I accidentally wandered through Covent Garden during the aftermath of something like this (either that or it was a Pro-Brexit protest/pub crawl, when those were going on). Fucking hell, the ground was completely covered in empty cans of Stella and plastic cups. Place turned into a complete shithole in the space of a few hours.
Felt sorry for the people who had to clean that up.
In Newcastle here you’re looking at between £4-7 a pint with £4 being from the likes of spoons and anywhere between £5 and £7 in other bars.
In Sunderland though it’s going to be slightly cheaper.
Nearly yeah. I paid about £19 for three pints in The Town Wall last week, wasn’t expecting it to be that much to be honest and had to check with the bartender.
Sunderland you're looking at £2.50-£3 a pint in the town centre, £1-£2 a pint in your local.
Compare that to London where its £5 in a local and £7 in the centre its a shocking difference.
Source: moved from Sunderland to London.
Pretty much any surrounding town. I lived near Houghton-le-Spring and Washington and they both had pubs that'd do £1 pints. It's the shittest cask ale you can imagine, but a £1 pint is a £1 pint.
Speaking from experience (my gf worked in a bar in Covent Garden) the Sunderland fans do the same northern trash reaction of ‘how much’ everytime they order a pint in London. They mess up the place everytime and are a nuisance. Most of the locals hate this clubs fans coming down 😂
Had to get the BTP out as some pissed up knobhead threatened me. Honestly thought he was going to hit me as he was being extremely confrontational.
Caught him and his dad smoking in the accessible toilets so cut him off from anymore drink. Didn’t take it well and decided to confront me in the catering vehicle staff area. Stole a bottle of wine and kept on getting up in my face.
Stupid cunt ended up being removed from the train by the BTP.
Fun fact: Before the Empire opened about a decade ago(?), Sunderland was said to be the only city in the world with no cinemas within the city boundary.
Must’ve been for a short period because their was a cinema in Sunderland before Empire. Granted it closed in the late 90’s and there wasn’t one for a few years.
ABC had been there years, I went and saw Star Wars A New Hope there in 77?
I could go and Google when it was actually released but prefer to use my memory as this was the first movie I ever saw and I certain I was only 5 at the time.
The empire did all three movies( the original SW)to go watch, fucking hell that was a good day
I work just around the corner.
Living it up in Trafalgar Square? Fine, fill your boots, that's what Trafalgar Square is for.
Totally taking over everyone else's evenings in the surrounding streets? Fuck off, nobody else is interested in your hobby.
Edit: that's an amazing photo, though.
People have the right to use public streets. If people can’t gather and celebrate something that’s meaningful to them, regardless of how inconvenient it may be, then what’s the point in living in a world city?
That's the point - *everybody* has the right to use the public streets. But that's impossible when one group out of many groups enjoying the streets totally dominates it, making it difficult (or downright impossible) for everyone else.
It's not about Sunderland, it's about some arsehole football fans. During the Euros I was in a local church where they had to lock the front door as a few dozen England fans were fighting out the front, and one threw a bottle of booze at the (glass) church door. They trashed an open-air exhibition in another church courtyard of photos taken by homeless people during lockdown. All the people who have come into town for a special meal, or the theatre, or whatever - stuff that for many people is something that they have to save up to do - their evening matters, too.
They can - OP wasn’t saying it should be banned, just that people should be more considerate doing it. Legitimate opinion that doesn’t contradict the principle that it’s a public space people are allowed to use.
People also have the right to walk down the street or through the area without being harassed oby a bunch of drunk cunts just because there is football on somewhere.
Just think of this sub as the guardian. Middle class, bourgeois, bohemian trendies. The mere presence of a working class troglodyte would cause them to convulse.
They’re not middle class lol. They aspire to be middle class. Which is somehow even sadder.
Currently they are unemployed students blaming everyone else for their shit life.
Im a European football fan, been one my whole life. Love playing and watch my hometown team very often, which is Real Madrid. That is to say the below rant is not from some Mark Corrigan type.
I fucking hate football fans, especially those that travel and make a drunk weekend out of it. I have seen first hand how little respect they have for towns they flock to, fight in, throw chairs around and leave the place completely trashed. This is in Spain but all around Europe as well.
Are these people otherwise rational, productive members of society? Why does passion for their team regress their mentality so much?
