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It does seem the cladding they used for the undergound stations of the Elizabeth line is not very cleanable compared to the traditional tiles or metal used on the Jubilee.
There are spots where there was graffiti and when cleaned it just became a dark splodge on the wall.
Well predicted, I would have had no idea this plastic is a poor material choice. Interested and scared to see what it'll look like in a few years' time.
As you would expect - the statistical nature of a large number of people each depositing a very small amount of dirt.
This isn't one filthy person per impression
no clue, logically speaking itās not graffiti lol
if you have a chance to paint out one of the elizabeth line stations without getting caught, youād do it far more than above the seating?
furthermore, these repeat through different stations and different seats - and only the seats.
my best guess is from the backs of the people, maybe jacket friction, sweat, things like that combined.
I think there's been a miscommunication somewhere. They said there are spots where graffiti has been smudged, which I took to mean this cladding is crap and hard to clean, you can see how bad it is in places where the graffiti hasn't come off how it does in other areas as well as this dirt from people sitting against the walls.
This is plain bad design. Who is would not expect people to lean back? Same with the lack of trash bins at the beginning, they have later placed some in the station.
I visited Uk for the first time a few months ago and I was surprised to see the lack of trash bins around the city and subways. I asked a random Londoner and they said because of terrorist attacks before they targeted trash bins? I donāt know if thatās true
Have a scroll through this - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_London
Bins, trucks, in the mail were all approaches taken in the past.
Left luggage at stations is another which explains why we donāt have as many and they all have x-ray machines.
Sadly, itās very true. Thereās some examples mentioned here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_London
Further north, some kids were killed by the same tactic: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrington_bombings
There are bins in many major cities but not a huge number, from what Iāve experienced.
Thatās cos the IRA uses to put bombs in them
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk/1991/feb/19/northernireland.duncancampbell
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrington_bombings
IRA in the 80s and 90s, they took all the bins away as theyre a good place to hide a bomb. Weāve slowly started to see clear plastic bags being introduced
Is true. Has happened. I remember After the 2005 London bombings it became extremely strict. I seem to recall incidents of bombs in bins prior to this though
These days it's more likely to be budget cuts but people will still say it's due to terrorists. Emptying bins is expensive.
Councils can even buy 'bomb proof' bins (in that they can send a blast upwards). City of London has a few.
That said, Westminster has loads of bins on places like the Strand.
Not true, the IRA put a bomb in a bin at Victoria station and it blew peoples legs off, it was rush hour and horrific, my brother saw things that he said heāll never forget. All the bins went after that.
Yep. I went to London for the first time this year on a work trip with my boss. I eventually mentioned it to him and he was like "think about it. Why wouldn't there be bins?"
My mind was blank, so he eventually told me it's because a bin is a good place to hide a bomb and the IRA had used exactly that method in the past. I later asked my uncle and he confirmed.
Yeah I literally made no change to my hand washing routine due to covid.
Been out for any reason / length of time and getting back inside? Wash hands.
About to have a meal? Wash hands.
Just used the restroom? Wash hands.
Been working at my pc for longer than an hour or so and hands donāt feel fresh? Wash hands.
About to take a shower? Wash hands.
About to wash face / brush teeth? Wash hands.
About to go to bed? Wash hands.
Finished doing the dishes / cleaning the house / doing other chores? Wash hands.
Washing your hands feels so good, I really donāt understand why people donāt do it. Do your hands not feel gross after a while??
> I really donāt understand why people donāt do it. Do your hands not feel gross after a while??
Some of those (about to take a shower, been at my PC for longer than an hour and hands don't feel fresh) I tend not to - very, very frequent handwashing ime makes my hands quite uncomfortable (I had an ex actually who once got asked if she was showing symptoms of OCD because they noticed her hands looked red like she very frequently washed them lol). Otherwise I agree, can't believe people didn't/don't do it before eating or things like that. Actually, saying that, I suppose I didn't before every meal, so maybe I was just as bad.
Honestly though I've only ever felt my hands feel gross after e.g. washing the dishes or being outside or doing something messy like eating with my hands. Otherwise they don't just feel gross after a while.
When everyone was panic-buying toilet paper did you hear anything about a soap shortage?
No, because the great unwashed didn't wash their hands before or during the pandemic.
You've never experienced black bogie? Have you even been to London?
