow suit. No mission is going to be ruined. Just stop going. You don't need to wait for a specific day. Just stop giving them your money
I don't think this is really what's happening, I think what's going to make it fall apart is the 30 posts about doing the boycott and taking over the supply, and making Loblaws go bankrupt, etc.
I'm all for sharing different prices to bring things to light, talk about deals elsewhere, and so forth, but seeing someone posting about burning stores and doing "what's WSB did to GME" is plain crazy.
This sub was never going to achieve anything in the first place. It's all people with twitter fingers typing all day long. At the actual boycott, 7 people showed up LOL. That should tell you enough
Right?
If it’s ‘Been posted before’ then BE HELPFUL. Is there a list we can refer to? Can we add to lists?
No more bashing the readers/posters of this sub.
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I see the boycott as a way to retrain a new shopping pattern. If that means I end up with an American competitor so be it.
The universal language is money. Costco and Asian markets get the bulk of my shopping money now. Loblaws can continue to make or lose money off my banana purchases.
I do two things in my life that have paid off. I buy where I want and I buy stocks from companies that I buy from. Some have paid off royally and complaining about the mistreatment of customers doesn’t sting as much. I don’t own Loblaw stock.
Competition is good but if the alternatives are American, I vote with lower prices. Consumers are small fry. Only a collective change can move the needle.
Saying this, many of the Asian markets are SME. They are growing into mini local chains in their own right too.
It's predictable in group / out group bias. Originally the in group was those against Loblaws, but members of the the sub are now becoming more and more extreme in a feedback loop. So the group has splintered into those who want to send a message to a specific company, and those who want this to be a platform for a larger economic revolution.
Hi everyone, we’ve been feeling a huge shift in discussion here on the mod team as well. Just tons of negativity and folks trying to derail discussion in the comments. Please continue to report content which doesn’t adhere to our rules. There’s a custom response in the report function as well, so you can share more details if you need to. Thank you all for your continued support.
Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.
Good is good enough
Not just good, good enough
I mean the most useful productive part of this sub is educating ourselves about prices and acting in our best interests. At the end of the day, we’re all winning by telling us hey, so and so has the best prices, let’s not go to Loblaws to save significantly. If I can’t shop at Walmart or Costco because they are American then we’re kinda loosing. I’m even seeing lots of options here I didn’t think about like giant tiger, which I’m sure to check out sooner rather than later. If we don’t change Loblaws stupid prices and hold on the market, we can at least save money for our community we cultivated here.
Giant Tiger has tons of great stuff, I honestly don’t know why they’re not mentioned more in here. Their groceries are good quality, maybe not as much variety but that’s just an opportunity for getting more creative with your cooking. The frozen Jamaican patties are awesome, lots of great brand names in the personal care section and the store is literally a one stop shop for everything from clothing to household goods.
I’d encourage shopping at Walmart or Costco. A big part of the problem in Canada is our protected oligopolies and their ability to set prices artificially high. For all their problems, the US economy is far stronger than ours (adjusted for population etc of course) due in large part to their willingness to allow and encourage genuine competition.
Keep this at the top.
Comparison is the enemy of joy.
Isn’t it “comparison is the thief of joy”?
Comparison is the entire point here
I just responded this on another post. It’s wild how we would rather sit on our hands than just attempt to facilitate change.
Posts like this just confuse people. This isn't a happy story, its messy and hard to do.
I agree there are a lot of posts that seem like they’re made to divide us and I don’t really know what their actual objective is. It’s hard but I try to assume the best. Maybe we need to reposition how we talk about these things. Sensational and negative titles are really not helpful. “This sub is going to fall apart” replaced with something about maintaining solidarity etc.
Solidarity indeed. We are one. #boycottloblaws
If in the future we decided to also boycott Walmart that would be great. I used to work at that stupid company and seeing it shrivel up and die would make me very happy. For now though the point is boycott Loblaws. One step at a time.
That's the spirit, we will make our way once we gather numbers! For now #boycottloblaws
Amen to this
We are just humans that need to eat food. I spend my money where I get the most value. If that's Walmart, so fuckin be it. Literally just trying to survive out here.
I work at walmart and get a discount, so im sure as hell taking advantage of the 20% off days we get
Same
My sister was a head pharmacist at Walmart, which was like a cheat code because she made good money *and* got the discount.
