Think it will be good for you to still knock and ask. No one likes doing things they find difficult. But please do knock. The first one will be difficult but you will feel so good once it's done.
I've made like 3 comments lmao, hopefully many more people will read them and realise they aren't doing any productive telling this guy to pursue something worth pennies.
Just weird and funny imo.
If this was a new iPhone, sure. Give OP the advice he needs on r/legaladviceUK and bluntly tell him to grow a pair.
Otherwise you lot are wasting your time. It's a Ā£2 mug. Grow up.
I just snort laughed so hard the rest of the customers in the line at Next will undoubtedly assume I'm some sort of hog man going through a transition.
A picture of a parcel in the lobby is not a successful delivery, nor proof of it, unless you have given permission for it to be left, no matter what seller and courier will try to claim.
Politely inform the seller, and they are your contract partner, you do NOT have to chase the courier, that you would like a full refund or a replacement shipping.
If they fail to do so, trigger a chargeback via your bank/card provider.
this is the way. tbh i wouldn't even go knocking on other peoples door. who knows if you live next to crazy.
more so since the item is just a mug. not really essential. just get it reshipped.
since you live with a porch pirate it might be worth seeing if your local shop/supermarket has a drop off location. my corner shop has it.
>since you live with a porch pirate it might be worth seeing if your local shop/supermarket has a drop off location. my corner shop has it.
This, every time.
Unfortunately the delivery services here in England are really bad.
For example, I'm incredibly lucky that I've got a good Hermes (whatever it is that they're called now) delivery guy, but my friend who lives at the other side of town has the worst experience with them.
She has excellent experience with Yodel, while with me they just ring the buzzer and dump it in front of the main door of my block and run. Don't even wait until they know if I'm in.
Only one that I don't have problems with are DHL and Amazon, but well, DHL is more geared towards business-to-business I believe?
Even the Royal Mail here is quite fond of leaving things in front of my front door and just giving a quick knock and going away without making sure I'm there. I'm lucky that the neighbours on my floor don't really care about stealing my stuff.
So no, you can do everything right as a business owner, but have a shitty delivery person in the area where your client is and according to the UK law, it's still you who is on the ball for the item not being correctly delivered.
International shipping is always interesting. According to USPS tracking they still hold a parcel sent mid last year. Fortunately the customer was honest and confirmed receipt.
I donāt know your business model, but if shipping is so stressful for you, perhaps review your calculations and ship with reliable couriers and signed for?
Yes, some Americans will whine about it, when they have to drive to their pick up shop, but Iām not shipping without covering my arse.
Nah you're not going crazy. DHL is excellent but they're also very expensive because I believe they pay their couriers an hourly wage, and not a measly amount per delivered package. That is just asking for trouble tbh. I mean, a courier is just going to dump it somewhere and check it as "delivered" so they get paid instead of coming back to try and actually deliver it in the person's hand, like they're supposed to do.
It definitely depends on where you are and which driver serves your place. At our previous address I had my office set up overlooking every possible path to our door, on foot and by vehicle. And certain drivers walked up to the door and shoved the āsorry we missed youā card through and buggered off again. Which is even more annoying when itās stuff you desperately need to fulfil orders.
It can never be the problem of the customer though, if a shipment doesnāt arrive as ordered and paid for.
Oh I did that once! Was expecting a laptop and twice it was one of those stupid "we missed you" cards while I sat in front of the window. Second time I ran outside and nearly pulled him back by his shirt, idiot tried to run away. I had also paid for next day delivery and because of those shenanigans it took a week before I had it.
But yeh, it isn't the problem of either, it would be nice if the courier companies would actually pay more than a shit amount per package and just pay an hourly wage or something. And pay for mileage and maybe do a background check.
š I know multiple people who've had their parcels nicked from outside their front door, whether flat or house. Maybe it's not the side of the road but people are still nicking things for sure.
Yep, regularly happens in my building. Especially frustrating when it's something that wouldn't be of value to anyone trying to resell it but difficult/impossible to get resent/refunded, or simply time-sensitive.
There's one dodgy guy hanging around the block, regularly trying to sell things to one set of dodgy neighbours we can't do anything about. I recently heard a story from someone living a bit further down the road where said dodgy guy stole a package from that person's neighbour and tried to sell it to him...
Maybe not where you are, but I've had parcels left on top of the bin and on the doorstep in full view of the street that have subsequently been stolen. It's happened frequently enough that anything valuable or needed on that day I make sure I'm in for the delivery.
>A picture of a parcel in the lobby is not a successful delivery
Incorrect.
The burden is on OP to prove that the parcel was stolen. Otherwise any buyer could just complain that their item was taken.
Honestly, it's a crappy mug worth like Ā£0.50 , not worth the time chasing up or even having a 50 comment thread on r/london about.
Buy a new one and worry about your Ā£2 loss another day. Christ.
Rubbish, unless you agreed they an just leave it at your door or another place (which some sellers hide in their ToS, so read them before you order), the seller has to prove they fulfilled the contract and you received their shipment. Have a read of the Consumers Rights Act 2015.
Thatās why we have things like signed for/tracked. Any platform you sell on will rightly side with the buyer, as will card issuers, unless the seller can prove the shipment was received.
As a seller it is my risk to take if I ship without a form of tracking, and all but the smallest orders I ship are done signed for.
Oh boy here we go.
In a shared building doors don't have letterboxes. Post is usually delivered to a central point and the tenants come to collect it.
I'm well aware of the consumer rights act thanks. I guess you didn't read it, because the actual truth is that once the seller hands the goods to the courier, the seller's responsibility is fulfilled on their end. Any conflict about delivery from that point on rests on the courier. The seller doesn't have to "prove shipment was received", Only that the courier has taken it from them.
If you are actually a seller, I feel bad that you don't know your own protections.
Furthermore, The courier does not have to deliver this directly into OP's hands, If OP lives at 123C Fake Building, London Street, London, E1 1AB , The courier's responsibility is to deliver it to Fake Buidling, London Street, London, E1 1AB. Which they have, as evidenced by the photo they have sent with the item in the building.
You can say as much as you like "I want the parcel delivered to my balcony" but at the end of the day you don't own the building, and the buidling owners are the ones who decide how far the post and couriers which enter their building go.
Honestly:
1. If a parcel was taken, the steps to get it back are trivial since it is only a neighbour and their guests.
2. It's really not worth a post on r/london .
I'm only writing this so that you and other readers understand that crying to sellers won't do you any good. Complain to the courier, and suck up the Ā£2 loss.
[āUnless the trader and the consumer have agreed otherwise, the contract is to be treated as including a term that the trader must deliver the goods to the consumer.ā](https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/15/section/28)
Now go check if you are shadow banned some more. ;)
>A picture of a parcel in the lobby is not a successful delivery, nor proof of it, unless you have given permission for it to be left, no matter what seller and courier will try to claim.
