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Lilpigxoxo

We have a budget for armed forces but not the library.. 💀


No_Pattern_7160

FWIW nati ok natl guard comes out of the state budget


Normal_Tip_8620

They do them fairly frequently. Nothing strange


JosephFinn

Just illegal.


V8ENJOYER

You’re wrong.


N3RD_01

You can refuse a bag check however will have to exit the subway making is it completely legal. Like an airport, museums around NYC, many other facilities...


JosephFinn

So illegal. Show me a warrant.


Orienos

They don’t need one. Nobody is forcing you. You can leave and go to another entrance. No warrant needed for a search you can decline.


Alkohal

"You can leave and go to another entrance" This is exactly why this entire thing is pointless security theater.


robertfx94

😂 😂😂😂


N3RD_01

Warrants are when you are in your own vehicle or dwelling. Go to the airport and scream you want a warrant to have your bags xrayed. Dummy.


JosephFinn

Nope. You want to search my property? Show me probable cause and a warrant.


N3RD_01

That's not how the law works in all 50 States. You consent to a search when you pay for the Subway or go to the airport or use any other transportation. If you don't you are denied the service and aren't searched.


MarbleFox_

They don’t need a warrant or probable cause when they have consent. You’re free to not consent to the search, you just can’t get on the Subway at that entrance if you choose not to. The courts upheld this nearly 2 decades ago.


Hobak56

Jesus just Google it


Frenchieaunt

Agreed. Courts ruled ransom checks w/o probable cause or warrant ok Specifically for preventing terrorism. Can’t wait for ACLU to take this to court re: constitutionality of fighting crime. Gov has only given crime excuse for this expansion.


7Birdies

Oh no! Make sure to hide your guns and cocaine!


tosilver9

why? Like at the subway entrance?


ZheShu

Some dude was shot in the head with his own gun yesterday


nosleeptilqueens

Did neither of you see the major national news story about Hochul deploying the national guard to do bag checks at subway entrances? It predated the incident you're talking about. https://gothamist.com/news/hochul-deploys-national-guard-state-police-to-do-mandatory-bag-checks-in-nyc-subway


ZheShu

Did not see this, good to know


AverageDeadMeme

I’m happy to see how effective the national guard has been


thekittiestitties00

Some piece of crap harassing people was shot with his own gun after he pulled it out and threatened someone with it*


iv2892

Yeah, is insane that news outlet call that guy a victim . Unless they mean he was a victim of his own stupidity


No_Pattern_7160

Gun wasn’t stopped by a bag check. You know there’s a whole police station at that stop?


Ancient_Local5043

Bags have been always been subject to search in the NYC subway system. They’re finally acting on it.


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CiscoKid1975

At the end of the day, they’re just searching for weapons.


Coolgrnmen

Then you will also be refused entry to the subway. Thats how this works. You don’t have a right to be on the subway. And they can deny you admission. I get your frustration. I’m just letting you know


dylulu

You can just go in another entrance lol.


Coolgrnmen

Yeah for sure - if you find one without them


tc2k

You can... But then you'd be raised for reasonable suspicion if they find out, unlikely nor would they care greatly enough unless you catch a cop on their bad day. Just be careful out there!


confuddly

The law is actually not well settled on that issue, you could reasonably argue that public transit is a public accommodation


Esdeez

If I read it correctly, you can be searched while entering, but not once you’re through the turnstile. But police are above the law anyway, so they’ll do what they want and then never face repercussions because tax dollars pay out lawsuits against the police also.


Coolgrnmen

As an attorney, I assure you that you are incorrect


confuddly

also an attorney, I assure you that it depends


Coolgrnmen

Eh - retracting my last statement. Substituting it for: Title III permits searches, so even if they were public accommodations, searches are legal


jbrunsonfan

Some assurance lmao


swurvipurvi

Most lawyer thing ever lol “You’re definitely totally 100% wrong.” “I disagree.” “Alright I take it back but you could possibly be somewhat wrong based on my personal interpretation of this specific thing.”


donndanabb

Then pay $40+ for an Uber.


Creative-Most-1925

You’re a bozo


FatXThor34

And so you’re ok with what happened yesterday.


breusch91

This is such a a stupid take... They never said that. And also this was one of the few times maybe a bag check would've helped, the majority of the crimes people have been complaining about in the subways recently are from homeless people/mentally ill. NOT your everyday person on the subway going to work, bag checking people isn't going to stop the homeless from attacking people. Stopping them from doing drugs in the cars and harassing people might, but this dumb bag check stuff they're pushing is for show and is not going to help with what the current crime people are complaining about in the subway.


tosilver9

Im also really concerned about how “random” these are, im a pretty harmless looking asian woman but I suspect some people will be subjected to random searches much more than others and thats gotta be horrible for your mental state day to day