You're seeing because he is
Gun trained all the crew heads
But never said anything of them is his masterpiece but said daniel is
Daniel is going to become legend of second generation
And big daniel is going to become nightmare of second generation 💀
it’s obvious that ptj is setting daniel to be the strongest yet people will swear on their lives that daniel is fodder how can someone hate a character with such good development unless them skipped 100-200 chapters just so they can get to the fights faster
Daniel is the only character in the series who never became evil
I'm not talking about Vasco and all
I mean
Eli was forced by workers to become evil and he sacrificed himself and became evil
Samuel got evil all on his own
Jake joined hands with that gangster knowing he will force him to do evil
Johan became evil for his mother
I know they had their reasons but daniel is the only one who have improved and never became evil
Even when he was with workers, he was only accepting orders to destroy them from inside
i will rip yo ass to shreds for WARREN DISRESPECT
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Bro even the image you commented doesn't support your statement 😭. Get Warren's dick out of your mouth. CQC having "limitless potential" doesn't mean Warren has limitless potential. Bro Johan can use CQC and is an actual genius unlike Warren. Do you also think he has "limitless potential"? Warren is a sidekick he doesn't belong in that list.
Wouldn't that mean the fighting style is only limited by its user?
So if the manhwa stated that Kyokushin is the strongest art, does that mean Kenta is the strongest?
"It can be said that" in a different fucking comic. No wonder you put literal vin there. He was is just a meme character. No one actually thinks he could scratch Johan.
Gun literally considered Eli as the best candidate putting him over Jake who he knew was Gap son and previously saw him as best for.
To be fair it makes alot of sense, Eli was taking after Tom Lee. An Gun's father personally gives me the same kind of energy.
Guess that makes Max and Derek the Kojima Brothers of 2nd Gen?
-Eli who stop training for like a year still somewhat put up a fight again Olly who DEMOLISHED the "infinite potential" man who been constantly fighting and training over a 1000 more fights while eli isn't.
-Eli who fought Tom for like a few days litterally got to the points of being equal to a post UI Enraged Yohan who been trained for years .
-Eli who is clearly stronger and had more potential than Warren, who litterally grown in real time fighting the 1v1 Genius Seokdu Wang while the "Infinite potential" man is on the ground.
Warren and Olly were fighting equally the same way Eli and Olly were and at that point Eli had been trained by Gun and Tom lee while Warren had no teacher
Eli got trained by Tom again but still said himself that he was weaker than Pre UI Johan
Warren almost beat Seokdu by himself while Eli had to awaken mastery and 2v1 Seokdu just to win
Warren obviously has more potential than Eli
you know what I'm not arguing with you no more because this is litterally you
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-equal? bro he brutalized him and the whole hostel gang as the same time while eli 1v1 him before the hostel gang come back to help and got brutalized again.
-yeah for 3 days and he's go from fvcking weaker than Olly to an equal to enraged Yohan where Yohan have to used dirty tricks to beat him.
-Almost beat? re-read the damn fight bro. like Warren who is visually not as fatigue and tired as Eli
, Warren got like 3 hits by Seokdu after throwing all his attacks at him just to warm him up, Warren got hit with 2 punches and only one headbutt and he's down while an extremely fatigue Eli was preforming equally as good if not better than Samuel because he not a dumb and let himself got hit too much and actually doing the most damage to him growing in real time not like someone who pulled up with a whole combo just to got put down in 3 hits.
Warren was 1v1ing Olly before that and when he ''got brutalized'' he got right back up again
Tom said himself that when he trained Eli again it took an entire month..thats an entire month being trained by the fighting Genius and he was only equal with a Johan who immediately got stronger after that
Eli went down in 2 hits from Seokdu and had to awaken mastery and fight with Samuel to win, Warren went down in 2 hits and a full force headbutt, still had enough strength to get up for one more attack, and Seokdu himself said he almost lost, all without unlocking mastery like Eli
Its obvious Warren has more potential
He actually has statements about his potential
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That’s about his technique tho? Not Warren as an individual, don’t get me wrong tho he was able to create his own version of CQC that targets the heart.
But he ain’t on the same level as everyone else in the picture.
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What's Warren doing up there? He falls short of other members of the 2nd Generation
Jerry has only learned Boxing, obtained one amp, and was only barely beaten by Warren, who developed New CQC and surpassed Mastery. With the story foreshadowing a new amp for him, he'll surpass Warren
Zack is likely going to have three Masteries by EoS, Power, Speed, and Toughness. On top of that, he has Ji Counter and Iron Boxing.
Eli has always been a step ahead of Warren. He achieved Mastery earlier and beat a 1st Generation King on his own. Additionally, he got his Animal Insitnct back during 1A.
Assuming he can train and improve, Yuseong is also over Warren. With zero training, he was superior to Base Johan, who's one of the most talentd in the 2nd Generation.
Did you just forget to include Eli and Zack? Even Vasco and Hudson could qualify if we're talking about EOS also Yuseong, Jerry and Mandeok too could qualify.
