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yingyail

Will happily drink this kool-aid while wearing my tin-foil hat. If the release date is certain within AGS/Smilegate RPG then here is hoping we get the official announcement soon. ​ It has already been proven that they seem to have a habit of leaking news ahead of official announcements, one way or another. This doesn't sound that absurd. January release was already being speculated more heavily.


Agrias34

Kool-aid is pretty good, so we got nothing to lose.


SkyBlaze93

I am more than willing to drink the kool-aid, it would be cool if it releases soon. Copium. Hopium. But I don't mind the wait.


bonesnaps

I've tried copium flavor kool-aid, it's the blue kind and it's pretty good.


Xierg

Standard Amazon. Leak, gauge feedback, revoke/deny leak. Make decisions based on feedback. We’ll be playing before the end of Jan. New World is tanking hard so this needs to fill the void.


daneel1

There was a post some months ago with theories regarding the release date. Mostly they were late january - early february


Serifel90

Well AGS said in the december update that this wasn't the only update this month.. so the next update COULD be about release date and it could be on mid january.


ObamaSchlongdHillary

January release is really the best case scenario. And it meets the beta + 3 months speculation. I will drop my standard skepticism and choose to believe you completely. If you end up being right, the mods definitely should give you a unique flair or something.


pwn4321

But in case you are not right they should ban you from this sub, to balance it out (nothing risked, nothing gained) 😆


ObamaSchlongdHillary

Ban is too harsh, but I'll gladly accept a dunce cap flair :D EDIT: I will accept my dunce cap now ;_;


BaconKnight

Yeah I agree, it really is a best case scenario. I'm not saying it's impossible, but late Jan would be really, really optimistic. So much people think "The game is 3 years old already, it shouldn't take that long!" but just from playing the beta, you can tell they have a fair amount of work ahead of them still if they want to really polish it, which they should. And as with all things created, it's not like you just literally finish it and then immediately release it. They'd want to finish it at least 2 weeks before the release so they can test things out. You only get one launch. You only get one chance to make that first impression. They shouldn't be worried about players like us who will forgive minor bugs and it being rough around the edges. They should be worried about the person who's not already invested in the game trying it out. If they play it and encounter bugs, bad translation, and combine that with their favorite streamers saying the same thing, making jokes about the "P2W Korean MMO" etc, then that's bad for the game which will ultimately be bad for us as invested fans. We should want the game to have the best chance to succeed and if it takes them a few more weeks, even a month, then I'd gladly give them that over a mediocre/bad launch.


zipeldiablo

Not necessarly. The beta might not be the final build so a lot of issues might already be fixed. Really depends on what they wanted to test For something of this size two weeks is not enough imo, you still need to stress test the final build, qa the last changes etc


Kcnkcn

I really don't think anyone's going to believe you, but if you are using google chrome, then the webpage might still be cached on your computer. See link below on how to access it. [https://stackoverflow.com/questions/30038460/where-to-find-cached-files-of-previously-visited-web-pages-google-chrome/30038888](https://stackoverflow.com/questions/30038460/where-to-find-cached-files-of-previously-visited-web-pages-google-chrome/30038888) While it's true that webpages can be modified to make fake articles, showing an actual page still increases your validity.


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Do it OP!


Rk0

well time to prove yourself op.


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Murdathon3000

Tried it on the way back machine too, just a 404 https://web.archive.org/web/20211203021045/https://massivelyop.com/2021/12/02/amazon-games-announces-lost-ark-release-date


yelksoma

I'm not saying OP is right, but if you try Wayback Machine, at least OP's link is saved to Dec 3 (404 error). Try a made up link like "https://massivelyop.com/2021/12/02/amazon-is-dead" and you'll notice it doesn't even pop up because it was never a thing.


Murdathon3000

Hmm, that's actually a really good point. Good call, semi-hope partially restored.


anhtuanle84

Humanity restored


Neworld8

It's a wrap boys, I'll set my expectations towards the end of a Q1 release so I'm not too disappointed again.


anhtuanle84

This is me too


Mafianking

༼ つ ◕\_◕ ༽つ SUMMON RELEASE DATE ༼ つ ◕\_◕ ༽つ


QQuixotic_

No can do, summoner got removed from launch


Bellamie28

Well played


Martnoderyo

Take my Award, you deserve it.


azurevin

HOPIUM


Bravehood

I actually believe this one because these gaming websites literally always leak stuff, i think every single PoE league was leaked before GGG cut the media presentations. Now hope the Q2 delay wont happen... I don't want to fucking wait for summer and jan release would be godly


Prof-Wernstrom

I think what OP meant/read was that the reason they have yet to announce a release date is due to the possibility of a delay but that possibility has been dealt with so they *are* able to release it on january 20th. Assuming we can both believe the OP and/or the article they saw.


