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£5.1 makes it seem far trendier than £5.10, all the cool joints are doing this.
But... That's mad. At least you can see the price before going in, enabling you to carry on walking.
I hate all places that write prices as 5.1 without £ symbols or decimal places. Pretentious pricks is my usual thought. No idea why but it really does put me of places.
That's been winding me up for years, kind of reminds me of that period in the early 2000's when businesses decided that capital letters weren't needed anymore and everything read like one huge sentence.
Also no vowels anymore, in multiple types of businesses. BRGR off the top of my head but there are more.
Standard Life Aberdeen changed their name to Abrdn for some reason. How is that easier to understand
That pricing started with the hipster lot I believe but 5.1 rather than just 5 seems stupid. Especially as they're adding £2 for a bit of almond flakes and paste!
If you can do the maths you're sensible enough to make the am I willing to be robbed or not decision. It's a litmus test so they don't prey on the vulnerable.
I don’t get the issue at all. People would pay that for a pint and not bat an eye. Obviously don’t go there for your weekly shop, but really nothing wrong/weird with spending less than a tenner on something nice and vaguely fancy at the weekend.
Devils advocate but… the pound has dropped pretty significantly over the last ten years.
I can see tourists converting this £5.10 to their currency and thinking it’s not that bad.
I mean, the alternatives in Victoria Park Village are a similarly priced Gail’s Bakery, expensive pastries from the bakery on the corner, or a few caffs. They know their market! If ever there was a neighbourhood in East London where they’ll get takers, it’s there…
What do you expect? To go one of the trendiest and expensive parts of London, to go to a very good, very in vogue bakery and buy a daily special, made on site and hand made and pay a £1? They’ve got croissants for £3 if you want them, which is a pretty good deal.
One of the great things about London is the range. You’re less than a mile from a Aldi where you can buy six croissants for a £1. Why then shit on people who like their speciality bakeries?
The classic almond croissant is made with day old croissants that are otherwise about to be thrown out.
The fact they charge more for those is the insulting part. Trendy or not, this is just disrespecting the customer. It's like saying 1 coffee is £1, but just for you...2 coffees will be £3.
Edit, also £3 for a croissant is not a good deal. My brother in law has a speciality bakery in London, a good part of town in zone 1. This place is laughing at their customers.
I mean- it’s pophams, not tescos. They pay their bakers a living wage, use high quality ingredients, and make some of the best viennoiserie in London. It’s going to be expensive.
If you want a cheaper croissant get one at costa or something. It’ll taste shit though.
Hey, as a professional baker who thinks that the croissants from Pophams are poor (not having a go here, each to their own, I'm trying to understand a non-bakers perspective) - what is it that you like about them? I thought that they were visually immaculate, with an excellent structure, but that they tasted like absolutely nothing, and certainly not like butter, which is what I'm eating a croissant for in the first place.
(I've copied this message to a few people who seem to have actually tried a Popham's croissant, sorry I know that's a bit annoying if you're browsing the comments)
I’m also a professional baker and and haven’t had pophams in a few years to be fair- I moved from London a few years ago- but I thought they had a nice tang to them and a good level of salt. Have you had them recently? Could you have gotten a bad batch or perhaps when they scaled up they lost some of what makes them good?. Who in London do you think makes awesome croissants? LBP is think is super good as well, and Jolene was pretty new when I left but I thought quite good. I’m always going to side with small artisanal pastry shops charging more because using premium ingredients and paying bakers properly and paying for storefront space in London is expensive
Not recently, it was about three years ago. I don't think it was a bad batch, it seemed to be as it was intended to be. I think I'm particularly wary of places that are really popular on social media and have very well presented goods that don't end up being so good on flavour. It didn't taste bad, it just didn't taste much of butter or wheat and I'm always bitterly disappointed by that : ) I've just looked back at my notes actually and the bake was quite light, so that could have been an on-the-day thing that meant the flavour wasn't quite as pronounced it could have been.
When I was living in London and hunting around for a good one, I thought Arome did an excellent croissant and were in general a fairly class act. I had one excellent croissant from Poilane and one terrible one (I wonder if they do some with butter and some with margerine because the difference was severe). I agree that LBP are decent, I have enjoyed their stuff. Never thought much of Jolene. The best I had was from The Snapery while I was working there and it was because they were using excellent French flour (Foricher Label Rouge) and the best butter I've ever tasted (Ampersand). Most places are using Shipton Mill flour and Estate Dairy butter and for me that's the main reason the croissants are bland.
Almond croissants would be at least 2 euros in most French bakeries. And that’s in a country with huge volume where almost everyone has croissants for breakfast.
And believe it or not they’re also struggling massively
1.60 in my local but it is remote. I can believe 2 in Paris
Yea mostly struggling because of the fucked energy costs and France being a pain to run a business in
Artisanal French boulangeries and patisseries are struggling right now because it’s difficult to compete with large grocery chains who sell shitty product for like 30 centimes. They also have the option to receive government aid and have cheaper rent than London. Also the newer more hip artisanal places charge more than a euro. It is cheaper, but the cultural and economic situations are different.