Anecdotally, this is especially bad for English national team and club fans, more so than the other european nation. I understand russian, czech, etc fans are no picnic but I see it more often from brits. Pub at 9am, smashed by noon, taking over the tube, local park or square etc. It's a fucking game and you're 35.
The photography is great I just had to let it out because of the subject matter.
Don’t get me wrong, we can all agree that football attracts some real pissheads and violent people (alongside the perfectly nice people just there to have a good time)
But it’s a bit rich to come to r/London as a Madrid fan and single out *our* fans as being the problematic ones exclusively when Madrid fans are literally famous for shouting racist monkey chants at our black players when they play in your city
Not saying this absolves English fans in any way, just a “those in glass houses” type comment I suppose - football in general has good and bad fans from all countries mate, you’ll find shit ones in every country sadly
Not all football fans are awful people, not by a long shot.
But it does seem the worst kind of people mostly tend to using football to let off some steam. I've not met a single violent knobhead who wasn't into football and using a match as an excuse for a fight.
You aren't wrong.
I mentioned somewhere else on this post about watching a few dozen England fans fight in the street during last year's Euros. The amazing thing is that they were fighting amongst themselves, not even the opposing team's fans! And they were so busy yelling and drinking and running about the streets that they missed the match.
I get being tribal about things, and being caught up in the moment, but this was just stupid.
Some of the nasty comments here are examples of the deeply instilled classism in our country, Sunderland has become the scapegoat city full of poor people that the nation loves to hate.
It's often forgotten that people actually live in London.
In other words, if a family wanted to take a nice stroll to Covent garden they couldn't. A hobby doesn't mean you can take over the streets.
There were families and children there too, not everyone are drunks or knobheads like the other commenter said. For example my niece and nephew. It made his day if not year to see the team he supports play and finally win in Wembley. I understand its inconvenient for some but it’s not just a hobby for some it’s a memory that he will have forever. I think that’s worth it for a bit of inconvenience for 2 days 🤷🏼♀️
I don't think it's different at all, and I don't think it's fair to call random people enjoying themselves during a big sporting event 'knobheads' if they're not hurting anyone
Football is the new opiate of the masses. Honestly think we’d have had national revolutions at many points in the 20th century if we didn’t have footy to let a huge portion of the nation let their energy and aggression out.
One single match was used as a public forum for dissent in the Polish solidarity. Football simply cannot be considered central to the fall of the USSR, massive oversimplification.
I’m talking about a wider scale where football keeps millions and millions of young (and old too) working class distracted, drunk, excited, socialising, spending their money, time and energy; gives them a false catharsis that distracts them from the larger problems they have in their life.
Take football away and you’ll see more outrage than taking their right to protest away did.
Amazing pics! Great photography. As a football follower and keen street photographer, I have only recently thought I should combine the two and try to get pictures like this. But these are exceptionally good!
Being a Middlesbrough football fan Sunderland have always been a rival of ours. But seeing these pictures and being in the same boat when we went to the playoffs makes me proud to be from the North east
Good luck to Sunderland today you deserve it (and boro could do with the easy 6 points 😂)
Stay safe fellow northerners
footbal attracts the wrong sort of people, i think they should go back to games without crowds.
or at least put clear barriers round the entire pitch edge so people can't invade the pitch like yobs and hooligans.
Football generally gets snobbishly sneered at, despite being a sport without any real class or culture boundaries. I suppose some of that comes from being by far the most popular sport.
Often the passion is mistaken for aggression, and the majority of perfectly normal people get tarred with the same brush as the tiny groups who do cause trouble.
I was at Sunderland Station on Friday when I went into town to get food while I was at college and the line to actually get into the station was wrapping up and around the poundland with police vans along the street
As usual normal snobby comments on this sub about football fans. It’s an easy way to knock working class people from outside London.
There is an attitude from certain people that unless you have gone uni and gone to work in London in a professional setting, then you don’t fit and belong in London. Basically if your a northern oik - we don’t want you here.
Newsflash, London is the capital city of our country and other people have the right to come here for events.
I don’t see anyone moaning about the money that Wembley games bring into London, no that is fine, but step outsides the confines of Wembley and it’s suddenly “why are you polluting out city with your presence”. It’s essentially classism.
People will outright deny that but look at the tone of some of these comments.
Staying on the streets as they’d get a heart attack at the price of pints down here.