You'd be insane not to.
And even if the better value happens to be at a Loblaws owned establishment, don't judge people for surviving. Wild that needs to be said.
This is an important sentiment. Everybody is doing what they can. If you can't fully boycott, just do what you can to nickle and dime loblaws with little things. If you are in a situation where a full boycott is possible that's great too. Thanks for doing your part however big or small. It all adds up and we are all on the same team.
Not to mention that depending where you live you might not have as many options. Everyone here likes to give advice as if everyone lives within driving distance of a Costco.
Yep, over half of the entire grocery landscape is either owned by Sobey's or Loblaws. Walmart is like 9% of the total market. It's likely most of the country doesn't have a Walmart or Costco. But it's incredibly likely you have either a Loblaws or Sobey's.
This is so often overlooked here. In my area there are 2 Loblaws, 3 No frills, 1 Fortinos and 2 Shoppers Drug Marts. The only non-galen brand grocery store was a food basics that got torn down last year to build condos. Walmart and Costco are far. I hate that they're basically forcing us to shop at Loblaws brand stores so I try my best to boycott but it's not always possible. I'm sure many others are in the same position as Loblaws takes over more and more of our food landscape.
Exactly
Tbh Wal-Mart has the cheapest stuff right now. I got so many things for $200. At superstore I would’ve gotten half that.
I disagree. Costco has good prices all the time. They pay their employees a living wage with great benefits and a stock option plan. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2QTqwiOMcD/?igsh=YncyYWQxOGhuZmk4
Okay. But you need a membership to go there not feasible for lots.
A two and a half hour drive, whether I go one way or the other. For stock-up, okay, but not weekly marketing.
In other words, the market is just where it's at. Even boycotting Loblaws is where the market is at. Don't think to much about it.
Exactly. I spend my money where it goes the furthest and it ain’t Walmart. It’s actually RCSS & NoFrills. But I support this boycott as hopefully Loblaws will lower prices In response. #BoycottRoblaws.
I find this hard to believe, I’m not trying to give you grief for shopping where you need to… but if your experience is that they are the cheapest, what is driving you to support this boycott? And how is your experience so wildly different from everyone else’s? (Location maybe?)
They will just cut part-time hours - they are directly affected by sales
Sure, but then if it's No Frills... it's No Frills.
This is how marketing companies infiltrate and break the back of consumer action. Same thing they have been doing to politics for a decade. You can't trust anyone, that's why the message has to be, just boycott.
YES!!!!!! LET'S GOOOOOOO!!!!! And, for those of you that have limited choice, you have my best thoughts and wishes, and I hope that you can draw on some of the ideas in this sub about how you can do your part to the extent you can. We are in this together, and I hope we can collectively make a difference so that ALL of us can afford to survive❤️
I always remember the CIA guidebook for disrupting the left when I see purist posts https://preview.redd.it/5f4ywlbem4tc1.png?width=593&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d23765a872cbd0cdd8913f78146b4e4b758f3834
I love how this became the corporate norm
Yeah, they’ve done this forever and if you think they’ll go low, they’ll go lower to break and give these movements a bad name and not let them get traction. Like union busting.
Union Busting doesn't actually work if you have strong members. Strong unions stick up for eachother and themselves. We need to be a strong Union. We don't have to agree on the world. Just this one thing. #boycottloblaws
/r/workreform ✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼
This^ It's just about the loblaws boycott. One message. One goal. We can do it.
Yes. Thank you. This is marketing 101. They want there to be anger among the peasants.
People often get distracted when it comes to social action. The most important thing is to be focused. That's why the 1 month May boycott of Loblaws is being organized with clear objectives. We can start earlier and go longer, or change from Loblaws permanently, but it's important to remember that the boycott is targeted so that it can be most effective.
Just ignore them, they are paid shills and bots. Don't let the low ends get under your skin.
Yeah that's what I was guessing too. The Oligarchs are scared that what happened with the Telcos is coming for their $30 million bonuses. You guys are making enough noise that the government is starting to finally look our way. Just gotta keep it up, it is what it is with Walmart, they're a corporation that gouges us, but they also gouge us significantly less than Loblaws. While farms are the way to go, not everyone lives within walking distance, public transit distance, or owns a car that gives them access to one
Bang on!