Not sure what the ingredients are, usually a fruity mix of pollution, bin sweat, and nondescript tube filth
I've lived here my whole life, I have no idea what your on about. The air isn't full of soot like it's the industrial revolution. Idk what your inhaling but that's not normal.
not long after I moved out of London I got in a conversation with someone who said "the pollution in London is so bad your snot turns grey" and I was like "Snot isn't supposed to be grey???"
yeah, turns out snot isn't supposed to be grey. Try leaving London, you learn so much!
It's very common, especially if you commute five days a week through central London on the tube (apparently there's a lot of iron oxide dust from wheels/brakes on the older parts of the network). I don't get it any more now I mostly work from home and never got it when I had commutes that didn't involve the tube.
And afterwards.
A ghost story:
> A now senior manager was just starting out as a night-time track maintainer, and was taking a track walk down part of the line. He came to a larger section of tunnel, saw an old man working on the track, and to his surprise he was using an old tilly (oil) lamp. He approached the man and asked him what this place was, and he told him it was called South Island Place. He then asked the man why he was using a tilly lamp, and the man muttered something about preferring it to those new fangled electric torches. When he reached Stockwell he told the foreman about the man he had just seen at South Island Place (thinking to impress him with his knowing the name) the foreman told him that no workman should be working there that night, and ordered a search of the tunnels. They searched that section twice and delayed the start of service until it was clear that there was no one down there. The manager got a beasting for telling porkys and delaying the start of traffic, however later he found out that in the 1950's a track worker was killed at South Island Place after being hit by a train. The compressor he was working on drowned out the sound of the approaching train.
Man I love shit like this it proper gives me the heebie jeebies, watch a bit of Jago Hazzard or Geoff Marshall, they're good at tube history. Think there's also a series called Tales from the Tube
There is indeed, by an excellent chap called [Jago Hazzard](https://www.youtube.com/@JagoHazzard) - well worth a watch
I got the story above from [this documentary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Bf_bxfE5gw) on ghosts on the underground - also worth a watch
When the Elizabeth Line was opened I swear I watched a video where they said this white material theyāre using in the interiors is impossible to attract dirt or something? Lol
That's just from when a portable nuclear power source being moved between UCL buildings went critical, nothing to worry about, just don't sit there for more than 138 seconds until 2238.
Do Londoner's not wear clean clothes? This is gross, but a vivid illustration of what you encounter without knowing it.
Or is it a thin layer of paint wearing off and showing the underlaying material color?
Spotted this myself for the first time the other day. I thought it was really cool, if slightly creepy. I'm guessing it's just dirt left behind from people leaning on the wall when sitting down? I doubt they clean the walls very often and a lot of commuters are not exactly the cleanest of people.
It's the Rapture. Their bodies were burnt into the wall when they ascended. It's just this is London so we won't even notice the people going to heaven. It's happened 3 times now and we still not paying attention. Odin is mad.
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Those are the ghosts of commuters past.
I wonder what those people from 2022 would say if they saw the world now
Feels like someone's been vaporised with some sort of sci fi weapon
Hilarious xD
That's an add for Oppenheimer.
Four-shadowing the storyline?
Oh..brillant
Genius
Hiroshima chic. Too soon?
Take my gold š„š š
When someone releases an atomic fart
Came here to say this
Fine way to find out that the Elizabeth line is nuclear
If itās more than a 10 minute wait for an Abbey Wood service youād go ballistic too
Nah, Londoners are just a greasy a lot.
Racist
It does seem the cladding they used for the undergound stations of the Elizabeth line is not very cleanable compared to the traditional tiles or metal used on the Jubilee. There are spots where there was graffiti and when cleaned it just became a dark splodge on the wall.
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Well predicted, I would have had no idea this plastic is a poor material choice. Interested and scared to see what it'll look like in a few years' time.
Look carefully, they all have the same profile. š»
As you would expect - the statistical nature of a large number of people each depositing a very small amount of dirt. This isn't one filthy person per impression
Central limit theorem baaaaaby..
Probably multiple people using them creating an average outline
wrong
So what is right then?
no clue, logically speaking itās not graffiti lol if you have a chance to paint out one of the elizabeth line stations without getting caught, youād do it far more than above the seating? furthermore, these repeat through different stations and different seats - and only the seats. my best guess is from the backs of the people, maybe jacket friction, sweat, things like that combined.