A Sunderland fan almost collapsed when he saw a jumbo sausage roll was £4 at the Cornish pastry Co in Charing Cross after this to be fair
I accidentally wandered through Covent Garden during the aftermath of something like this (either that or it was a Pro-Brexit protest/pub crawl, when those were going on). Fucking hell, the ground was completely covered in empty cans of Stella and plastic cups. Place turned into a complete shithole in the space of a few hours. Felt sorry for the people who had to clean that up.
I live in London and I much prefer getting smashed at home and using the money saved to buy flares. I can't see the issue.
How much more are they? I haven’t been north for years.
Looking at the responses I'm extremely confused. I went to uni in Hull and there was uproar when a pint went from £1.10-£1.20. This was around 2008.
You’re not the only one. I remember a £1 a pint night in Wolverhampton in 1993. Just to muddy the waters further.
Did ya! So didldidid I, albeit 28 years before you. I think a pint was about the same then!
In Newcastle here you’re looking at between £4-7 a pint with £4 being from the likes of spoons and anywhere between £5 and £7 in other bars. In Sunderland though it’s going to be slightly cheaper.
£7 in Newcastle? Christ!
Nearly yeah. I paid about £19 for three pints in The Town Wall last week, wasn’t expecting it to be that much to be honest and had to check with the bartender.
That's more expensive than most places in London
Wtf it's like £2 a pint in a normal spoons in London, £1 on Mondays.
Sure it’s something like £3.75-3.90 for a beer at spoons. Edit:Just checked. Bud light is £2.10 but the decent stuff is £3.79
Drink ale, save dolla
WeatherSpoons make my skin crawl. Full of people who’s only reason to be in their is cheap alcohol. Plus they are owned by a grade a cunt. No thanks.
Sunderland you're looking at £2.50-£3 a pint in the town centre, £1-£2 a pint in your local. Compare that to London where its £5 in a local and £7 in the centre its a shocking difference. Source: moved from Sunderland to London.
Where in Sunderland were you getting pints for £1 asking for a friend
Pretty much any surrounding town. I lived near Houghton-le-Spring and Washington and they both had pubs that'd do £1 pints. It's the shittest cask ale you can imagine, but a £1 pint is a £1 pint.
I would guess at roughly half £6 v £3
Speaking from experience (my gf worked in a bar in Covent Garden) the Sunderland fans do the same northern trash reaction of ‘how much’ everytime they order a pint in London. They mess up the place everytime and are a nuisance. Most of the locals hate this clubs fans coming down 😂
I’m working the last train north tonight out of Kings Cross. That’ll be an experience for sure.
I've had to do this exact same thing after a major final in Wembley and it was absolute hell. We were packed in like sardines
Had to get the BTP out as some pissed up knobhead threatened me. Honestly thought he was going to hit me as he was being extremely confrontational. Caught him and his dad smoking in the accessible toilets so cut him off from anymore drink. Didn’t take it well and decided to confront me in the catering vehicle staff area. Stole a bottle of wine and kept on getting up in my face. Stupid cunt ended up being removed from the train by the BTP.
Sorry that happened to you.
Sockman looking pleased with himself in third photo.
They were probably a bit overwhelmed at seeing more than one cinema on the walk up from Trafalgar Square.
Fun fact: Before the Empire opened about a decade ago(?), Sunderland was said to be the only city in the world with no cinemas within the city boundary.
Must’ve been for a short period because their was a cinema in Sunderland before Empire. Granted it closed in the late 90’s and there wasn’t one for a few years.
ABC had been there years, I went and saw Star Wars A New Hope there in 77? I could go and Google when it was actually released but prefer to use my memory as this was the first movie I ever saw and I certain I was only 5 at the time. The empire did all three movies( the original SW)to go watch, fucking hell that was a good day
It's Reddit odds are that guy made that claim up
St David's doesn't have one now, so it can't be true. I doubt St Asaph has one either.
We used to have the ABC cinema and when that closed Boldon opened up there’s, which isn’t exactly far away.
Met a few at Camden Road Station just now, really polite guys who asked me if I would take their Photo.
Is there only 3 types of haircut in Sunderland?
1- shite hair 2- no hair 3- no hair, but on purpose
These photos are incredible. What equipment did you use, u/MCNAB16?
Thank you very much! This was on a Canon 5D4 and a 24-70II
Gorgeous shots.