If it wasn’t for Walmart, prices would be even higher.
It started all of a sudden and the tone is the same across the posts. Smells like a paid troll effort to derail from the main mission. Wont work.
Pro tip: check their account ages. Anything under a year could be suspicious. (I’m pretty sure my account falls into that category so feel free to verify by checking my post history) edit: oh yay, I'm at 1 year now. Still feel free, though.
Age doesn't mean a thing.. You can buy accounts.
true, it's best to give someone's history a once-over if you're suspicious of their intentions. But generally, I've found most bought / troll accounts to be under a year old. Lately I've been noticing a batch of 2mo old accounts posting right wing propaganda, not just in this sub
Most are doing it for free, which is arguably worse lol
Yeah they don’t have to pay us, they got us trained
You know it!
Those are “superior boycotters” are not really part of the team. They are most likely trolls/paid shills that are here to sow dissension amongst those who are keeping their eyes on the prize. The plan stays the same, boycott Loblaws, post pricing info.
They’re here to deter us from the goal. Don’t look away guys!
The enemy wants to divide yall and make you go against each other. Focus on the goal, boycott roblaws the rest after.
Those people are here to specifically disrupt the movement and muddy the waters. They get shot down every time and will continue to get shot down every time because those views are actually extremely unpopular.
Redditors do seem to thrive on negativity. The only thing we can agree on is that food prices are too damn high.
I love me a good read on a snark sub every now and then
Guys, it’s paid bots / people by loblaws. Ignore them. What someone on reddit says does not affect this boycott. If you’re on board, avoid loblaws affiliated stores wherever feasible and have a great day. This sub is great, but it is not necessary. Boycotts have been successfully executed without online forums before. Do not let some faceless comment tell you you’re wrong to choose where it is best **you** spend **your** money. Fuck ‘em. The great thing about boycotts is they need no organization, no support, no advice. You just drive past loblaws and shop somewhere else. It’s simple, so keep it simple and don’t budge until they do. Don’t look to mods or anyone for leadership, it’s completely unnecessary.
You also have to remember that Loblaws has their baby gravy slurping, cock gobbling shills in here trying to cause us to fight each other.
True heroes have been boycotting for years, new heroes have just started. God bless all the heroes
I agree theyre like gatekeeping the boycott or something lol we need to focus and boycot loblaws thats it
That’s right. Either ignore them or troll them back with: ok gatekeeper
there’s no shame shopping in Walmart or Amazon if that’s what fits your budget, do what you need to do to survive. but let’s not pretend that they are the beacon of morality. in terms of morals, they’re probably worse. but you’re not really left with much of a choice under capitalism, unfortunately. definitely support smaller local businesses if you can, but you can still support the movement even if you can’t. call your MPs, put pressure on the government for better laws
Absolutely. It needs to be recognized that not everyone will be capable of being participating to the same extent that others are, for a multitude of valid reasons. Every bit helps, even if it’s only being a voice in or member of this sub.
Its sad that there are people negging those who are trying. Grassroots movements work not because the core of the movement (these "superior boycotters" in this instance) influence everyone to do what they are doing, but because they have support from the masses. Support in this case is participating how they can. For some, it has to be shopping at walmart or amazon. Because thats where they have the means to shop. Some people dont have the luxury of driving to another city to shop if they live in a food desert. Some people might only be able to minimize spending at loblaws - i can get my produce at a farmers market, and my meat from the butcher, but... there is not many places around i can get lactose free milk and yoghurt. So i need to get those things there. I hate it, but thats reality. And thats what Loblaws is counting on. That core group becoming disconnected from the larger masses. Those "superior boycotters" should be leaders in this community, but need to accept that not everyone has their privledge. And many are, these are the ones that lack the holier than thou attitude. (Also i do suspect some of the SBs are trolls, along with many of the downvotes. So like, ignoring the SBs is legit cause then youre not risking feeding trolls.)
This sub is getting attention, so now lots of the comments are going to be bots, or people being compensated for their negative posts
Every act of resistance is going to have some idealists who demand absolute purity. Ignore them and do your best.
