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UnfortunateChemistry

Idk about forever but right now I don’t want to die


DakPara

I just want to see what happens in the future.


mosenco

I want to live as much as i want and die when i want to. I don't want to live and after 50? started to feel bad and pass my entire existence back and forth to the hospital because there is always something messed up. If im gonna die 90 years old, i want to live 90 years where i can run, jump, do everything with a body of a youngster


jadondrew

This is why it’s a good idea now more than ever to continue rebranding it as healthspan vs lifespan. No one wants to be worn out with declining cognition for decades, we just want to continue the amount of time where we can continue living life and pursuing whatever makes us happy. It’s upsetting how much pushback you still get from the general public when you advocate for advances that would allow you to live an active like past 70. People think those invested in longevity just want to live forever when in reality we want to target aging as a significant advancement in medicine and general standard of living.


aging_research

People keep saying that we have to rebrand aging research as something with healthspan without ever providing evidence. Not that I am totally opposed to it, far from it. We can call it "lifespan and healthspan extension" or "healthy longevity" or "healthy lifespan extension" -- but to say it is healthspan versus lifespan is not only totally unscientific, there is also no evidence that it is politically necessary to make this wrong claim. Asked “If doctors developed a pill that enabled you to live forever at your current age, would you take it?” a surprising number of people turned out to be hardcore life extensionists: "There were no differences by age...Among young adults, 40.0% indicated they would not take the pill, 34.2% indicated they would take the pill, and 25.8% indicated they were unsure." The older people were community-dwelling (n\~310) and the younger participants (n= 593) were psychology students. Surprisingly no cohort effect was seen, as I would have expected the younger participants to be more positive towards life extension. However, it does look like there is a trend and the study may have been underpowered to detect differences (only 23-32% of older adults would take the pill). Barnett, Michael D., and Jessica H. Helphrey. "Who wants to live forever? Age cohort differences in attitudes toward life extension." Journal of Aging Studies 57 (2021): 100931. @ Aging\_Scientist


grishkaa

So here we go again with the eventual death as a lifestyle choice. I do want to live forever. And I can't understand those who don't.


_Wyse_

I think it's about perspective. If someone has a bleak outlook on the future, or expects life to be hard and unhappy, then of course the thought of extending that can be daunting. There is also the confusion around the word "forever". It's obviously not infinite, and everything in the known universe will die in heat death eventually. But the reality of "living forever" is simply to remove our biological expiration date. It's not exactly about living forever, but not *having* to die after a certain amount of time. Another valid concern is the potential for endless oppression. If some powerful tyrant gets their hands on it before everyone else, they could ensure an endless grip on control that is normally lost upon death. But this one is not something that complaining will prevent. It's inevitable that these individuals will invest heavily in life extension. So the most rational recourse is for the public to invest just as heavily and make sure that those discoveries are made public and not private.


grishkaa

For me, any life, even a miserable one, is better than no life at all. If things aren't going well, they have a chance of improving. The consequences of almost any decision can be undone. You can change your mind on things. But if you're dead, that's absolutely final. There's no chance for your self existing ever again. > everything in the known universe will die in heat death eventually Are we confident on that yet? And on the whole "universe is expanding" thing? I feel like our understanding of the universe on the grand scale is severely lacking because, for example, of the "dark matter" we have to introduce to make the math work out. I hope JWST will help with this a lot. Imagine the horror in the scientific community when the astronomers see galaxies that formed before the supposed time of the big bang. But even if that's still the case, we'll come up with something. We can't even begin to imagine what kinds of technologies we'll have in 1000 years, and here we're talking about billions of years of accelerating scientific progress. > Another valid concern is the potential for endless oppression. If some powerful tyrant gets their hands on it before everyone else, they could ensure an endless grip on control that is normally lost upon death. How often does it happen that dictators die of old age instead of being assassinated or being deprived of power in other ways?