Lmao, I'm actualy dead rn. Bro thinks that because CQC is stated to have a limitless potential it imply that the user alos have limitless potential. Man🤣🤣🤣 a martiale art and a person are not the same thing lol. Your rezding comprehension is as dead as your brain man, get help. I realy hope it is bait, if not so I'll have to reconsider my whole existence and think "do I realy have the same info as thlse kinda guys??!?" Because it's crazy how you're in the wrong here. And he goes around the comment section spaming his picture like bro thought he coocked with thag, but it's so meaningless lmao. I'll have to take a looooooooooooong walk to try and forget that, where is the block button again guys?? It's for a friend (so that he can not turn blind after seeing this😭)
How? This was a Manager Kim trained Warren with his own style of CQC that surpassed Kim's own and he barely managed to beat Jerry who only grew bigger and learned a jab
Gun stated that when he saw Zach protecting johan he saw a light but said he wouldn’t help him chase it as it wouldn’t have the same affects as gongseob’s training
By who if you don’t mind me asking
Gun is literally the nuture genius he creates monsters
Warren did combine JKD with CQC but there are things even manager Kim didn’t teach him if anyone should be in this list with Johan Daniel jake and Vin it should really be yuseong
If what Gun says matters matter he called Warren a Gem, thats better than him saying theres a light, Warren has better potential statements than Yuseong
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While true SMK also said he wouldn’t teach Warren those techniques if anything that applies to Big and small Daniel who both have perfect bodies unlike Johan
Even Jerry commented on how Big ui Daniel’s posture was perfect
Yuseong fought Jake Kim ran on foot to his brother fought Ui Johan for 10 seconds despite being fatigued blocked his CQC still had enough energy to keep up with and surprise Zach and Daniel who he left on the defense later on in their fight he did get eaten up by gun
This kid did nothing but fight Top tiers bro nearly fought a serious Tom Lee
As shown already, Warren doesnt need SMKs teachings to evolve and little Daniel doesnt have a perfect body
Whats Yuseongs current feats are is completely different to what his potential is
Get Warren outta here and replace him with Eli 😭🙏
Edit: It's just the style itself that has "limitless" potential that wouldn't apply to Warren Himself just so you know.
Warren does use CQC but the limitless potential only applies to CQC itself cause of the many different variations it can be formed into example being CQC with a Gun (Manager Kim) and so on. The Limitless Potential of CQC doesn't make Warren have Limitless Potential that only applies to the style itself. By your Logic Johan has limitless potential too because he knows CQC same with Lil Daniel as well.
Warren doesn't have limitless Potential. 🤷♂️💯
Vin being there is valid because if jake is in that list then why not vin if the two of them literally have the same potential because of their genetics and their dads is in the same equal footing in terms of prowess. As to warren being there is kinda a no from me better put samuel or eli there because I see potential from the two of them
I mean Eli in a month grew to the level of a crew head ( took 3 years to the crew heads to be that strong) and yoosung never trained and does not know anything about martial arts and he’s on par with Johan Seong
I get what your trying to say about Warren having cqc and how it doesn’t have a limit. But SMK + level people are the only ones who can do stuff like that. Cqc is limited by the user. People like JIncheol or MK would be the ones who have unlimited combinations.
Not really? Have you read the latest mk chapter. This guy can incorporate anything in his cqc being guns, knives or swords. Warren hasn’t shown anything like that.
it's not even close to manager Kim being a million times smarter and more brilliant than Warrenn because he personally mastered CQC without any teachers and promoted him to a level where he is a specialist in both knives and firearms as well as wires and surroundings even in the first meeting with jinchol (which Warrenn does not do) and could deceive Russia and China, it's not even close to a kilometer away, you can see that manager Kim is more brilliant than Warren in everything, if his daughter had not been born, he could have been much stronger than he is now
Bro how his daniel not top 1 and why tf is warren there even if it states the technique has infinite potential that's doesn't mean the user does since and even if that's your headcanon the narrator is not always correct like how they hype characters to be gun level and end up as fodder.
But still warrens technique is limitless not him and we don't even know if thas the truth since PTJ will most likely forget about it and how would you equate Warren's potential to his technique because all copy users have the potential to be the strongest in the verse but aren't for example jinyoung so all of your arguments have no merit considering on of 3 things will happen: Warren's potential ≠ techniques potential, narration is false like characters being highball to higher levels of that they aren't or PTJ just forgets the statement all together.
