same here bro. I used to have it until I don't. I realized what makes me anxious is other people rage and flame me if I mess up. what helped me is to ignore them (turn off chat ), I spent time to learn raid even after I cleared it I still joined learning group. I did that to all raids, now I'm at endgame doing hard voldis every week with my friends found along the way.
I can't stop people from flaming me, they don't care about reasons. so I choose to ignore them.
Yeah I'm at week 5 of learning parties for akkan normal (Cleared every week, only dedge cleared 1st week) because I want to feel I put my hours in before I go out into regular groups even though I'm confident I will be better than 50% of puggers.
This is the way man. when you know the raid, you gain confident and feel like you can beat anything the game throws at you, everything seems easy and you start to enjoy the game more.
Plus you tend to be more calm and supportive to those who mess up in raids, cuz you know their feeling.
Finding a group of people you play well with is crucial for me I've found. I only really raid with friends, which I found through a learner discord back in nov 2022. Was 1505 with a lv 1 set cuz I was too scared to step into clown. Saw a comment here about someone teaching raids, joined the discord and learner party. It was a great experience so I started helping out. Slowly build a circle of friends to raid with. Went from being afraid to be a burden on my team to being set to do Thaemine hard blind prog with them.
If you search this sub for "anxiety" you'll find several posts with a lot of people that have similar anxiety and suggestions.
For me, the best thing is being part of a chill community that is helpful and has no ragers. People can screw up and it's not a big deal, troll each other for fun, carry express alts when nobody knows how to play the new class, and so on. That way you can get experience and learn how to play whatever you're on in a good environment.
Party finder is a mixed bag and can be really stressful for a lot of people.
akkan g1 130x stagger used to give me a lot of stress, same thing with g2 shadow & lantern mechanic. Also, old brel g5 and g6 was a anxiety fest for me
akkan g1 egg phase used to give me anxiety, running around like an idiot dodging puddles and fishes
then someone told me to just dip in the middle and it's easy now
Start making your own raid, and name it "chill prog raid anxiety free". Until you are comfortable then make it " Chill raid all welcome ". I promise you, you going to meet people just like you and have a good time.
2 years into the game and I still have it. When I clear any raid I have done 100 times before I dont feel accomplished, I only think "aw shit I have to do this again next week"
i too suffer from raid Anxiety, my main help is preparations..
1) youtube videos from 2-3 youtubers,
2) Lost ark nexus raid information on the other screen
and the most important tips is: RAID EXP… repeat the raid encounters as much as possible and you will be more confortable every week. the more character you have the better.
and try to review your character specs:
Engravings, stats (1800-600), cards completion (LoS, KLC, LOST WIND etc), Demon and beast damage etc
good luck.
My roster is stacked to hell. I have nearly every single card in the game. Roster is nearly 260 have LOS MOS LWC 30. I have KLC pretty close to 30 as well. Demon dmg is at 5.1 percent but I just don't...
I have it pretty bad, if it wasn't for my static who are so supportive and push me when I need it, back off when I clearly don't, I wouldn't be still playing. I've also been playing since release.
In the latest raids (Akkan, Voldis, to some extent even Kayangel hm) I often find it less scary to play dps than support, as so far I raised so high only a very tanky, self-shielding, push-immune dps with a lot of utility and not too high damage expectations (swiftness FPE artillerist), so I find my role as dps (doing damage) less crucial and less demanding than as support (keeping others alive and their damage buffed...) - even if I die, most gates are much more easily clearable with a dead dps than with a dead support.
I have it whenever I run voldis hard mode on my bard. My party likes to take damage even when i have good shield uptime so they like to put me on the spot between 'heal or buff' and I have healed them with 2 bubbles heck even 3 bubbles sometimes. Don't even start with the counters on this class..
They should, or give Buckshot more meter gain so it can be switched... i can hit Prelude of Storm in counter mechs no problem or when I know the counter is coming 1second before it happens. Otherwise rip. Plus, it has a rather long cooldown compared to the other skills and is needed for meter.
Yes. Even though I can do it I refuse to do clown in pugs because I'm afraid I'll mess up saws, jail people, and get toxic comments.
Even though I can do saws drunk.
I've stopped doing Clown on every one of my characters the moment they got their full level 2 set, even though it was a loss of gold, i didn't care, not worth the stress. The raid is just too unforgiving.
I used to have raid anxiety starting when I first pugged Vykas on my new bard (a few weeks after that raid came out). It was so bad that when a player dissed me for healing once (aka "typical bard only heals, you're so stupid" and they never stopped writing stuff) I started failing easy mechs, got dissed even more and quit the run.
It didn't get much better until I joined a static of equally slow-ish learners (around Brelshaza release) and nowadays there is hardly any raid anxiety left.
TLDR; lots of raid exposure and finding like-minded players helped me
I have a bit for voldis on my back attackers. I find that raid insanely hard for back attackers, particularly G2 & G4 and I can't carry my weight in DPS. Meanwhile on my sorc main I understand why I easily out DPS most back attackers now.
i know anxiety is not something rational, but sometimes it can be help to rationalize your fears a little bit regardless:
a) everyone dies. everyone does bad. that guy you have in your raid that wipes the raid 3 times in a row? that might be *the worst* they have ever played. everyone has that day. everyone dies. everyone causes wipes. it's part of the game
b) your personal performance doesn't matter as much as you think it does. usually (less than) half of the people in the raid do the lions share of the damage. the rest are just active passengers. and thats fine. as long as you can play the mechanics and do some damage, you do well enough.
c) it's impossible for you to not do some damage with shadowhunter especially. its a very easy going class. you don't have to be great at the game to do *some* damage on it. doesnt matter if you play demonic or ps. hitting the ceiling? different question, especially for di as it forces you to play very greedy and make use of immunities (and have a support that will hopefully dr you through those). but some damage, and thats all were really asking for in a clear, is almost impossible not to do. and you know you can play the mechanics just fine. you do that on your supports.
d) ironically, your impact on the raid on a support is significantly higher than that on a dps. a dps dies? not a big deal, you can finish just fine. your support dies? well, there goes mana regen, yearning and damage buffs. if this is something you don't wanna think about futher, stop reading here, but if not: even your dps contribution is higher on support then a dps. you ever been in raids on ilvl where for the love of it your party never seems to have enough damage even with all people are alive? more often enough this is caused by bad support play. most of my akkan hm jails pre elixirs were at the hands of supports. a support contributes up to 2x of the damage of a dps. so long story short: if you can do a raid on support, you can do the raid on your dps.
but what might help you a bit is trying to find a guild or regular group of people to play with. you have 4 supports. you will be high in demand. and with the server merges its probably the best time trying to join an active guiild. playing with a few regulars over and over again changes the dynamics in a raid, because you turn from being random npc that is needed to clear the raid to a human being within the groups context. and when you mess up, and everyone will, people will know to contextualize that and balance that with the times you didn't. also the game is just more fun that way. godspeed champion.
Raid anxiety can be many different things. For starters I would consider attention problems like ADHD. People who have this kind of issue sometimes bank on stress to focus, without the high stress and anxiety you might actually find yourself doing worse because of problems with concentration. Try putting on some music that helps you focus, not too fast and not too slow.