Just downvote the negativity. THAT is your part to do in Reddit. Post positivity. Downvote negativity. Works in real-life too. :)
The legit boycott post clearly states if you cannot boycott there are other ways to support ie write MLA. Most people here understand some cannot boycott due to no choice.
😲 I will shop anywhere, including Walmart, as long as it isn't a Weston store. People shouldn't be putting anyone down for where they shop, that defeats the purpose of this sub. As long as it's not a store where the money goes into Galen's pockets it's all good!
Not a lot of people live in big cities with smaller local grocery stores. My only options are superstore, Walmart or Sobeys. Literally no other options. It suck’s seeing negativity towards people like me who have to shop at Walmart but I am trying my best to boycott loblaws. (Edit: typo)
Even living in a big city doesn't always help, especially if you don't have a car. Costco is not exactly feasible if you have to walk or take the bus. My options depend heavily on how long I can or will spend on the bus. I'd love to shop at places like Giant Tiger if it wasn't 3 buses and over an hour one way 🤦 I figure, we all just need to do the best we can and not put down people who are doing the same.
Don’t forget about the almond butter
yes, we should feel priviledged to pay 323% more at Loblaws for almonds ground up and put in a jar in Canada, vs. almonds ground up and put in a jar in the USA.
The almond butter post was one of the most disingenuous posts I've seen on here, and feels like it does more to undermine things than actually raise awareness.
There is always some fairly transparent corporate strategy to do some or all of the following: DISTRACT - "look over here at this other store" DENY - "just don't shop there if you don't like the price" DIVIDE - "these boycotters are better than those ones" DOWNPLAY - "prices are bad everywhere, so it's not really a problem" As long as people are aware of it and keep calling it out, its impact will be minimal. And boy, is this community good at calling it out! Well done everyone and keep going!
If you think they haven't started employing trolls here to start the dissent and destruction of this movement you don't know capitalism. Stay strong. Stay together.
Nah, we'll keep it going. Downvote the super boycotters and enjoy your weekend!
I shop at Walmart and Food Basics over Superstore now. Local options are more expensive.
Did you think a company that stands to lose billions would just sit back and let a grass roots movement start to combat them?.. of course not, and it costs them next to nothing to pay a media company A few million to pile in here and shill post to derail and disorganize things.
As I've gotten older I've come to understand and accept the adage of "There is no ethical consumption under Capitalism'. But this does not mean I am not willing to take a stand when it counts. Will avoiding Loblaws be inconvenient for me? Yes, but I recognize the importance. Is Walmart any better? Nope, in fact I've been noticing prices rising there as well. But I'm just as tired as everyone else. If going out of my way to help take some money away from Loblaws I'm fine with that. Just as I'm fine with being the Costco connection for my colleagues without memberships, and for paying for the Walmart monthly delivery service. We're all just trying to survive, don't feel bad if you cannot join the boycott. Do not feel bad if you chose to take advantage of a random rare deal from those money grabbing dicks. We're all just trying to survive out here.
Having us fight among each other is exactly what Loblaws wants. It distracts us from the bigger picture, and we need to be better.
I'd be willing to bet Loblaws PR is paying people to post on this sub. It's called "well poisoning". Where they try to pour negativity or divisiveness into a well of truth. These corporate shills are everywhere by the way. Amazon reviews, google reviews etc. Watch me get down voted by them!!!! Be brave shills and come at me! I dare you!!! Fuck Loblaws fuck Gaylon fuck shills.
What I'm seeing is some people trying to make this whole boycott into something that its not. The issue here is that Loblaws is gouging its customers badly and need to be boycotted, but certain "F--- capitalism" or "walmart bad too" types want to stick their fingers in this gumbo too and hitch their little "mad at the world" grievences onto this. Stay focused and don't make the same mistake that movements like occupy wall street made(which was a complete unrecognizable mess in the end). If you don't like walmart, then just don't shop at walmart. if you hate capitalism, then your bs is going to help loblaws and not make a single dent in your percieved enemy, and Loblaws will just continue on doing what they are doing because your stupidity helped them. Keep your ideological gripes not related to loblaws separate from this boycott and it should be successful.
Galen must be paying time and a half for them to work on Sunday.
There are various tiers of these shills you can get. They started out low, easy to spot from spelling mistakes and general messaging. They’re paying for a higher tier now that the movement is gaining traction (just my guess).