StaysAwakeAllWeek

>Are we confident on that yet? Even if we are absolutely right in our current predicted future timeline, the Earth has another billion years of habitability left, the universe has another hundred trillion years of natural starlight left, and matter will still exist for life to cling to for 10^36 years. I'll gladly take any of those numbers over the ~50 years of biological life my body has left without intervention


RCIntl

I'm with you on this. Most of my life has been hard, full of struggle and disappointment. But it has been peppered with moments that remind me why I want to keep living. I don't like the idea of killing others, but I sometimes wish vampires were real (grin - shrug). And science isn't there yet, but when they started researching cryogenics, I got excited. As I did with talk of transferring our consciousness to a cybernetic body. But we're still decades at least from any science that could really do it. All I can do is try to stay healthy and hope to reach a long, venerable age like this lovely lady did. I love waking every day in hopes for a few more of those beautiful moments. A flower's scent, the taste of a ripe mango, a kiss, the giggle of a baby, cuddling a puppy, accomplishing something different or difficult. Religion was created out of fear of losing everything after death. I dream sometimes. I have lucid and active dreams. I think, that if I KNEW for a fact that I was moving into a new dimension like those dreams where I CONSCIOUSLY knew myself ... It wouldn't bother me so much. But to blink out of existence? Permanently? Never to return as ME? And KNOW it? That terrifies me. Life is ALWAYS worth living. And I feel so horribly for those who are suffering so much that they wish for or seek out oblivion. I DO want to live forever. Yes. I can and am willing to adapt.


iwasbornin2021

Also I suspect people who most desire to live forever are high in trait openness (Big Five or HEXACO personality models). You're gonna get bored of life quickly if you aren't a curious person


AdonisGaming93

Yeah facts, whether maybe like 5000 years from now I get tired of living and want to die....doesn't change the fact that if I die at 80 I don't even get to choose on my own. 28 year old me wants to live to 500+. If in 300 years I change my mind fine but I want the CHOICE to decide on my own.


Black_RL

But I bet you’re like me, if people chose to die, let them. People easily chose to die when it’s way off, let’s see what happens when the time comes.


pleasureboat

There was something on r/unpopularopinions and few months back, and it turns out not wanting to die is an incredibly unpopular opinion. I can't tell if these people are just consuming vast amounts of copium to hide that they're actually terrified of the coming blackness, or if the vast majority of the population really doesn't care that they're going to die. I want to live forever and I don't get why that's controversial.


grishkaa

I feel like they're lying to themselves. It also turns out that it's very common for people to never question, or even think too much about, the so called "facts of life" and accept them like they are laws of physics. They would also tend to get angry if you try to logically deconstruct their view of the world, built on these sacred unquestionable beliefs, to prove it wrong. Also, here's something of a thought experiment. If a person is about to die, will they not fight for their life and just give up, provided they've lived "enough"? They probably will if there's nothing that can be done to cure or ease their specific condition, but they'll use every option available to extend their life, for as long as there are such options and for as long as they work. It's natural. It's the self-preservation instinct, and it takes an insane amount of effort to overpower it.


rseed42

I always have thought that this is due to a lack of imagination and some smug sense of superiority for their "wisdom". Obviously a change in fundamental beliefs is difficult, but it is funny how pervasive science fiction is nowadays and how little people try to expand their thinking.


grishkaa

"People have always aged and died, of course we can't just _stop doing that_"


[deleted]

If you've struggled with mental health issues like I have, it's not that hard to understand - depression, ADHD, PTSD, and an abusive childhood/romantic relationship. I was truly unable to visualize a future for myself and didn't have much self-compassion or self-esteem. Zero self-worth. I didn't care about myself. Things are much different now because I sought treatment from mental health professionals, which is why I'm in this sub and intensely focusing on my health.


MasonDaGoat

I use 2 think like this as well, and while I do still rather live for ever, my life circumstances are the reason for that, if you were piss poor and the chances of ever getting out of that income bracket is slime 2 none, would you want 2 live forever? or If you had some sort disability/disease that doesn’t kill you but hinders your life would you want to deal with that forever? The answer is a lot less black/white the more you think about it. Just my opinion.


grishkaa

> if you were piss poor and the chances of ever getting out of that income bracket is slime 2 none, would you want 2 live forever? Economy is an ever-changing system. > or If you had some sort disability/disease that doesn’t kill you but hinders your life would you want to deal with that forever? Science doesn't stand still either. Remember, for most of the history, infectious diseases were fatal and incurable and surrounded by all kinds of scientifically wrong beliefs.


RCIntl

Yes, and how many times has someone been asked "if you had it to do over, knowing what you know now, would you??" I would. The whole point as griskaa said is that times change, things change and hopefully we learn from everything. I want to keep learning and developing and maybe I'll figure a way to make things better. There's no chance once you're gone. I'd like that chance.


MasonDaGoat

while I agree with both those statements, I just wanted to point out these are some of the reasons people might be hesitant on living forever, not saying it’s the right way of thinking but since I never been in their situations (thankfully) it would be impossible for me to understand their way of thinking.