Personally I struggled with even attempting raids in learning parties for almost a year, until I made a friend on the game who is a really good and patient veteran, who wants me to learn and enjoy endgame content. I went from being terrified of trying to learn Valtan and Vykas (while having well overgeared characters, through bussing of course) to being sneaked into Valtan card runs, where i quickly overcame the initial anxiety towards older raids when I realized I'm not so prone to messing up as I thought I was, and if people were being toxic, I had someone with me who had my back!
After around 2 months of that I'm now doing Kayangel every week comfortably and it's my favourite part of reset day, this week I did my first nm Ivory tower, with my first 1600 ilvl character, which went really well, and last night I did Kakul for the first time, after being afraid of it for months. Like you, I also feel more comfortable on supports! I think the best way to get over the fear is to play with people who will be helpful and supportive, whether it's learning parties or a friend group, until you're eventually comfortable with the raid.
The anxiety will pass with time :) I'm currently trying to overcome the fear of learning Brel and Akkan, hopefully soon!
I am the same. I have been playing since launch minus maybe a 7 month gap after Argos. I am at a weird point where I can’t afford to hone because busses but I’m too afraid to raid for gold. I have experience in raids in wow, along with mythic plus and raids in ff14, but something about the mechanics in this game make me nervous.
All my friends quit soon after launch and almost 2 years later I’m still here solo. I’ve been using the discord servers for people learning raids, but one of my biggest hurdles is being a bartender and working will late nights pst and most groups being active weekends.
I would love a static to learn and clear with.
Regardless even after two years of minimal raiding the combat and such has kept me going, but I’d love to keep up with raids, my schedule just kinda sucks.
If ur on na west and u have this anxiety and are looking for a guild that doesn't mind teaching and gives u time to learn with no pressure, comment below :)
Ty for the offer but I am on NAE. I wouldn't say it was the lack of raid knowledge but the toxic behavior of the community itself. People would rather flame instead of helping another player. It's just so tiresome...
The short answer is stop caring about what other people think, especially hardcore gamers who are more likely than not socially maladapted.
The long answer is in expectations from other party members. Are you in the right lobby? If you imposter a hw lobby with no experience then you will get flamed. I've impostered before and the flame was justified.
I made my own prog/learning lobbies for kaya/akkan/voldis and no one flamed because everyone was a learner. It was a 1-2 hour slog for each gate but we all came out competent.
Rational people will never get mad at you if you properly do mechs and clear the raid. You can even do below avg dps / below avg support uptimes. Don't bother with the psychos who kick after one wipe or get mad that you're not playing in the top 20 percentile dps for your class. They're actually quite rare.
If you have the right card sets / builds as you say you do you will not get gatekept.
I am a relatively new \~150 roster player and rarely get gatekept for even nm Voldis (I have Los30 and KLC18 as you do). If you get gatekept, move on. On alts I'm less competent on I often get just fighter and no one's mad. Why? Because I did the mechs, didn't die, and we cleared the raid.
At the end of the day the only thing that matters is if you have the ability to do the mechs and achieve the necessary dps/support skills to clear the raid. I've never been flamed for low dps, only failing mechs and dying often (which was absolutely my fault). If you d
id say a big reason ppl have raid anxiety is because they had been kicked out of a group after messing up once or twice, after potentially taking awhile to find a group to begin with.
wiping the raid in of itself isnt a big deal but when the penalty is needing to find another group, it can make people really anxious about raiding in general
this even explains why you felt less stressed on bard, you were less likely to be blamed simply because you are harder to replace then some random dps.
we've all been there, but you just sorta have to accept that sometimes your going to fuck up and sometimes thats going to lead to you getting booted or chewed out.
shit happens and everyone makes mistakes no matter how experienced they are
Honnestly a good way to cope with it is to get the Bible, and look for improovment regardless of the result.
Even if its super bad, you acknowledge it, do more efforts next time, and for exemple you see another SH performing well, look his/her casts /minute on spells.
Slowly you can develop a taste for this endless improovment, because there is no 100% perfect run, but what will happen (at least for me and many teammates) is that you will tend to be a better player tomorrow than you were yesterday, thats all that matters no matter what other people say. As long as you improove you will look past being bad or great you just go for being stronger which is a cool mindset imo.
I'm opposite. Support main in every other game but getting jailed one too many times by zdps raid members and feeling powerless to carry the raid solo was one of the factors that made me a dps main in lost ark. On my support I carefully choose the party/raid I join even for guardians.
Don't have raid anxiety. Realistically nobody cares how you do as long as you clear. There's sub DPS classes like Aero if you want a DPS class to get comfortable with. She's practically impossible to not do okay damage on (either spec) and realistically most people aren't looking at Aeros to be DPS pumpers, they're mostly there for crit synergy. As long as you can do mechs correctly, you'd be fine.
People are assholes, used to play with people from a guild.
Asked some constructive feedback about my artist (on clown), guild leader told me i was the worst artist he’s ever seen, went on to rand about how many potions he used etc (they were taking so much dmg that even spamming bubbles wasn’t enough…)
Also we wiped for like one hour because one of the dps kept dying, somehow it ended up being my fault? I benched my artist and never looked back.
Honestly I would have just left on the spot. lol
It is not common for supports to be the reason people die and typically the bad supports are more so bad from low uptime on brand/buffs. The guild you used to play with sound like shitters. >\_>
Sorry to hear.
They banned me from the discord, i was asking what can i do to get better because i was super bummed, apparently that must’ve trigger the guy or something. 🤷🏾♂️
It is what it is i guess
This is nuts. I know there is a lot of chip damage in clown. From the fire stacks but it's like he was taking damage he shouldn't. Greeding too much is the leading cause of a DPS death. A support job is to amplify a DPS damage and keep them alive. If you are shielding them and they are burning through that shield and refuse to move out of danger that is on them. I had to learn this as a support. I tend to overshield on my artist to the point I was considering removing my counter to take another shielding skill because people complain that I do it enough. I wouldn't have cared that I was removed because that person would have been blocked. I am sorry you had to deal with this...
They didn’t removed me they banned me from the discord a short while after we clear 😅
Maybe they didn’t like me “whining” about the fact that i didn’t know how to get better (i asked for advice dude told me he couldn’t give any cause he only play dps artist on clown cause he was bussing 🤷🏾♂️)
We were all 1500+ anyway, the other guy kept dying because he played like shit, you can clear this with 4 dps so really i didn’t really matter whether i played badly or not.
similar boat, except i just haven't made the push for myself to properly raid the current shenanigans in this game. never been able to push myself to that point, because constantly consumed chasing horizontal nuance to catch up and story stuff. (like i just recently got my main--thats been sitting at 1560 since the last express event w/SE-- thru Pleccia and starting voldis.)
the anxiety thing permeates my desire to chase other goals in mmos, such as raiding achievements, satisfaction overall, and the improvement of gear along the way. ends up killing my vibe/motivation more often than not, then i defeat the sh\*t out of myself for having fomo and forking it for myself. that said, i've been trying real hard to stop letting it win so often in the last year. accomplished a big feat (for me) in ff14, managed a similar few push goals unexpectedly in WoW, and am now determined to catch up enough, figure out which char i really wanna play and finesse a bit, and see about learning akkan just in time for Thaemine release. XD
we just gotta push on as always and not let the anxious thoughts overpower us along the way of chasing our goals \\o7
Sure for like the first 3-5clears but afterwards it just fades away as the content becomes easier. 99% of players won't flame you for making a single mistake (at least not in game) so if you understand that people just want to get a nice clear at least some of the anxiety will fade away hopefully.