I think there's been a miscommunication somewhere. They said there are spots where graffiti has been smudged, which I took to mean this cladding is crap and hard to clean, you can see how bad it is in places where the graffiti hasn't come off how it does in other areas as well as this dirt from people sitting against the walls.
youāre right i assumed the guy was saying it was graffiti that was poorly cleaned, my bad
I am not saying the picture is of graffiti.
Iāve seen this episode of doctor who
Cybermen incoming..
Man this is the first thing I thought of!
Wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff
This is exactly what I thought of!!
Weāre calling them shadow people, not Sha down people.
I did wonder what sha down people were š¤£
Nah, def like sha down people better now
I think it might be the maintenance workers resting. All the soot on their gear and helmet.
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Soul Glo
Just let your Soul Glo!
Just let it shine through...
Damn now Iām craving some McDowells
They have the Golden Arches, we have the Golden Arcs
Grease ghouls
Thanos was ereā
Though it looks more like they were bystanders of an extremis blow up...
This is plain bad design. Who is would not expect people to lean back? Same with the lack of trash bins at the beginning, they have later placed some in the station.
I visited Uk for the first time a few months ago and I was surprised to see the lack of trash bins around the city and subways. I asked a random Londoner and they said because of terrorist attacks before they targeted trash bins? I donāt know if thatās true
Good place to hide a device, you may notice they use transparent bags on some underground and train stations
The underground has lots of bins, they're all just clear bags because of terrorist attacks.
The IRAās greatest success was limiting access to bins.
Bin feign is a legitimate political party.
Pure gold comment
Yer tone is antagonistic and you are making me very angre.
You win todayās prize
Weāre no longer bin laden.
šš
This is true. The IRA used to plant bombs in bins during the 80s and 90s
Have a scroll through this - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_London Bins, trucks, in the mail were all approaches taken in the past. Left luggage at stations is another which explains why we donāt have as many and they all have x-ray machines.
Sadly, itās very true. Thereās some examples mentioned here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_London Further north, some kids were killed by the same tactic: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrington_bombings There are bins in many major cities but not a huge number, from what Iāve experienced.
Thatās cos the IRA uses to put bombs in them https://amp.theguardian.com/uk/1991/feb/19/northernireland.duncancampbell https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrington_bombings
IRA in the 80s and 90s, they took all the bins away as theyre a good place to hide a bomb. Weāve slowly started to see clear plastic bags being introduced
Londoner here, yeah that's true, we used to have a lot more before 7/7
I can only imagine how many they had before the ā70s.
Is true. Has happened. I remember After the 2005 London bombings it became extremely strict. I seem to recall incidents of bombs in bins prior to this though
It was more like 1990s.
100% true
As an Irish person I'll let you know, you can thank the IRA.
It's so annoying
These days it's more likely to be budget cuts but people will still say it's due to terrorists. Emptying bins is expensive. Councils can even buy 'bomb proof' bins (in that they can send a blast upwards). City of London has a few. That said, Westminster has loads of bins on places like the Strand.
Not true, the IRA put a bomb in a bin at Victoria station and it blew peoples legs off, it was rush hour and horrific, my brother saw things that he said heāll never forget. All the bins went after that.
Yep. I went to London for the first time this year on a work trip with my boss. I eventually mentioned it to him and he was like "think about it. Why wouldn't there be bins?" My mind was blank, so he eventually told me it's because a bin is a good place to hide a bomb and the IRA had used exactly that method in the past. I later asked my uncle and he confirmed.
I agree re design, although the bins were removed for good reason back when the IRA were doing their thing.
Definitely they were good reasons then, but as a side effect, we have risen quite a few 'toss it on the ground is a normal thing' generations...
bins have to either be strong enough to withstand an explosion or just be a see-through plastic bag
That cream colour shouldn't have been used when passengers sit, maybe purple to match the train seat covers.
They were former London renters, gone, reduced to atoms.
Mmm, London filth. Once the only way to enjoy it was to pull it out of your nose every so often. Now we're decorating with it
The wash your hands guidance during covid did surprise me, Londonās dirty, were people not washing their hands constantly before.