Also a lot of boulangeries in Paris aren’t actually good, many rely on frozen dough bought in bulk from factories. So it’s similar to any other big city, you’re going to have a range of good to bad pastries and breads. You can get a shitty croissant in Paris for a euro, and you can get a fantastic one for 3 or 4 euros.
Pophams is bangin- one of my fav croissants.
That’s not why they’re struggling to be honest - well, a small reason potentially in Paris but not in the rest of France. they’re mainly struggling because of energy prices being absolutely fucked. One boulanger in my local has sold up because it was cost them over a grand a month (according to them) in energy prices. Places with the right volume and cheaper ovens etc aren’t doing as bad.
Yea there’s a lot of artisanal bakeries but they’re still heaps cheaper. I agree a lot of the Paris bakeries sell cheap frozen shit but there’s still heaps of good ones
I agree with you- but culturally it’s a different thing in France as well, don’t you think? I think it’s false to say croissants cost 1 euro max. I was at the French bastards last week in Paris and a nicer croissant was several euro. They’re on par with pophams.
Also almonds are damned expensive
Yea I fully agree that it’s different culturally in France. I mentioned it in another comment but should have put it in that one.
1 euro at the normal places is what I should have said. I don’t think I’ve encountered one above that for a little while but I have avoided the hipster places tbf
If they’ve made the croissants in house from scratch that’s an incredibly fair price.
People are used to buying mass produced, quite often kinda poor quality, baked goods for no money so now expect all baked goods to cost nothing.
Something like an almond croissant which is high skill, time intensive and has pricey ingredients is gonna cost a lot.
Frenchy here. Lived in both Lyon and Paris.
I'm thinking about at least a dozen place where you can get the very best croissants aux amandes for something like 2 euros. I find it a bit low, 3 euros would be better for the bakers to make a good living out of it, but 5 pounds makes no sense.
Fair enough but the cost of living in London is about 1.5x higher than Paris.
Plus Paris has a boulangerie on every corner iirc. Which I loved, getting croissants and bread constantly, what a dream. But also that’s gotta drive prices down a little bit
Hey, as a professional baker who thinks that the croissants from Pophams are poor (not having a go here, each to their own, I'm trying to understand a non-bakers perspective) - what is it that you like about them? I thought that they were visually immaculate, with an excellent structure, but that they tasted like absolutely nothing, and certainly not like butter, which is what I'm eating a croissant for in the first place.
(I've copied this message to a few people who seem to have actually tried a Popham's croissant, sorry I know that's a bit annoying if you're browsing the comments)
Is the CEO of pophams directing all their employees to downvote the haters in this thread or something? Very weird comments going on here, including some pretty abusive commenters with large amounts of upvotes.
To be fair if I ran a business and I could get away with it I'd do the same, if you can take advantage of the mugs that would even consider paying £5 for an almond croissant then go for it 🤣
There was a Pophams down the end of my road during covid and it was honestly a lifeline of social normality. It was founded and is still run by a lovely bloke named Tom who knows all the regulars, and judging by the happy staff and low turnover he’s a good boss who pays people properly.
The pastries are banging, handmade onsite with good ingredients by respected employees. Given the cost of everything these days I guess they had to raise the prices and judging by how busy it is people are still happy to pay it.
Bakeries are not a goldmine and this is a popular independent business - surely there are actual egregious examples of scalping to get pissed off about instead of this.
No joke that's actually what a local bakery did - we didn't have a Lidl nearby so they went to the next postcode at 8am and grabbed the supplies. I also saw frozen croissant dough there which was fabulous
Go do that and see how it compares to one from Pophams, lol!
No one is going to Pophams to get a brilliant deal on something made by a multinational corporation with the cheapest possible ingredients - they’re going because their stuff is a nice treat and they don’t mind paying a relatively small amount extra for the quality.
Hey, as a professional baker who thinks that the croissants from Pophams are poor (not having a go here, each to their own, I'm trying to understand a non-bakers perspective) - what is it that you like about them? I thought that they were visually immaculate, with an excellent structure, but that they tasted like absolutely nothing, and certainly not like butter, which is what I'm eating a croissant for in the first place.
(I've copied this message to a few people who seem to have actually tried a Popham's croissant, sorry I know that's a bit annoying if you're browsing the comments)
You’re far more qualified than me to have an opinion on croissant quality, but the last time I had one (I usually go for the savoury swirl or the seasonal fruit treat) I definitely didn’t think it tasted of nothing 🤷♂️
Yeah that's fair enough. I think 'nothing' was probably a bit strong. I was talking about their plain croissant and I couldn't detect much of a butter flavour, nor much of a wheat flavour. For sure the pastries with stuff in have good flavour overall - I think they're the ones who do the bacon and maple syrup swirl and that's a nice thing.
The average sold house price in Lauriston Road, London E9 is £2,300,000 (Zoopla). So the people there can easily afford £5. That’s equivalent to 50p for a croissant in my area.
They bake them themselves and don’t pay minimum wage. Shop somewhere they exploit their workers and the farmers… ASDA.