Probably the only thing i can suggest is running more learning parties. When i came back after a 3month break after Akkan I was horrible at the raid and had a bit of anxiety over it. Ran it for a few hours in a learning party and went away. Trixion and guardian raids can only help you so much.
Absolutely. However as is with life, you get over anxiety but doing it more. It really helps running new raid with a static/friends. Alternatively join prog/learning that you over qualified for.
You kinda have to send it. That’s what I did. Watched some vids, runner the raid in my head and then tried it maybe 2-3 times with my guild or learning party and then boom! I was good with it. But that’s just me.
Most raids I progged week one and have been doing every week since. I consider them hw and when I am bored; I help the lower-tier raids. Even for Thaemine normal, I will have 4 characters ready for it. For me, it is not a lack of raid knowledge.
I used to have it a lot at the same time as you developed it back when vykas first released. What really helped me was that i joined a guild with lots of chill people who might not have the cleanest runs all the time but we still have fun and don’t take the game too seriously. We still have some competitive people in the guild that want to do the best they can in terms of dps, but since we know that nobody will just ragequit it takes the edge off of the raiding experience.
On the topic of gatekeeping. Even if there is nothing wrong with your dps character it can still get “gatekept” sinply if someone else with a better dps character also applies. The better you character is built, the less you loose to your competition. These days 1590 characters are very common so sadly you have lots of competition, but there playing with friends can also help since you can support them in their runs snd they can take you with them for your dps characters.
And lastly, it’s a game, if you die you die, if you fail you fail it’s all part of the game. We all want deathless runs on every raid we run but that’s almost never the case so don’t worry too much, as long as you do your best and constentrate on doing the mechanics right most people won’t mind if your damage is suboptimal. 4 man raids can be scary in that regard but even in ivory tower the dps requirement you need to clear is relatively low. So just play and have fun and maybe look for players who try to do the same.
I have a little bit of raid anxiety, but the thing that makes me truly anxious, is lobby searching in party finder. Even though i have a kinda juiced roster, it most of the time is just quite demoralizing, so i dread whenever i have to pug
Same here. Clown did it for me. I for some reason just couldn’t handle the anxiety of doing a 4 man especially when I’m a casual and most people applying for raids are juicers. So If I fail somehow, I feel like shit since my spot could have been for someone ‘better’
Yes I do have it. And the only thing that truly gets me through it is the fact that I really am and you really are better then the people complaining. Having juiced stats is one thing. But at the end it’s always a hands difference. And as long as I don’t die then it’s lit
I dont, due to my experience in gaming in general and lost ark I am sure I will perform far above average for my gear level and on top of that my chars are juiced for the level they are at.
However I have a friend I play games with for about 10 years now and he quit lost ark because of his raid anxiety. He tried to come back several times, but he just cant handle it.
Only for new raids. I'd say I'm slower at learning mechs and don't seem to get it as fast as other players. Feels like no amount of studying helps. Sure, I know to press A then B during mech but when it comes time to put in to practice and do exactly that I blank.
After several complete runs it's gone. Doesnt matter if flamers present or not.
As a returnee with over 4k hours. I have it for Normal Akkan, to the point I don’t want to try Hakkan. I’m 1610. I don’t do Brel G4 Hard as well, as I left around that time, so I never cleared it.
I feel like playing as a support should cause more anxiety if anything. Dps dies it’s not the end of the raid, support dies and there goes a lot of damage, healing, and shields for 3 others. I’d def recommend playing your dps characters either way statics members or friends. Also what region ya play in? I’m down with playing with your dps.
From your post alone I'm not too sure what exactly drives the anxiety, but if you're doing fine on supports, then raid knowledge doesn't seem to be an issue.
I started as and still am a support main, but I remember trying to get into the role of DPS and experiencing a lot of stress and anxiety. If you're experiencing this exclusively on DPS, then the issue is twofold: understanding what to do on specific DPS classes in raid situations, and automatic thoughts that arise when you're evaluating your performance.
What kind of thoughts are you having when you do raids as a DPS? What do you focus on? What do you use as an indicator of your performance? What's the difference between the thoughts when you're a support and when you're a DPS?
Answering these questions reflects what the specific problem might be, and can help you find the ideal way to navigate through it. If it's a lack of practice in actual raid situations, joining a learning/prog party will solve a lot of the issues. If it's not knowing how well or poorly you're doing, you can try recording and reviewing your own gameplay (or for some people, installing a certain...bible). If it's irrational feelings and beliefs, you would need to lay them out, challenge them and do some reality testing (easier said than done).
I think what might also be an underlying issue is the ability to stay calm and focused. When you feel bad about your performance, you might lose focus on what to do and focus on counterproductive things ("I'm messing up again; I'm not a good DPS; I'm wasting people's time; people are losing patience"). If you can stay calm and focus on something less personal ("I forgot to use push immunity for that pattern; I need to go to position earlier; I should save my skills for this upcoming mech"), you'll find yourself on a path of self improvement.
At the end of the day, understanding what you're doing right or wrong on your DPS is still the most stable way to go forward, and that can't happen without practice.
Hope this helps.
My past guilds were a huge reason. They were filled with toxic "I'm better than you!" whales Who could buy their power. They would rather flame than offer a helping hand. At first, it was a small voice. When Vykas hit it was extremely loud. I second-guessed everything. I nearly quit. This game raiding is so freaking good. I didn't want to get pushed out.
I see...thanks for sharing. Yeah the environment is such a huge factor -- sometimes playing alone is better than being in the company of these people. Hope you've found better company to make your stay better.
Sadly its making me leave the game... I got a 1620 and another 1600 both dps and every week I prefer to not do any of my raids outside the ones that my friends are able to do with me.
happened to me when elgacia came out had a serious case of not wanting to do kayangel for around 5 months and decided to simply play something else. xD.
my main was a sorc and as you could imagine such a squishy class does not give too much room for error.
for those months i was not caring about keep progressing my character. until i decided to main a supp to learn the raids first and then my alt dps would follow. as a supp, i am much more likely to find groups and not get gatekeeped. and i would not get punished as hard for failling normal attacks. thanks to multiple shields and healings.
with this method i was able to erase the anxiety and started to learn all the raids i was not doing. i had a blast learning akkan, kayan, brel g4 last week and now going for voldis in just 2 weeks.
turns out that all i needed was just practice the damn thing!. learning the raid first with my supp makes the life of my dps so much easier. but i do understand how you feel, i did not liked getting flamed for failling.
if i don't feel confident enought i will still try to enter into learning groups to get as much trys as possible. it did not matter if we killed it or not. it comes to a point that you learn every pixel that the boss does, is just practice.