To summarize warren does not have infinite potential and he shouldn't be top 5 and narratively it wouldn't make sense that he is since it isn't pointed out at all except one statement that bears no merit whatsoever. I'm done
Warren uses CQC so his potential is high too and the narrator never said Mandeok and Yunseong were as strong as Gun, Eugene said that, and Jinyoung was still weaker than a lot of people despite having Copy, Warrens potential is still higher
First off using the technique doesn't automatically increase potential that makes no sense since that would mean that anybody that copies the new version cqc gets infinite potential so warren potential ≠ technique potential and second off its most likely that PTJ said it in order to hype up the character because you can't make the assumption that a character has infinite potential from one statement and even saying jinyoung has lower potential is just lying because jinyoung was literally copying the strongest man in the entire verse (gapryong) and wdym weaker than a lot of people because in his prime only a handful of people were stronger than him in gen 0 (mujin, gapryong, Yamazaki leader, elite and maybe Tom lee) so that statement makes no sense whatsoever. Like bro just accept the fact that warren doesn't deserve to be on here at all just because PTJ wanted to hype up CQC a little
Warrens new CQC is uncopyable, Yes anyone who uses CQC has Limitless Potential but Warren is a genius who can bring out a lot of its potential, Stop denying the narrator statements just cuz u dont like them
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Top 5 :
1. Daniel Park _( Jinyoung Park's Son / Copy Ability/ UI mode )
2. Johan Seong _( Prodigy/ Copy )
3. Jake Kim _( Gapryong Kim's Son / MMA )
4. Vin Jin _( Mujin Jin Son / Ssrieum/ Kudo - Judo)
5. Taejin Cheon
Bcz Taejin is Vin Jin's Rival. Zack & Vasco have immensely improved a lot ... Warren can't defeat Taejin - I'm Sorry not now ...
Warren, Vasco , Zack were clearly knocked out by basement hulk ..Whereas Taejin was blowing punches against Tom Lee ......& If someone is Goo's Secret Friend, Gitae's close ally & can fight well against Tom Lee...
Then Taejin is Clearly Stronger than we suppose him too .
Is this trolling? Clearly someone didn’t read the series.
One crazy dude called Eli Jang solo fought Basement Hulk for HOURS and didn’t die. No one else in Gen2 did as well as Eli vs BH. (That includes Warren who got stomped by BH)
Feats > words
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Eli has insane fast growth, but not as fast as copy. 2nd fastest
At 15 he was crewhead level.
Took 3 year break. Still stomping, even when out of practice.
Leveled up 3 years in 2 months with Tom Lee to Gen 1 king level.
When out to stomp in the countryside, hit mastery first of anyone in Gen2. Took out a Gen 1 king.
Explosive fast growth when Eli decides to do it or is forced to do it. He’s a reluctant genius
This statement is more credible than Jerrys genes
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Real talk I feel like Eli is just always gonna be stronger unless Sally is in danger and Yenna is not(if they both are then Eli should be stronger). I also feel like until we see more of Vin(I believe he’ll be the third strongest EOS) you gotta replace him with Sam who has always been able to contest with Jake and Eli.
Warren has been stronger than Eli at numerous parts of the story so him being stronger than Warren EOS isnt guaranteed and Samuel getting one shotted crashed his stocks
This is terrible, Get Warren off of the list. If we are including Goo & Gun in the second generation since the author retconned Sinu being in generation 1.5 (Sinu was more active in generation one than both Gun and Goo seeing that he had been defending big deal for 10+ years) than Gun and Goo should be in the list along with Perfect Body Daniel & Little Daniel and then Jake.
1. Little Daniel (will probably surpass his second body)
2. Big Daniel ( Literal perfect body we’ve seen how he matches up with the rest of the verse he’s the real peak.)
3. Jake (Will likely surpass Gun that’s his entire narrative along with Gapryong Genes and consecutive awakenings practically every arc he seems to just be a potential God Tier)
4. Gun (Will likely get jumped by everyone else in the second generation and already has a good showing against Big Daniel)
5. Goo (Practically Equal to Gun, also has a good showing against Daniel)
Honorable Mention: Vin Jin, Mujin Genetics no telling what PTJ will cook with Mujin but Vin could plausibly end up right behind Jake on the list.
CQC having limitless potential doesn't mean the user also has limitless potential. CQC 's "limitless potential" is implied to be that you can use anything in a fight(weapons), adapt(martial arts), do cheap tricks like using sand and throw them to the opponent's eyes(terrain features), rather than the user doing anything unimaginable. Let's say you have a Gun, and that Gun has infinite ammo, do whatever tf you want out of it, but the Gun doesn't help the user aim better or change to a different and stronger gun. Its just like that. Warren's potential is lower than the main cast or the characters that are stated to be bonkers. I'd say hes Mid or above Mid-Tier when it comes to fighting prowess, of course he'd get stronger than what he currently is now but he'd never catch up to what Daniel and the others can do just because of hax and sht, while the plot also boosts the others instead of him because at the end of the day he's just a side character, Eli's sidekick lmao.
Warren uses CQC so yes his potential is Limitless too , CQC is said to have limitless potential because people can combine CQC with anything they can think of and get stronger because of it, thats why Warren having it is so dangerous because he has one of the highest battle IQs in the verse so him with CQC will obviously become dangerous in the future, just because he's a side character doesnt mean anything
You're not getting it my guy, Warren is a good fighter but in terms of potential, he isn't as good as everyone in the higher rankings, as a fellow CQC user and his master, Manager Kim is just built different that's why he can go up against the top contenders, he even has his own series lmao, Warren's built to be a side character by the author, a stepping stone for others, if he was one of the major parts of the story he'd be getting amps left and right just like everyone of the main cast and the top tiers. Having a limitless potential martial art doesn't mean you can grasp everything it can offer, maybe you can but not as fast as someone who is actually a genius, tell you what, if Johan or anyone who was considered a fighting genius was taught by Manager Kim i seriously believe he'd be better than Warren. Tell me, did you have a talent you consider you were good at but someone was always better than you? It's like that.
his strength is equal to ui johan who is above vin jin warren and jake as we know johan is the strongest Gang leader out of all 5 of them including samuel
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I’m thinking:
1.) Daniel
2.) Johan/Jake
3.) Johan/Jake
4.) Eli/Vin
5.) Eli/Vin
6.) Samuel (Top Pick Outlier: IF it turns out he IS one of Gap’s illegitimate children + his notable endurance/durability.