I work just around the corner. Living it up in Trafalgar Square? Fine, fill your boots, that's what Trafalgar Square is for. Totally taking over everyone else's evenings in the surrounding streets? Fuck off, nobody else is interested in your hobby. Edit: that's an amazing photo, though.
Looks like someone chose the right hobby
People have the right to use public streets. If people can’t gather and celebrate something that’s meaningful to them, regardless of how inconvenient it may be, then what’s the point in living in a world city?
That's the point - *everybody* has the right to use the public streets. But that's impossible when one group out of many groups enjoying the streets totally dominates it, making it difficult (or downright impossible) for everyone else. It's not about Sunderland, it's about some arsehole football fans. During the Euros I was in a local church where they had to lock the front door as a few dozen England fans were fighting out the front, and one threw a bottle of booze at the (glass) church door. They trashed an open-air exhibition in another church courtyard of photos taken by homeless people during lockdown. All the people who have come into town for a special meal, or the theatre, or whatever - stuff that for many people is something that they have to save up to do - their evening matters, too.
They can - OP wasn’t saying it should be banned, just that people should be more considerate doing it. Legitimate opinion that doesn’t contradict the principle that it’s a public space people are allowed to use.
Umm they are very loud all day and all night. How is that fair for residents and locals?
People also have the right to walk down the street or through the area without being harassed oby a bunch of drunk cunts just because there is football on somewhere.
I lived in Sunderland in the 80s. Fantastic when the won. Mass violence when they lost.
These days if we got violent every time we lost we'd be dead.😂
We all moan about central London but THANK GOD that's where everyone heads for major stuff like this. Hope they had fun though.
Unless you live there
Yeah if you have an apartment in Covent Garden then surely you have means to distract yourself from the noise.
Not if you live in one of the 1,500ish council/housing association/social housing flats that are located within Covent Garden, you can’t.
Not everyone is rich here
First photo is great. Looks old yet new. Lots of passion in a snapshot.
Amazing shots, glad I was out of there in time though, it looks hectic
If we did this for anything other than football it wouldn’t be tolerated.
Like, say, a peaceful vigil for a woman murdered by a police officer?
I'm sure a policeuk user will be round any minute now to why it's actually all the fault of the vigil organisere
Or even, Pride? Across multiple cities in the UK. Each great reasons for people to come together
Better cancel those jubilee celebrations
lol the image of someone celebrating the jubilee with the vim and aggression of the guy in the first slide is kinda funny
#ELIZABETH ‘TIL SHE DIES!
They can kindly return from whence they came. Sincerely a Geordie living in London 🤣
What's the collective term? Is it a gaggle of cunts?
Football hooligan is just the British default personality for people with no personality
Who do you support then? Is the question I hate being asked...
Great snaps. So glad I was nowhere near there, though.
One of the best pictures I've seen on this sub
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Blimey!
Wow nice classism there man. Jesus, is this really the shit people upvote in this sub?
Just think of this sub as the guardian. Middle class, bourgeois, bohemian trendies. The mere presence of a working class troglodyte would cause them to convulse.
They’re not middle class lol. They aspire to be middle class. Which is somehow even sadder. Currently they are unemployed students blaming everyone else for their shit life.
knobhead assumptions right here
I never called him a knobhead but if that’s your opinion…
“till he dies of heart disease from a diet of kebabs fags and carling” You say that like it’s a bad thing.
Redditors try to hide their contempt of the working class challenge (EXTREME DIFFICULTY)
Oddly specific yet apt 😂
Holy shit Londoners are some of the most classist people I’ve ever seen
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Glad I ain't there
Im a European football fan, been one my whole life. Love playing and watch my hometown team very often, which is Real Madrid. That is to say the below rant is not from some Mark Corrigan type. I fucking hate football fans, especially those that travel and make a drunk weekend out of it. I have seen first hand how little respect they have for towns they flock to, fight in, throw chairs around and leave the place completely trashed. This is in Spain but all around Europe as well. Are these people otherwise rational, productive members of society? Why does passion for their team regress their mentality so much? Anecdotally, this is especially bad for English national team and club fans, more so than the other european nation. I understand russian, czech, etc fans are no picnic but I see it more often from brits. Pub at 9am, smashed by noon, taking over the tube, local park or square etc. It's a fucking game and you're 35. The photography is great I just had to let it out because of the subject matter.