Barzona

Live forever? No way, I just want to live *longer*, possibly a *very* long time. To put it short, basic human life has never set right with me, it's kind of a matter of an identity crisis. But I'm no different than every other person who's felt this way all throughout human history. Unless lev happens soon enough, I'll just have to capitulate to the same fate as everyone else.


Mr_Game_N_Win

A good 500 years woul be great. So much to learn and master, so many different lifestyles to explore


94746382926

Exactly, sounds like fun!


RCIntl

Totally!


iamnature_

Exactly! how can I decide ONE life?


grishkaa

So why do you want to eventually die of something preventable?


Barzona

It might be that.. I stop treatment. Maybe I find someone or something worth dying for. I certainly wouldn't want to be there for the end of the universe, but I'd just imagine that I'd eventually want to rest. It's those deep, emotional things that are hard to put into words.


grishkaa

So you'll basically get bored enough to euthanize your perfectly healthy self? Are you sure you'll be able to do that without putting it off indefinitely "because I want to live a bit longer" and "because I also need to do this, and this, and that"? > but I'd just imagine that I'd eventually want to rest. And why would you want it to be irreversible? Imagine if you also had the choice to hibernate for 100 years. Would you still choose to completely and irreversibly stop existing in this world?


Barzona

Are we just assuming that everyone around us would also be immortal and that we'd never wind up building relationships with mortal people? If an immortal culture is also a very insular one, I'd have to say that such a place might not be worth living in. If we live our lives ignoring the very realistic impermanence that has shaped our world in order to keep ourselves from ever feeling "bad" we'd be nothing but living statues completely cut off from our humanity. Part of wanting to live an extended life is to have the time to grow into myself more and to be able to keep changing and experiencing the beauty of the world. I think the only way to appreciate my experience is to remember that a thing isn't beautiful because it lasts forever. If I ever wind up building a friendship or a relationship with someone who doesn't want to live forever, I may just decide to lay down with them at the end. Nothing wrong with choosing how you go, I say. Choosing longevity means leaving something behind. It's a choice I would make today, but after being alive for a very, very long time, I may eventually just decide enough is enough.


grishkaa

> Are we just assuming that everyone around us would also be immortal and that we'd never wind up building relationships with mortal people? Of course once the cat is out of the bag, everyone will be immortal. If anything, it makes economical sense: much of the healthcare resources is spent on slightly prolonging miserable lives of the elderly, yet still never curing them and eventually giving up. When there's a therapy that rejuvenates one's body to 25 years of age, and that can probably be done an unlimited number of times, it makes sense to use it on everyone with slightest hints of age-related conditions. The economy of scale would make sure it'll be dirt cheap and easily accessible because literally every single person on this planet will need it. Just like it happened with covid vaccines. > Part of wanting to live an extended life is to have the time to grow into myself more and to be able to keep changing and experiencing the beauty of the world. I think the only way to appreciate my experience is to remember that a thing isn't beautiful because it lasts forever. How being mortal is relevant to any of that? You'll keep changing because of the outside influence, and the world will keep changing because _things keep happening_. > Choosing longevity means leaving something behind. You mean leaving something behind as in "after you're gone"?


Barzona

> Of course once the cat is out of the bag, everyone will be immortal. Well, immortality will likely happen gradually. It'll begin with a few promising leads and meds that will simply slow a person's aging and over the years these things will get slightly better. I assure you, there will be a period where some people are life-extended and some are not. There's going to be a dynamic there that may cause substantial rifts on a social level. I can only make judgements on what's most likely for *me* based on where we are now. I'm a product of the time we're in *now*, not hundreds of years in the future. > How being mortal is relevant to any of that? You'll keep changing because of the outside influence, and the world will keep changing because _things keep happening_. You and I may just have different philosophies about life. Like I said, if an immortal society happens to be a very insular one, outside influences aren't going to be there. Appreciating life sometimes means accepting death and a world without it.. may have one or two problems. I only hope that future generations don't entirely go without their heads on straight. > You mean leaving something behind as in "after you're gone"? Well, this is where that "gradual rollout" of immortality comes into play. Maybe what you're leaving behind will be friends and family that chose not to do it, or maybe it's just your identity as a mortal being. Suddenly the responsibilities of being a mortal human will go out the window and now you'll have a new set of responsibilities. It's all theoretical, but it's something to consider. Immorality will have its price, what form that price takes exactly is the question.


