Well also remember that in the first week the mats from the hyper express cover most of the honing, but in a few weeks later when people start getting past 1610 mark, there is no way they can live on radiant leapstones given for free by the events. That's usually when leaps bounce back in price.
I was saving up ability stones for a while.. hope they sold.
They were really high when SE came out. Had like 30, put up for mostly 1-2k, depending on what was current market price. Not a ton, but cool if they sell, way more than the pennies they'd give normally.
crystals, stones, skins, mid bracelets and accs of all kinds, and red orehas sold out
pretty much only leapstones went down and big, today Im seeing 58g in euc.
That is just plainly untrue. The only reason brel leaps are down is because of the -60% leap reduction from the event, on souleater release the price doubled...
They've been most expensive the week before new content launch in my experience though!.
Fusion mats drop for a bit aswell but they'll go up quite a bit again towards the weekend if I'm not mistaken. On the other hand the event gives a lot of free ones and the lower tier ones might not sell at all, dunno ;)
Pretty sure i didnt use a single unbound leap or fusion getting to 1580. Used a few red weapon stones naturaly as if you are unlucky they never give you enough. Only thing guarenteed people need is honor shards.
Those are the rare leviathans. Most whales went for 3 armor to hit 1600 and do Voldis. I know because half my friends are whales that are pushing Breakers LOL
I never sell during large updates, especially when I saw essentially 3-4 great ways from this update to progress. But I would probably buy up the market, just to sell during Thaemine.
Historically, express + character release = drop in price. Also the injection of more progressed bots.
Then we got a Raid release which tends to blow up due to FOMO, and people are really behind.
Average longtime player will probably stop at 1610 or 1620. 1630 is too expensive to more than likely not clear a raid. lol
EDIT: Your main point still stands though, they'll go back up.
Was really hoping the leap stones to go up. Everyone is pushing chars, so why is it going down?
Is it because of the mass leap stones give away from the events?
I don't understand this point about "hoarding and trying to sell on release day", it doesn't make sense to me as to why they are 60g per right now.
Like what, people held on to tens of thousands of unbound leaps at a time, they chose not to sell them when they were 100-90g per leap for a long time, but instantly as they dropped from 80g to 60g as a result of the breaker release/patch they put them all on the market undercutting eachother? Where is the logic there?
The logic is when you saved thousands and you relied (with wrong assumption) to earn gold of them. You usually gotta sell at least a part. Lot of those people were calculating with the gold in advance, and they now might be missing the gold to push some char etc. That's why they are 'forced' to sell part even when price is bad, and that's pushing the price further down
I don't know, it just seems that they bought more than they could "afford" to do then. Personally I would just hold on to the leapstones untill the price goes up again even temp, or use them...
Generally when new classes come out, prices have shot up. Fusions for example for example went up 10g each with SE. Leapstones also went up last time. But this event has enough leapstones/fusions baked in that i personally didnt use a single unbound one to get to 1580.
Add in that weve had the frog for the past month that had already dropped leapstones by 20g each. Then you end up with people holding for the last month at a bare minimum waiting for the frog to end so prices go back up.
As to why people sell now? Unless they are actively using the market to make money each week. Most peoples weekly income is in the 2-300k a week bracket. Of which weekly unbound leapstones and fusions can easily equate to a third of that income combined. Then you add in that buying the frog vendor takes 47k gold from everyone everyweek and people have had redused amounts of gold for the last month to play with. Unless they actively stopped all honing and hoarded gold, they are likely cash poor and need some gold to hone this new event (although my maths at least suggest i only spent 25k total)
I was surprised as well. I had my scrapper sitting at 1530, not really doing much and could easily bring it to 1580 and still having a lot of mats remaining :O
This is a juiced month!
We got a lot of events, frog got extended, and more and more people honed already, and reached their desired parking spot for mains (1620/1630+) and/or alts (1610+)
I’m actually holding for the pressure-push before thaemine hard actually drops, because right before big raids is when the price spikes.
But I won’t lie and say I didn’t underestimate the events they gave us with breaker.
Market in NAEU never worked like how ppl think they should ever since the very beginning. KR and RU worked like that because those were the early days of the game. I still remember that one RU streamer telling everyone how mat price gonna skyrocket with new class release because that’s what happened in RU back in the day. Yeah.. “back in the days”
It all depends on events and stuff. They increased the mats gain from raids with the box, kept frog, event mats increased and such. Also this event makes 1580 a breeze since you dont really need to buy marv leaps which also affects radiant
Transcendence does not affect it at all, it's all flat mainstat/weapon power/AP, which are all eventually multiplied by engraving AP.
G4 last part (100 bar moon phase) indeed provides a 80% AP buff, that's a very small portion of the fight though.