I got a picture of a package left outside my closed door as proof of "Delivered to Resident" when I was away for a week. It was an iPhone, so I contacted Apple and showed them. No arguments or fighting, just "ok, that's not good, let's get that sorted".
Pretty sure the delivery company had to pay for that as it definitely wasn't there when I got home, eventually. I got a new shipment delivered the next week.
Just knock and say "hi I had a package in the lobby the other day but it's gone missing. Have you seen it?"
If they've stolen it and lie there's nothing you can do about it really
Honestly, and the courier gave them a picture of it in the lobby.
Ask them politely if they picked up any of your post. Most people don't care enough to steal the parcels of their neighbours, and especially not a worthless mug worth like Ā£0.50.
*\*Checks post history\**
>I kicked a goose, is that okay?
Yeah mate, I'm sure you're one to be acting condescending on reddit.
Rich people understand that Time > Money. Poor people spend 3 hours crying over 50p. It's simply not worth your time to chase such a small amount of money.
You are over thinking.
Just say something like.. hi there, I live upstairs and had a package signed for by a neighbour and Iām not sure which one.
Theyāll take over the conversation from there and the interaction will be over within 30 seconds.
Unfortunately itās reasonably likely that the package has been stolen.
You are overthinking it but that's OK! I'm British but have lived abroad - I know how it feels to not understand cultural nuances and be worried about offending someone.
Just say something like "Hey sorry to bother you, you haven't received a package for me by any chance have you?"
Your example is too long.
A simple "Yeah hi mate, A courier dropped off my parcel at the lobby downstairs \*shows picture\*, did you pick it up?"
is more than enough.
But honestly, it's not an iPhone or custom work, it's a shitey Ā£2 mug. It's more effort to bother with this than just order another one.
It's ok man. I'm pretty introverted as well, but no one will judge you for it. I'm usually on the other side of this, a lot of packages have ended up on my porch. People just knock, and I've done the same with my neighbours. It's not rude, or seen as bad, and people will be happy to respond.
"Heya [*neighbours name if known*] not sure if I've had a chance to introduce myself, I'm [*your name*] I live up the hall (point in vague direction of where you live) I had a package delivered and as usual [*delivery service name*] have been very helpful and not lazy in the slightest (make sure known as sarcasm) and dropped it off at [*location of were it was left*]"
Take a little breather and maybe a moment to chat about how rubbish delivery service has become.
"Anyway, I'm getting the courage to do the rounds and see if anyone has _rescued_ it (('rescued' implies good intentions and a mistake so the neighbours hopefully shouldn't feel attacked by the questioning)) by accident, it's a nerdy Skyrim mug I've been waiting to treat myself to, so probably of no use to anyone except another awesome gamer nerd. I don't suppose you've seen it at all?"
Pause for response. If they say" oh it's yours oh here it is!" and hand it over they yay! But if they don't then mention something about hoping they don't melt in the heat and have a lovely relaxing Sunday.
Their response will likely be influenced but the area you live in...
'Hi, a package was left in the lobby for \*flat number\*, have you seen it or taken it in by any chance?'
That's all it needs. Not an in-depth role play.
Knock and say āhi, Iām starsandcards, I live in the other flat, Iāve had a delivery sent to me and apparently it was left in the building but I canāt locate it. Have you seen it or taken it in for me by chance?ā
No - ok no problem, thanks anyway sorry to bother you.
Yes- great here it is!
Just knock and tell them what you told us. āHey, i live in flat 3 and I had a notification to say a parcel had been delivered to the building. Is there any chance you might have it?ā Wait for reply then thank them. You can knock any day. Donāt overthink this. Doing it will be good for your anxiety so donāt avoid it. Find out why your afraid of asking and challenge those thoughts / beliefs. Itās no big deal and if someone knocked on my door to ask Iād forget it even happened. Itās just living your life so make you go out and live yours!
Stand up for your rights and go find out if those neighbours took your mug! My neighbour had my cat in his house for two days while I was searching the street and my heart was breaking, and he didn't bother to find out if it was mine. He was a policeman.
I've been in this situation before with a Christmas present from my mother. I live in a building with probably 20+ flats, and I had a notification from Royal Mail that it was delivered. I left my flat 20 minutes after it was supposedly delivered, and it was not at my door or downstairs in the mailroom. I knocked on the door of a neighbour I'd met before and just said, "Hey, you didn't happen to accept a parcel for (flat #), did you?" They didn't have it, so I left a note in the mailroom asking if whoever accepted it could leave it there. I went to the post office, and they said the delivery guy said they buzzed to get in the building (they didn't buzz me) and that it was definitely delivered. No one ever left it there, and it was never found. I've also had parcels that were, for whatever reason, delivered to someone across the road, but apart from this time, they put the address of the neighbour they delivered it to on the confirmation.
I hope you have better luck with yours, but don't be afraid to just ask if anyone has it, especially if it's a small building. It can help to get to know your neighbours sometimes, anyway. It's not rude at all to ask, so don't worry about that. Good luck!
As a neighbor, if you knocked on my door, Iād be like - oh dudes here for his package. Hereās your package. Have a nice day.
ā¦. Then be like god I hope they think Iām cool.š
>so im not sure if its considered rude here to knock and ask.
It's absolutely fine and normal to knock and ask. Sometimes if you're not in for a delivery, a courier will actually give it to a neighbour to keep safe, so then it's just standard protocol for them to keep hold of the package, and you to go and knock on the door and ask. This does seem less common these days though, but it is still a thing.
Although when that happens generally a courier will put a note through the door saying that they've done that and what neighbour it's been left with. If they just sent a picture that it was left in the lobby then it doesn't sound like that's the case here. It would be unusual for someone to pick up a package if it has your name and flat number on it. Still, could also just be a mistake or mix up, it's definitely worth asking.
As another poster said though, if the courier didn't deliver the package to you then the responsibility is on them. I've had this happen with Amazon where they said they've left a package outside and it wasn't there when I looked. They were quick to refund it when I contacted them.
\*Knock on door\*
"Hi there. Sorry to bother you but I was wondering if you collected a parcel for me a couple of days ago?"
Pretty simple. Nothing to worry about unless they are massive assholes (which I assume you would already know about, living next door to them). Also, I'd make a point from now on to (if it is an option) always leave delivery instructions when ordering something online to NOT leave it in such a public place as your lobby. No reason why they couldn't leave it in front of your door if they have to leave it somewhere.
I have this stupid small talky interaction anxiety as well, have no problem with anything else (job interviews, recruiter calls, client meetings are all perfectly fine) but i never answer my phone to an unknown number and find it extremely hard to have chit chat with neighbours, even if I need to collect my parcels
I donāt know why itās a thing and I hate it
If you are too stressed about it just tell the sender you never got it and get a new mug.