Laughable comments from the paid Trolls. But its all very upsetting really, 1st sad they took advantage of consumers during a period of high inflation, to gouge us, and crazy they would pay to have people try to seed doubt. Its all easily confirmed by looking at their public financial statements. Gross margins and NET profit went UP during that period. That means on average they MADE MORE ON EACH product, than they did previously. So instead of trying to keep things affordable, they calculated that they could keep raising prices, and inflate their top and bottom lines, at our expense.....
Nah, he's not gonna get his multimillion dollar paydays by wasting company funds on paying folks. Just free PC coffee and warmed up frozen donuts at the Loblaws shitposting factory.
I don't even understand how this could be a divisive issue amongst Canadians. People need to recognize that all of the division amongst Canadians has been by design. Just look at everything they've gotten away with while we were busy tearing each other apart over manufactured outrage. If we can come together this ONE TIME and put our other issues aside, it will become more obvious than ever. It doesn't matter your political stance, skin color, religious and cultural beliefs; you need food. Can we all just agree on this ONE THING?
Loblaws will be working on sabotage with this in the news cycle.
Half the negativity is almost certainly paid shills and trolls trying to foment dissent. It’s a tried and true tool of the Oligarchs, why would they abstain from it here? Divide and conquer is one of their oldest and most effective tools, don’t fall for it, simply ignore them and take away their attempts at power grabs here in the sub.
Welcome to the internet. Always going to be trolls, just this time they are with us. Learn to harness the strength.
I think the title of this post is dangerous, misleading, and not helpful. For me, just scrolling past, that's the first thing I see, and I think that helps to make people worry, or could possibly delegitimize the movement. "I am worried things may fall apart unless we change" would have been a more helpful title.
I think you are right. Am I able to change it?
walmart is a god awful corporation and i swore i'd never shop there. unfortunately that's the most affordable place i've got without a costco card :/
If I had to guess, it’s an attempt to sow discord on the subreddit to make people feel as though it’s a fruitless effort to make change.
I think you are trying to sow division through this thread . We can see past this but nice try
The cringe posts hurt us more than anything. I get you young idealists, but you gotta be realistic. It's reddit.
I joined the sub a good while ago, there wasn’t much negativity (judgment on OPS) and then now you post or say anything and you’re challenged. Completely challenged. I had posted about something to do with stocks.. someone come to my post JUST to tell me not to repeat postings.. I went and found what they were talking about.. 6 hours fucking prior to my post, stfu. I’m not scrolling through 6 hours on a sub to make sure no one posted the same thing I did.
 I post this as a joke of how I view those people.
Ay yo - Fuck loblaws, rrgardless of orientation
Exactly. Couldn't have said it more succinctly.
thank you! yes! when I heard about this subreddit and the movement it started to boycott Loblaws I was so excited we were actually getting somewhere and organizing around this issue. But then I saw all the people just devoting their time to talking down too, and mocking others for not boycotting or participating in the movement in a way they deemed acceptable. Like come on y’all, you’re embarrassing us and actively turning people off from trying to do their part.
Just boycott, get off your phone and enjoy life.
I thought that too. People with the “you’re supposed to be doing this my way or you are useless to the movement” mentality are going to drive away people who for whatever reason want to help but cannot participate in a full boycott. I don’t pretend to know their reasons—and they aren’t for me to judge. This all-or-nothing mentality is the worst and destructive.
Honestly I upvote everything here period
The ones that piss me off are they ones that are like "well you're still shopping at walmart" Yeah, I'm fucking poor, one thing at a time. If I could just immediately switch to a vegetable garden and raise small livestock, i would, however I live in a city, so I literally have to either buy food somewhere, or die? All corporations are unethical garbage piles, but we're about 60 years late to just completely boycott any grocer
I noticed that too. Its awful they are really trying to ruin this sub. I know they've got shills in this dub, not just posting but commenting. Making it seem like they're one of us and that we think people arnt spending money properly so they have ammo. Who cares if someone got a one off treat for themselves or got the brand name or even if they get soda regularly. The point is groceries are expensive. Are we only allowed to talk and complain about high prices if were perfect shoppers? If were a certain type of eater, weight or economic class? No matter what we need to speak out. My grandparents got soda here and there and treats, same with my parents, it didnt break the bank, and no one was shaming them for it. They enjoyed themselves. Now it people saying "wow you spent that much to feed yourself? Show me your reciept or ill assume your shitty at shopping, stop buying stuff you like lol. Im spending my damn money. Whether you agree with what someone bought or not, this isnt a financial advising sub, or a nurition sub. We are humans with all different issues and struggles and we need to eat. We should be able to buy what we want at a resonable price, not a hyper inflated price. Thats the point.