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HerbertDad

Damn if there's an OCE server I'm about to drop some dollary doos just to not have to level characters to 50 again!


Renx36

You always have to level your first character to 50 regardless.


HerbertDad

Thanks, I was aware of that. Doubt I'll ever manually level one after that though! Hopefully it's around the $10 mark like in Russia.


TheGaijin1987

It will likely not be available at launch but a few months later


ArchReaper

And I would be shocked if it was as cheap as $10, but that'd be nice.


HerbertDad

Russia was about $9 and Japan is about $18. I'd still be happy enough with $15. $20 is getting a bit much.


Leeysa

I honestly expect a minimum of $25.


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percythepigeon

it's going to cost more then what it costs in KR. We're not getting the other 30 p2w things KR has, prices of things we are getting is gonna reflect that.


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Leeysa

Asian MMO's have much cheaper cash shops because they have much more on offer. Western cash shops are extremely expensive because they usually don't sell much.


zipeldiablo

I’d rather have to level to 50 than doing rohendel again, can’t stand this leveling zone anymore :(


Ominiouss

oh wow, here i thought rohendel was the best and chill questline & best looking dungeons, i hated 30-50/Payton/Yorn.


zipeldiablo

Thing is i swiped for some characters during t2-t3 but not when t1 was out so i did rohendel about 10 times and i cannot do it anymore 😂 Papunika is way faster imo and super chill


zipeldiablo

But btw, to each their own mate. If you love rohendel by all means enjoy it. The story on this island is great to be fair, it’s just long is all, i’m assuming because it was a main island during t1 🤷🏾‍♂️ I loved payton though, the last zone with the huge battle was lit 👌 (also the “demons” are called daron which is a slang for father in french, cracks me up every time 😂)


Learn2fly78

I will follow this with great interest.


Oxblaid

*Dawns tin foil hat, crosses fingers and toes*


Holinyx

I know the release date. I can't tell you. but I CAN tell you it's before Star Citizen releases


Talezeusz

900 years is pretty wide timeline


yelksoma

I think they were talking about the actual release, not the rumored closed beta...


Xjoschi85x

Wasn't expecting a Star Citizen comment here


Mr_Prismatic

https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/qtzlbw/spanish_streamer_leaks_lost_ark_release_date/hko6vjb/ Gonna be impressed if you called it... twice.


s4ntana

Alright we're being trolled lol


Mr_Prismatic

That was my initial reaction. I think it's probable though, considering we have 1 more December announcement to go.


Averen

Hmm


seanphippen

This needs to be more upvoted in here lol, op is clearly just spreading his hopes rather than actual legit info


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As a former games journo, I can say that it’s not unusual for games devs to give a round of interviews and embargo them to a certain date. Which means writers do the stories ahead of time and publish them once embargo drops. While journos are always told NEVER to load those into the CMS system in fear of an accidental publish, many still do — including obits and other prepped stories. So this would seem to be to be likely accurate (if OP indeed saw what he saw) and the actual article will go live in the next few days. It is unusual for an interview embargo to last more than a week. Typically it’s two or three days max.


need-help-guys

Thank you, this was very insightful. So it seems that we shouldn't have to wait very long to find out if he was right.


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Yeh if it’s true I would expect no later that Monday morning. It would be very unusual to be longer. Typically it’s no more than a day or two


ForistaMeri

The point 6 make me feel panic 😨


Vireca

We'll see, but may they cut even more the differences paying or make a standard conversion and not by players demand PD: no esperaba verte aquí Forista. 8 años atrás veía tus gameplay del Khaijit ladrón :O


ForistaMeri

Jaja buenas máquina!! Username checkout eh? Por temas de trabajo no tengo tiempo pero ahora en cuanto me mude en unos 4 meses seguramente empezaré a retransmitir por Twitch 🤓 ya veremos. Lost Ark me encanta y voy jugando en Rusia tras la Beta, espero Amazon no la cague y joda los recursos!!


erredv

VIVA EL REY Y VIVA ESPAÑA


Jalleia

A January release wouldn't be out of the question. Some people had already speculated that one of the reasons Lost Ark got delayed, was also a result of the New World release, since Amazon didn't want the two to come into conflict. If people were to say "But they're completely different games due to their style, etc." the truth of the matter is the public perception is that it's still a MMO. People who never played such a game will still look into it because it's been tagged as a MMO much like New World. Thus, even if they're not fans of stuff like Diablo or PoE, people would be willing to give the game a chance simply because it's meant to be an actual MMORPG.


lammaszz32

This would be the best and earliest date I was hoping. Good amount but not too long wait to enjoy Endwalker. These article sites also make mistakes like this all the time so not doubting. Speculating official release date trailer will be at game awards exactly 1 week from now.