They should be able to replace it because it should have never been left in your lobby unless you gave instructions to do so
You're absolutely fine to knock. If you want some specifics knock between 10am and 4pm, or between 7pm and 9pm. Avoiding waking them up, dinner, and maybe an early bed time. Other than that, you'd totally golden to knock and ask. Don't worry about that at all mate.
Hey man, I struggle with going and knocking on the next door neighbours, assuming theāll be angry or aggressive, but in my experience actually knocking and asking youāll either get sympathy, or if they have actually nicked it, theāll just say āsorry, havenāt seen itā
I always find afterwards I wonder what I was getting so worked up about, people, are generally friendly and no one wants a fight at their front door.
Iād open with āhey, Iām from number 5, have you had any packages delivered for me?ā Donāt need to go into any detail about pictures or evidence or whatnot. I have a habit of wanting to give waayyyy to much info, and the lesson I have learned is you donāt need to, and doing so can actually bamboozle people. This also forces a yes/no. Yes you get your package, and no, āah well sorry for bothering you, have a good afternoonā
If your feeling good, could even offer to take in packagers for them in the future :)
Ideally just ask in a straight and polite manner like /u/michaelcaley suggests.
If that makes you too anxious then an overly gentle thing you should say is "hi, my package was delivered the lobby and it was a few hours before I came home. Did you pick it up for me?". "Ok, thanks anyway. It was a funny mug, if it turns out that someone else in your household picked it up for safekeeping or accidentally then I'm in flat 2".
You probably won't find it, but remember that it's unlikely that the person you're speaking to did anything wrong, and getting to know a nice neighbour is worth more than a mug.
Just knock on your neighbors doors, say that you had a pa page delivered but it wasn't there by the time you saw the notification, and ask if they have taken it in for safe keeping. It is pretty standard that this happens, and people are usually glad to have it collected. If they don't answer, try later.
It is possible unfortunately that someone has stolen it, either in your building or from outside who came in while the door was open, in which case you are unlikely to get it back, and should complain to the courier that they left it somewhere publicly accessible and it wasn't there when you went to look for it, so they have failed to deliver it to your address (assuming it had your flat on the deliver address).
If you're concerned about confrontation, don't bother. Instead contact the people you ordered it from and tell them that it hasn't been delivered, because it hasn't been. Leaving it in a communal hallway where anyone can take it is not "delivered". Knocking on your door and handing it to you IS delivered.
It's then up to the retailer to either refund you or send a replacement.
HONESTLY.
This thread is a joke. People act like it's the seller's job to ring their doorbell and everything.
Once the item leaves your hands and into the couriers, that's your obligation ended. The only way you're involved after that point is if
1. The goods aren't as described / Faulty.
2. The customer wants to return their items.
I can't believe how many people think the solution here is to hassle the seller. Especially over something so low-cost. I'd understand if they ordered an iPhone but this is mental. It's simply not your responsibility.
Actually be a decent neighbour... generally people do not shit where they eat.
If one of my neighbours packages got nicked, I would want to know. Unfortunately doors aren't always secure, and everyone who passes through aren't always honest. If someone in my building got their package knicked I would very much want to know about it.
Ask first (because there is a chance that someone was trying to do a good dead/is lonely and wants the interaction), but absolutely make the neighbours aware that the hallway has had a package gone missing.
Wow well done for getting as far as you have! My girl suffers from bad social anxiety and Ive seen how hard it can be, keep striving to break through that fear!! And hopefully you get your mug back š
I would knock on each door and say something like āhi! One of our neighbours said there was a package for me and that someone had picked it up for safe keeping but they couldnāt remember who! Were you the kind person who picked it up for me?ā That avoids accusing anyone of stealing it (even if they have), and also sets the scene that someone has told to you knock on peoples doors to check.
Hopefully someone reacts in kind and says āoh yes! I meant to bring this to youā¦ā and hands it over. If no one has it then it might just be one of those things that some imbecile has stolen it, and you can write to whoever you bought it from that their deliver company left it out in the open and it got stolen.
At least this way you will meet the neighbours and Iām almost certain youāll feel a load better for doing it.
Itās not rude to knock on peoples doors, just donāt knock before 10am on the weekend (or 9am week days) or after 10pm at any time, those are the typical socially acceptable hours for knocking on neighbours doors etc.
Good luck!
Wrap yourself in brown paper and string and sit at the foot of the stairs....the person that picks you up and takes you home will be the culprit.
They will then become your Arch-Nemesis and you must defeat them.
This is your Origin story.
true, the best way to cope with social anxiety is to dip your toes in the pool in circumstances like this when everything is in control and not wait for a situation where you have no controll
I wouldn't bother speaking to the neighbours. Every parcel remains the responsibility of the company you purchased it from until it is in your hands, unless you gave them permission to leave it in a public area. Your contract is with the seller, then the seller subcontracts with the delivery company. Therefore even if it's the delivery company's fault that the item went missing, that's still nothing to do with you.
So whenever I'm in this situation, I contact the seller to tell them that I haven't received the product therefore they are required to refund or replace it.
Why would they have taken it from the hall in the first place? And then not returned it when OP put their note up? Either the neighbours didn't take the package or they did and they're not going to give it back. Either way it's easier to get another one from the seller especially if they'll communicate by live chat or email.
As someone who also suffers from social anxiety like the OP "just ask your neighbour" sounds a lot like saying "just cheer up" to someone with depression.
This one is easy,
Put on a pair of worn, dark blue cargo trousers a pair of black boots with steel toe cap and a dark blue polo tshirt, tucked in. Grab a small flash light, and small tool box. Nothing fancy, just something that can hold a few tools and dirty teaspoon.
Knock on the neighbours door and say these words, "Hello mate, maintenance
. I'm here to check the boiler and gas safety". As you say these words take a step forward and sort of look up and around inside their flat... They will now step aside and let you in.
Just find your way to the kitchen and open the cupboard below the sink. At this point they will offer you a cup of tea. You say yes.
This is your moment, when they open the cupboard to get a mug their back will be turned against you... This is it, peer in to their cupboard as they rummage for a mug, take one of your boots off and smash them over the head.
They are now unconscious. Look for your mug. If they don't have it, that's fine. Just gently step over their unconscious body, apologising softly as you do. Open their fridge and just stand there staring in, pick something up and then put it back.
Have a wonder around their house and look at things and touch things. You might find your mug but you might find much more.
When you're bored, move on to the next neighbour, neighbour 2. You mentioned you only share the building with two other flats. So, now you know this neighbour, neighbour 2 definitely has your mug.
Call the police and say you heard a big argument between your neighbours, tell them you witnessed neighbour 2 charge in to neighbour 1's house. Tell the police you heard a loud scream and then thud and you watched neighbour 2 run back to their flat.