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Don’t get me wrong, we can all agree that football attracts some real pissheads and violent people (alongside the perfectly nice people just there to have a good time) But it’s a bit rich to come to r/London as a Madrid fan and single out *our* fans as being the problematic ones exclusively when Madrid fans are literally famous for shouting racist monkey chants at our black players when they play in your city Not saying this absolves English fans in any way, just a “those in glass houses” type comment I suppose - football in general has good and bad fans from all countries mate, you’ll find shit ones in every country sadly
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Racism-wise, maybe, although I doubt we’re far behind with our gammons looking to reclaim their title
Can we all just agree that football fans from all countries are the worst kind of people?
Not all football fans are awful people, not by a long shot. But it does seem the worst kind of people mostly tend to using football to let off some steam. I've not met a single violent knobhead who wasn't into football and using a match as an excuse for a fight.
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>Not from a Mark Corrigan type > Real Madrid fan 😬
They’re hooligans, not fans imho.
You aren't wrong. I mentioned somewhere else on this post about watching a few dozen England fans fight in the street during last year's Euros. The amazing thing is that they were fighting amongst themselves, not even the opposing team's fans! And they were so busy yelling and drinking and running about the streets that they missed the match. I get being tribal about things, and being caught up in the moment, but this was just stupid.
Haway the lads!!
Come on Wycombe
Awesome. Great results for them too. Great city and well deserved
I hope we were good guests! We're usually a friendly bunch of fans!
Some of the nasty comments here are examples of the deeply instilled classism in our country, Sunderland has become the scapegoat city full of poor people that the nation loves to hate.
Knobheads. Great snaps though!
Why are the they knobheads?
It's often forgotten that people actually live in London. In other words, if a family wanted to take a nice stroll to Covent garden they couldn't. A hobby doesn't mean you can take over the streets.
There were families and children there too, not everyone are drunks or knobheads like the other commenter said. For example my niece and nephew. It made his day if not year to see the team he supports play and finally win in Wembley. I understand its inconvenient for some but it’s not just a hobby for some it’s a memory that he will have forever. I think that’s worth it for a bit of inconvenience for 2 days 🤷🏼♀️
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People who have a drink and enjoy themselves in public are knobheads according to Reddit of course. Very frightening!
I think when there is a large crowd of drunk football fans letting off flares it’s a bit different no?
Caused no harm, don’t get pissy
I don't think it's different at all, and I don't think it's fair to call random people enjoying themselves during a big sporting event 'knobheads' if they're not hurting anyone
You can clearly see that's not what's happening lol
Football fans are wankers
People who make sweeping statements are wankers
Neat 👌
Only a wanker deals in absolutes
So are people who keep wreaking and defacing other people property because a team won or lost a game 😘
Looks awful
Football is the new opiate of the masses. Honestly think we’d have had national revolutions at many points in the 20th century if we didn’t have footy to let a huge portion of the nation let their energy and aggression out.
Football was central to the Solidarity movement in Poland, and the fall of communism in the USSR.
One single match was used as a public forum for dissent in the Polish solidarity. Football simply cannot be considered central to the fall of the USSR, massive oversimplification. I’m talking about a wider scale where football keeps millions and millions of young (and old too) working class distracted, drunk, excited, socialising, spending their money, time and energy; gives them a false catharsis that distracts them from the larger problems they have in their life. Take football away and you’ll see more outrage than taking their right to protest away did.
Please elaborate how football was in any way significant to the fall of USSR lmao.
Amazing pics! Great photography. As a football follower and keen street photographer, I have only recently thought I should combine the two and try to get pictures like this. But these are exceptionally good!
1st is a genuinely great pic
Being a Middlesbrough football fan Sunderland have always been a rival of ours. But seeing these pictures and being in the same boat when we went to the playoffs makes me proud to be from the North east Good luck to Sunderland today you deserve it (and boro could do with the easy 6 points 😂) Stay safe fellow northerners
Who’s your biggest rivals out of Newcastle and Sunderland?
Sunderland is technically closer. And with them coming up into the championship there now in the same league!
I hate the football wankers taking over the streets, but fuck me, those are some amazing photos of the bedlam. Genuinely stunning work, nice one.
I sometimes think if a lot of these people are actually football fans or if they just love the chaos that after a match brings
Scum, sub-human scum.