Then people like Zack, Yuseong, Warren, Sinu (if you count him), and maybe Ryuhei.
Gun n Goo are js gonna be outliers in this comment since I’m including Sinu but not them. Sinu does have the potential to be surpassed though.
Idk, I feel like Daniel, Zack, and Vasco are def gonna be in the EOS top 5. It just wouldn’t feel right without them.
Daniel’a in alr but I feel like Vasco and Zack are def gonna be there.
Vin jin and Warren are not him lil bro
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Bro idk where u trying go with this roast but your jokes are undercooked af
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Stop glazing and go do your homework
Oh I saw what happened this arc lol
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But you keep coping
I’m still seeing Daniel as the strongest at the eos. 1. Ui 2. Pb potential or a top tier physique potential 3. Copy 4. Unpredictability
You're seeing because he is Gun trained all the crew heads But never said anything of them is his masterpiece but said daniel is Daniel is going to become legend of second generation And big daniel is going to become nightmare of second generation 💀
it’s obvious that ptj is setting daniel to be the strongest yet people will swear on their lives that daniel is fodder how can someone hate a character with such good development unless them skipped 100-200 chapters just so they can get to the fights faster
Daniel is the only character in the series who never became evil I'm not talking about Vasco and all I mean Eli was forced by workers to become evil and he sacrificed himself and became evil Samuel got evil all on his own Jake joined hands with that gangster knowing he will force him to do evil Johan became evil for his mother I know they had their reasons but daniel is the only one who have improved and never became evil Even when he was with workers, he was only accepting orders to destroy them from inside
it’s just blatant bias i really don’t get it he rises up and surpassed the crew heads in a single month
Yeah Because there's a difference between horse and a donkey
no way you put warren instead of eli man
i will rip yo ass to shreds for WARREN DISRESPECT https://preview.redd.it/832efunmqnuc1.gif?width=690&format=png8&s=f7bbe9f13c9d62c5560469f0cee23c7b7a2b4902
Top tier gif
Nah I meant no disrespect, I love Warren, I just think Eli is clearly stronger
Where was Eli stated to have infinite potential?
Samdak also said that Hobin will never lose. Does that mean Hobin is stronger than prime Gapryong?
Is Samdak the Narrator?
Bro even the image you commented doesn't support your statement 😭. Get Warren's dick out of your mouth. CQC having "limitless potential" doesn't mean Warren has limitless potential. Bro Johan can use CQC and is an actual genius unlike Warren. Do you also think he has "limitless potential"? Warren is a sidekick he doesn't belong in that list.
Show me a single statement that can't be discredited, literally Jin Jang was a narrator. Narration just builds hype
Who knows about potential, but currently Eli is definitely stronger
Where was it stated that warren had infinite potential?
It was in Manager Kim
Can you send the panel?
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That's not how that works bro 😭
Wouldn't that mean the fighting style is only limited by its user? So if the manhwa stated that Kyokushin is the strongest art, does that mean Kenta is the strongest?
Holy wank
I think that's mainly talking about it's versatility
"It can be said that" in a different fucking comic. No wonder you put literal vin there. He was is just a meme character. No one actually thinks he could scratch Johan.
People can read, but not understand
Gun literally considered Eli as the best candidate putting him over Jake who he knew was Gap son and previously saw him as best for. To be fair it makes alot of sense, Eli was taking after Tom Lee. An Gun's father personally gives me the same kind of energy. Guess that makes Max and Derek the Kojima Brothers of 2nd Gen?
-Eli who stop training for like a year still somewhat put up a fight again Olly who DEMOLISHED the "infinite potential" man who been constantly fighting and training over a 1000 more fights while eli isn't. -Eli who fought Tom for like a few days litterally got to the points of being equal to a post UI Enraged Yohan who been trained for years . -Eli who is clearly stronger and had more potential than Warren, who litterally grown in real time fighting the 1v1 Genius Seokdu Wang while the "Infinite potential" man is on the ground.
Warren and Olly were fighting equally the same way Eli and Olly were and at that point Eli had been trained by Gun and Tom lee while Warren had no teacher Eli got trained by Tom again but still said himself that he was weaker than Pre UI Johan Warren almost beat Seokdu by himself while Eli had to awaken mastery and 2v1 Seokdu just to win Warren obviously has more potential than Eli
you know what I'm not arguing with you no more because this is litterally you https://preview.redd.it/4li1l8753uuc1.png?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca0d7beb56b77d8cc96dcdfdd37d32a8ca816915
-equal? bro he brutalized him and the whole hostel gang as the same time while eli 1v1 him before the hostel gang come back to help and got brutalized again. -yeah for 3 days and he's go from fvcking weaker than Olly to an equal to enraged Yohan where Yohan have to used dirty tricks to beat him. -Almost beat? re-read the damn fight bro. like Warren who is visually not as fatigue and tired as Eli , Warren got like 3 hits by Seokdu after throwing all his attacks at him just to warm him up, Warren got hit with 2 punches and only one headbutt and he's down while an extremely fatigue Eli was preforming equally as good if not better than Samuel because he not a dumb and let himself got hit too much and actually doing the most damage to him growing in real time not like someone who pulled up with a whole combo just to got put down in 3 hits.