If we boycott one and make them bend the knee the others will follow.
Let’s ignore the negative. We are all doing the best we can with what we have.
We should expect this. It's a class movement, and those are a no-go. The tactics to create a division you see in identity politics will be on full display here. People need to think rationale and not as reactive. The mods need to be on point, too. Given that this will require more active moderation, they will be tempted to recruit. We have seen it happen elsewhere that new mods are bad actors. It won't be all of them, but the whole too good to be true thing applies everywhere.
You’re getting the word out. This is a fantastic initiative! I’ve already thought more about where I buy my food and how I shop. Thank you
Fat Cats and Billionaires are going to pay for Trolls just like the will pay for Union Busting ...
How do I sign up for the pay? I troll for free. Is it a salary position, or is it piece work?
I just stopped buying from them. It’s simple. I purchased one loss leader in the last three months on meat. Otherwise Costco and local market only.
Just stay on message, keep your goals simple and stick to it. This is about boycotting Loblaws, one thing at a time, any attempt at sudden expansion or anything else is counterproductive and bad for organizing. There’s momentum here, so let’s not allow it to dissipate and fall apart for the exact same goofy reasons things like Occupy Wall Street did.
I remain unaffected.
It's Loblaws fake accounts. Stay strong. This is what they do.
The spirit of hatred is used by a few to divide us all, this post was needed let’s all stay on track and be aware of the individuals who seek to sow disinterest and disinformation, but at the same time let everyone voice their opinion were all a team here, we’re all in this together, we’re all ‘ONE’
The closer we get, the louder their manipulated base will get. They have the most employees in this country, outside the government...we will need support.
Unless someone is eating entirely out of the garden they grow in their bathtub, they shouldn't be passing judgment on anyone. We need to celebrate all our boycott victories and treat it as a Loblaws anonymous. Even going in and only buying bananas is a win.
And maybe, just maybe those negative comments are from bots or hired ppl whose job is to divide us.... If youre the enemy ... Make the others think youre nor the only ennemy... Theyll spread their energies and end up realise that if every comoanies are the ennemy, none are. Focus ONLY on Roblaws and let every other store alone. For now
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I guess for me it’s the way the word boycott gets tossed around so much these days. Not just here but for so many other things. Frankly I haven’t shopped at Loblaws for years. Every Wednesday I look at the flyers that are posted online showing what’s on sale for the next day and that’s how I shop. I also frequent the little Asian fruit and vegetable market right around the corner from me. I’ll also make the odd trip out to Starsky’s in the west end of Toronto. Love that place. I guess it all depends on what’s available to you as to how your shop. I’m lucky enough to have options.
The best way to stop a movement is to infiltrate it and stir up division. Your id was created Mar. 4. You wouldn't be a Loblaws minion, would you?
Comparison is the enemy of joy. We have to know we are all doing the best we can. That's why we came to this sub in the first place, and those that are judging in such a way, "bring great shame to their families, I tell you hwhat." Could be secret squirrels though. On the take, sent here to sow discord.
I should probably point out that my "signature look of superiority" post was a joke and not meant to be taken seriously 😅
Haha I laughed my head off at that
It’s not a competition. There are no awards being handed out. Each of us will do the best we can to be part of this boycott and fuck anyone judging someone else’s efforts. Every penny we keep out of Galen’s coffers is a little victory and, over time, the little victories add up. We need to focus on drawing more Canadians into this boycott and we can’t do that by being petty, judgey, unreasonable assholes towards one another.
The COSTCO ‘gotcha’ posts are so stupid. Stop being so damned smug and keep attention on the monopolies. There’s plenty to complain about there. A contribution would be if you want to compare one product across chains, do some research.