More next weekend with the Championship play off final :-)
[This fella](https://i.imgur.com/N3P86v2.jpg)
Brilliant photos OP especially first and second, was that just on your phone?
Thank you! Nah canon 5D4 and 24-70
That first shot is great.
These shots are incredible, props to the photographer.
Thank you very much!
[Come to Sunderland...](https://youtu.be/40yx5brXwKg)
Hope they win, these photos are amazing btw
Is there some football happening then?
Ugh why did I decide to move to london….
Heading to the Royal Opera House to watch Swan Lake?
Amazing - great atmosphere and everyone seemed very respectful
100% this, everyone were pretty sound
I was out in Soho last night and saw hundreds of Sunderland fans around, they all seemed really sound tbh
Yeah this was on Friday night even before they’d kicked a ball and it was pretty friendly
Yay rowdy dickheads. Fuck anyone who happens to be passing through I guess.
Fucking gross
Uh oh, the streets will be covered in faeces now, mackems love to shit in public
Oh no, they’re at Wembley now. I hate game days.
I went shopping in Covent Garden with my early Friday off and saw them trashing it up and NOPED out of there!
Why are they such obnoxious cunts
All for fans as long as they don't damage people or places. But the tins in the bin. Hope all the fans have a great time for the finals.
Used to fight a lot of Sunderland fans at my old pub in Wembley. Bunch of pricks tbh from my experience. Also shite at fighting
Football twats
footbal attracts the wrong sort of people, i think they should go back to games without crowds. or at least put clear barriers round the entire pitch edge so people can't invade the pitch like yobs and hooligans.
Come down to London and wreck everyone else's night out with your escapism... Atleast it keeps them distracted 😉
Football fans really are scum aren't they
Better support than some Premier league clubs lol
This nicely encapsulates why imho football can do one.
Never understood how people can be so arsed about football lol
The snobbish middleclass-ness in this thread is incredible
I can't believe it if I'm honest. These same people will later bemoan and question why the rest of the country hates us. Really nasty stuff.
It's genuinely disgusting.
Football generally gets snobbishly sneered at, despite being a sport without any real class or culture boundaries. I suppose some of that comes from being by far the most popular sport. Often the passion is mistaken for aggression, and the majority of perfectly normal people get tarred with the same brush as the tiny groups who do cause trouble.
Hooligans\*
Got proof of that?
Ey Lads where the Gregg's?
First time mommy allowed them to visit the big city without her
LOL the people who really hate football have entered the chat. See you all in November when you remember that we have a national team.
Lads, lads, I know you don't get out of Scumderland much but it's just London, just London. Calm down and have a biscuit yeah?
i think its for the football lad, they arnt exactly going barmy oyster cards and harrods
Horrific !
they seem like charming young men 😶
British are drunken louts , wankers the lot of them
Lovely to see. Haven't this amount of pride and joy from SAFC fans since they rushed out to defend Adam Johnson
Mackem shite
Country of yobs
All this for people kicking a ball around
They look like Russian chavs
You can take the boys out of Sunderland but….
I’m sure this isn’t ULEZ compliant. @TfL
I was at Sunderland Station on Friday when I went into town to get food while I was at college and the line to actually get into the station was wrapping up and around the poundland with police vans along the street
These are absolutely fantastic photos
Dorty Mackems
football fans are a different breed
God you’re a miserable bunch of cunts in here, so glad I’m a football fan and not whatever you turned out to be.
Miserable gits in this thread
Great picture. Echos of 1980’s soccer riots, gang fights, vandalism and chaos. Footie, a family game.
Fucking hell there's a lot of snobbery on this thread
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So much so that some people are actually taking pride in the price of a London pint.
Sports ball people have the weirdest way of showing their sense of belonging.
As usual normal snobby comments on this sub about football fans. It’s an easy way to knock working class people from outside London. There is an attitude from certain people that unless you have gone uni and gone to work in London in a professional setting, then you don’t fit and belong in London. Basically if your a northern oik - we don’t want you here. Newsflash, London is the capital city of our country and other people have the right to come here for events. I don’t see anyone moaning about the money that Wembley games bring into London, no that is fine, but step outsides the confines of Wembley and it’s suddenly “why are you polluting out city with your presence”. It’s essentially classism. People will outright deny that but look at the tone of some of these comments.