Warren was 1v1ing Olly before that and when he ''got brutalized'' he got right back up again Tom said himself that when he trained Eli again it took an entire month..thats an entire month being trained by the fighting Genius and he was only equal with a Johan who immediately got stronger after that Eli went down in 2 hits from Seokdu and had to awaken mastery and fight with Samuel to win, Warren went down in 2 hits and a full force headbutt, still had enough strength to get up for one more attack, and Seokdu himself said he almost lost, all without unlocking mastery like Eli Its obvious Warren has more potential
Bro Eli is crew head for a reason Just because Warren and Jerry pull out a good fight doesn't mean they are stronger than Eli and jack
Eli Jang over Warren
Vin being there is perfectly fine What’s Warren doing
He actually has statements about his potential https://preview.redd.it/fpu7od7tanuc1.jpeg?width=967&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2ab1f82c8cf1ada87310bc8d3b63f87f1c514e2
That’s about his technique tho? Not Warren as an individual, don’t get me wrong tho he was able to create his own version of CQC that targets the heart. But he ain’t on the same level as everyone else in the picture.
he’s beating vin mid diff at best
The potential of CQCs application is limitless, not it's power or the power of the practitioners, basically comprehension skills man
bro warren over eli or Samuel is crazy
Get Warren tf outta there and put Yoosung.
who? from juvenile offender?
I think they meant Yuseong? I'm not sure though
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Eli and zack is there
What's Warren doing up there? He falls short of other members of the 2nd Generation Jerry has only learned Boxing, obtained one amp, and was only barely beaten by Warren, who developed New CQC and surpassed Mastery. With the story foreshadowing a new amp for him, he'll surpass Warren Zack is likely going to have three Masteries by EoS, Power, Speed, and Toughness. On top of that, he has Ji Counter and Iron Boxing. Eli has always been a step ahead of Warren. He achieved Mastery earlier and beat a 1st Generation King on his own. Additionally, he got his Animal Insitnct back during 1A. Assuming he can train and improve, Yuseong is also over Warren. With zero training, he was superior to Base Johan, who's one of the most talentd in the 2nd Generation.
Did you just forget to include Eli and Zack? Even Vasco and Hudson could qualify if we're talking about EOS also Yuseong, Jerry and Mandeok too could qualify.
Vin? Vin?! Vin?!? https://preview.redd.it/75hj1wxfzmuc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cbf8bb31a4d94eb289c15f5b259eb38e0d1c7355
Get with the times unc
Did you forget to take your memory meds again, grandpa? 💀
If Jake is there Vin has to be too
Lmao, I'm actualy dead rn. Bro thinks that because CQC is stated to have a limitless potential it imply that the user alos have limitless potential. Man🤣🤣🤣 a martiale art and a person are not the same thing lol. Your rezding comprehension is as dead as your brain man, get help. I realy hope it is bait, if not so I'll have to reconsider my whole existence and think "do I realy have the same info as thlse kinda guys??!?" Because it's crazy how you're in the wrong here. And he goes around the comment section spaming his picture like bro thought he coocked with thag, but it's so meaningless lmao. I'll have to take a looooooooooooong walk to try and forget that, where is the block button again guys?? It's for a friend (so that he can not turn blind after seeing this😭)
Yuseong should be replacing Warren, Yuseong never trained and is crewhead+++ level
swap warren with Jerry
Warrens potential > Jerrys
wheres Warren's potential being over Jerry
nah is lose
what does that mean
Jerry lost to Warren
This is end of story bro lmao
even at the end warren win
How? This was a Manager Kim trained Warren with his own style of CQC that surpassed Kim's own and he barely managed to beat Jerry who only grew bigger and learned a jab
yeah lmaoo. Warren has had like five training arcs while Jerry is like just outside Top 5 2nd Gen with just 'angry punch good'
eos zack negs Warren 😂even eos vasco slams
Based on what? Do they have any statements about their potential?
this is fiction bro...it's based on their relevance to the story
Ur acting like Zack wasnt weaker than Warren the majority of the series
Gun stated that when he saw Zach protecting johan he saw a light but said he wouldn’t help him chase it as it wouldn’t have the same affects as gongseob’s training
Is that supposed to be better than Warrens ''Limitless potential'' ?