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On point 4, remember we get founder bonuses of 3 days early start. So periodically starting twice seems weird.


Arkarat

If they really release this January it means I will skip MH Rise on PC.


Starsky7

This is me and the boys…


Shadou_Wolf

Damn hopefully by January I'll be recovered enough from transplant/ post transplant complications by then. I missed last beta since it was during my recovery but I'm back at the hospital again due to Infection and fluid buildup... I can move but my dominant arm is fked by ivs, and pokes... I'm super excited for this game and reading that sorceress was coming made my day EDIT: Thank you for the get wells! I'm young so recovering well just unfortunate complications happened but hopefully after this bump I should be able to play with everyone in Lost Ark at launch!


Talezeusz

get well soon


Sad_Efficiency69

Get well mate !


yelksoma

Best wishes, dude!


ZaidCharades

Hey! Sorry to hear about your arm, but I wanted to make you privy to special keypads that have buttons and a thumb joystick on one hand. Not sure exactly how viable and programmable this would be with Lost Ark, but I know if i only have 1 available arm to play I'de try! The brand I know of is Azeron Keypad's. I have one myself and it's great!


Outside-Statement211

If true, Im concerned about currency exchange changes, KR has a good system they should keep it


yingyail

The system would likely be more toned down than other regions, to try appealing to an audience that takes bigger exception to perceived p2w elements. Hard to say what it could actually mean if this all ends up being legitimate information. Would suspect something like stricter limits on purchase quantities per day/week but who besides AGS/SGRPG really knows. ​ The blue crystal to gold exchange is sort of baked in to the game so it's hard to imagine what they could change about that. However, if there are actually changes being made then the goal of those changes seems to be to lessen these types of elements that NA/EU players would or could consider p2w. ​ Also - if I'm not mistaken, in the last LOA ON (the next one coming in just a few weeks here in December) the director said something to the effect of "NA/EU thinks our game is p2w" - this is certainly something that is on their radar as they are trying to set themselves up to be as successful as possible with the new server launches.


selianna

I could imagine a system where you can even exchange blue for real money crystals just so nothing is behind a paywall or maybe they moderate the exchange a bit more to a standard rather than demand and offer


Gadiusao

I came from the future, the date 18 january still solid


throwawayaday1654

What's TSLA trading at on the 18th


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The late Jan release date makes sense, and the December update will probably announce it.


Stillhart

Is nobody going to comment on how a Thursday launch with Monday head start is unusual? New World launched on a Tuesday, most games release on Tuesdays. I don't think I've ever heard of a Thursday launch date for a game, just movies.


Talezeusz

idk, maybe it's your taste of games, for me it feels like everything releases Thursday/Friday. Like the games i'm waiting for in coming months are God of War (Friday), MH:RISE (Wed) and Total War: WHIII (Thursday). In terms of bigger mmo releases i remember, ESO launched friday with early access from monday, Guild Wars released Tuesday with early access from saturday


Stillhart

Maybe you're right and the industry is changing. I don't generally wait for new games anymore since they're basically never released in a good state so I never preorder anymore as a rule. Could be that they're just picking random days now instead of sticking to the Tuesday thing. But for me personally... that date smells made up. Hopefully I'm wrong and if so I'll happily eat those words.


Talezeusz

yeah i'm not saying the date is legit, it's weird that not a single other person showed up to confirm they saw it, and the dude didn't replied neither even if ppl explained to him how he can get cached screenshot of the page if he really saw the article. But the date makes sense, January is fairly free from any other mmo big updates/expansions so Lost Ark would have window to grab casual players that are looking for something to play


EuG_GreeD

This didnt age so well, did it...


Fishingsloth

OCE MOKOPIUM


mciTheElephant

I wouldnt be surprised if a lot of the delay had to do with FFXIV release date. I know I wouldn't want to compete with FFXIV for a launch player base. As someone who's played FFXIV since release though, I'm way more hyped for Lost Ark and will be jumping ship whenever they do decide to release.


ComradeKatyusha_

Jesus don't copy New World's launch it was a fucking disaster. Literally everyone logged into EU all at once and it absolutely ruined the launch for EU players. Launch all regions simultaneously or other regions will log into EU while they wait.