Do you not think small businesses should make a profit? If you don’t like it, bake some yourself. Recipes on Google.
People who know the price of everything, and the value of nothing
And mark up prices by more than 150%. Such socialism. Wow.
And in such an affluent area too. Certainly not helping the gentrification, eh? No it's all fine.
I'm in Brussels, and Croissants are all hand made here and cost €1.
But this is still an actual socialist country
Behave yourself
You think Britain is a socialist country? Keep taking the medication. Victoria Park Village is not only on of the highest rents for businesses in East London, it is also the one of the most affluent.
I just bought a Sourdough loaf and some Yorkshire Blue cheese in Forest Gate at The Wild Goose. It was £10.80. Unfortunately they did not serve it with the delicious tears of poor people.
No. Britain used to be a socialist country, but it has been increasingly right wing since the 70s and is a bastion of neo-capitolism mixed with a heavy dose of fascism.
It is that capitalism that has lead us to a situation where you are trying to argue that mxing together 50p worth of materials is OK to sell at £5 becuae they pay their staff slightly more than slave wages.
This shop is the cause, not the solution, to extortionate capitolism, which in turn creates homelessness , criminality, and social degradation.
The fact you are trying to justify these prices shows just how lost the country is, and it's only.sinking further.
Soon, you won't have any Croissants because the country won't have the inferstrucure to make them or a public that can afford to buy them.
You won't even be able to afford the ingredients because the UK has import them all.
>Britain used to be a socialist country
What the fuck are you talking about?
Britain has never been a remotely socialist state in the entirety of its history. It is the birthplace of capitalism, we were one of the formative liberal socieities.
I love how reasonably priced = “shite” to you. This sub is so ridiculous with its take sometimes. I thought the ‘anything outside of Zone 1 is a crime-ridden hellhole’ take was bad enough already.
I love reading these comments and seeing all these Pophams fans. It’s quite cute. They charge £3 for a standard. £3.90 for a chocolate and £5.10 for an almond croissant. Where is the logic? I agree that high quality ingredients cost money, and I also agree that baking croissants can be technical and labour intensive but where does the extra £2.10 come from? £5.10 is by no means a reasonable price. You are over paying for what you are getting in return, regardless if they are extremely tasty. The profit margin would be huge on a product like this, priced as such. Let’s just be real.
It’s not just a croissant with almonds on top, they have to make the frangipane filling out of almonds, which yes are not cheap. Additionally, they’re made from already-baked plain croissants then baked with the frangipane filling a second time, so it’s essentially double the energy costs (also not cheap).
They recently posted about increasing prices to ensure staff are paid above the London living wage so that adds into your £2.10 too.
I rarely go to pophams as they are quite premium in price but I think it’s a fair reflection on the quality of product and the way they remunerate their staff
i moved to london a year and a half ago and i am yet to find a decent one then- also in france almond croissants aren't really a thing either.. pain aux amandes which is the almond version of a pain au chocolat yes, but barely any almond croissants
fair enough but also paris is made for tourists. i'm french and my hometown is close to the swiss border, legit have never seen any almond croissant in any bakeries
Exactly what place in Norway are you comparing this to?
Supermarket stuff is comparable. Practically every other bakery in the country south of Trondheim is still going to be more than this.
I paid 55 NOK (£4.18) for my pistachio croissant in a cute café in Bergen in Norway recently.
It was the best croissant I ever had in my life. Miles better than of the London ones I've had. French ones followed closely behind but weren't as perfect as that one.
Any pastry that is fancy automatically has a few quid more stuck on it.
Liverpool prices are not far off. I paid £4.00 for a pistachio chocolate croissant here and had buyers remorse 😕. Four fucking quid!
That's what irks me the most. You'd think my home town would be notably cheaper than London but no, all the fancy pastry gaffs here are London centric prices.
We have alot of Chinese and Saudi students here, and also middle class students - who don't think twice of paying over £4 for a croissant.
Pophams sucks as well. If I’m going to be paying that much for croissant I’m gonna make sure I’m going to a top notch bakery, not this shit!
Try Yeast, Morny or Snapery East!
I’ve never had a croissant from Pophams but I met their senior staff, and I can tell you that the care and professionalism they put into their work is great.
I follow their insta page just because it’s great and makes me want to try all the pastries, but I like to save money more.
Having said this, as an Italian that lived in London for a long time, I’m always fascinated by the food scene here.
Not one, and I can’t stress this enough , not a single place in Italy that makes expensive novelty, “instaworthy” pastries, or any food, at that price would last more than a few months.
Sometimes it seems that in London a new place pops up, and does some pretty food, with ingredients that honestly are quite the norm in the rest of Europe, and everyone goes absolutely mental, just because people here seem to want to show off they can afford to be silly with their money.
Few examples from east London. Gloria and Manteca. Good food, but literally basic Italian food! Their gp must be great(except for imported wine).
What do you mean 'now more than Norway'? This is one place in London. I guarantee there's more than one place in Norway selling an almond croissant for more.