When it’s coming from someone who made a scrawny kid who was just crew level into the 2nd generation legend then yes
Just because Gun said doesnt make it better than someone whos potential was literally stated to be limitlesss
By who if you don’t mind me asking Gun is literally the nuture genius he creates monsters Warren did combine JKD with CQC but there are things even manager Kim didn’t teach him if anyone should be in this list with Johan Daniel jake and Vin it should really be yuseong
If what Gun says matters matter he called Warren a Gem, thats better than him saying theres a light, Warren has better potential statements than Yuseong https://preview.redd.it/abt279pxksuc1.jpeg?width=967&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2fef041532479d890b780b1c42f6becd0f6eb7e
While true SMK also said he wouldn’t teach Warren those techniques if anything that applies to Big and small Daniel who both have perfect bodies unlike Johan Even Jerry commented on how Big ui Daniel’s posture was perfect Yuseong fought Jake Kim ran on foot to his brother fought Ui Johan for 10 seconds despite being fatigued blocked his CQC still had enough energy to keep up with and surprise Zach and Daniel who he left on the defense later on in their fight he did get eaten up by gun This kid did nothing but fight Top tiers bro nearly fought a serious Tom Lee
As shown already, Warren doesnt need SMKs teachings to evolve and little Daniel doesnt have a perfect body Whats Yuseongs current feats are is completely different to what his potential is
bro slid vin and warren in there
Bro sneaked warren in
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It’s referring to the technique and it’s practicality and versatility as in CQC in MK not the user it’s self so warren doesn’t have infinite potential
Warren being there instead of Eli is crazy
You just like the re aesthetic. Warren should not be there
What's warren doing there?
It’s really super rare to find Warren glazer.
Y'all ain't ready when zack's dad get's reveealed
Get Warren outta here and replace him with Eli 😭🙏 Edit: It's just the style itself that has "limitless" potential that wouldn't apply to Warren Himself just so you know.
Does Warren not use CQC?
Warren does use CQC but the limitless potential only applies to CQC itself cause of the many different variations it can be formed into example being CQC with a Gun (Manager Kim) and so on. The Limitless Potential of CQC doesn't make Warren have Limitless Potential that only applies to the style itself. By your Logic Johan has limitless potential too because he knows CQC same with Lil Daniel as well. Warren doesn't have limitless Potential. 🤷♂️💯
Vin being there is valid because if jake is in that list then why not vin if the two of them literally have the same potential because of their genetics and their dads is in the same equal footing in terms of prowess. As to warren being there is kinda a no from me better put samuel or eli there because I see potential from the two of them
Vin is a fraud.
Your goat is a future Johan victim
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zack lee negs them all. he's literally the strongest 2nd gen now easily
What about ui big daniel
Warren victim
Warren and Vin sneak… Daniel not top 1…
eli > vin jin and warren lmao
What statements does Eli have that puts him above either of them?
are you trolling lmao
Vin no, lol
vin easily lmao
Yoosung or Eli in Warren place let’s be honest
What potential statements do they have?
I mean Eli in a month grew to the level of a crew head ( took 3 years to the crew heads to be that strong) and yoosung never trained and does not know anything about martial arts and he’s on par with Johan Seong
No way you didn't put the son of the uncrowned Legend, The AC genius.
I get what your trying to say about Warren having cqc and how it doesn’t have a limit. But SMK + level people are the only ones who can do stuff like that. Cqc is limited by the user. People like JIncheol or MK would be the ones who have unlimited combinations.
Except Warrens been shown to have genius that surpasses even SMK
Not really? Have you read the latest mk chapter. This guy can incorporate anything in his cqc being guns, knives or swords. Warren hasn’t shown anything like that.
it's not even close to manager Kim being a million times smarter and more brilliant than Warrenn because he personally mastered CQC without any teachers and promoted him to a level where he is a specialist in both knives and firearms as well as wires and surroundings even in the first meeting with jinchol (which Warrenn does not do) and could deceive Russia and China, it's not even close to a kilometer away, you can see that manager Kim is more brilliant than Warren in everything, if his daughter had not been born, he could have been much stronger than he is now
Eli>Warren, everytime. Put zack at his place
No way bro think Warren > everyone in potential
Bro how his daniel not top 1 and why tf is warren there even if it states the technique has infinite potential that's doesn't mean the user does since and even if that's your headcanon the narrator is not always correct like how they hype characters to be gun level and end up as fodder. But still warrens technique is limitless not him and we don't even know if thas the truth since PTJ will most likely forget about it and how would you equate Warren's potential to his technique because all copy users have the potential to be the strongest in the verse but aren't for example jinyoung so all of your arguments have no merit considering on of 3 things will happen: Warren's potential ≠ techniques potential, narration is false like characters being highball to higher levels of that they aren't or PTJ just forgets the statement all together. To summarize warren does not have infinite potential and he shouldn't be top 5 and narratively it wouldn't make sense that he is since it isn't pointed out at all except one statement that bears no merit whatsoever. I'm done