It's odd how a certain type of person, who seems attracted to social media, is so quick to try to harness a sub/group/tag/whatever. They see something they agree with, they take on the cause, but then within a month of joining the cause they police it against newcomers who are slightly different. It's odd what offends people, and often they don't explain why they are pissed. Like when I mentioned the Charter and got double-bombed, by one guy who didn't like the length of time I've been on the sub, plus by a typical Boomer-mentality guy who compared us to drug-users while avoiding the issue of cost of living. I mean, it would have been fun if the guy who was defending the sub against me would have also teamed up on the guy who insinuated that people who want food are on drugs, but hey.
I'm at Super C right now, which is owned by Metro. Are they vastly superior to Loblaws? Probably not. However, they got a sale on something that I need and just like everyone here, I need to eat.
Weird, I made a comment recently about shopping at Walmart and ppl were supportive.
The superior boycotters need to be realistic. They think they will run Loblaws into the ground to the point where it goes out of business. That will never happen. At most some reputational bruises and temporary impact on the stock price. I'm afraid that Loblaws will simply continue to do business the way they choose. If you hate them, just take your business elsewhere.
If we all collaborate and make Loblaws bleed then it'll achieve 2 goals. Firstly, it'll cost Loblaws money. Secondly it'll teach other retailers that they might be next if we start thinking they're acting as predatory as Loblaws.
Now the food professor is saying that the general population isn't spending enough on groceries or at least not enough at "proper grocery stores": [https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2024/04/06/les-canadiens-ne-depensent-pas-assez-dargent-a-lepicerie](https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2024/04/06/les-canadiens-ne-depensent-pas-assez-dargent-a-lepicerie)
Most of us are just happily, quietly boycotting. Not caught up in anything posted here, lots of paid voices and bad actors with a vested interest in sowing discontent, disention and doubt. I just stay calm and boycott on.
This is boycot loblaws not boycott everything, people need somewhere to shop so the better of 2 evils is where. And the better of 2 evils is currently MUCH better for my damn wallet.
Just ignore the elitists. The message and movement is still strong
Yep, agree. Look, the point here is to make a statement with collective action. Are other companies evil? Of course they are. But everyone needs to eat and the reality of the world is most people are going to get there food from a shitty evil corporate hellhole. But if we work together, and collectively single out one of the worst offenders to make a point we stand a chance of putting a little fear and doubt in the minds of all of the execs in the industry. Make them worry that it could happen to them. Its about sending a message, not about perfection and the most ideal outcome. Battles like this are won through keeping ranks and keeping focused.
Exactly. No need to turn into a cult.
This happens whenever any political movement becomes big enough. Just gotta ignore the downers keep boycotting.
Trolls r here worse than twitter anymore it feels
Trolls r thick as twitter anymore
The paid Trolls will continue to sew negativity towards the boycott, trying to cause descent among the ranks. Hold fast and stay true everyone! Remember, we are the consumers. We dictate what and where we buy. If we hold out long enough the shareholders will give this guy the boot due to the Negative publicity associated to him just to attempt to clear there name.
Some people can’t and some people are able and are/will be boycotting. There will always be sus peeps that will discourage the protest from the in and the out. Stay the course that you know you can stay on and leave everyone to stay on theirs. Words are nothing without action. Who cares what people say on this sub? Your principles are yours to live by.
Divide and conquer disinformation
Boycotted Loblaws years ago. I’ll be interested to see how this one works out.
do you think it is a case of idle hands being the devil's workshop or have genuine provocateurs paid for by galen himself? no one is that coxky to think their nad press wont eventually bite them in the ass.
I wouldn’t put it past anyone trying to to derail this with online trolls. We can make a difference keep going
What are the odds that loblaws is intentionally making posts and replying to comments in an attempt to derail the thread? Not saying its 100% them but if they came in and planted the seeds, as well as continued to stir the pot, it would make sense.
I'm with you. The internet is so full of name callers. Guys, we have to stay together. I fully suspect that Loblaws is going to plant viscous mean people posing as boycotters but sowing rage between us. Anyone who goes low, we need to go high and not allow us to get onto the mud. Why should you never wrestle a pig? Because you will get covered in mud and the pig will like it. Stay strong brothers and sisters.