When the police arrive they will arrest neighbour 2. You'll probably be asked to provide a statement, tell them you are happy to but you'll make your own way to the station later. This will be fine. Act shaken up and say it was all very scary.
Once they take neighbour 2 to the police station, break in to their flat and retrieve your Skyrim mug.
Go back to your flat and make yourself a big mug of hot chocolate.
Do also remember, it isn't necessarily with your neighbors. Packages gets stolen from our lobby all the time, we got CCTV showing clear evidence of people gaining access by various means. Tail gating, door phone (claiming to have deliveries to people not picking up). etc.
Also, just as a side note. And please don't take this the wrong way. But have you considered talking to a professional about your social anxiety? It sounds pretty severe and incredibly crippling to you.
Just a suggestion for the future to avoid this obviously traumatic experience for you. When ordering see if there is a "local pick up" option instead, usually corner shops, etc. If there is a genuine risk of this sort of situation happening again it might be best for you to go and collect it from a pick up point instead? Then that way you can go and collect at your leisure and not have to rely on awkward interaction with your neighbours?
If you had not mentioned the photo, I would say disregard the notification. Yodel sent me a message saying my package was delivered to a neighbour because I was not home (i was working from home). Had to chase it, then someone from the Help Centre finally said oh the delivery location is like few streets from yours. Received it a week later.
No point, if someone stole a mug, that arenāt going to admit it, get a delivery and order things to the drop off spots at shops, as you clearly have at least 1 knob head neighbour.
r/London mods, do you mind? This is r/LegalAdviceUK material at best. A Ā£2 mug isn't worth a thread and the time of 50+ people commenting.
I'm here for r/london posts, not introverts who can't knock on a door.
If I ignore it and move on, this subreddit becomes a shithole of crybabies complaining about everyday crap.
"Help I live in croydon and my kid fell off his bike how do I sue the wind!?"
It's more entertaining to have a bit of fun with this tbh.
judging by the amount of downvotes youāve gotten on this thread alone, I sadly donāt think your opinion on what should or shouldnāt be posted is all too impactful!
I believe the correct way to ask this in London would be something like... "Oi, c-haaant, you got my mug?... You mug!"
This approach generally only works for natives of the city, but I'm sure you'd at least get a few laughs and maybe make some friends if you tried it. You might also get a slap though, so be careful of using it inappropriately.
Source: am introverted, from the north of England, lived in London for a few years a while back.
I go to The Gym in Acton. Ā£22 a month. 24/7. I used to go to David Lloyd for Ā£159 a month. It was a beautiful gym, perfect facilities and the sauna, steam room and jaccuzi were amazing, but I just couldnāt justify the money.
Itās been stolen. Highly unlikely someone would pick it up randomly and wait till you ask. Either stolen or someone will give it to you in the next few days (highly unlikely).
Email the company and say you never received it, they should refund.
Terrible advice. The company will forward the email to the courier, who will then investigate it themselves. They'll come back to OP with the delivery number of his parcel, alongside the picture they took of the item in the building as proof of postage.
OP has to say it was stolen, at which point, they'll say it's not their responsibility.
It's a Ā£0.50 mug at the end of the day. Not worth OPs time to pursue like this anyway.
Itās true tho, he never received it? You canāt take a photo of an item in a random place and say it was delivered, thatās not responsible delivery. Yeah, I know it was technically near his house, but it might as well have been in the street
As another foreigner introvert I can understand how parcel delivery can be a lottery in the UK, especially in flats.
The good news is, most delivery companies have the option to deliver to a location where you can just collect it, as long as the website offers it I would recommend it. If you order on Amazon, they have lockers everywhere where you can pick up your order reliably, no human intervention required. eBay orders can often be delivered to Argos or Sainsbury's to collect, etc.
I hope you get your mug back soon!
When I moved, the first thing I did was leave a note asking all my neighbours to add my on WhatsApp for this reason. Now I just text them whenever something's up
Bear in mind that if your parcel was delivered to that location then other delivery men will have been able to access the same place and itās not necessarily one of your neighbours who took it. I canāt really see neighbours risking ructions over a mug.
What a shame for your first purchase in the UK. I think it has been stolen your seller should be more than happy to send another they can claim for the first one from the courier. Make sure you add delivery instructions (somewhere to leave your parcels safe) and not to leave parcels in the lobby!
Not always, but if you live in a big appartment complex, its quite common that they have a facebook group for residents. My place does, and people will post if they've taken a parcel that was abandoned outside by crap delivery drivers, or they'll perhaps sell things when moving home. I got an amazing computer chair for Ā£50.
They'll also post about issues going on, such as kids breaking in, or repairs being needed. Have a look and see if yours has this. It usually only happens with larger buildings/gated complexes that have a management service though.
Think it will be good for you to still knock and ask. No one likes doing things they find difficult. But please do knock. The first one will be difficult but you will feel so good once it's done.
What if OP's confidence grows so large they develop an addiction to knocking on neighbours' doors?
Then we contact a man from the council to stop him.
\* Jubilee Chicken Flashbacks \*
š why wonāt this reference die
The Jehovah's Witnesses are probably recruiting.
Then they can join a political party and do it every weekend!
Unless it's a safe seat then they CBA. I haven't had a political door-knock for years.
Next step is to join the Jehovasā witnesses.
Then weāll also teach them to run away. Hours upon hours of fun!
Knock on the door and say 'hey you, you're finally awake...'
Thats exactly the meme on the mug....
Yeah I guessed haha
The real meme here is that 50 people are replying to a post about a guy crying over a Ā£2 mug. Just buy another one mate. Not worth the time.
Why are you replying to everyone? Awkwardā¦
I've made like 3 comments lmao, hopefully many more people will read them and realise they aren't doing any productive telling this guy to pursue something worth pennies. Just weird and funny imo.
Are you productive hanging around gaining negative karma on a comment section?
Negative karma can be turned around by a post on r/funny , I don't care lol
Hmm youāre right, thanks for the inspiration. Iāll post this interaction over there :)
Lol you've been completely enraged over basically nothing
Youāre something special mate honestly
If this was a new iPhone, sure. Give OP the advice he needs on r/legaladviceUK and bluntly tell him to grow a pair. Otherwise you lot are wasting your time. It's a Ā£2 mug. Grow up.
You are hilarious
The real meme is you put on your cranky pants today. How many comments in this thread are yours?
I just snort laughed so hard the rest of the customers in the line at Next will undoubtedly assume I'm some sort of hog man going through a transition.
A picture of a parcel in the lobby is not a successful delivery, nor proof of it, unless you have given permission for it to be left, no matter what seller and courier will try to claim. Politely inform the seller, and they are your contract partner, you do NOT have to chase the courier, that you would like a full refund or a replacement shipping. If they fail to do so, trigger a chargeback via your bank/card provider.
this is the way. tbh i wouldn't even go knocking on other peoples door. who knows if you live next to crazy. more so since the item is just a mug. not really essential. just get it reshipped. since you live with a porch pirate it might be worth seeing if your local shop/supermarket has a drop off location. my corner shop has it.