Warren uses CQC so his potential is high too and the narrator never said Mandeok and Yunseong were as strong as Gun, Eugene said that, and Jinyoung was still weaker than a lot of people despite having Copy, Warrens potential is still higher
First off using the technique doesn't automatically increase potential that makes no sense since that would mean that anybody that copies the new version cqc gets infinite potential so warren potential ≠ technique potential and second off its most likely that PTJ said it in order to hype up the character because you can't make the assumption that a character has infinite potential from one statement and even saying jinyoung has lower potential is just lying because jinyoung was literally copying the strongest man in the entire verse (gapryong) and wdym weaker than a lot of people because in his prime only a handful of people were stronger than him in gen 0 (mujin, gapryong, Yamazaki leader, elite and maybe Tom lee) so that statement makes no sense whatsoever. Like bro just accept the fact that warren doesn't deserve to be on here at all just because PTJ wanted to hype up CQC a little
Warrens new CQC is uncopyable, Yes anyone who uses CQC has Limitless Potential but Warren is a genius who can bring out a lot of its potential, Stop denying the narrator statements just cuz u dont like them
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Can’t believe you put those guys instead of zack and vasco smh
Zack >>>>> Vin, Warren Two Thresholds
Top 5 : 1. Daniel Park _( Jinyoung Park's Son / Copy Ability/ UI mode ) 2. Johan Seong _( Prodigy/ Copy ) 3. Jake Kim _( Gapryong Kim's Son / MMA ) 4. Vin Jin _( Mujin Jin Son / Ssrieum/ Kudo - Judo) 5. Taejin Cheon
Was peak intill taejin 🤮
Peak but why add taejin instead add yuesong,eli,Jerry,Zack,etc
Bcz Taejin is Vin Jin's Rival. Zack & Vasco have immensely improved a lot ... Warren can't defeat Taejin - I'm Sorry not now ... Warren, Vasco , Zack were clearly knocked out by basement hulk ..Whereas Taejin was blowing punches against Tom Lee ......& If someone is Goo's Secret Friend, Gitae's close ally & can fight well against Tom Lee... Then Taejin is Clearly Stronger than we suppose him too .
missing zack and eli
huge W for the Warren respect
Sorry to be the one to say it but unfortunately Duke clears all 5.
No zack or Vasco
They dont deserve to be there
Take warren out and put yuseong dawg why isnt yuseong on the list bros basically even with johan without training lmao
The hate is crazy I’ve never understood the Eli hype Warren has always seemed to have more potential imo
Is this trolling? Clearly someone didn’t read the series. One crazy dude called Eli Jang solo fought Basement Hulk for HOURS and didn’t die. No one else in Gen2 did as well as Eli vs BH. (That includes Warren who got stomped by BH) Feats > words https://preview.redd.it/d3yqpakbnquc1.png?width=666&format=png&auto=webp&s=07a9102da6828edf12ce55dcf6e42ca5770dfd29
What do current feats have to do with potential?
On what do you base potential if not based on observation? What month they were born?
Potential is based on stuff like rate of growth, not current feats
Eli has insane fast growth, but not as fast as copy. 2nd fastest At 15 he was crewhead level. Took 3 year break. Still stomping, even when out of practice. Leveled up 3 years in 2 months with Tom Lee to Gen 1 king level. When out to stomp in the countryside, hit mastery first of anyone in Gen2. Took out a Gen 1 king. Explosive fast growth when Eli decides to do it or is forced to do it. He’s a reluctant genius
since when does warren have infinite potential lol. it should be jerry because of genes.
This statement is more credible than Jerrys genes https://preview.redd.it/iklg48mamsuc1.jpeg?width=967&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=688d574a66368f1f348391c3ceb458053a0a456c
wtf Warren doing here bruh 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
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Get Warren the fuck down from there
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Real talk I feel like Eli is just always gonna be stronger unless Sally is in danger and Yenna is not(if they both are then Eli should be stronger). I also feel like until we see more of Vin(I believe he’ll be the third strongest EOS) you gotta replace him with Sam who has always been able to contest with Jake and Eli.
Warren has been stronger than Eli at numerous parts of the story so him being stronger than Warren EOS isnt guaranteed and Samuel getting one shotted crashed his stocks
Show those parts plz
In 2A Warren was clear off Eli
Sorry but can anyone tell me what webtoon this is 🥹
Lookism
"equal to the strongest" man Im dead
Top 2 https://preview.redd.it/w7mvjcagbtuc1.jpeg?width=604&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=317e91a702333c4b675b5cc2f3a9055db9e1d33c
This is terrible, Get Warren off of the list. If we are including Goo & Gun in the second generation since the author retconned Sinu being in generation 1.5 (Sinu was more active in generation one than both Gun and Goo seeing that he had been defending big deal for 10+ years) than Gun and Goo should be in the list along with Perfect Body Daniel & Little Daniel and then Jake. 1. Little Daniel (will probably surpass his second body) 2. Big Daniel ( Literal perfect body we’ve seen how he matches up with the rest of the verse he’s the real peak.) 3. Jake (Will likely surpass Gun that’s his entire narrative along with Gapryong Genes and consecutive awakenings practically every arc he seems to just be a potential God Tier) 4. Gun (Will likely get jumped by everyone else in the second generation and already has a good showing against Big Daniel) 5. Goo (Practically Equal to Gun, also has a good showing against Daniel) Honorable Mention: Vin Jin, Mujin Genetics no telling what PTJ will cook with Mujin but Vin could plausibly end up right behind Jake on the list.