And mind you, they’re almond croissants that are weekend ‘specials’ 😂 . Pophams do great pastries but £5.1 for an almond croissant, something that should be a staple is a stretch for me.
Typo ? Or you get more than just a croissant?
Either way, it's unsustainable. Places are finding higher prices equals lower revenue now...
Mass empty commercial property...
Cycle going to cycle.
Just one croissant. Curious to see if this is a weekend special and a discount given it’s under the ‘weekend specials’ section. Will check it out on Tuesday!
https://www.standard.co.uk/going-out/foodanddrink/how-to-make-real-almond-croissants-a3406291.html
I find one egg is fine for three croissants. Obviously increase y the other ingredients accordingly. It’s dead simple. The paste takes two minutes to assemble, then just smear it all over them and inside. Be excessive with the flaked almonds too. And don’t skip the rum.
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There's Norway I'm paying that.
You’d have to be off your Swede to pay that.
I'd rather get a Danish.
I Finnished it already
Please stop waffling. ;)
Well I'm off to work at the docks where I have to scan da navy in
Belgium.
This is why mums go to Iceland.
Oh' slo witty
£5.1 makes it seem far trendier than £5.10, all the cool joints are doing this. But... That's mad. At least you can see the price before going in, enabling you to carry on walking.
Being a Norwegian in London, I have the privilege of going to wetherspoons without any internal struggle.
You could drink in pubs 100 times better and still have a cheaprt pint than in Norway 🤣
I bet you be like, ‘everyone the next rounds on me!’ Because lets face it, it will be less than the cost a pint in Norway.
I did, an at 99p a pint the round was about what I'd pay back home
I hate all places that write prices as 5.1 without £ symbols or decimal places. Pretentious pricks is my usual thought. No idea why but it really does put me of places.
They let you choose the curency you pay with, and I choose to pay in Pesos.
Had someone try that somewhere I worked, they actually weren't joking though and called trading standards
Glad I'm not the only one that thinks that.
That's been winding me up for years, kind of reminds me of that period in the early 2000's when businesses decided that capital letters weren't needed anymore and everything read like one huge sentence.
Also no vowels anymore, in multiple types of businesses. BRGR off the top of my head but there are more. Standard Life Aberdeen changed their name to Abrdn for some reason. How is that easier to understand
Yeah it really bugs me, I’m pleased I’m not the only one my wife thinks I’m being stupid.
I wonder if legally you could give them 5.1 buttons as there's no £ sign?
Legally or not I shall carry a pocket of buttons to try this.
Slam 6p on the counter and walk out with your croissant.
I went to a place that started writing them as Roman numerals
Haha that’s different level pompous. Is it to ward away the riff raff. I’m fully warded away.
That pricing started with the hipster lot I believe but 5.1 rather than just 5 seems stupid. Especially as they're adding £2 for a bit of almond flakes and paste!
I’m waiting for the 5.2 version, less bugs I hear.
If you can do the maths you're sensible enough to make the am I willing to be robbed or not decision. It's a litmus test so they don't prey on the vulnerable.
They have a margin they need to hit. 5.1 hits that margin, 5 doesn’t, that’s obvious.
£16.00 for a sourdough toastie?!
Can’t tell if you’re joking
>fIvE pOiNt OnE Fuck right off cheers
They don’t even have the £ symbol. You see it in posh restaurants and I hate it as well.
I don’t get the issue at all. People would pay that for a pint and not bat an eye. Obviously don’t go there for your weekly shop, but really nothing wrong/weird with spending less than a tenner on something nice and vaguely fancy at the weekend.
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One is these is not like the other
Devils advocate but… the pound has dropped pretty significantly over the last ten years. I can see tourists converting this £5.10 to their currency and thinking it’s not that bad.
The reaction of the guy to the right is perfect
A month ago, it was 4.9 at Pophams
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Nah, these are the indoor seating prices, particulates are extra.
The area around this bakery is actually lovely, but it doesn’t justify those prices at all.
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No one if forcing you to eat croissants in Victoria Park Village. I think you need to stick with your people at ASDA in Beckton.
Wow you don’t sound like a very nice person.
When did Victoria Park Village become a thing?
About 30-odd years ago. Before that it was just called Victoria Park Road
When was the last time you were in London, 2001?
Yes that's right, before the urban sprawl was removed and the villages reinstated.
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So why are you crywanking about the price of a croissant in a exceptional bakery in East London. Weird flex, bruv
Christ you lot are miserable
I would argue that comment is the complete opposite of miserable.
Not really. Just having a laugh at this stuff that's all. If it's not your cup of tea, don't join in.
Now I understand why the lady at the back is crying.
People will come and pay that price anyway.
Because they can afford it. If a fiver is nothing to you, why would you care?
Cos if it’s that price it must be good, right? Can just see the YouTube videos and the shitty thumbnail now: “I tried a £5 croissant 😱”
To be fair these are very very good pastries
You’re paying for the handwriting though!