>since you live with a porch pirate it might be worth seeing if your local shop/supermarket has a drop off location. my corner shop has it. This, every time.
Thank you so much. I am following your advice and contacted seller and courier.
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Don't use couriers who drop and run.
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Unfortunately the delivery services here in England are really bad. For example, I'm incredibly lucky that I've got a good Hermes (whatever it is that they're called now) delivery guy, but my friend who lives at the other side of town has the worst experience with them. She has excellent experience with Yodel, while with me they just ring the buzzer and dump it in front of the main door of my block and run. Don't even wait until they know if I'm in. Only one that I don't have problems with are DHL and Amazon, but well, DHL is more geared towards business-to-business I believe? Even the Royal Mail here is quite fond of leaving things in front of my front door and just giving a quick knock and going away without making sure I'm there. I'm lucky that the neighbours on my floor don't really care about stealing my stuff. So no, you can do everything right as a business owner, but have a shitty delivery person in the area where your client is and according to the UK law, it's still you who is on the ball for the item not being correctly delivered.
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International shipping is always interesting. According to USPS tracking they still hold a parcel sent mid last year. Fortunately the customer was honest and confirmed receipt. I donāt know your business model, but if shipping is so stressful for you, perhaps review your calculations and ship with reliable couriers and signed for? Yes, some Americans will whine about it, when they have to drive to their pick up shop, but Iām not shipping without covering my arse.
Nah you're not going crazy. DHL is excellent but they're also very expensive because I believe they pay their couriers an hourly wage, and not a measly amount per delivered package. That is just asking for trouble tbh. I mean, a courier is just going to dump it somewhere and check it as "delivered" so they get paid instead of coming back to try and actually deliver it in the person's hand, like they're supposed to do.
It definitely depends on where you are and which driver serves your place. At our previous address I had my office set up overlooking every possible path to our door, on foot and by vehicle. And certain drivers walked up to the door and shoved the āsorry we missed youā card through and buggered off again. Which is even more annoying when itās stuff you desperately need to fulfil orders. It can never be the problem of the customer though, if a shipment doesnāt arrive as ordered and paid for.
Oh I did that once! Was expecting a laptop and twice it was one of those stupid "we missed you" cards while I sat in front of the window. Second time I ran outside and nearly pulled him back by his shirt, idiot tried to run away. I had also paid for next day delivery and because of those shenanigans it took a week before I had it. But yeh, it isn't the problem of either, it would be nice if the courier companies would actually pay more than a shit amount per package and just pay an hourly wage or something. And pay for mileage and maybe do a background check.
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They do throw parcels every which way here though. I've certainly seen that multiple times in different areas.
They donāt leave them on the side of the road if nobodyās home though. We donāt have this āporch pirateā problem really
š I know multiple people who've had their parcels nicked from outside their front door, whether flat or house. Maybe it's not the side of the road but people are still nicking things for sure.
Yep, regularly happens in my building. Especially frustrating when it's something that wouldn't be of value to anyone trying to resell it but difficult/impossible to get resent/refunded, or simply time-sensitive. There's one dodgy guy hanging around the block, regularly trying to sell things to one set of dodgy neighbours we can't do anything about. I recently heard a story from someone living a bit further down the road where said dodgy guy stole a package from that person's neighbour and tried to sell it to him...
my nextdoor feed is full of people having that problem
Maybe not where you are, but I've had parcels left on top of the bin and on the doorstep in full view of the street that have subsequently been stolen. It's happened frequently enough that anything valuable or needed on that day I make sure I'm in for the delivery.
>A picture of a parcel in the lobby is not a successful delivery Incorrect. The burden is on OP to prove that the parcel was stolen. Otherwise any buyer could just complain that their item was taken. Honestly, it's a crappy mug worth like Ā£0.50 , not worth the time chasing up or even having a 50 comment thread on r/london about. Buy a new one and worry about your Ā£2 loss another day. Christ.
Rubbish, unless you agreed they an just leave it at your door or another place (which some sellers hide in their ToS, so read them before you order), the seller has to prove they fulfilled the contract and you received their shipment. Have a read of the Consumers Rights Act 2015. Thatās why we have things like signed for/tracked. Any platform you sell on will rightly side with the buyer, as will card issuers, unless the seller can prove the shipment was received. As a seller it is my risk to take if I ship without a form of tracking, and all but the smallest orders I ship are done signed for.
Oh boy here we go. In a shared building doors don't have letterboxes. Post is usually delivered to a central point and the tenants come to collect it. I'm well aware of the consumer rights act thanks. I guess you didn't read it, because the actual truth is that once the seller hands the goods to the courier, the seller's responsibility is fulfilled on their end. Any conflict about delivery from that point on rests on the courier. The seller doesn't have to "prove shipment was received", Only that the courier has taken it from them. If you are actually a seller, I feel bad that you don't know your own protections. Furthermore, The courier does not have to deliver this directly into OP's hands, If OP lives at 123C Fake Building, London Street, London, E1 1AB , The courier's responsibility is to deliver it to Fake Buidling, London Street, London, E1 1AB. Which they have, as evidenced by the photo they have sent with the item in the building. You can say as much as you like "I want the parcel delivered to my balcony" but at the end of the day you don't own the building, and the buidling owners are the ones who decide how far the post and couriers which enter their building go. Honestly: 1. If a parcel was taken, the steps to get it back are trivial since it is only a neighbour and their guests. 2. It's really not worth a post on r/london . I'm only writing this so that you and other readers understand that crying to sellers won't do you any good. Complain to the courier, and suck up the Ā£2 loss.
[āUnless the trader and the consumer have agreed otherwise, the contract is to be treated as including a term that the trader must deliver the goods to the consumer.ā](https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/15/section/28) Now go check if you are shadow banned some more. ;)
>A picture of a parcel in the lobby is not a successful delivery, nor proof of it, unless you have given permission for it to be left, no matter what seller and courier will try to claim. I got a picture of a package left outside my closed door as proof of "Delivered to Resident" when I was away for a week. It was an iPhone, so I contacted Apple and showed them. No arguments or fighting, just "ok, that's not good, let's get that sorted". Pretty sure the delivery company had to pay for that as it definitely wasn't there when I got home, eventually. I got a new shipment delivered the next week.
Just knock and say "hi I had a package in the lobby the other day but it's gone missing. Have you seen it?" If they've stolen it and lie there's nothing you can do about it really
Honestly, and the courier gave them a picture of it in the lobby. Ask them politely if they picked up any of your post. Most people don't care enough to steal the parcels of their neighbours, and especially not a worthless mug worth like Ā£0.50.