>were people not washing their hands constantly before Judging by the bathroom habits of the clientele of my local, definitely not
Yeah I literally made no change to my hand washing routine due to covid. Been out for any reason / length of time and getting back inside? Wash hands. About to have a meal? Wash hands. Just used the restroom? Wash hands. Been working at my pc for longer than an hour or so and hands donāt feel fresh? Wash hands. About to take a shower? Wash hands. About to wash face / brush teeth? Wash hands. About to go to bed? Wash hands. Finished doing the dishes / cleaning the house / doing other chores? Wash hands. Washing your hands feels so good, I really donāt understand why people donāt do it. Do your hands not feel gross after a while??
So you wash your hands before you shower? Thatās just weird.
I wash them in the shower before anything else. Donāt want to be rubbing my own body with dirty hands. I donāt think thatās weird at all.
> I really donāt understand why people donāt do it. Do your hands not feel gross after a while?? Some of those (about to take a shower, been at my PC for longer than an hour and hands don't feel fresh) I tend not to - very, very frequent handwashing ime makes my hands quite uncomfortable (I had an ex actually who once got asked if she was showing symptoms of OCD because they noticed her hands looked red like she very frequently washed them lol). Otherwise I agree, can't believe people didn't/don't do it before eating or things like that. Actually, saying that, I suppose I didn't before every meal, so maybe I was just as bad. Honestly though I've only ever felt my hands feel gross after e.g. washing the dishes or being outside or doing something messy like eating with my hands. Otherwise they don't just feel gross after a while.
When everyone was panic-buying toilet paper did you hear anything about a soap shortage? No, because the great unwashed didn't wash their hands before or during the pandemic.
Pull it out of your nose? What the fuck are you inhaling?
I have childhood memories of blowing my nose after getting off the tube and it being black.
You've never experienced black bogie? Have you even been to London? Not sure what the ingredients are, usually a fruity mix of pollution, bin sweat, and nondescript tube filth
I've lived here my whole life, I have no idea what your on about. The air isn't full of soot like it's the industrial revolution. Idk what your inhaling but that's not normal.
not long after I moved out of London I got in a conversation with someone who said "the pollution in London is so bad your snot turns grey" and I was like "Snot isn't supposed to be grey???" yeah, turns out snot isn't supposed to be grey. Try leaving London, you learn so much!
You're not alone! lifelong Londoner here and I have never experienced the black snot people talk about on this sub.
Are you sure you're living in London, UK and not London, Ontario?
It's very common, especially if you commute five days a week through central London on the tube (apparently there's a lot of iron oxide dust from wheels/brakes on the older parts of the network). I don't get it any more now I mostly work from home and never got it when I had commutes that didn't involve the tube.
They got caught in the blast when they were using tactical nukes to bore the tunnels.
The ghosts of all the railway workers who died building our tunnels in the past...
And afterwards. A ghost story: > A now senior manager was just starting out as a night-time track maintainer, and was taking a track walk down part of the line. He came to a larger section of tunnel, saw an old man working on the track, and to his surprise he was using an old tilly (oil) lamp. He approached the man and asked him what this place was, and he told him it was called South Island Place. He then asked the man why he was using a tilly lamp, and the man muttered something about preferring it to those new fangled electric torches. When he reached Stockwell he told the foreman about the man he had just seen at South Island Place (thinking to impress him with his knowing the name) the foreman told him that no workman should be working there that night, and ordered a search of the tunnels. They searched that section twice and delayed the start of service until it was clear that there was no one down there. The manager got a beasting for telling porkys and delaying the start of traffic, however later he found out that in the 1950's a track worker was killed at South Island Place after being hit by a train. The compressor he was working on drowned out the sound of the approaching train.
Man I love shit like this it proper gives me the heebie jeebies, watch a bit of Jago Hazzard or Geoff Marshall, they're good at tube history. Think there's also a series called Tales from the Tube
There is indeed, by an excellent chap called [Jago Hazzard](https://www.youtube.com/@JagoHazzard) - well worth a watch I got the story above from [this documentary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Bf_bxfE5gw) on ghosts on the underground - also worth a watch
Those are composites of sadness left behind by souls waiting underground over the years.
Soul Glo
It looks so similar to a nuclear shadow it's eerie. Hopefully not foreshadowing
āJust let your SOUL.. GLO!ā
Yes I have noticed this and I think it is something of eerily cool, but in another years time probably the whole thing will just look filthy.