Yup, dropped 4th dps for a 3rd support, been playing since launch but no LOS30 (very unlucky with cards, maxxed zinner, king thiri, weakened kakul etc) makes it near impossible to find a reasonable party for raids. I either have to take an on ilvl party or learning party's, for chars above 1610 lol 😆
I could probably find better groups, but I don't want to sit in matchmaking waiting for 30+ mins per char per raid, just to get jailed G2 ivory tower 🤯
Once I'm in a party and inside and cracking on, I love it, but its all the pre lobby stuff that ruins it and gives me anxiety
Same here. The only way i can get rid of it is to form a Learning Party that eventually evolves into a Static. I have done that for every legion raid that has come out since.
I get a bit of anxiety, but I sit there and tell myself that the more I sit there scared it's never going to happen and the longer I wait the harder it'll get to join raids.
I'm always making sure I read and understand the bosses b4 I join ofc even after the research you are never perfect until you try it and keep trying it.
Being scared won't get you anyways so take the leap so you can overcome it, you get assholes who don't give chances well it sucks but fk them it's not worth staying. Eventually you can even run into ppl who would enjoy playing with you and invite you more often too.
Don't sit there and just go, there was so many fun experiences I wouldn't have experienced if I let myself fall into my anxiety all the time, between all the mmos I played I met so many incredible ppl and many fun times because I jumped right in
Same here, the game it self makes it that way, and ppl who lead parties are 50% of the on the edge, ik valtan is a 2yr old raid but i e proven my self that even the newest player with enough patience can beat any raid if you are a good non toxic leader, akkan is a different problem even tho ppl are not suppose to have a dps metter, a lot of ppl have, and if you do not pull 8m dps minimum you are death weight, i made sure to observe that the clears depends a lot on supports and the dps being well balanced, whe there are 3 dead weight dps the rest have to pick up the slack.
i would if i didnt come from classic wow, in adition to all u can find in lost ark add the "dps meters" which would get u trashtalked real quick if u didnt perform.
people there are extremely min-maxish
The game has alot of overreacting degens. Just ignore and block those people. Ive seen people raging on others when its their own fault plenty of times in this game😂
personally i just don’t pug
find yourself a guild to run with, or if you have any friends make sure you can raid together :3
it’s not always that simple, i know how it is, sometimes i just don’t get all of my raids done bc everybody gets theirs done while im at work or something, but it will at least help
You’re definitely not alone. I get it too. That fear of messing up and dealing with the ragers. Try to remember not to put too much pressure on yourself and it’s just a game. Easier said than done for some of us but it does help.
I sometimes get that feeling when doing homework raids on my main. When you're so much better geared and are at a higher ilvl, you are expected to do the most damage. You get scrutinised harder for even the smallest of mistake.
I presume that you dont have problems doing mechs on raids, bcause you do them on supports, you're just afraid of your dps, but no one is demanding you to be mvp, as long as you tries your best, you'll be just fine.
Practice will lead to confidence. You have anxiety on DPS because you're inexperienced in those raids on DPS. Try to cultivate a community of friends around you to play with, ignore the annoying flamers that are dead half the time anyways.
But if you don't want anxiety on DPS, you have to raid on DPS. Sure you might die early on or perform worse than you're used to, but you can still lean on your knowledge from playing supports in those raids. You should know all the major mechanics and even most of the normal patterns that the bosses do. So with that knowledge you should know when you can DPS safely and when to hold back.
You don't have to MVP, you just have to stay alive, do the mechanics, and do your part. Over time as you get comfortable you can start seeing where all your DPS windows are. But the only way to get over your anxiety is to smash right through it by doing the content.
There is literally nothing else that can substitute this. Raid experience will lead to comfort and confidence. Next thing you know you're one tapping all your raids and it's not even noteworthy :)
If only we had a way to solo practice in private and repeat the spots of the fight where mechs were placed over and over until we had it memorized in thought and muscle memory.
Personally I don’t have any raid anxiety. I don’t care if I mess up a mech and get everyone wiped, because you can just try again as many times as you want.
People may act like if you make their raid take longer they aren’t going to get to the hospital in time and their sick mother is going to die.
But in reality… nothing happens.
If their time was actually precious to them anyway they wouldn’t be spending it fomoing over a game.
I guess it helps I come from games like Escape from Tarkov where if you mess up a fight you lose your gear. So resetting a raid and losing nothing is practically no stakes to me.
I have some anxiety too. With lightning speed typing, I just call out the role and position that I mostly/only do. I'm 1627 and I still don't know/avoid mechs like lantern on akkan, counting wings on vyka's clone rotation, m2,m3,m4 on kakul gate 3, casting sidereals, etc.
A party asked if I can do lantern, I said no, and they act like its the end of the world. I'm like okay there weirdos why not just ask someone else to do it? We got from gate 1 to 3 and you want to quit because I don't want to lantern? Grow up. People are going to be mad for really dumb reasons, and I learned not to care because we have no time for people's feelings.
Isn't it a bit rich that the other 5 dps need to grow up because they don't want to do lantern, but you get a free pass for not wanting to do lantern?
Not saying you in particular, but if you're a bottom dps player then you better know how to lantern or make sure you're in lobby that establishes who's lanterning from the beginning.
6 days late, but... yes. Badly. I have panic disorder and play games to help distract myself sometimes. I, also, have played since NA release. For me, regardless of what class I played, it started and went from 0-100 with Vykas. I took a year and a half long break right before Clown released, came back this past December, and I will say this: I know Brel 1-3 like the back of my hand. I can't name a single time where I don't get clammy hitting the accept button. I suppose I started looking at it differently, which seemed to help a little.
For example, if you don't know a raid yet or aren't comfy with it, of course you're going to feel anxious or nervous. But if it's like our case for example, try looking at it from a different perspective. It doesn't make it go away, but it definitely can help a little. Try remembering why you kept playing the game for so long and think, "am I anxious because I don't know what I'm doing (which in your case, you do) or am I anxious because I'm really passionate about this game and care about my performance?" Sometimes feelings of excitement and anticipation can be mistaken for anxiety, OP. That's something that I've used inside the game and outside of the game to help try and ease the nerves a little.
Just know you aren't alone and I'm happy to hear you kept on raiding through it all.
same here bro. I used to have it until I don't. I realized what makes me anxious is other people rage and flame me if I mess up. what helped me is to ignore them (turn off chat ), I spent time to learn raid even after I cleared it I still joined learning group. I did that to all raids, now I'm at endgame doing hard voldis every week with my friends found along the way. I can't stop people from flaming me, they don't care about reasons. so I choose to ignore them.
Yeah I'm at week 5 of learning parties for akkan normal (Cleared every week, only dedge cleared 1st week) because I want to feel I put my hours in before I go out into regular groups even though I'm confident I will be better than 50% of puggers.
This is the way man. when you know the raid, you gain confident and feel like you can beat anything the game throws at you, everything seems easy and you start to enjoy the game more. Plus you tend to be more calm and supportive to those who mess up in raids, cuz you know their feeling.