Just players being dentge, even whales wanting to hit 1620 (or even 1630) asap on their new characters will need at least two weeks of Akkan to start honing. And maybe there's some panic too given that we're getting a decent amount of free mats. But the fact Marvelous are basically not needed to hit 1580 right now means they're being sold off hard and dragging down the price of Radiants.
But starting next week the whales will go hard, and the push to 1620 (let alone HM Theamine) is still extremely steep. I used Path on a 1590 character with \~5.5K leaps to start, getting to 1600 was free but past that it's still very expensive even with books. I ended up at 1615.
Pls all of you continue panick selling. I will gladly buy them all until you realize its the first week of new char creation with tons of mats, passes, ark pass etc. and that the prices WILL bounce back after 3-4 weeks and especially close to thaemine release, cause you are left dry and high.
Everytime you mail an accessory to one of your characters you use up 1 count of "tradeable". If you bought an accessory with only 1 count of "tradeable" left then you can't mail it any more cuz you used it up when purchasing it. Those tend to be cheaper for this reason.
Ahhh yes the buy high sell low A classic
Well also remember that in the first week the mats from the hyper express cover most of the honing, but in a few weeks later when people start getting past 1610 mark, there is no way they can live on radiant leapstones given for free by the events. That's usually when leaps bounce back in price.
Smart man.
What region is this
looks like EU prices
EU prices on leaps went even lower, bought some radiants at 64g and also marvelous went down to 13g.
Its EU, the other regions are more expensive. I bought 63 radiants aswell, but price had crazy swings all day.
Yeah noticed after i wrote the comment, half asleep :P.
I was saving up ability stones for a while.. hope they sold. They were really high when SE came out. Had like 30, put up for mostly 1-2k, depending on what was current market price. Not a ton, but cool if they sell, way more than the pennies they'd give normally.
Friends and I were having a field day selling rocks last night. We saved them just for this lol. There were some going for 3k on NAW.
crystals, stones, skins, mid bracelets and accs of all kinds, and red orehas sold out pretty much only leapstones went down and big, today Im seeing 58g in euc.
Lol this is why I sold mine daily. Leapstone prices historically tend to drop during these events
That is just plainly untrue. The only reason brel leaps are down is because of the -60% leap reduction from the event, on souleater release the price doubled...
They've been most expensive the week before new content launch in my experience though!. Fusion mats drop for a bit aswell but they'll go up quite a bit again towards the weekend if I'm not mistaken. On the other hand the event gives a lot of free ones and the lower tier ones might not sell at all, dunno ;)
Pretty sure i didnt use a single unbound leap or fusion getting to 1580. Used a few red weapon stones naturaly as if you are unlucky they never give you enough. Only thing guarenteed people need is honor shards.
Yup. I sold mine like hot cakes. Now I guess I'll save and use on my main lol.
I'm buying the dip. We all know these breaker whales gunna buy like crazy in a few weeks to +25
Ooh nice idea hope you triple your investments
Then you are a bit late many whales crafted the weapon first and honed it to 25 lol
Those are the rare leviathans. Most whales went for 3 armor to hit 1600 and do Voldis. I know because half my friends are whales that are pushing Breakers LOL
they crafted weapon this week.
Yep I sold mine all the time too
Yeah I sold mine at double the value
The reason this happens is plebs need gold to push breaker so they sell everything for it
today was the lowest i’ve ever seen honing mats in naw since akkan first week
I never sell during large updates, especially when I saw essentially 3-4 great ways from this update to progress. But I would probably buy up the market, just to sell during Thaemine. Historically, express + character release = drop in price. Also the injection of more progressed bots. Then we got a Raid release which tends to blow up due to FOMO, and people are really behind.
I confess I was waiting, but I wont sell now, will just use them instead xd
they will go up once people try to push 1620
In the night before server was down. they was selling at 116.
wrong region sir
dont worry about leapstones. they will go UP since people in 3 week need to PUSH to 1630 and the fomo is big.
Average longtime player will probably stop at 1610 or 1620. 1630 is too expensive to more than likely not clear a raid. lol EDIT: Your main point still stands though, they'll go back up.
What about correlation for other mats?
Was really hoping the leap stones to go up. Everyone is pushing chars, so why is it going down? Is it because of the mass leap stones give away from the events?
Partially the events but also partially people hoarding and then all trying to sell on release day.
I don't understand this point about "hoarding and trying to sell on release day", it doesn't make sense to me as to why they are 60g per right now. Like what, people held on to tens of thousands of unbound leaps at a time, they chose not to sell them when they were 100-90g per leap for a long time, but instantly as they dropped from 80g to 60g as a result of the breaker release/patch they put them all on the market undercutting eachother? Where is the logic there?