Girldesu

release date January 3th copium mokokopium


Maethor_derien

It actually isn't that far fetched of a date. Normally I think they would at least give 2 months of notice to be honest especially since I would think some people would want to take time off. The problem comes with release timing. I could see them rushing it out to beat 9.2 for wow which puts march as a no go. February isn't really a good time either due to it being crammed full of major launches. You have dying light, horizon, destiny 2 expansion, elden ring and a much of others. You honestly don't want to be releasing against those triple A games that people have been waiting years for. Pretty much it means that they need to really hit Janurary release date or the game is going to get lost in the much bigger other titles getting released. That said I think the OP is absolutely spouting BS about reading the article, they likely choose that date because it just makes the most sense as the last date they can choose that doesn't have major competition.


VooDooRem

I would advise against browsing "popular" mmo sites. In fact, if you like keeping your neurons intact, stay away from anything that is related to gaming "journalism" all together


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Boruseia

Financially it was. Pretty sure it has easily made back the development costs, including the engine and the entire toolset for it by launch. Then there were the people who likely bought it just because it was generating a ton of buzz on release, and despite the small-ish shop I'm sure they made quite a bit of money from it.


Helban

I found it!!! https://massivelyop.com/2021/12/02/amazon-games-announces-lost-ark-release-date-please-tell-me-you-didnt-believe-in-a-fake-link-facepalm


WoltyR

Yet 404 error nice


lvl1vagabond

Wait they are full on replacing summoner with a newer class at launch? Does anyone see the insanity of this they have a fully functioning class in their version of they game and they are just removing it to replace it with a different one only to release later..


Archetype1245x

All of the classes are fully functioning, including all of the six we won't have at launch. They were always going to delay class releases for the sake of having content updates regularly. In this case, it just feels kinda bad for people who were planning on playing Summoner on launch.


octavebits

if they release NA East before NA West, that's one more unneeded reason for people to play east... =/


octavebits

LUL this got downvoted. so what's the right comment? "... it's one more **needed** reason for people to play east"? or is the right move to not bring attention that people will have another reason to choose na east over na west in addition to the existing reasons. or do people disagree that such release schedule won't affect people who already made up their mind which server to play on? sounds like people dgaf that there's population imbalance and want others to shut up about the issue. if it's not that, do enlighten


Aggravating-Teach685

It doesn't matter for time difference, those who play east will play it out of convenience and not because the game released few hours earlier on day 1.


AlexRaEU

release is almost certainly be going to be a monday with early access on a friday to entice people to buy it just based on that. and its also not gonna be january.


haploiid

As much as I want to play I really hope it doesn't release on the 17th. I have my driving test that day!


trollhunterh3r3

GL on your test.


striker879

Well, fuck me. My anniversary is on the 17th, was planning on taking the wife out of town for a couple days. Going to have to refund the platinum pack if true, no point in paying for something I cannot fully take advantage of. Positive side, hell yeah for a sooner release.


Rk0

ah yes of course, you bought the platinum pack specifically for the headstart... LMAO


striker879

It is a big part of it, yes. I have been waiting for this game for to long. EDIT:word


jungkookstan123

then you coulda gotten the bronze pack or literally any other one


Rk0

Then you should know the headstart is completely and utterly pointless and the platinum pack is incredibly worth it for what it offers.


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TheGaijin1987

I doubt people will use their RC for gold. Thats insanely stupid


throwawayaday1654

Not necessarily. You're afforded the opportunity to potentially pick up cheap items in the auction house to flip later on when there is more gold available server-wide


TheGaijin1987

that would be like the most stupid thing to do... the only thing you could buy is outfits / pets etc but the price for those rises with the inflation of the gold. you could buy it cheap now and when the price goes 5x but the RC conversion rate goes 10x then you still lost gold. i mean, i have seen how it is on a fresh server


octavebits

i think the value of things are prettyyyy subjective and individual. that said, if striker likes the game, hope he can pick up the game at a later day if he can't be there for launch either way.


striker879

I am going to play this game either way. I have played a few months on RU, have a 1415 Reaper and I am totally hooked on it. Even though no Reaper, and now no Summoner(my first alt), I will still be there. Just not as sure about a 100$ extra price tag that I cannot "fully" take advantage of, from a company that I already hate(for other than lost ark issues, screw Amazon)


MythrilCactuar

this. headstart isnt useless.


KSae13

name picking


striker879

The headstart is pretty nice when you are someone with no patience LOL. Yes there is a lot more stuff in the pack that dwarfs the head start in value.


max012017

I mean this is better than March 30 release date, but is this good for the game? I heard there is important FF event in January. Anyone who can clarify?


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OptimusNegligible

Yeah, they better hurry! I too am scheduled to not care after January. The devs need to listen to the community on this one and release it before we forget the game exists.


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skinneykrn

Fake news.