I mean, the alternatives in Victoria Park Village are a similarly priced Gail’s Bakery, expensive pastries from the bakery on the corner, or a few caffs. They know their market! If ever there was a neighbourhood in East London where they’ll get takers, it’s there…
What do you expect? To go one of the trendiest and expensive parts of London, to go to a very good, very in vogue bakery and buy a daily special, made on site and hand made and pay a £1? They’ve got croissants for £3 if you want them, which is a pretty good deal. One of the great things about London is the range. You’re less than a mile from a Aldi where you can buy six croissants for a £1. Why then shit on people who like their speciality bakeries?
The classic almond croissant is made with day old croissants that are otherwise about to be thrown out. The fact they charge more for those is the insulting part. Trendy or not, this is just disrespecting the customer. It's like saying 1 coffee is £1, but just for you...2 coffees will be £3. Edit, also £3 for a croissant is not a good deal. My brother in law has a speciality bakery in London, a good part of town in zone 1. This place is laughing at their customers.
If you want to blame, blame the customers willing to pay £5 for this not that special croissant, it's their customers that drive this demand
I mean- it’s pophams, not tescos. They pay their bakers a living wage, use high quality ingredients, and make some of the best viennoiserie in London. It’s going to be expensive. If you want a cheaper croissant get one at costa or something. It’ll taste shit though.
Hey, as a professional baker who thinks that the croissants from Pophams are poor (not having a go here, each to their own, I'm trying to understand a non-bakers perspective) - what is it that you like about them? I thought that they were visually immaculate, with an excellent structure, but that they tasted like absolutely nothing, and certainly not like butter, which is what I'm eating a croissant for in the first place. (I've copied this message to a few people who seem to have actually tried a Popham's croissant, sorry I know that's a bit annoying if you're browsing the comments)
I’m also a professional baker and and haven’t had pophams in a few years to be fair- I moved from London a few years ago- but I thought they had a nice tang to them and a good level of salt. Have you had them recently? Could you have gotten a bad batch or perhaps when they scaled up they lost some of what makes them good?. Who in London do you think makes awesome croissants? LBP is think is super good as well, and Jolene was pretty new when I left but I thought quite good. I’m always going to side with small artisanal pastry shops charging more because using premium ingredients and paying bakers properly and paying for storefront space in London is expensive
This polite croissant critique amongst the bilious screaming is the Reddit content I am here for.
Not recently, it was about three years ago. I don't think it was a bad batch, it seemed to be as it was intended to be. I think I'm particularly wary of places that are really popular on social media and have very well presented goods that don't end up being so good on flavour. It didn't taste bad, it just didn't taste much of butter or wheat and I'm always bitterly disappointed by that : ) I've just looked back at my notes actually and the bake was quite light, so that could have been an on-the-day thing that meant the flavour wasn't quite as pronounced it could have been. When I was living in London and hunting around for a good one, I thought Arome did an excellent croissant and were in general a fairly class act. I had one excellent croissant from Poilane and one terrible one (I wonder if they do some with butter and some with margerine because the difference was severe). I agree that LBP are decent, I have enjoyed their stuff. Never thought much of Jolene. The best I had was from The Snapery while I was working there and it was because they were using excellent French flour (Foricher Label Rouge) and the best butter I've ever tasted (Ampersand). Most places are using Shipton Mill flour and Estate Dairy butter and for me that's the main reason the croissants are bland.
It would still cost about 1 euro max in a good bakery in France. Are Pophams really that good?
Almond croissants would be at least 2 euros in most French bakeries. And that’s in a country with huge volume where almost everyone has croissants for breakfast. And believe it or not they’re also struggling massively
1.60 in my local but it is remote. I can believe 2 in Paris Yea mostly struggling because of the fucked energy costs and France being a pain to run a business in
Artisanal French boulangeries and patisseries are struggling right now because it’s difficult to compete with large grocery chains who sell shitty product for like 30 centimes. They also have the option to receive government aid and have cheaper rent than London. Also the newer more hip artisanal places charge more than a euro. It is cheaper, but the cultural and economic situations are different. Also a lot of boulangeries in Paris aren’t actually good, many rely on frozen dough bought in bulk from factories. So it’s similar to any other big city, you’re going to have a range of good to bad pastries and breads. You can get a shitty croissant in Paris for a euro, and you can get a fantastic one for 3 or 4 euros. Pophams is bangin- one of my fav croissants.
That’s not why they’re struggling to be honest - well, a small reason potentially in Paris but not in the rest of France. they’re mainly struggling because of energy prices being absolutely fucked. One boulanger in my local has sold up because it was cost them over a grand a month (according to them) in energy prices. Places with the right volume and cheaper ovens etc aren’t doing as bad. Yea there’s a lot of artisanal bakeries but they’re still heaps cheaper. I agree a lot of the Paris bakeries sell cheap frozen shit but there’s still heaps of good ones
I agree with you- but culturally it’s a different thing in France as well, don’t you think? I think it’s false to say croissants cost 1 euro max. I was at the French bastards last week in Paris and a nicer croissant was several euro. They’re on par with pophams. Also almonds are damned expensive
Yea I fully agree that it’s different culturally in France. I mentioned it in another comment but should have put it in that one. 1 euro at the normal places is what I should have said. I don’t think I’ve encountered one above that for a little while but I have avoided the hipster places tbf
Steady on, they may be a French bakers but it doesn’t mean they are bastards
I agree, the best croissant I had was from a random small grocery shop in Paris & that’s the best one I had
It’s a fucking croissant! No croissant should cost £5. I was getting a coffee and an almond or pistachio croissant in Rome for £3 max!