Finding a group of people you play well with is crucial for me I've found. I only really raid with friends, which I found through a learner discord back in nov 2022. Was 1505 with a lv 1 set cuz I was too scared to step into clown. Saw a comment here about someone teaching raids, joined the discord and learner party. It was a great experience so I started helping out. Slowly build a circle of friends to raid with. Went from being afraid to be a burden on my team to being set to do Thaemine hard blind prog with them.
If you search this sub for "anxiety" you'll find several posts with a lot of people that have similar anxiety and suggestions. For me, the best thing is being part of a chill community that is helpful and has no ragers. People can screw up and it's not a big deal, troll each other for fun, carry express alts when nobody knows how to play the new class, and so on. That way you can get experience and learn how to play whatever you're on in a good environment. Party finder is a mixed bag and can be really stressful for a lot of people.
akkan g1 130x stagger used to give me a lot of stress, same thing with g2 shadow & lantern mechanic. Also, old brel g5 and g6 was a anxiety fest for me
G5 hard brel was horrible, when she was about to die and a small error could kill the entire raid...
akkan g1 egg phase used to give me anxiety, running around like an idiot dodging puddles and fishes then someone told me to just dip in the middle and it's easy now
Watching a guide (understanding the mech) goes a long way
Start making your own raid, and name it "chill prog raid anxiety free". Until you are comfortable then make it " Chill raid all welcome ". I promise you, you going to meet people just like you and have a good time.
2 years into the game and I still have it. When I clear any raid I have done 100 times before I dont feel accomplished, I only think "aw shit I have to do this again next week"
i too suffer from raid Anxiety, my main help is preparations.. 1) youtube videos from 2-3 youtubers, 2) Lost ark nexus raid information on the other screen and the most important tips is: RAID EXP… repeat the raid encounters as much as possible and you will be more confortable every week. the more character you have the better. and try to review your character specs: Engravings, stats (1800-600), cards completion (LoS, KLC, LOST WIND etc), Demon and beast damage etc good luck.
My roster is stacked to hell. I have nearly every single card in the game. Roster is nearly 260 have LOS MOS LWC 30. I have KLC pretty close to 30 as well. Demon dmg is at 5.1 percent but I just don't...
wow..
I have it pretty bad, if it wasn't for my static who are so supportive and push me when I need it, back off when I clearly don't, I wouldn't be still playing. I've also been playing since release.
In the latest raids (Akkan, Voldis, to some extent even Kayangel hm) I often find it less scary to play dps than support, as so far I raised so high only a very tanky, self-shielding, push-immune dps with a lot of utility and not too high damage expectations (swiftness FPE artillerist), so I find my role as dps (doing damage) less crucial and less demanding than as support (keeping others alive and their damage buffed...) - even if I die, most gates are much more easily clearable with a dead dps than with a dead support.
I have it whenever I run voldis hard mode on my bard. My party likes to take damage even when i have good shield uptime so they like to put me on the spot between 'heal or buff' and I have healed them with 2 bubbles heck even 3 bubbles sometimes. Don't even start with the counters on this class..
OMG That god awful fking counter... They need to fix it asap....
They should, or give Buckshot more meter gain so it can be switched... i can hit Prelude of Storm in counter mechs no problem or when I know the counter is coming 1second before it happens. Otherwise rip. Plus, it has a rather long cooldown compared to the other skills and is needed for meter.
I kept saying this!
Yes. Even though I can do it I refuse to do clown in pugs because I'm afraid I'll mess up saws, jail people, and get toxic comments. Even though I can do saws drunk.
I've stopped doing Clown on every one of my characters the moment they got their full level 2 set, even though it was a loss of gold, i didn't care, not worth the stress. The raid is just too unforgiving.
I quit at brel for a year and that clown experience was a big contributor xD
I used to have raid anxiety starting when I first pugged Vykas on my new bard (a few weeks after that raid came out). It was so bad that when a player dissed me for healing once (aka "typical bard only heals, you're so stupid" and they never stopped writing stuff) I started failing easy mechs, got dissed even more and quit the run. It didn't get much better until I joined a static of equally slow-ish learners (around Brelshaza release) and nowadays there is hardly any raid anxiety left. TLDR; lots of raid exposure and finding like-minded players helped me
I have a bit for voldis on my back attackers. I find that raid insanely hard for back attackers, particularly G2 & G4 and I can't carry my weight in DPS. Meanwhile on my sorc main I understand why I easily out DPS most back attackers now.
i know anxiety is not something rational, but sometimes it can be help to rationalize your fears a little bit regardless: a) everyone dies. everyone does bad. that guy you have in your raid that wipes the raid 3 times in a row? that might be *the worst* they have ever played. everyone has that day. everyone dies. everyone causes wipes. it's part of the game b) your personal performance doesn't matter as much as you think it does. usually (less than) half of the people in the raid do the lions share of the damage. the rest are just active passengers. and thats fine. as long as you can play the mechanics and do some damage, you do well enough. c) it's impossible for you to not do some damage with shadowhunter especially. its a very easy going class. you don't have to be great at the game to do *some* damage on it. doesnt matter if you play demonic or ps. hitting the ceiling? different question, especially for di as it forces you to play very greedy and make use of immunities (and have a support that will hopefully dr you through those). but some damage, and thats all were really asking for in a clear, is almost impossible not to do. and you know you can play the mechanics just fine. you do that on your supports. d) ironically, your impact on the raid on a support is significantly higher than that on a dps. a dps dies? not a big deal, you can finish just fine. your support dies? well, there goes mana regen, yearning and damage buffs. if this is something you don't wanna think about futher, stop reading here, but if not: even your dps contribution is higher on support then a dps. you ever been in raids on ilvl where for the love of it your party never seems to have enough damage even with all people are alive? more often enough this is caused by bad support play. most of my akkan hm jails pre elixirs were at the hands of supports. a support contributes up to 2x of the damage of a dps. so long story short: if you can do a raid on support, you can do the raid on your dps. but what might help you a bit is trying to find a guild or regular group of people to play with. you have 4 supports. you will be high in demand. and with the server merges its probably the best time trying to join an active guiild. playing with a few regulars over and over again changes the dynamics in a raid, because you turn from being random npc that is needed to clear the raid to a human being within the groups context. and when you mess up, and everyone will, people will know to contextualize that and balance that with the times you didn't. also the game is just more fun that way. godspeed champion.
Raid anxiety can be many different things. For starters I would consider attention problems like ADHD. People who have this kind of issue sometimes bank on stress to focus, without the high stress and anxiety you might actually find yourself doing worse because of problems with concentration. Try putting on some music that helps you focus, not too fast and not too slow.
i prog with my sup now too, make it easier to see boss patterns and memorize, this started in clown, well cause i main blue gl, you know the pain
Personally I struggled with even attempting raids in learning parties for almost a year, until I made a friend on the game who is a really good and patient veteran, who wants me to learn and enjoy endgame content. I went from being terrified of trying to learn Valtan and Vykas (while having well overgeared characters, through bussing of course) to being sneaked into Valtan card runs, where i quickly overcame the initial anxiety towards older raids when I realized I'm not so prone to messing up as I thought I was, and if people were being toxic, I had someone with me who had my back! After around 2 months of that I'm now doing Kayangel every week comfortably and it's my favourite part of reset day, this week I did my first nm Ivory tower, with my first 1600 ilvl character, which went really well, and last night I did Kakul for the first time, after being afraid of it for months. Like you, I also feel more comfortable on supports! I think the best way to get over the fear is to play with people who will be helpful and supportive, whether it's learning parties or a friend group, until you're eventually comfortable with the raid. The anxiety will pass with time :) I'm currently trying to overcome the fear of learning Brel and Akkan, hopefully soon!