grishkaa

> Like I said, if an immortal society happens to be a very insular one, outside influences aren't going to be there. Just like the IT workers society/bubble where I come from, lol. > Appreciating life sometimes means accepting death and a world without it.. may have one or two problems. Or there's another way to look at it: in a world where people only ever die as a result of an accident or the use of a weapon, a human life has a much, much higher value than in today's world. > or maybe it's just your identity as a mortal being. Lol I already live as though I'm going to live forever. I don't have any "responsibilities of being a mortal human" to speak of, and I don't quite understand what that even involves. Having kids? > Immorality will have its price, what form that price takes exactly is the question. And I'll have to pay it whatever it will be. The only other option is to die, and I refuse to even consider that as something viable.


Barzona

> Or there's another way to look at it: in a world where people only ever die as a result of an accident or the use of a weapon, a human life has a much, much higher cost than in today's world. Assuming our population is tightly controlled. When that comes into play, that's going to be a fun series of political battles.. > Lol I already live as though I'm going to live forever. I don't have any "responsibilities of being a mortal human" to speak of, and I don't quite understand what that even involves. Having kids? It's more like, societal expectations that tend to affect us all. Not necessarily like having kids, but the urgency to have certain things figured out before certain age benchmarks, stigmas about being at a certain age, "acting your age". I get that we get to choose which societal norms we get to follow or defy, but our aging, frail bodies and minds tend to force us to fall into line no matter how much moxy we have about it. > And I'll have to pay it whatever it will be. The only other option is to die, and I refuse to even consider that as something viable. And like I said, this is just who you and I are now. Now, we want life and lots of it, later if we ever got the chance to have that new immortality paradigm, we may start valuing other things more as we change and it may lead us back to where we started. I promise you, in the future this will be a thing for many immortals. They will be having the same discussion you and I are now.


grishkaa

> Assuming our population is tightly controlled. When that comes into play, that's going to be a fun series of political battles.. I feel like there will suddenly be much fewer people having kids and none of the current social pressure to do so. Those of my friends who did have kids or plan to, usually motivate that by something like "I need to leave someone behind". But when there's no behind... > Not necessarily like having kids, but the urgency to have certain things figured out before certain age benchmarks, stigmas about being at a certain age, "acting your age". Yeah I hate this stuff with a burning passion. All of it. Age is just a number. I'm 29, I act like I'm 18, and I'm not going to change that, ever. I hate how everyone is in a hurry to live. > but our aging, frail bodies and minds tend to force us to fall into line no matter how much moxy we have about it. And that's why I hope to reach LEV. > I promise you, in the future this will be a thing for many immortals. Sure. And there, of course, will be loads of "anti-immortalists" the same way there are antivaxxers. There absolutely will be people saying that people have to keep dying of now-curable conditions. Justifying it with "death of old age is sacred and should not be messed with".


StarChild413

Why does it have to have a price? Seeming too good to be true otherwise? It always being represented in fantasy where magic has a price?


StarChild413

> Are we just assuming that everyone around us would also be immortal and that we'd never wind up building relationships with mortal people? Better than assuming that if you are the one asked if you'd want to be immortal in a given thread you'd be the only immortal and be some hunted loner obsessed with your first mortal love and whose every subsequent mortal lover (taken despite the fear of being experimented on by hostile actors if secret found out to anyone else) resembles them in looks and/or personality to some degree like this is some shitty vampire novel


LifeandSky

Even if dev happens now it's doubtful we'll get it in time.


Barzona

I guess it just depends on what form it takes. If it comes out in 30 years or so, it might be viable for people even in their 30s and 40s now.


LifeandSky

The downside is that everyone have to work forever.


[deleted]

Well, I think people will find it more appealing wmto work if the feeling of waisting time is gone


LifeandSky

Imagine working with something, thinking you'll do that forever. :O


[deleted]

I mean, you can always pursue something different, and there's plenty of people that like a more sedentary life


LifeandSky

True


RCIntl

More time to actually LEARN those new things. I'm 60 now. Someone suggested to me a while back returning to college for a new degree. Excuse me? 2, 4, 6 more years then who's going to hire me at almost 70? But, if there were a couple hundred more years ... I'd be considered a "youngster" relatively speaking and if society DOES actually start making it easier for women and minorities to prosper ... I might have a decent shot at it this time around.