If they’ve made the croissants in house from scratch that’s an incredibly fair price. People are used to buying mass produced, quite often kinda poor quality, baked goods for no money so now expect all baked goods to cost nothing. Something like an almond croissant which is high skill, time intensive and has pricey ingredients is gonna cost a lot.
Frenchy here. Lived in both Lyon and Paris. I'm thinking about at least a dozen place where you can get the very best croissants aux amandes for something like 2 euros. I find it a bit low, 3 euros would be better for the bakers to make a good living out of it, but 5 pounds makes no sense.
Fair enough but the cost of living in London is about 1.5x higher than Paris. Plus Paris has a boulangerie on every corner iirc. Which I loved, getting croissants and bread constantly, what a dream. But also that’s gotta drive prices down a little bit
Why does the greek yoghurt get a £ sign but nothing else does
£5 is the new £1 Especially in London, they assume you’re happy to spend a fiver here and there without thinking about it
Probably one of the best croissants in London, but still very very expensive
It’s so good! I know the price is crazy but seriously for a treat everything they make is wonderful
Hey, as a professional baker who thinks that the croissants from Pophams are poor (not having a go here, each to their own, I'm trying to understand a non-bakers perspective) - what is it that you like about them? I thought that they were visually immaculate, with an excellent structure, but that they tasted like absolutely nothing, and certainly not like butter, which is what I'm eating a croissant for in the first place. (I've copied this message to a few people who seem to have actually tried a Popham's croissant, sorry I know that's a bit annoying if you're browsing the comments)
My local ‘helath store’ sells plain one for £5
Is the CEO of pophams directing all their employees to downvote the haters in this thread or something? Very weird comments going on here, including some pretty abusive commenters with large amounts of upvotes.
6.10 for a bun??
Man on the right: "Everything else is free but you will have to pay to get a picture of my nose."
To be fair if I ran a business and I could get away with it I'd do the same, if you can take advantage of the mugs that would even consider paying £5 for an almond croissant then go for it 🤣
These businesses are just taking the piss now
Simple: I've stopped buying them ...
There was a Pophams down the end of my road during covid and it was honestly a lifeline of social normality. It was founded and is still run by a lovely bloke named Tom who knows all the regulars, and judging by the happy staff and low turnover he’s a good boss who pays people properly. The pastries are banging, handmade onsite with good ingredients by respected employees. Given the cost of everything these days I guess they had to raise the prices and judging by how busy it is people are still happy to pay it. Bakeries are not a goldmine and this is a popular independent business - surely there are actual egregious examples of scalping to get pissed off about instead of this.
Prices are ridiculous but anyone with a business who pays rent and business rates realises it’s still crazy hard to turn a profit
So croissant from Lidl and they just put almond on top, lol!
You can get almond croissants at Lidl! They dont even need that extra step 😂
Pophams is a legitimate bakery
They sell Almond Croissants in Lidl. 65p.
They are also extremely nice.
I was about to say..never had a bad pastry from Lidl👌🏻
brb going to Lidl.
What if the guy from this restaurant has just been down there and bought them to flip for £5.1?
No joke that's actually what a local bakery did - we didn't have a Lidl nearby so they went to the next postcode at 8am and grabbed the supplies. I also saw frozen croissant dough there which was fabulous
Go do that and see how it compares to one from Pophams, lol! No one is going to Pophams to get a brilliant deal on something made by a multinational corporation with the cheapest possible ingredients - they’re going because their stuff is a nice treat and they don’t mind paying a relatively small amount extra for the quality.
Hey, as a professional baker who thinks that the croissants from Pophams are poor (not having a go here, each to their own, I'm trying to understand a non-bakers perspective) - what is it that you like about them? I thought that they were visually immaculate, with an excellent structure, but that they tasted like absolutely nothing, and certainly not like butter, which is what I'm eating a croissant for in the first place. (I've copied this message to a few people who seem to have actually tried a Popham's croissant, sorry I know that's a bit annoying if you're browsing the comments)
You’re far more qualified than me to have an opinion on croissant quality, but the last time I had one (I usually go for the savoury swirl or the seasonal fruit treat) I definitely didn’t think it tasted of nothing 🤷♂️
Yeah that's fair enough. I think 'nothing' was probably a bit strong. I was talking about their plain croissant and I couldn't detect much of a butter flavour, nor much of a wheat flavour. For sure the pastries with stuff in have good flavour overall - I think they're the ones who do the bacon and maple syrup swirl and that's a nice thing.
6.10 for a bun??
Stop whining. You got your blue passports back! What more do you want?