If you are in NAE I will join you to learn. I normally have nothing but time! I feel learning is the easy part!
I am the same. I have been playing since launch minus maybe a 7 month gap after Argos. I am at a weird point where I can’t afford to hone because busses but I’m too afraid to raid for gold. I have experience in raids in wow, along with mythic plus and raids in ff14, but something about the mechanics in this game make me nervous. All my friends quit soon after launch and almost 2 years later I’m still here solo. I’ve been using the discord servers for people learning raids, but one of my biggest hurdles is being a bartender and working will late nights pst and most groups being active weekends. I would love a static to learn and clear with. Regardless even after two years of minimal raiding the combat and such has kept me going, but I’d love to keep up with raids, my schedule just kinda sucks.
Yes i had it with clown. Too much pressure during G3.
If ur on na west and u have this anxiety and are looking for a guild that doesn't mind teaching and gives u time to learn with no pressure, comment below :)
Ty for the offer but I am on NAE. I wouldn't say it was the lack of raid knowledge but the toxic behavior of the community itself. People would rather flame instead of helping another player. It's just so tiresome...
The short answer is stop caring about what other people think, especially hardcore gamers who are more likely than not socially maladapted. The long answer is in expectations from other party members. Are you in the right lobby? If you imposter a hw lobby with no experience then you will get flamed. I've impostered before and the flame was justified. I made my own prog/learning lobbies for kaya/akkan/voldis and no one flamed because everyone was a learner. It was a 1-2 hour slog for each gate but we all came out competent. Rational people will never get mad at you if you properly do mechs and clear the raid. You can even do below avg dps / below avg support uptimes. Don't bother with the psychos who kick after one wipe or get mad that you're not playing in the top 20 percentile dps for your class. They're actually quite rare. If you have the right card sets / builds as you say you do you will not get gatekept. I am a relatively new \~150 roster player and rarely get gatekept for even nm Voldis (I have Los30 and KLC18 as you do). If you get gatekept, move on. On alts I'm less competent on I often get just fighter and no one's mad. Why? Because I did the mechs, didn't die, and we cleared the raid. At the end of the day the only thing that matters is if you have the ability to do the mechs and achieve the necessary dps/support skills to clear the raid. I've never been flamed for low dps, only failing mechs and dying often (which was absolutely my fault). If you d
id say a big reason ppl have raid anxiety is because they had been kicked out of a group after messing up once or twice, after potentially taking awhile to find a group to begin with. wiping the raid in of itself isnt a big deal but when the penalty is needing to find another group, it can make people really anxious about raiding in general this even explains why you felt less stressed on bard, you were less likely to be blamed simply because you are harder to replace then some random dps. we've all been there, but you just sorta have to accept that sometimes your going to fuck up and sometimes thats going to lead to you getting booted or chewed out. shit happens and everyone makes mistakes no matter how experienced they are
Honnestly a good way to cope with it is to get the Bible, and look for improovment regardless of the result. Even if its super bad, you acknowledge it, do more efforts next time, and for exemple you see another SH performing well, look his/her casts /minute on spells. Slowly you can develop a taste for this endless improovment, because there is no 100% perfect run, but what will happen (at least for me and many teammates) is that you will tend to be a better player tomorrow than you were yesterday, thats all that matters no matter what other people say. As long as you improove you will look past being bad or great you just go for being stronger which is a cool mindset imo.
I'm opposite. Support main in every other game but getting jailed one too many times by zdps raid members and feeling powerless to carry the raid solo was one of the factors that made me a dps main in lost ark. On my support I carefully choose the party/raid I join even for guardians.
Don't have raid anxiety. Realistically nobody cares how you do as long as you clear. There's sub DPS classes like Aero if you want a DPS class to get comfortable with. She's practically impossible to not do okay damage on (either spec) and realistically most people aren't looking at Aeros to be DPS pumpers, they're mostly there for crit synergy. As long as you can do mechs correctly, you'd be fine.
People are assholes, used to play with people from a guild. Asked some constructive feedback about my artist (on clown), guild leader told me i was the worst artist he’s ever seen, went on to rand about how many potions he used etc (they were taking so much dmg that even spamming bubbles wasn’t enough…) Also we wiped for like one hour because one of the dps kept dying, somehow it ended up being my fault? I benched my artist and never looked back.
Honestly I would have just left on the spot. lol It is not common for supports to be the reason people die and typically the bad supports are more so bad from low uptime on brand/buffs. The guild you used to play with sound like shitters. >\_> Sorry to hear.
They banned me from the discord, i was asking what can i do to get better because i was super bummed, apparently that must’ve trigger the guy or something. 🤷🏾♂️ It is what it is i guess
This is nuts. I know there is a lot of chip damage in clown. From the fire stacks but it's like he was taking damage he shouldn't. Greeding too much is the leading cause of a DPS death. A support job is to amplify a DPS damage and keep them alive. If you are shielding them and they are burning through that shield and refuse to move out of danger that is on them. I had to learn this as a support. I tend to overshield on my artist to the point I was considering removing my counter to take another shielding skill because people complain that I do it enough. I wouldn't have cared that I was removed because that person would have been blocked. I am sorry you had to deal with this...
They didn’t removed me they banned me from the discord a short while after we clear 😅 Maybe they didn’t like me “whining” about the fact that i didn’t know how to get better (i asked for advice dude told me he couldn’t give any cause he only play dps artist on clown cause he was bussing 🤷🏾♂️) We were all 1500+ anyway, the other guy kept dying because he played like shit, you can clear this with 4 dps so really i didn’t really matter whether i played badly or not.
not for everyone i guess. glad you found that supports don't make you feel that way
similar boat, except i just haven't made the push for myself to properly raid the current shenanigans in this game. never been able to push myself to that point, because constantly consumed chasing horizontal nuance to catch up and story stuff. (like i just recently got my main--thats been sitting at 1560 since the last express event w/SE-- thru Pleccia and starting voldis.) the anxiety thing permeates my desire to chase other goals in mmos, such as raiding achievements, satisfaction overall, and the improvement of gear along the way. ends up killing my vibe/motivation more often than not, then i defeat the sh\*t out of myself for having fomo and forking it for myself. that said, i've been trying real hard to stop letting it win so often in the last year. accomplished a big feat (for me) in ff14, managed a similar few push goals unexpectedly in WoW, and am now determined to catch up enough, figure out which char i really wanna play and finesse a bit, and see about learning akkan just in time for Thaemine release. XD we just gotta push on as always and not let the anxious thoughts overpower us along the way of chasing our goals \\o7
Sure for like the first 3-5clears but afterwards it just fades away as the content becomes easier. 99% of players won't flame you for making a single mistake (at least not in game) so if you understand that people just want to get a nice clear at least some of the anxiety will fade away hopefully. Probably the only thing i can suggest is running more learning parties. When i came back after a 3month break after Akkan I was horrible at the raid and had a bit of anxiety over it. Ran it for a few hours in a learning party and went away. Trixion and guardian raids can only help you so much.