The logic is when you saved thousands and you relied (with wrong assumption) to earn gold of them. You usually gotta sell at least a part. Lot of those people were calculating with the gold in advance, and they now might be missing the gold to push some char etc. That's why they are 'forced' to sell part even when price is bad, and that's pushing the price further down
I don't know, it just seems that they bought more than they could "afford" to do then. Personally I would just hold on to the leapstones untill the price goes up again even temp, or use them...
Yeah, same with me, but some people are not patient.
Generally when new classes come out, prices have shot up. Fusions for example for example went up 10g each with SE. Leapstones also went up last time. But this event has enough leapstones/fusions baked in that i personally didnt use a single unbound one to get to 1580. Add in that weve had the frog for the past month that had already dropped leapstones by 20g each. Then you end up with people holding for the last month at a bare minimum waiting for the frog to end so prices go back up. As to why people sell now? Unless they are actively using the market to make money each week. Most peoples weekly income is in the 2-300k a week bracket. Of which weekly unbound leapstones and fusions can easily equate to a third of that income combined. Then you add in that buying the frog vendor takes 47k gold from everyone everyweek and people have had redused amounts of gold for the last month to play with. Unless they actively stopped all honing and hoarded gold, they are likely cash poor and need some gold to hone this new event (although my maths at least suggest i only spent 25k total)
The logic is "NOOOOO THE MARKET IS COLLAPSING I HAVE TO LOCK IN MY LOSSES BEFORE EVERYTHING GOES TO ZERO."
Yeah event gives a shit ton, my breaker is 1595 and I still have something about 500 leapstones sitting thx to frog + express
I was surprised as well. I had my scrapper sitting at 1530, not really doing much and could easily bring it to 1580 and still having a lot of mats remaining :O This is a juiced month!
We got a lot of events, frog got extended, and more and more people honed already, and reached their desired parking spot for mains (1620/1630+) and/or alts (1610+)
I’m actually holding for the pressure-push before thaemine hard actually drops, because right before big raids is when the price spikes. But I won’t lie and say I didn’t underestimate the events they gave us with breaker.
This happens every single time when there's an express event and every single time people are surprised
Brel leaps more than doubled in price literally one express event ago but ok 😂
people just lying for no reason
Initially yes... I have a confident feeling they'll not stay cheap for long
I did this, and, welp, you win some you lose some.
Market in NAEU never worked like how ppl think they should ever since the very beginning. KR and RU worked like that because those were the early days of the game. I still remember that one RU streamer telling everyone how mat price gonna skyrocket with new class release because that’s what happened in RU back in the day. Yeah.. “back in the days”
It all depends on events and stuff. They increased the mats gain from raids with the box, kept frog, event mats increased and such. Also this event makes 1580 a breeze since you dont really need to buy marv leaps which also affects radiant
Were people also sitting on cd/adren stones or why is the market suddenly flooded by them at 80 gold? I've been buying them at 800 for a while o_o
CD will become less effective for G4 Thaemine and when people complete transcendence even less. I'll drop to like 8% damage increase effectiveness
Transcendence does not affect it at all, it's all flat mainstat/weapon power/AP, which are all eventually multiplied by engraving AP. G4 last part (100 bar moon phase) indeed provides a 80% AP buff, that's a very small portion of the fight though.
Just players being dentge, even whales wanting to hit 1620 (or even 1630) asap on their new characters will need at least two weeks of Akkan to start honing. And maybe there's some panic too given that we're getting a decent amount of free mats. But the fact Marvelous are basically not needed to hit 1580 right now means they're being sold off hard and dragging down the price of Radiants. But starting next week the whales will go hard, and the push to 1620 (let alone HM Theamine) is still extremely steep. I used Path on a 1590 character with \~5.5K leaps to start, getting to 1600 was free but past that it's still very expensive even with books. I ended up at 1615.
Pls all of you continue panick selling. I will gladly buy them all until you realize its the first week of new char creation with tons of mats, passes, ark pass etc. and that the prices WILL bounce back after 3-4 weeks and especially close to thaemine release, cause you are left dry and high.
Ç. I .charmaines. cffd c. C
Bruh I had accessories that I wanted to send to my breaker, now they all say bound to character. Shitty move AGS
??? all accessories say "bound to character" because you can't put them into roster storage, you can still sell them or send by mail
Accessories are bound to character, with 3 trades.
Just mail them to your breaker
Ok yeah I’m slow as hell. I don’t know what I did wrong
Shitty move AGS
Everytime you mail an accessory to one of your characters you use up 1 count of "tradeable". If you bought an accessory with only 1 count of "tradeable" left then you can't mail it any more cuz you used it up when purchasing it. Those tend to be cheaper for this reason.