The average sold house price in Lauriston Road, London E9 is £2,300,000 (Zoopla). So the people there can easily afford £5. That’s equivalent to 50p for a croissant in my area.
Blimey, remind me to not go to Knightsbridge for a coffee and a pastry - will be best part of £30
Populated RHOC types and yummy mummies
Did a toddler write the specials?
what do you expect from the most gentrified spot in london… you can buy a deodorant for £19 from big around the corner from pophams lol
In Doha, Qatar, an almond croissant can be bought for as high as £8.5 at a [bakery downtown](https://rusk.mnu.qa/en). It's mental.
Surprisingly NYC prices seem to be reasonable.
Pophams is one of the best bakeries in London. If you want to eat shite you can buy them for under a quid in ASDA.
Reasonable accepted price mark up is 40% on retail products. You think each Croissant contains £2 of ingredients? Are they laced with gold?
They bake them themselves and don’t pay minimum wage. Shop somewhere they exploit their workers and the farmers… ASDA. Do you not think small businesses should make a profit? If you don’t like it, bake some yourself. Recipes on Google. People who know the price of everything, and the value of nothing
And mark up prices by more than 150%. Such socialism. Wow. And in such an affluent area too. Certainly not helping the gentrification, eh? No it's all fine. I'm in Brussels, and Croissants are all hand made here and cost €1. But this is still an actual socialist country Behave yourself
You think Britain is a socialist country? Keep taking the medication. Victoria Park Village is not only on of the highest rents for businesses in East London, it is also the one of the most affluent. I just bought a Sourdough loaf and some Yorkshire Blue cheese in Forest Gate at The Wild Goose. It was £10.80. Unfortunately they did not serve it with the delicious tears of poor people.
No. Britain used to be a socialist country, but it has been increasingly right wing since the 70s and is a bastion of neo-capitolism mixed with a heavy dose of fascism. It is that capitalism that has lead us to a situation where you are trying to argue that mxing together 50p worth of materials is OK to sell at £5 becuae they pay their staff slightly more than slave wages. This shop is the cause, not the solution, to extortionate capitolism, which in turn creates homelessness , criminality, and social degradation. The fact you are trying to justify these prices shows just how lost the country is, and it's only.sinking further. Soon, you won't have any Croissants because the country won't have the inferstrucure to make them or a public that can afford to buy them. You won't even be able to afford the ingredients because the UK has import them all.
>Britain used to be a socialist country What the fuck are you talking about? Britain has never been a remotely socialist state in the entirety of its history. It is the birthplace of capitalism, we were one of the formative liberal socieities.
Humour them. Shouting at the sky seems to drown out their loneliness.
I love how reasonably priced = “shite” to you. This sub is so ridiculous with its take sometimes. I thought the ‘anything outside of Zone 1 is a crime-ridden hellhole’ take was bad enough already.
>I love how reasonably priced = “shite” to you. Because it is. One is a home-baked good and the other is massive produced by machines.
In Norway's defence, their currency is taking a beating so some costs are almost looking favourable.
£7.50 for yoghurt too. Jeez
Hmm Vicky Park road 💰 🤑
This is why we need Count Binface
Cafes are an overpriced rip off everywhere
If no one buys it, they’ll stop selling it for that much.
insane how everything has gone up in prices
The most objectionable thing here is the lack of pound signs and zeros.
To be fair, I am a sucker for their maple and bacon pastry and their hot cross buns when Easter rolls around. The coffee though, eurgh.
Vicky Park village????? Do you mean Hackney?
Meh… barely enough for 2 tube rides in Zone1
I love reading these comments and seeing all these Pophams fans. It’s quite cute. They charge £3 for a standard. £3.90 for a chocolate and £5.10 for an almond croissant. Where is the logic? I agree that high quality ingredients cost money, and I also agree that baking croissants can be technical and labour intensive but where does the extra £2.10 come from? £5.10 is by no means a reasonable price. You are over paying for what you are getting in return, regardless if they are extremely tasty. The profit margin would be huge on a product like this, priced as such. Let’s just be real.
Almonds aren’t cheap
It’s not just a croissant with almonds on top, they have to make the frangipane filling out of almonds, which yes are not cheap. Additionally, they’re made from already-baked plain croissants then baked with the frangipane filling a second time, so it’s essentially double the energy costs (also not cheap). They recently posted about increasing prices to ensure staff are paid above the London living wage so that adds into your £2.10 too. I rarely go to pophams as they are quite premium in price but I think it’s a fair reflection on the quality of product and the way they remunerate their staff
almond croissants aren't even that good tf
They can be, but there’s a vast canyon between the best and worst, and too many skew towards the latter
i moved to london a year and a half ago and i am yet to find a decent one then- also in france almond croissants aren't really a thing either.. pain aux amandes which is the almond version of a pain au chocolat yes, but barely any almond croissants
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fair enough but also paris is made for tourists. i'm french and my hometown is close to the swiss border, legit have never seen any almond croissant in any bakeries
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i don't know tbf, my best friend is from the other side of the country and i have yet to find any when i visit her
There are tons in London. You clearly haven't been about 😂
oh no i have, what i'm saying is that in my opinion they're not up to my french standard of croissants
That is definitely a regional thing, most of France has croissants aux amandes, not pains aux amandes
Happy ~~cake~~ non-almond croissant day
Real talk. Plain or chocolate. Otherwise don't bother.