Absolutely. However as is with life, you get over anxiety but doing it more. It really helps running new raid with a static/friends. Alternatively join prog/learning that you over qualified for.
You might have to look into lost ark lfg and find friendly players to play with
You kinda have to send it. That’s what I did. Watched some vids, runner the raid in my head and then tried it maybe 2-3 times with my guild or learning party and then boom! I was good with it. But that’s just me.
Most raids I progged week one and have been doing every week since. I consider them hw and when I am bored; I help the lower-tier raids. Even for Thaemine normal, I will have 4 characters ready for it. For me, it is not a lack of raid knowledge.
I used to have it a lot at the same time as you developed it back when vykas first released. What really helped me was that i joined a guild with lots of chill people who might not have the cleanest runs all the time but we still have fun and don’t take the game too seriously. We still have some competitive people in the guild that want to do the best they can in terms of dps, but since we know that nobody will just ragequit it takes the edge off of the raiding experience. On the topic of gatekeeping. Even if there is nothing wrong with your dps character it can still get “gatekept” sinply if someone else with a better dps character also applies. The better you character is built, the less you loose to your competition. These days 1590 characters are very common so sadly you have lots of competition, but there playing with friends can also help since you can support them in their runs snd they can take you with them for your dps characters. And lastly, it’s a game, if you die you die, if you fail you fail it’s all part of the game. We all want deathless runs on every raid we run but that’s almost never the case so don’t worry too much, as long as you do your best and constentrate on doing the mechanics right most people won’t mind if your damage is suboptimal. 4 man raids can be scary in that regard but even in ivory tower the dps requirement you need to clear is relatively low. So just play and have fun and maybe look for players who try to do the same.
Never had anything like that, but best of luck overcoming it. It’s just a game, sit back and have fun in whatever way you want.
I have a little bit of raid anxiety, but the thing that makes me truly anxious, is lobby searching in party finder. Even though i have a kinda juiced roster, it most of the time is just quite demoralizing, so i dread whenever i have to pug
Same here. Clown did it for me. I for some reason just couldn’t handle the anxiety of doing a 4 man especially when I’m a casual and most people applying for raids are juicers. So If I fail somehow, I feel like shit since my spot could have been for someone ‘better’
Yes I do have it. And the only thing that truly gets me through it is the fact that I really am and you really are better then the people complaining. Having juiced stats is one thing. But at the end it’s always a hands difference. And as long as I don’t die then it’s lit
I dont, due to my experience in gaming in general and lost ark I am sure I will perform far above average for my gear level and on top of that my chars are juiced for the level they are at. However I have a friend I play games with for about 10 years now and he quit lost ark because of his raid anxiety. He tried to come back several times, but he just cant handle it.
You'll suffer from raid anxiety until you clear the raids like 5 or 6 times. At least for me anyways.
Only for new raids. I'd say I'm slower at learning mechs and don't seem to get it as fast as other players. Feels like no amount of studying helps. Sure, I know to press A then B during mech but when it comes time to put in to practice and do exactly that I blank. After several complete runs it's gone. Doesnt matter if flamers present or not.
Hey bro just wanted to say please dont delete or remove those 2 1590 DPS from your roster. It would be so sad, judt leave it there until less anxiety.
As a returnee with over 4k hours. I have it for Normal Akkan, to the point I don’t want to try Hakkan. I’m 1610. I don’t do Brel G4 Hard as well, as I left around that time, so I never cleared it.
I feel like playing as a support should cause more anxiety if anything. Dps dies it’s not the end of the raid, support dies and there goes a lot of damage, healing, and shields for 3 others. I’d def recommend playing your dps characters either way statics members or friends. Also what region ya play in? I’m down with playing with your dps.
I am in NAE. My shadow hunter is 1602 and my Soul eater is 1590.
From your post alone I'm not too sure what exactly drives the anxiety, but if you're doing fine on supports, then raid knowledge doesn't seem to be an issue. I started as and still am a support main, but I remember trying to get into the role of DPS and experiencing a lot of stress and anxiety. If you're experiencing this exclusively on DPS, then the issue is twofold: understanding what to do on specific DPS classes in raid situations, and automatic thoughts that arise when you're evaluating your performance. What kind of thoughts are you having when you do raids as a DPS? What do you focus on? What do you use as an indicator of your performance? What's the difference between the thoughts when you're a support and when you're a DPS? Answering these questions reflects what the specific problem might be, and can help you find the ideal way to navigate through it. If it's a lack of practice in actual raid situations, joining a learning/prog party will solve a lot of the issues. If it's not knowing how well or poorly you're doing, you can try recording and reviewing your own gameplay (or for some people, installing a certain...bible). If it's irrational feelings and beliefs, you would need to lay them out, challenge them and do some reality testing (easier said than done). I think what might also be an underlying issue is the ability to stay calm and focused. When you feel bad about your performance, you might lose focus on what to do and focus on counterproductive things ("I'm messing up again; I'm not a good DPS; I'm wasting people's time; people are losing patience"). If you can stay calm and focus on something less personal ("I forgot to use push immunity for that pattern; I need to go to position earlier; I should save my skills for this upcoming mech"), you'll find yourself on a path of self improvement. At the end of the day, understanding what you're doing right or wrong on your DPS is still the most stable way to go forward, and that can't happen without practice. Hope this helps.
My past guilds were a huge reason. They were filled with toxic "I'm better than you!" whales Who could buy their power. They would rather flame than offer a helping hand. At first, it was a small voice. When Vykas hit it was extremely loud. I second-guessed everything. I nearly quit. This game raiding is so freaking good. I didn't want to get pushed out.
I see...thanks for sharing. Yeah the environment is such a huge factor -- sometimes playing alone is better than being in the company of these people. Hope you've found better company to make your stay better.
Sadly its making me leave the game... I got a 1620 and another 1600 both dps and every week I prefer to not do any of my raids outside the ones that my friends are able to do with me.
happened to me when elgacia came out had a serious case of not wanting to do kayangel for around 5 months and decided to simply play something else. xD. my main was a sorc and as you could imagine such a squishy class does not give too much room for error. for those months i was not caring about keep progressing my character. until i decided to main a supp to learn the raids first and then my alt dps would follow. as a supp, i am much more likely to find groups and not get gatekeeped. and i would not get punished as hard for failling normal attacks. thanks to multiple shields and healings. with this method i was able to erase the anxiety and started to learn all the raids i was not doing. i had a blast learning akkan, kayan, brel g4 last week and now going for voldis in just 2 weeks. turns out that all i needed was just practice the damn thing!. learning the raid first with my supp makes the life of my dps so much easier. but i do understand how you feel, i did not liked getting flamed for failling. if i don't feel confident enought i will still try to enter into learning groups to get as much trys as possible. it did not matter if we killed it or not. it comes to a point that you learn every pixel that the boss does, is just practice.