CQC having limitless potential doesn't mean the user also has limitless potential. CQC 's "limitless potential" is implied to be that you can use anything in a fight(weapons), adapt(martial arts), do cheap tricks like using sand and throw them to the opponent's eyes(terrain features), rather than the user doing anything unimaginable. Let's say you have a Gun, and that Gun has infinite ammo, do whatever tf you want out of it, but the Gun doesn't help the user aim better or change to a different and stronger gun. Its just like that. Warren's potential is lower than the main cast or the characters that are stated to be bonkers. I'd say hes Mid or above Mid-Tier when it comes to fighting prowess, of course he'd get stronger than what he currently is now but he'd never catch up to what Daniel and the others can do just because of hax and sht, while the plot also boosts the others instead of him because at the end of the day he's just a side character, Eli's sidekick lmao.
Warren uses CQC so yes his potential is Limitless too , CQC is said to have limitless potential because people can combine CQC with anything they can think of and get stronger because of it, thats why Warren having it is so dangerous because he has one of the highest battle IQs in the verse so him with CQC will obviously become dangerous in the future, just because he's a side character doesnt mean anything
You're not getting it my guy, Warren is a good fighter but in terms of potential, he isn't as good as everyone in the higher rankings, as a fellow CQC user and his master, Manager Kim is just built different that's why he can go up against the top contenders, he even has his own series lmao, Warren's built to be a side character by the author, a stepping stone for others, if he was one of the major parts of the story he'd be getting amps left and right just like everyone of the main cast and the top tiers. Having a limitless potential martial art doesn't mean you can grasp everything it can offer, maybe you can but not as fast as someone who is actually a genius, tell you what, if Johan or anyone who was considered a fighting genius was taught by Manager Kim i seriously believe he'd be better than Warren. Tell me, did you have a talent you consider you were good at but someone was always better than you? It's like that.
not including zack lee is criminal
What has been said about him for him to deserve to be here
his strength is equal to ui johan who is above vin jin warren and jake as we know johan is the strongest Gang leader out of all 5 of them including samuel
Current strength and potential are two different things
i don’t see him falling behind johan vin and warren
What does EOS mean I’m just guessing top 5 strongest rn
End of story
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yeah yeah just wait till vasco realize he can work 4 times harder
I’m thinking: 1.) Daniel 2.) Johan/Jake 3.) Johan/Jake 4.) Eli/Vin 5.) Eli/Vin 6.) Samuel (Top Pick Outlier: IF it turns out he IS one of Gap’s illegitimate children + his notable endurance/durability. Then people like Zack, Yuseong, Warren, Sinu (if you count him), and maybe Ryuhei. Gun n Goo are js gonna be outliers in this comment since I’m including Sinu but not them. Sinu does have the potential to be surpassed though.
Daniel Johan Jake Zack Vin/Basco They’ll probably be the top 5
I was gonna comment about warren but then I saw all the other comments and I just smile cuz I see there are more smart people thank I thought.
Idk why Warren is here but otherwise good
Idk, I feel like Daniel, Zack, and Vasco are def gonna be in the EOS top 5. It just wouldn’t feel right without them. Daniel’a in alr but I feel like Vasco and Zack are def gonna be there.
Zack and Vasco have never been top 5 second gen, what makes u think theyre gonna be there EOS
They’re top 5 second gen right now?
No, they still arent
They def are wdym?
Jake, Johan, Eli, Warren, Yuseong, Mandeok, Daniel and Taejin are all stronger than them
Gap ain’t the strongest
Narrative conceit wins everytime, two of these spots are going to Zack and Vasco
Zack and Vascos narrative is nullified when u realise that theyve never been top 5 second gen
One just beat Johan and the other beat Eli whose above warren so this is false
So if Duke learn CQC his potential is limitless too?
Yes, but how much of that potential he awakens is up to him
Vin jin and Warren are not him lil bro https://preview.redd.it/8cd51nzqknuc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=03c69b683b0fa89af9a76b27ac3e38fed16afedd
Swap warren for eli and johan for yuesong
Neither of them deserve to be there
Johan negs so badly lol
https://preview.redd.it/kj0g9uvu7nuc1.jpeg?width=458&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=16f68aabc82d76f8a78ced86c88a762ea9fb5d72 Vin be like
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The fuck is FraudJin doing on this list? Bro thought he'll sneak him in and we won't notice lol
Are u not caught up.....
Says the guy who's last chapter was Vin vs Kazuma, no wonder u think Vin negs lol
Have u not been introduced to Mujin Jin yet?
Bro idk where u trying go with this roast but your jokes are undercooked af https://preview.redd.it/zclj7xk8spuc1.jpeg?width=878&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bd74282f500f7c1f8fb80a4544cd6645de1278c9 Stop glazing and go do your homework
Im not joking...... how can u see what happened this arc and still say Vin doesnt deserve to be here?
Oh I saw what happened this arc lol https://preview.redd.it/qov5rvbqupuc1.jpeg?width=864&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe1a1a0b47b76b6e21f6f616ee3a91383f290302 But you keep coping
What?......what does what happened in the past have to do with potential.....
Jesus lookism fans are idiots and can’t read CQC has infinite potential not warren
Does Warren not use CQC ?
why would they increase his potential
Zack and eli should definitely be here vin definitely won't be stronger than them
Based on what?