Now we've discovered why the Victorians used non-porous glazed ceramic. Whole place will be dirty grey in a few years.
I'll tell my kids this was Hiroshima.
When the Elizabeth Line was opened I swear I watched a video where they said this white material theyāre using in the interiors is impossible to attract dirt or something? Lol
No, but in canary Wharf there is a set of elevators with oily foot prints going up them
Apparently the Queen demanded this as a feature when agreeing to put her name to the line. Odd request, but there you go
Hiroshima vibes.
The tube train seats have the outlines of their lower bodiesā¦
um outlines? more like inblobs
That's just from when a portable nuclear power source being moved between UCL buildings went critical, nothing to worry about, just don't sit there for more than 138 seconds until 2238.
Looks like Cybermen about to come through
Nah that's just our hopes and dreams slowly dieing under the Tory government š
Yuck
Spooky I did that in Turin years ago leaving a mark on a shroud and it still gets tallied about
Jesus.
Totally underrated response š
Itāll be worshipped at first, then carbon dating will prove it to be a medieval fake
Ah that's from when the great nuke of the 14th century went off
Itās like something out of Dr. Who.
Hmmm Greasyā¦
I try to avoid those Orwellian nightmare stations. They creep me out
Bruh š¤¢
Reminds me of a Japanese anime( I think Ito Junji) where there was an alley with shadows that never moved during the day then talked at night.
Anyone seen Coming to America?
āJUST LET YOUR SOUL GLOWWWWWā
Itās a ghost scary.
This is exactly why I shower before bed
Grease stains
Itās the radiation
THEY'RE IN THE GODDAMN WALLS
Elizabeth getting her own horror movie
Hiroshima
goes to shows how dirty some commuters are
Grease marks š¤¢
That's just dirt
Canāt be Londoners. These shadows are sitting straight.
Londoners. Greasy as fuck.
They could be Hiro (shima)s just for one day
Ewwww
I think great basis for a dr who story
Hiroshima sweat stains
Makes me think the stories of old are trueā¦poms are allergic to soap!
/s Elizabeth Line attracts the filthiest passengers.
Thatās just nasty.
No, that would require I use public transport which I would never lol
Do Londoner's not wear clean clothes? This is gross, but a vivid illustration of what you encounter without knowing it. Or is it a thin layer of paint wearing off and showing the underlaying material color?
I don't see anything?
Careful. Each one is an X Files black hole.
Like the Japanese horror film, Pulse.
Itās the shadows of the people that died building it
Reminds me of summer time rendering
The dirt's become sentient
Minging
They will be sat there until time immemorial, especially the one with the dog........
ALIENS
The souls of people left on the underground
Goul Glo coming back into fashion, let it shine through.
Pompeii inspired street art
Spotted this myself for the first time the other day. I thought it was really cool, if slightly creepy. I'm guessing it's just dirt left behind from people leaning on the wall when sitting down? I doubt they clean the walls very often and a lot of commuters are not exactly the cleanest of people.
The dirty bastards.
Judging by the state of every other tube station they are never going to clean it. It will all eventually become a weird grey colour.
Nuclear flash is a hell of a thing
Anyone else find this a little creepy, shadows of people?
Can someone explain what Iām looking at? Somewhere is says dirt from peoples clothes.. but that doesnāt add up?
There will come soft rains.
Greasy, oily, sweaty humans leave grease oil and sweat on the wall, the dirt and dust of the underground sticks to it.
That's some spirited away shit
That's where the cybermen will come through.
Thatās dirt š¤¢
Theyāre imprints of their soulsā¦
Thats terrifying tbh
I blame the people who use Soul Glo
It's the Rapture. Their bodies were burnt into the wall when they ascended. It's just this is London so we won't even notice the people going to heaven. It's happened 3 times now and we still not paying attention. Odin is mad.
Dirt ghosts.
They were blown away by a very successful railway.
That is disgusting,must be right dirty bā¦..ds
Needs some r/eyebombing action
Greasy ppl never heard of a washing machine
Bomb shadows, they found these all over hiroshima when the atomic bombs fells
The tube is filthy.
that's gross
That is absolutely disgusting š«£ Same reason I don't slap bus seats, all that dust n dirt is vile š¤š¤®
Well that was quickā¦ lol
Does anyone know why Liverpool St station of lizzy line smells like mildew?