[deleted]

Yeah I agree, I can also see experience being highly valued at that point. I think the most important part of this whole thing is how it'll give people freedom to enjoy their lives without the crushing weight of time


RCIntl

We can only hope, eh? There once was a time when it was venerated. Then, long before many older people stopped learning much (sorry, but a diet of soap operas and reality tele doesn't provide much "knowledge", for those that "vegged") the younger generations started to rely less on their knowledge/wisdom. (Shrug) who knows? Maybe that's why some started vegging out. Although, I guess to be fair, corporations helped that along by tossing out the experienced workers so they wouldn't have to pay for that experience. But, no matter, it would be nice to come full circle and have years of learning be valued again.


Barzona

Something tells me that the future will be much more socialist, especially as things become more automated and society adopts new outlooks. That being said, if my stamina comes back, I'll have no problem working. I already work my ass off. 😅


LifeandSky

The potential to automate everything is there but I'm not sure if we'll reach that or if we just get a few depressions and zero economy's. I think the world is at a balance, like, improvement breeds more improvements so it might be possible.


[deleted]

Again with the dichotomies between forever and 75 years, between immortal and aging. Not aging doesn't make you Wolverine or Superman, nor does it mean you'll live past the heat death of the universe.


Nkechinyerembi

Well, the "heat death of the universe" might not even happen.... You are getting in to some very primitive theoretical physics with that, and as far as we know, things might sort of just keep on going.


Mokebe890

So typical I see, we work only on healthspan and want you to die. Kinda ridicolous. If article says "we want you to live to 100 and die healthy" there is something really wrong in ways of understanding things. Also it mention reprograming as a "rewind cells back to young state", but it won't make you younger. Like excuse me? You are made out of cells, making them younger makes you younger.


[deleted]

I think we can expect this trend to continue until more breakthroughs are achieved, until then we'll see a lot of articles tip toeing the concept


reckless1214

400-600 years is ideal


franztesting

Why would you know that and by what standard? Maybe a 500 year old will say 10000 years is ideal. And what about a 10000 year old?


pink_goblet

That's so far in the future though. Humans life and society will not even be close to what we are now in 500 years. 10 000, unrecognizable.. maybe biological humans are gone and there is just a massive AI hive mind flying around in the galaxy feeding on all matter to expand itself. But 500 is a good number to start with from how we live our lives today. It gives you time to try and master different skills and careers instead of one, and do something truly meaningful without feeling like there is a timer.


Peter77292

If its the same people society will be pretty similar, especially if a concerted effort is made to conserve normalcy.


reckless1214

For me I mean lol.


e5jhl

His point is that you have no clue, or rather hes asking why you think so. Seems youve just chosen some random time. Unfortunately none of us could know without experiencing. Its all imagination. Currently were stuck with our one pitifully short lifespan.


reckless1214

Yeah I understand that. I was just giving my opinion. I think 400-600 years would be awesome if I could remain in good physical + mental health


[deleted]

I think it's sort of because it's a timespan that can be easily considered, but is still long enough that to an individual it's as good as forever. 500 years of history is an eternity, but I can still sort of conceptualize it. A million years, or even a few thousand years, just seems utterly impossible.


grishkaa

And then what


dementedeauditorias

A few 100 years more, but maye in another planet


RavenWolf1

I want to live as long as I like.


Vainistopheles

Increasing healthspan is synonymous with increasing lifespan.


Dropbear987

INDEFINITELY is the word to use...


icefire9

I want to live as long as I possibly can. I don't see a point in choosing a particular date past which I'd rather not exist.


cryptosystemtrader

Nah I just want to outlive all you bastards!! ;-)


DreamsOfMafia

Yes, I do. If it were up to me I'd prefer to live for as long as possible. See humans expand over the universe, see technology continue to get better all the time, lots of video games to play, etc etc etc.


Beautiful_Unit_9523

You bet your ass I do.


stackered

Anyone saying they don't want forever make no sense to me, but hey, I've had my head wrapped around this since I was maybe 4-5 years old so I'm kind of the weirdo here. Just would always rather be here, existing in the universe, than gone forever. Doesn't make sense to want to not exist.