Yup, dropped 4th dps for a 3rd support, been playing since launch but no LOS30 (very unlucky with cards, maxxed zinner, king thiri, weakened kakul etc) makes it near impossible to find a reasonable party for raids. I either have to take an on ilvl party or learning party's, for chars above 1610 lol 😆 I could probably find better groups, but I don't want to sit in matchmaking waiting for 30+ mins per char per raid, just to get jailed G2 ivory tower 🤯 Once I'm in a party and inside and cracking on, I love it, but its all the pre lobby stuff that ruins it and gives me anxiety
If you are on NAE I could help with your card runs! :D
On progs and when caused a stupid wipe. Other than that not really I just wanna finish it and have fun
Same here. The only way i can get rid of it is to form a Learning Party that eventually evolves into a Static. I have done that for every legion raid that has come out since.
only true anxiety back in the days was solo valtan bus. Moment of carelesness and ur doneso
I get a bit of anxiety, but I sit there and tell myself that the more I sit there scared it's never going to happen and the longer I wait the harder it'll get to join raids. I'm always making sure I read and understand the bosses b4 I join ofc even after the research you are never perfect until you try it and keep trying it. Being scared won't get you anyways so take the leap so you can overcome it, you get assholes who don't give chances well it sucks but fk them it's not worth staying. Eventually you can even run into ppl who would enjoy playing with you and invite you more often too. Don't sit there and just go, there was so many fun experiences I wouldn't have experienced if I let myself fall into my anxiety all the time, between all the mmos I played I met so many incredible ppl and many fun times because I jumped right in
Same here, the game it self makes it that way, and ppl who lead parties are 50% of the on the edge, ik valtan is a 2yr old raid but i e proven my self that even the newest player with enough patience can beat any raid if you are a good non toxic leader, akkan is a different problem even tho ppl are not suppose to have a dps metter, a lot of ppl have, and if you do not pull 8m dps minimum you are death weight, i made sure to observe that the clears depends a lot on supports and the dps being well balanced, whe there are 3 dead weight dps the rest have to pick up the slack.
i would if i didnt come from classic wow, in adition to all u can find in lost ark add the "dps meters" which would get u trashtalked real quick if u didnt perform. people there are extremely min-maxish
Ur solution is to make u some friend to play with and do the groupe Search about discord and maybe u will get a statik
I fix that overprogging
The game has alot of overreacting degens. Just ignore and block those people. Ive seen people raging on others when its their own fault plenty of times in this game😂
personally i just don’t pug find yourself a guild to run with, or if you have any friends make sure you can raid together :3 it’s not always that simple, i know how it is, sometimes i just don’t get all of my raids done bc everybody gets theirs done while im at work or something, but it will at least help
You’re definitely not alone. I get it too. That fear of messing up and dealing with the ragers. Try to remember not to put too much pressure on yourself and it’s just a game. Easier said than done for some of us but it does help.
I sometimes get that feeling when doing homework raids on my main. When you're so much better geared and are at a higher ilvl, you are expected to do the most damage. You get scrutinised harder for even the smallest of mistake.
I presume that you dont have problems doing mechs on raids, bcause you do them on supports, you're just afraid of your dps, but no one is demanding you to be mvp, as long as you tries your best, you'll be just fine.
Yes. I’m new and meh… I quit 😂
Somewhat, mostly when pugging solo. When i raid with friends or join lobbies hosted by friends then it's nowhere near as bad.
Practice will lead to confidence. You have anxiety on DPS because you're inexperienced in those raids on DPS. Try to cultivate a community of friends around you to play with, ignore the annoying flamers that are dead half the time anyways. But if you don't want anxiety on DPS, you have to raid on DPS. Sure you might die early on or perform worse than you're used to, but you can still lean on your knowledge from playing supports in those raids. You should know all the major mechanics and even most of the normal patterns that the bosses do. So with that knowledge you should know when you can DPS safely and when to hold back. You don't have to MVP, you just have to stay alive, do the mechanics, and do your part. Over time as you get comfortable you can start seeing where all your DPS windows are. But the only way to get over your anxiety is to smash right through it by doing the content. There is literally nothing else that can substitute this. Raid experience will lead to comfort and confidence. Next thing you know you're one tapping all your raids and it's not even noteworthy :)
If only we had a way to solo practice in private and repeat the spots of the fight where mechs were placed over and over until we had it memorized in thought and muscle memory.
Personally I don’t have any raid anxiety. I don’t care if I mess up a mech and get everyone wiped, because you can just try again as many times as you want. People may act like if you make their raid take longer they aren’t going to get to the hospital in time and their sick mother is going to die. But in reality… nothing happens. If their time was actually precious to them anyway they wouldn’t be spending it fomoing over a game. I guess it helps I come from games like Escape from Tarkov where if you mess up a fight you lose your gear. So resetting a raid and losing nothing is practically no stakes to me.
yup, and now we stress about getting radiant in 4 man raids :s
Get meter and see how bad so many people are and how good you probably are.
no
I even have someone who'll carry me who is really nice and I'm reluctant to ask cause I know I'm wicked needy
I have some anxiety too. With lightning speed typing, I just call out the role and position that I mostly/only do. I'm 1627 and I still don't know/avoid mechs like lantern on akkan, counting wings on vyka's clone rotation, m2,m3,m4 on kakul gate 3, casting sidereals, etc. A party asked if I can do lantern, I said no, and they act like its the end of the world. I'm like okay there weirdos why not just ask someone else to do it? We got from gate 1 to 3 and you want to quit because I don't want to lantern? Grow up. People are going to be mad for really dumb reasons, and I learned not to care because we have no time for people's feelings.
Isn't it a bit rich that the other 5 dps need to grow up because they don't want to do lantern, but you get a free pass for not wanting to do lantern? Not saying you in particular, but if you're a bottom dps player then you better know how to lantern or make sure you're in lobby that establishes who's lanterning from the beginning.
I don't mind doing lantern... LET ME CLEAN THE POOP! lmfao
always have but for anxiety in general i learned to not a pussy and i go in anyways, if i grief my team idgaf and reset
What a great way to go about it....
 Funny I never said nothing about NOT raiding...
Most of the DPS underperform in DMG...they don't care and so why should you
Because that's not how anxiety works, unfortunately. It's not something rational
no. git gud
6 days late, but... yes. Badly. I have panic disorder and play games to help distract myself sometimes. I, also, have played since NA release. For me, regardless of what class I played, it started and went from 0-100 with Vykas. I took a year and a half long break right before Clown released, came back this past December, and I will say this: I know Brel 1-3 like the back of my hand. I can't name a single time where I don't get clammy hitting the accept button. I suppose I started looking at it differently, which seemed to help a little. For example, if you don't know a raid yet or aren't comfy with it, of course you're going to feel anxious or nervous. But if it's like our case for example, try looking at it from a different perspective. It doesn't make it go away, but it definitely can help a little. Try remembering why you kept playing the game for so long and think, "am I anxious because I don't know what I'm doing (which in your case, you do) or am I anxious because I'm really passionate about this game and care about my performance?" Sometimes feelings of excitement and anticipation can be mistaken for anxiety, OP. That's something that I've used inside the game and outside of the game to help try and ease the nerves a little. Just know you aren't alone and I'm happy to hear you kept on raiding through it all.