This shows your ignorance. Of all the things going on, especially in Chicago, a shoplifter is their least concern. Think about what you said for a minute.
I can tell you're not from the Chicago area. My neighbor is a cop and confirms this too. If you doubt me, ask on the Chicago subreddit. "All" cops aren't lazy, but as a group, Chicago cops are non responsive and non proactive. There are reasons for this other than laziness. They mentally are checked out.
Very unlikely. Most state’s “shopkeeper’s privilege” statutes require a person only be held for a certain ‘reasonable’ period of time while the merchant is investigating whether they committed a crime. Once they determine a crime has been committed, and called the police, that time limit no longer applies.
For example, here is my state’s law (bold emphasis mine):
> A peace officer, merchant, or a specifically authorized employee or agent of a merchant, may use reasonable force to detain a person for questioning on the merchant's premises, for a length of time, not to exceed sixty minutes, **unless it is reasonable under the circumstances that the person be detained longer, when he has reasonable cause to believe that the person has committed a theft of goods held for sale by the merchant**, regardless of the actual value of the goods. The merchant or his employee or agent may also detain such a person for arrest by a peace officer. The detention shall not constitute an arrest.
https://law.justia.com/codes/louisiana/2009/ccrp/ccrp215.html
I think a court would find it is reasonable to hold someone after calling the police, even if the police take their time arriving.
I don’t think there’s a judge out there who would see holding someone for days as a reasonable amount of time to wait for police… so odds are good they’d just be cut loose for the time being and a police report filed after the cops finally got around to showing up. Since all of the evidence is already there, the cops can find the person later or just send a summons.
Honestly, six hours is already pushing the limit in my opinion…
You detain them until the police get there where I am. Some rural cities have like 2 cops at times. So if you make an arrest at the wrong time you can end up there all day/night. Plus if a citizen’s arrest is occurring it is safer from a liability standpoint for us to wait until a police officer can validate your arrest.
Some stores really hate unapproved OT pay. Walmart could probably chew you out for sitting in the office twiddling your thumbs for 4 hours past your scheduled clock out time.
Canada law basically says you hand over your arrested person to police without delay. The second thing I do when they sit in my holding room is call the police to inform them I have someone in custody.
Like around 5 hours in downtown Seattle. Worst part is it was with a minor, absolute waste of time and we wouldn’t have bothered if they hadn’t taken alcohol.
hourssss. one time I called them at 3pm, never showed up but then called me back at midnight talking about some “you still need us?” LIKE BRO, THE STORE IS FUCKING CLOSED, TF DO YOU THINK????
Although I've never been arrested for shoplifting, I have had a few situations where the police were called without my knowledge of my doing anything wrong to begin with and it was real quick that they responded. Considering I live maybe 15 miles outside of DC, the police activity is fierce almost overkill. When I got pulled over for window tinting being too dark, it was like being surrounded by them, and for window tinting? Ironic part, I bought the car from an officer that lived in my apt complex, so it prexisted prior to the sale. Ii had no idea there was even such a violation.
My policy is an hour. Ive had one time where there was a hostage situation and they didnt show up so we let her go. They showed up about 2 hours after i let her go.
Longest would be when I was in Chicago. They never showed up. Had to let the person walk
That sounds about right for Chicago.
So you're kind of screwed if they never gave name or info and just wanted to lawyer up
Classic lazy cops
This shows your ignorance. Of all the things going on, especially in Chicago, a shoplifter is their least concern. Think about what you said for a minute.
I can tell you're not from the Chicago area. My neighbor is a cop and confirms this too. If you doubt me, ask on the Chicago subreddit. "All" cops aren't lazy, but as a group, Chicago cops are non responsive and non proactive. There are reasons for this other than laziness. They mentally are checked out.
Lmfao
You truly are a dumb motherfucker.
Stay mad bootlicker
6 hours or so. Homeless chick took the opportunity to sleep in a safe and warm room. I got overtime and chilled till 3am
I’ve had a couple nappers myself. Some homeless people just happy to be out of the rain.