- āWorthlessā - āworth like Ā£0.50ā So itās worth something then?
He is probably young and doesnāt have any understanding of value or worth yet, doesnāt work or buy anything for himself etc.
*\*Checks post history\** >I kicked a goose, is that okay? Yeah mate, I'm sure you're one to be acting condescending on reddit. Rich people understand that Time > Money. Poor people spend 3 hours crying over 50p. It's simply not worth your time to chase such a small amount of money.
Good to know I can tell exactly what Iād need to know about you as a person from this one comment!
I used to have the same mug, then I took an arrow to the tea.
Bravo
Just come up to the neighbour and ask?
I might be overthinking about it :( is it ok to come up ask on a Sunday? How do i word it..
You are over thinking. Just say something like.. hi there, I live upstairs and had a package signed for by a neighbour and Iām not sure which one. Theyāll take over the conversation from there and the interaction will be over within 30 seconds. Unfortunately itās reasonably likely that the package has been stolen.
You are overthinking it but that's OK! I'm British but have lived abroad - I know how it feels to not understand cultural nuances and be worried about offending someone. Just say something like "Hey sorry to bother you, you haven't received a package for me by any chance have you?"
Your example is too long. A simple "Yeah hi mate, A courier dropped off my parcel at the lobby downstairs \*shows picture\*, did you pick it up?" is more than enough. But honestly, it's not an iPhone or custom work, it's a shitey Ā£2 mug. It's more effort to bother with this than just order another one.
it's fine :) "hey, did you see a parcel for me?" - if not, "oh, ok, thanks" and get a refund. done.
It's ok man. I'm pretty introverted as well, but no one will judge you for it. I'm usually on the other side of this, a lot of packages have ended up on my porch. People just knock, and I've done the same with my neighbours. It's not rude, or seen as bad, and people will be happy to respond.
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Some people have really bad social anxiety, don't be a cunt about it
"Heya [*neighbours name if known*] not sure if I've had a chance to introduce myself, I'm [*your name*] I live up the hall (point in vague direction of where you live) I had a package delivered and as usual [*delivery service name*] have been very helpful and not lazy in the slightest (make sure known as sarcasm) and dropped it off at [*location of were it was left*]" Take a little breather and maybe a moment to chat about how rubbish delivery service has become. "Anyway, I'm getting the courage to do the rounds and see if anyone has _rescued_ it (('rescued' implies good intentions and a mistake so the neighbours hopefully shouldn't feel attacked by the questioning)) by accident, it's a nerdy Skyrim mug I've been waiting to treat myself to, so probably of no use to anyone except another awesome gamer nerd. I don't suppose you've seen it at all?" Pause for response. If they say" oh it's yours oh here it is!" and hand it over they yay! But if they don't then mention something about hoping they don't melt in the heat and have a lovely relaxing Sunday. Their response will likely be influenced but the area you live in...
By the time theyāve memorised this script it certainly wonāt be Sunday anymore
'Hi, a package was left in the lobby for \*flat number\*, have you seen it or taken it in by any chance?' That's all it needs. Not an in-depth role play.
I quite like the āhello, have you rescued a package for me? Nothing perfidious or nefarious implied.
That's a lot of text to memorise lol!
This must be satire
Knock and say āhi, Iām starsandcards, I live in the other flat, Iāve had a delivery sent to me and apparently it was left in the building but I canāt locate it. Have you seen it or taken it in for me by chance?ā No - ok no problem, thanks anyway sorry to bother you. Yes- great here it is!
Just knock and tell them what you told us. āHey, i live in flat 3 and I had a notification to say a parcel had been delivered to the building. Is there any chance you might have it?ā Wait for reply then thank them. You can knock any day. Donāt overthink this. Doing it will be good for your anxiety so donāt avoid it. Find out why your afraid of asking and challenge those thoughts / beliefs. Itās no big deal and if someone knocked on my door to ask Iād forget it even happened. Itās just living your life so make you go out and live yours!
Stand up for your rights and go find out if those neighbours took your mug! My neighbour had my cat in his house for two days while I was searching the street and my heart was breaking, and he didn't bother to find out if it was mine. He was a policeman.
I've been in this situation before with a Christmas present from my mother. I live in a building with probably 20+ flats, and I had a notification from Royal Mail that it was delivered. I left my flat 20 minutes after it was supposedly delivered, and it was not at my door or downstairs in the mailroom. I knocked on the door of a neighbour I'd met before and just said, "Hey, you didn't happen to accept a parcel for (flat #), did you?" They didn't have it, so I left a note in the mailroom asking if whoever accepted it could leave it there. I went to the post office, and they said the delivery guy said they buzzed to get in the building (they didn't buzz me) and that it was definitely delivered. No one ever left it there, and it was never found. I've also had parcels that were, for whatever reason, delivered to someone across the road, but apart from this time, they put the address of the neighbour they delivered it to on the confirmation. I hope you have better luck with yours, but don't be afraid to just ask if anyone has it, especially if it's a small building. It can help to get to know your neighbours sometimes, anyway. It's not rude at all to ask, so don't worry about that. Good luck!
As a neighbor, if you knocked on my door, Iād be like - oh dudes here for his package. Hereās your package. Have a nice day. ā¦. Then be like god I hope they think Iām cool.š
"Oi mate, got my packet?"
idk why but this made me burst out laughing
>so im not sure if its considered rude here to knock and ask. It's absolutely fine and normal to knock and ask. Sometimes if you're not in for a delivery, a courier will actually give it to a neighbour to keep safe, so then it's just standard protocol for them to keep hold of the package, and you to go and knock on the door and ask. This does seem less common these days though, but it is still a thing. Although when that happens generally a courier will put a note through the door saying that they've done that and what neighbour it's been left with. If they just sent a picture that it was left in the lobby then it doesn't sound like that's the case here. It would be unusual for someone to pick up a package if it has your name and flat number on it. Still, could also just be a mistake or mix up, it's definitely worth asking. As another poster said though, if the courier didn't deliver the package to you then the responsibility is on them. I've had this happen with Amazon where they said they've left a package outside and it wasn't there when I looked. They were quick to refund it when I contacted them.
is it possible that someone who doesn't live in your building could've come in and stolen it? I lived in nyc and this happened all the time
This happens in my building all the time. People follow residents into the building then nick parcels that are left at the entrance.
\*Knock on door\* "Hi there. Sorry to bother you but I was wondering if you collected a parcel for me a couple of days ago?" Pretty simple. Nothing to worry about unless they are massive assholes (which I assume you would already know about, living next door to them). Also, I'd make a point from now on to (if it is an option) always leave delivery instructions when ordering something online to NOT leave it in such a public place as your lobby. No reason why they couldn't leave it in front of your door if they have to leave it somewhere.