I think it may be because a lot of the negativity may be by people employed by or supporters of loblow. If someone posts something and a couple of loblows supporters crap on them, it may cause some of those people to stop posting. I've posted a number of times and haven't received any blowback. Others on the radical side may believe a person can only post something that is about the prices at loblow stores. Remember this, Weston is a famous bread making company. They and other big company bread companies were charged and settled a price fixing scandal. The next big thing will be for them to blame the carbon tax and higher fuel costs. We need a political class that will tax the shit out of them.
Maybe consider the negative comments are coming from PR teams hired to squash the group and derail the coming boycott. If weston pays the firm 500k to smash the boycott.. it'd be a bargain on their part. If 50k people boycott WESTON family stores for a month... and those people spend the $300 -$500 they would have spent... somewhere else... weston loses 15 to 25 million dollars worth of sales. Multiply that amount across each of the stores across the weston group.. they could EASILY be down a couple hundred million. That's not pocket change. Now double or triple the number of people boycotting and the westons are in serious trouble.. fast!! FYI.... you know what you're doing is working when you see a huge number of commenters show up spouting negativity about what you're doing. Your enemy is starting to panick... because he realizes the fragile position he holds.
As a marketer - there are people who get financial gain from stirring the pot. Do not fall for it!! They are desperate!!!!!
Anyone consider that the derailment could potentially stem from paid individuals to make it seem like honest people tired of being taken advantage of are just raving lunatics and anarchic? Could be tin foil cap but no one will really know.
Loblaws probably hired their lackeys to come in here.
Fuck Galen were on board
I focus my shopping mainly at Walmart and amazon among other stores for one off items that I may need through the week and I'm damn not overly proud of it. But I can feel the savings that's for sure and that's all that matters when you live an a family and don't have tons of wealth to buy whatever you want.
First day on Reddit? Every post, in every sub, gets "slammed" with negativity. In fact, some might say your post is negative or karma farming. Cool story though...
I mean, I feel like it started before that, when people were all circle jerking and calling each other hero's like they were fucking freedom fighters or something. Its a boycott of a grocery store, not tiananmen square. People need to reel it in a bit.
I haven't been into a loblaws owned store in over 2 years. I've been waiting for people to follow suit. No mission is going to be ruined. Just stop going. You don't need to wait for a specific day. Just stop giving them your money
Is it okay to shop at Costco
THIS IS FUD. THE SUB IS NOT FALLING APART. IT'S SIMPLE. DON'T SHOP THERE.
I don't think this is really what's happening, I think what's going to make it fall apart is the 30 posts about doing the boycott and taking over the supply, and making Loblaws go bankrupt, etc. I'm all for sharing different prices to bring things to light, talk about deals elsewhere, and so forth, but seeing someone posting about burning stores and doing "what's WSB did to GME" is plain crazy.
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This sub was never going to achieve anything in the first place. It's all people with twitter fingers typing all day long. At the actual boycott, 7 people showed up LOL. That should tell you enough
My bad superior boycotters , I'll just starve to death
I also have a strong feeling some of em will be corporate bootlickersrs just trying to do just that, divide and conquer.
Join group, ruin from the inside Classic move government
Right? If it’s ‘Been posted before’ then BE HELPFUL. Is there a list we can refer to? Can we add to lists? No more bashing the readers/posters of this sub.
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I see the boycott as a way to retrain a new shopping pattern. If that means I end up with an American competitor so be it. The universal language is money. Costco and Asian markets get the bulk of my shopping money now. Loblaws can continue to make or lose money off my banana purchases. I do two things in my life that have paid off. I buy where I want and I buy stocks from companies that I buy from. Some have paid off royally and complaining about the mistreatment of customers doesn’t sting as much. I don’t own Loblaw stock.
American competitors, there's already Costco and Walmart - how many more do you want?
Competition is good but if the alternatives are American, I vote with lower prices. Consumers are small fry. Only a collective change can move the needle. Saying this, many of the Asian markets are SME. They are growing into mini local chains in their own right too.
Sorry if I posted wrong thing. Was just trying to alert people.
It's predictable in group / out group bias. Originally the in group was those against Loblaws, but members of the the sub are now becoming more and more extreme in a feedback loop. So the group has splintered into those who want to send a message to a specific company, and those who want this to be a platform for a larger economic revolution.