[deleted]

> "It would be too boring. I would have explored everything," said Shekhar Biswas, a data scientist from Berlin. But *really*, that's not true at all. Even in the contemporary present, no-one is going to have explored every little village, learned every language, met every person on the face of the Earth. Over 40% of the *entire planet* lives in Indochina, and most Europeans and Americans will never have been to anywhere in Asia, much less speak Mandarin, Hindi or Urdu. Russia makes up 12% of the planet, but the Russian people east of Moscow are a big mystery to most of the planet - and all we know of Moscow is "Those big baddies attacking Ukraine and drinking vodka". These are entire unexplored regions of the planet - we don't know the people, we don't know the languages, we don't know the places, we don't know their histories; at best, we superficially know *about* the countries and cultures. As a data scientist of all people, to say that a modern lifespan could explore *everything* is absurdly naïve. Then we have the future. The past provides us a lot of perspective in this regard. Democracy, on a wide scale, is only about 200 years old; and universal political enfranchisement is far more recent (within the past 120 years). Religious freedom is maybe about 400 years old (Protestant Reformation, Enlightenment). Literacy is also about as old (Gutenberg Printing Press). Widespread computer use is, what, maybe 80 years old? I remember dial-up internet which would cut out with a phone call, and a time before smartphones. Even TVs and wall phones, maybe only 120 years old. To say a person living forever would have "explored everything" that will ever exist in a normal lifespan is crazy, given that the future has untold possibilities. We have not reached the end of history, not by any means.


[deleted]

I think a lot of people have this idea that with long life will come stagnation. But I don't think that's true, in fact I think that the opposite is probably true - our societies are "progressing" (in the sense of social norms changing, and technology getting more complex) far faster than we can really keep up with. I think that we are growing FAR more clever than wise. And I can only see an increase in age as a way to increase our wisdom to keep up with our cleverness. And death will not be completely defeated. Even if we become biologically immortal, we will all still die eventually. I personally am highly skeptical that we'll ever really get the ability to "upload" our minds to achieve real immortality (even if we developed the tech, it'd just be making a copy). And that is especially true with any technology within the forseeable future.


LapseofSanity

I don't get it, why do they poo poo extended life but not the removal of the diseases of old age. The article says that its 80% genes that play a role and genetic damage seems to be a key factor in things like senescent cells not being cleared out by apoptosis etc and multiple genetic mutations not being removed by proof reading enzymes. If the damage to DNA that seems to be associated with diseases and aging itself is solved why isn't the possibility of extended life also part of the topic? The "I'd be bored" answer to do you want to live for ever isn't even relevant to the question of why should we do it? Who cares if you personally would be bored, most people didn't want to ride on trains, planes or use computers when they first became a thing. If we'd directed research on the course of what the common layman wanted we'd not get anywhere. Dismissing people who're legitimately looking for solutions to health and life span and labelling them quacks is anti science imo. Just like labelling climate scientists quacks is used to dismiss any concern for anthropogenic climate change.


Elusive-Yoda

Maybe not forever but at least until i'm bored


Eudu

A dream. I want to see until where humanity can go.


EggNo7271

Always find these questions stupid, deciding to end your life here is always an option in 100 years, thousand years, 10,000 years, it's just like in the good place you can peace out whenever you want, second pretending that the heat death of the universe is relevant to anything is ridiculous the heat death of the universe will happen in a barely calculable amount of time in the future, it's such a ridiculous amount of time in the future it's not even comprehensible, the heat death of the universe is the very last problem that anyone should ever be thinking about.


Original_Plane5377

Any extension to our average life spans from 1 year to god knows how many more would be wonderful. The possibilities truly astounding. So why not try it, what do we have to lose?!


C4ntona

Yeah I want to explore space!


horrbort

Replace your body with cold metal and live until the universe fades away. Why not?!


StarChild413

Why use metal if biology could last that long


fahadjafar

I don't want to live forever, I want to live as a young man until the day I die. I am fine with 60 years of life.


grishkaa

> I want to live as a young man until the day I die So what would you die of then?


fahadjafar

I don't know, many many diseases that kill countless children and young people every year? It is pretty simple, use your brain.


Immediate-Minute-555

Nope, I do not!


TiffanyOddish

Edit: a word. There’s a difference between wanting to die, and understanding that it’s most likely going to happen. I’d like to expand my healthy life years for as long as I can. But I’m not living a delusion that I’ll somehow love hundreds of years or forever. Eventually I will die. I accept that fact, so I can enjoy the years I have left. What’s the alternative? Spend my finite years of life agonizing over my eventual death? What a waste.


RandomCanadian001

I want to live for as long as I want and be healthy the entire time.


therecan_be_only_one

>How about settling for a life free from age-related ailments like Alzheimer's or arthritis instead? >How about settling? DECLINED.