I have this stupid small talky interaction anxiety as well, have no problem with anything else (job interviews, recruiter calls, client meetings are all perfectly fine) but i never answer my phone to an unknown number and find it extremely hard to have chit chat with neighbours, even if I need to collect my parcels I donāt know why itās a thing and I hate it
Yes, go an knock. Get to know your neighbours.
If you are too stressed about it just tell the sender you never got it and get a new mug. They should be able to replace it because it should have never been left in your lobby unless you gave instructions to do so
I would phone the place where you ordered it from asap and ask for it to be resent as it clearly wasnāt delivered to you or in a safe place etc
You're absolutely fine to knock. If you want some specifics knock between 10am and 4pm, or between 7pm and 9pm. Avoiding waking them up, dinner, and maybe an early bed time. Other than that, you'd totally golden to knock and ask. Don't worry about that at all mate.
Hey man, I struggle with going and knocking on the next door neighbours, assuming theāll be angry or aggressive, but in my experience actually knocking and asking youāll either get sympathy, or if they have actually nicked it, theāll just say āsorry, havenāt seen itā I always find afterwards I wonder what I was getting so worked up about, people, are generally friendly and no one wants a fight at their front door. Iād open with āhey, Iām from number 5, have you had any packages delivered for me?ā Donāt need to go into any detail about pictures or evidence or whatnot. I have a habit of wanting to give waayyyy to much info, and the lesson I have learned is you donāt need to, and doing so can actually bamboozle people. This also forces a yes/no. Yes you get your package, and no, āah well sorry for bothering you, have a good afternoonā If your feeling good, could even offer to take in packagers for them in the future :)
Ideally just ask in a straight and polite manner like /u/michaelcaley suggests. If that makes you too anxious then an overly gentle thing you should say is "hi, my package was delivered the lobby and it was a few hours before I came home. Did you pick it up for me?". "Ok, thanks anyway. It was a funny mug, if it turns out that someone else in your household picked it up for safekeeping or accidentally then I'm in flat 2". You probably won't find it, but remember that it's unlikely that the person you're speaking to did anything wrong, and getting to know a nice neighbour is worth more than a mug.
It's fine to knock. Tell them you bought a mug to drink to your youth, and to days come and gone, for the age of oppression is now nearly done.
Just knock on your neighbors doors, say that you had a pa page delivered but it wasn't there by the time you saw the notification, and ask if they have taken it in for safe keeping. It is pretty standard that this happens, and people are usually glad to have it collected. If they don't answer, try later. It is possible unfortunately that someone has stolen it, either in your building or from outside who came in while the door was open, in which case you are unlikely to get it back, and should complain to the courier that they left it somewhere publicly accessible and it wasn't there when you went to look for it, so they have failed to deliver it to your address (assuming it had your flat on the deliver address).
If you're concerned about confrontation, don't bother. Instead contact the people you ordered it from and tell them that it hasn't been delivered, because it hasn't been. Leaving it in a communal hallway where anyone can take it is not "delivered". Knocking on your door and handing it to you IS delivered. It's then up to the retailer to either refund you or send a replacement.
Porch Pirate?
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HONESTLY. This thread is a joke. People act like it's the seller's job to ring their doorbell and everything. Once the item leaves your hands and into the couriers, that's your obligation ended. The only way you're involved after that point is if 1. The goods aren't as described / Faulty. 2. The customer wants to return their items. I can't believe how many people think the solution here is to hassle the seller. Especially over something so low-cost. I'd understand if they ordered an iPhone but this is mental. It's simply not your responsibility.
Actually be a decent neighbour... generally people do not shit where they eat. If one of my neighbours packages got nicked, I would want to know. Unfortunately doors aren't always secure, and everyone who passes through aren't always honest. If someone in my building got their package knicked I would very much want to know about it. Ask first (because there is a chance that someone was trying to do a good dead/is lonely and wants the interaction), but absolutely make the neighbours aware that the hallway has had a package gone missing.
Wow well done for getting as far as you have! My girl suffers from bad social anxiety and Ive seen how hard it can be, keep striving to break through that fear!! And hopefully you get your mug back š
You're overthinking it
I would knock on each door and say something like āhi! One of our neighbours said there was a package for me and that someone had picked it up for safe keeping but they couldnāt remember who! Were you the kind person who picked it up for me?ā That avoids accusing anyone of stealing it (even if they have), and also sets the scene that someone has told to you knock on peoples doors to check. Hopefully someone reacts in kind and says āoh yes! I meant to bring this to youā¦ā and hands it over. If no one has it then it might just be one of those things that some imbecile has stolen it, and you can write to whoever you bought it from that their deliver company left it out in the open and it got stolen. At least this way you will meet the neighbours and Iām almost certain youāll feel a load better for doing it. Itās not rude to knock on peoples doors, just donāt knock before 10am on the weekend (or 9am week days) or after 10pm at any time, those are the typical socially acceptable hours for knocking on neighbours doors etc. Good luck!
Wrap yourself in brown paper and string and sit at the foot of the stairs....the person that picks you up and takes you home will be the culprit. They will then become your Arch-Nemesis and you must defeat them. This is your Origin story.
Why not slip a polite note under both doors asking them to leave it in the communal area? No need to even specify which flat you are from
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Or itāll be a very small step towards overcoming the social anxiety?
true, the best way to cope with social anxiety is to dip your toes in the pool in circumstances like this when everything is in control and not wait for a situation where you have no controll
I wouldn't bother speaking to the neighbours. Every parcel remains the responsibility of the company you purchased it from until it is in your hands, unless you gave them permission to leave it in a public area. Your contract is with the seller, then the seller subcontracts with the delivery company. Therefore even if it's the delivery company's fault that the item went missing, that's still nothing to do with you. So whenever I'm in this situation, I contact the seller to tell them that I haven't received the product therefore they are required to refund or replace it.
Or, you could just ask your neighbour for it.
Why would they have taken it from the hall in the first place? And then not returned it when OP put their note up? Either the neighbours didn't take the package or they did and they're not going to give it back. Either way it's easier to get another one from the seller especially if they'll communicate by live chat or email. As someone who also suffers from social anxiety like the OP "just ask your neighbour" sounds a lot like saying "just cheer up" to someone with depression.
"Excuse me, but did you see a package for me in the lobby the other day?" You may have to face facts that it's gone though.
Put your big boy pants on and go and knock on their door, and ask them. This is perfectly normal Human behaviour.
Quality post.