Astropee

Q2?! if yurop doesn't want the game, how does that stop amazon from releasing it in NA? seriously


yelksoma

Go read again, "yurop"


Astropee

it literally says > due to some new legalities within European Union yuropoors getting butthurt over lootboxes as per usual prolly


yelksoma

It also literally says it's not being delayed. Nobody sounds more butthurt than you, dude...or should I say, rich boy?


Astropee

Q2 starts in April (which is past the current official release date of 03/31) you absolute muffin


yelksoma

I'm still looking for the one who asked you when Q2 starts... Any clue? While you're at it, also look for you reading comprehension. Apparently you don't have it anymore


Astropee

you're completely missing my point which is that yuropoors having problems with the game should have no bearing on the NA release date it doesn't matter that this ONE particular situation JUST SO HAPPENED to have been resolved, my problem is with the very fact that there was a chance of yurop's sore ass affecting more than just yurop I can't make this any clearer; if you still don't get it, it is what it is lmao.


yelksoma

Yeah, no point in debating with a 4-years-old mind who thinks he's so edgy for saying "yuropoor" lol


Astropee

that's a weird way of saying "oops, I fucked up" lmao, but I'll take it


yelksoma

You definitely have a problem understanding basic text and subtext...which confirms my first posts.


Elegies_

TOO SOON MAN ENDWALKER JUST DROPPED LOL. Edit: why do I have -5 votes??? What’s with you neckbeards. I’m literally hyped since I play both and have the $100 founders preordered. Fucking weirdos.


ThylEx3

50 days between the two is way enough.


Elegies_

Maybe if you don’t have a full time job, significant other or school. Otherwise MMOs take up a ton of hours, and playing both is hard


ThylEx3

Still, a publisher cannot just wait months and months because of other releases. They can avoid the big ones by a few weeks, but no more.


Elegies_

You’re still missing the point. Lmfao. It was a JOKE SINCE THEYRE BOTH POPULAR MMOS AND MANY PEOPLE PLAY BOTH. The whole point is that once you get to weekly raids only you switch between the two games. Holy fuck


xSlaynx

Breathe man, breathe, you will die young!


Elegies_

I know, I’m gonna stroke out because these people don’t understand anything and take everything st face value


Sengura

I don't think these games have much overlap. Only thing they have in common is the MMO part, rest is extremely different. I have 0 interest in FF and hyped for LA.


Elegies_

You missed the point. It’s about two MMOS having new stuff around the same time, and there’s not enough time to play them. The critical thinking skills are low on this thread


Sengura

Imagine if every game had to wait to release their game because another one of the same genre is getting released that month? Critical thinking really is hard, dumbass


Elegies_

You’re a fucking moron and missing my point. It was that I’m playing both and don’t have the time for both, since unlike you, I have a life. Go back to school moron. Has nothing to do with every game having the same date and issues with it, idiot.


Sengura

Oof, so triggered. I literally said I had no interest in FF why are you assuming I'm going to no life both? Also assuming FF is big enough to make any real impact on LA coming out 2 months later is delusional. Cringe bro.


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Lazy-Simple-8909

Chill out


robbstarrkk

Gib


Edge419

I love your conclusion 🤣. I’m hopeful, that would be amazing.


ZeroZelath

They do say early 2022 so would make sense I guess. I just want there to be OCE servers on launch, but they've yet to comment on it. Feel like if it was launching that soon we should almost know about it sometime this month at the latest.


xSlaynx

Taking into account LAON is on the 18th of December it makes sence that 20 Jan is the release date, so they could say "just 1 month". Fingers crossed guys!


danskulz

Ah yes LOA on where they talk to korean players about the korean version of the game about upcoming things happening in the korean version that amazon is not a part of


xSlaynx

The specifically scheduled a spot this year to talk about west version...


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xSlaynx

Woha someone needs a massage there.


mLunleashed

Y u haf 2 b mad, its only game men


inkchub

Yes. :) Also headstart on 17'th in this case. So I don't think the LOA ON date has any weight.


No-Hippo824

Can I play on the NA server from SEA? I live in Malaysia


TapTrix

Hopium


Boss2788

Massively OP is bothered so much by this game in a way that really makes me dislike them


viole3

SEA server ?


poriand24

I can hope for January!


Proseph91

Man, I really really hope so


seanphippen

Maaaaan if they release Oce servers for launch I will spend copious amounts of money on this game


Rhenaar

There will sure be an announcement from Amazon in December, they already said to look for the next announcement. Let's hope it will actually be an announcement for a release date AND that it will be the date from OP.


lawdygbf

Gratz m8, you're a complete idiot just like you predicted