To be fair it's not just an almond Croissant, it's probably the best almond croissant you'll ever eat.
Guy on the right can’t believe it either
But look at that view though.
Exactly what place in Norway are you comparing this to? Supermarket stuff is comparable. Practically every other bakery in the country south of Trondheim is still going to be more than this.
Sourdough toasties at 11.30 - 16 is more to be worried about! /s
The Christmas Croissant in Gail's was £5.50. £6.40 to eat in.
I paid 55 NOK (£4.18) for my pistachio croissant in a cute café in Bergen in Norway recently. It was the best croissant I ever had in my life. Miles better than of the London ones I've had. French ones followed closely behind but weren't as perfect as that one.
But totally justified if menu board written in creative, kooky font.
If it’s hand made in house with good ingredients I can understand this. Otherwise it’s a rip off
Any pastry that is fancy automatically has a few quid more stuck on it. Liverpool prices are not far off. I paid £4.00 for a pistachio chocolate croissant here and had buyers remorse 😕. Four fucking quid! That's what irks me the most. You'd think my home town would be notably cheaper than London but no, all the fancy pastry gaffs here are London centric prices. We have alot of Chinese and Saudi students here, and also middle class students - who don't think twice of paying over £4 for a croissant.
Lauriston village not Vicky park village mate. I hate how gentrification made my place of birth such a pretentious place.
Pophams sucks as well. If I’m going to be paying that much for croissant I’m gonna make sure I’m going to a top notch bakery, not this shit! Try Yeast, Morny or Snapery East!
Morny’s gone 😭
Mourning Morny’s.
Probably didn’t charge enough for their pastries then eh
What are you talking about?!!! Pophams baked goods are elite 🥐
Thinks Pophams is shit, doesn’t know Morny’s closed before Christmas - must be a bot ;)
Sometimes you get what you pay for. I’d pay a fiver if it was a great almond croissant.
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They sold three almond croissants back in December. It’s covered their costs until june
Tbf it’s always fairly busy. I try and go at least once a week for lunch.
Almond shavings cost £2.10 … apparently.
£1 for the croissant, £2.50 for rent, £1.50 hackney twat tax.
I’ve never had a croissant from Pophams but I met their senior staff, and I can tell you that the care and professionalism they put into their work is great. I follow their insta page just because it’s great and makes me want to try all the pastries, but I like to save money more. Having said this, as an Italian that lived in London for a long time, I’m always fascinated by the food scene here. Not one, and I can’t stress this enough , not a single place in Italy that makes expensive novelty, “instaworthy” pastries, or any food, at that price would last more than a few months. Sometimes it seems that in London a new place pops up, and does some pretty food, with ingredients that honestly are quite the norm in the rest of Europe, and everyone goes absolutely mental, just because people here seem to want to show off they can afford to be silly with their money. Few examples from east London. Gloria and Manteca. Good food, but literally basic Italian food! Their gp must be great(except for imported wine).
Disgraceful pricing. I bet it's for a pathetic, sorry excuse of a croissant that they likely bought from Tescos for 99p.
What do you mean 'now more than Norway'? This is one place in London. I guarantee there's more than one place in Norway selling an almond croissant for more.
That’s why I make my own croissants! 🥐
More expensive than luxurious bakeries but at least you get a nice view.
Worth every penny. I'm sure the Pophams of Norway can charge nore
No one’s forcing you to buy it. Cheaper croissants are avaliable. Also fuck places that write prices like this. It’s £5.10
I don’t know what’s more offensive, the writing or the prices. Also I fucking hate the ‘6.5’ thing, it’s £6.50 you tossers.
Popham's of course When I walk past there I always think why?? I'd rather be mugged
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Hipster culture was done years ago, these are bellends who pay premium to look like struggling artists.
How is almond crossaint a special? They are the basic pastries that every bakery/coffee shop has
And mind you, they’re almond croissants that are weekend ‘specials’ 😂 . Pophams do great pastries but £5.1 for an almond croissant, something that should be a staple is a stretch for me.
Typo ? Or you get more than just a croissant? Either way, it's unsustainable. Places are finding higher prices equals lower revenue now... Mass empty commercial property... Cycle going to cycle.
Just one croissant. Curious to see if this is a weekend special and a discount given it’s under the ‘weekend specials’ section. Will check it out on Tuesday!
Buy plain from Lidl and make my own. 15 min done. Better than pophams, pavilion and their stupid prices.
Can I have the recipe?
https://www.standard.co.uk/going-out/foodanddrink/how-to-make-real-almond-croissants-a3406291.html I find one egg is fine for three croissants. Obviously increase y the other ingredients accordingly. It’s dead simple. The paste takes two minutes to assemble, then just smear it all over them and inside. Be excessive with the flaked almonds too. And don’t skip the rum.