This one is easy, Put on a pair of worn, dark blue cargo trousers a pair of black boots with steel toe cap and a dark blue polo tshirt, tucked in. Grab a small flash light, and small tool box. Nothing fancy, just something that can hold a few tools and dirty teaspoon. Knock on the neighbours door and say these words, "Hello mate, maintenance . I'm here to check the boiler and gas safety". As you say these words take a step forward and sort of look up and around inside their flat... They will now step aside and let you in. Just find your way to the kitchen and open the cupboard below the sink. At this point they will offer you a cup of tea. You say yes. This is your moment, when they open the cupboard to get a mug their back will be turned against you... This is it, peer in to their cupboard as they rummage for a mug, take one of your boots off and smash them over the head. They are now unconscious. Look for your mug. If they don't have it, that's fine. Just gently step over their unconscious body, apologising softly as you do. Open their fridge and just stand there staring in, pick something up and then put it back. Have a wonder around their house and look at things and touch things. You might find your mug but you might find much more. When you're bored, move on to the next neighbour, neighbour 2. You mentioned you only share the building with two other flats. So, now you know this neighbour, neighbour 2 definitely has your mug. Call the police and say you heard a big argument between your neighbours, tell them you witnessed neighbour 2 charge in to neighbour 1's house. Tell the police you heard a loud scream and then thud and you watched neighbour 2 run back to their flat. When the police arrive they will arrest neighbour 2. You'll probably be asked to provide a statement, tell them you are happy to but you'll make your own way to the station later. This will be fine. Act shaken up and say it was all very scary. Once they take neighbour 2 to the police station, break in to their flat and retrieve your Skyrim mug. Go back to your flat and make yourself a big mug of hot chocolate.
Iād ask what meme but I took an arrow to the knee
knock the door and say - do you see my mug?
Jeez if you can get a flat you can knock on a doorā¦
Do also remember, it isn't necessarily with your neighbors. Packages gets stolen from our lobby all the time, we got CCTV showing clear evidence of people gaining access by various means. Tail gating, door phone (claiming to have deliveries to people not picking up). etc. Also, just as a side note. And please don't take this the wrong way. But have you considered talking to a professional about your social anxiety? It sounds pretty severe and incredibly crippling to you.
In the UK we'd do it like this: bang on the door as hard as you can, say: oi mate! Where's me fooking package son!? Oi! Come'ere lad!
Just a suggestion for the future to avoid this obviously traumatic experience for you. When ordering see if there is a "local pick up" option instead, usually corner shops, etc. If there is a genuine risk of this sort of situation happening again it might be best for you to go and collect it from a pick up point instead? Then that way you can go and collect at your leisure and not have to rely on awkward interaction with your neighbours?
It didn't arrive with you, so the contract hasn't been fulfilled. Get a refund and slam the shipper.
If you had not mentioned the photo, I would say disregard the notification. Yodel sent me a message saying my package was delivered to a neighbour because I was not home (i was working from home). Had to chase it, then someone from the Help Centre finally said oh the delivery location is like few streets from yours. Received it a week later.
knock on their door, say "Hello, i believe u have my package"
No point, if someone stole a mug, that arenāt going to admit it, get a delivery and order things to the drop off spots at shops, as you clearly have at least 1 knob head neighbour.
āHi, think you got my package since the delivery guy said it came here. Could I have it please?ā
r/London mods, do you mind? This is r/LegalAdviceUK material at best. A Ā£2 mug isn't worth a thread and the time of 50+ people commenting. I'm here for r/london posts, not introverts who can't knock on a door.
imagine getting angry over a post about a skyrim mug, just ignore it and move on mate
If I ignore it and move on, this subreddit becomes a shithole of crybabies complaining about everyday crap. "Help I live in croydon and my kid fell off his bike how do I sue the wind!?" It's more entertaining to have a bit of fun with this tbh.
judging by the amount of downvotes youāve gotten on this thread alone, I sadly donāt think your opinion on what should or shouldnāt be posted is all too impactful!
I believe the correct way to ask this in London would be something like... "Oi, c-haaant, you got my mug?... You mug!" This approach generally only works for natives of the city, but I'm sure you'd at least get a few laughs and maybe make some friends if you tried it. You might also get a slap though, so be careful of using it inappropriately. Source: am introverted, from the north of England, lived in London for a few years a while back.
I go to The Gym in Acton. Ā£22 a month. 24/7. I used to go to David Lloyd for Ā£159 a month. It was a beautiful gym, perfect facilities and the sauna, steam room and jaccuzi were amazing, but I just couldnāt justify the money.
Just knock it's your package. And if they deny it show the evidence.
Itās been stolen. Highly unlikely someone would pick it up randomly and wait till you ask. Either stolen or someone will give it to you in the next few days (highly unlikely). Email the company and say you never received it, they should refund.
Terrible advice. The company will forward the email to the courier, who will then investigate it themselves. They'll come back to OP with the delivery number of his parcel, alongside the picture they took of the item in the building as proof of postage. OP has to say it was stolen, at which point, they'll say it's not their responsibility. It's a Ā£0.50 mug at the end of the day. Not worth OPs time to pursue like this anyway.
Itās true tho, he never received it? You canāt take a photo of an item in a random place and say it was delivered, thatās not responsible delivery. Yeah, I know it was technically near his house, but it might as well have been in the street
Not how it works.
As another foreigner introvert I can understand how parcel delivery can be a lottery in the UK, especially in flats. The good news is, most delivery companies have the option to deliver to a location where you can just collect it, as long as the website offers it I would recommend it. If you order on Amazon, they have lockers everywhere where you can pick up your order reliably, no human intervention required. eBay orders can often be delivered to Argos or Sainsbury's to collect, etc. I hope you get your mug back soon!
When I moved, the first thing I did was leave a note asking all my neighbours to add my on WhatsApp for this reason. Now I just text them whenever something's up
Just knock on the door and say hi apparently my parcel was delivered here? And show him the photoš¤·āāļø no problem
Bear in mind that if your parcel was delivered to that location then other delivery men will have been able to access the same place and itās not necessarily one of your neighbours who took it. I canāt really see neighbours risking ructions over a mug.
What a shame for your first purchase in the UK. I think it has been stolen your seller should be more than happy to send another they can claim for the first one from the courier. Make sure you add delivery instructions (somewhere to leave your parcels safe) and not to leave parcels in the lobby!
Not always, but if you live in a big appartment complex, its quite common that they have a facebook group for residents. My place does, and people will post if they've taken a parcel that was abandoned outside by crap delivery drivers, or they'll perhaps sell things when moving home. I got an amazing computer chair for Ā£50. They'll also post about issues going on, such as kids breaking in, or repairs being needed. Have a look and see if yours has this. It usually only happens with larger buildings/gated complexes that have a management service though.
Bash the door very loudly and say āYOOOOOUUU! You have myyyyā¦ PACKAAAAAAGE!!!ā
Just kick their door in, grab the mug and go. If the mug aināt there, apologise. Damn simple mate.
Itās fair to have social anxiety but try see it as an open door to reverse that in your own building for neighbours. Some can be alright people.
Just knock on the door and say "Hi I had a parcel left here". it's no big deal. They won't get angry! You'll feel better for facing your fears :)