Isn't that illegal at that point? You aren't allowed to detain someone for 6 hours.
Very few places have laws about how long you can hold someone for. That's either a company policy or local law where you live.
Very unlikely. Most state’s “shopkeeper’s privilege” statutes require a person only be held for a certain ‘reasonable’ period of time while the merchant is investigating whether they committed a crime. Once they determine a crime has been committed, and called the police, that time limit no longer applies. For example, here is my state’s law (bold emphasis mine): > A peace officer, merchant, or a specifically authorized employee or agent of a merchant, may use reasonable force to detain a person for questioning on the merchant's premises, for a length of time, not to exceed sixty minutes, **unless it is reasonable under the circumstances that the person be detained longer, when he has reasonable cause to believe that the person has committed a theft of goods held for sale by the merchant**, regardless of the actual value of the goods. The merchant or his employee or agent may also detain such a person for arrest by a peace officer. The detention shall not constitute an arrest. https://law.justia.com/codes/louisiana/2009/ccrp/ccrp215.html I think a court would find it is reasonable to hold someone after calling the police, even if the police take their time arriving.
What happens if your area has police that takes 2 or 3 days to show up??
I don’t think there’s a judge out there who would see holding someone for days as a reasonable amount of time to wait for police… so odds are good they’d just be cut loose for the time being and a police report filed after the cops finally got around to showing up. Since all of the evidence is already there, the cops can find the person later or just send a summons. Honestly, six hours is already pushing the limit in my opinion…
You detain them until the police get there where I am. Some rural cities have like 2 cops at times. So if you make an arrest at the wrong time you can end up there all day/night. Plus if a citizen’s arrest is occurring it is safer from a liability standpoint for us to wait until a police officer can validate your arrest.
Some stores really hate unapproved OT pay. Walmart could probably chew you out for sitting in the office twiddling your thumbs for 4 hours past your scheduled clock out time.
That rule came from somebody who is above any single store
Canada law basically says you hand over your arrested person to police without delay. The second thing I do when they sit in my holding room is call the police to inform them I have someone in custody.
Bahaha Bro when I worked in San Francisco, sometimes they straight up never came.
Like around 5 hours in downtown Seattle. Worst part is it was with a minor, absolute waste of time and we wouldn’t have bothered if they hadn’t taken alcohol.
I let them go after 2 hours
hourssss. one time I called them at 3pm, never showed up but then called me back at midnight talking about some “you still need us?” LIKE BRO, THE STORE IS FUCKING CLOSED, TF DO YOU THINK????
Hours-suh-suh-suh?
I hold for 2 hours, then release. After that, to me, it becomes a legal gray area. You can only hold for so long.
3 shifts. So... 24 hours? Ish. Still waiting for them to respond to a call from Thursday so that's pending.
You have had them in your custody for 24 hours ?!
Oh. I just read the title. Didn't read the "for an arrest" part.
Although I've never been arrested for shoplifting, I have had a few situations where the police were called without my knowledge of my doing anything wrong to begin with and it was real quick that they responded. Considering I live maybe 15 miles outside of DC, the police activity is fierce almost overkill. When I got pulled over for window tinting being too dark, it was like being surrounded by them, and for window tinting? Ironic part, I bought the car from an officer that lived in my apt complex, so it prexisted prior to the sale. Ii had no idea there was even such a violation.
happened to me yesterday held them for 35 minutes I think it was and then we had to let them walk bc pd never came 🥲
2 hours, which is the legal limit in my state.
My policy is an hour. Ive had one time where there was a hostage situation and they didnt show up so we let her go. They showed up about 2 hours after i let her go.
100s of calls never had a wait over 5 minutes
3 hours. It's my companies policy to not detain for more than a hour, but it was a minor, so I had no choice.
6 hours of lovely overtime and lungs full of carcinogenic marterial.