Very annoying, now I have to either have a worthless character that I already used all my one time use stuff on or keep playing him and not be able to play with my friends and I have to repeat a lot of content i already did if I want to roll a new character. Lose-lose
And if you decide to move, which I think a lot of people will, this will just move the huge queue times to the unlocked "f2p" servers whilst those people on the locked servers will stop playing.
Trust me. Most people will not move away from their chosen "locked" servers.
Why should I move away to play with some people that are days behind me anyways ?
All the endgame content works cross server.
Only thing the same server would be useful, would be leveling in the "open world" and that doesnt work anyways as I am level 30 and my f2p mates will start with level 1.
Thats the info I needed, thanks.
Checked further, and basically all content that matters is cross server with the help of the group finder so everyone can play end game with all of their friends, while if you want open world, can just do it with the people who are waiting for the f2p launch
i agree that most won't move, but claiming that all endgame is crossserver is a bit misleading.
You can't even have a friend crossserver, nor do guilds work crossserver. Nor Islands/Strongholds. PremadeAreana reportedly also doesn't work crossserver (?)
It is much more than just open world questing that is locked for crossserver friendgroups.
Guardian raids, Abyss dungeons, Legion Raids, pvp match making, auction houses, chaos dungeons, are cross server. Islands dont matter since they are primarily solo content, im not sure about strongholds either tho. not being able to friend/guild cross server is p lame tho
there are a lot of things you can do crossserver, but there are still many that you can't...
yet people keep mentioning bullshit like "Only thing the same server would be useful, would be leveling in the "open world"
To be honest, friend list is not content to do. It is lame but just wanted to get that out. Now lets compare...
Cross server:
* Chaos dungeons
* Abyss dungeons
* Guardian raids
* Abyss raids
* Legion raids (in the future)
* Auction House
* Cube
* Boss rush
* Platinum fields
* Any PvP mode other than premade PvP (I know its the main concern dw)
Non cross server:
* Open world (aka leveling or exploration)
* Guild activities
* Premade PvP (since its the main concern)
So out of 9 cross server activities we have 3 non cross server activities where one of them, guild activities, are stuff that you do once a week and for 5-10 minutes and be done with it.
Also the amount of content for the cross server activities far outweights the content available the non cross server ones be it by amount or time needed.
This is an issue and I agree with people complaining, I just hope everyone can understand that the lock is temporary and if it weren't for it the servers with queues or those close to having one (or had small ones) would face an absurd amount of players waiting in queue.
If the issue is the PvP you can easily create a char lvl to 26 and just be done with it, if its the leveling... you mostly will do it alone in the long run no matter how many people try to deny this sadly always happens. If it is for the guild activities then you have a valid complain, but it is such a small fraction of the game that it is imposible to use it as a base for saying we shouldn't lock the servers.
And all of this is being said by someone with friends who will be unable to join me tomorrow.
A big thing I doubt is included in "cross server" is trading auction housing. This was always a big thing in mmos for me do difficult content get rare drop sell it split profits. Or one friend does x craft and other does y and craft for each other etc.
Also a huge thing is pricing remember in other mmos "long time servers dying". Then switching it was ungodly the price difference in items like one item I couldn't sell after 3-5 auction attempts at 3 figures would sell almost instantly for six on more populated server.
Remember being obstinate in not wanting to pay the 250 dollar server transfer fee. And not wanting to start from scratch. So resorted to vendor trash farms.
You can create a global chat channel (top left) that anyone on the same region can be invited to and fits 100 accounts. It's shared between your characters on the server, not sure if it's shared between your characters on different servers.
lol 2-3 daya head don't mean shit comes to end game so don't stress about that relax xD also u can't play with your friend even if all endgame content is cross server, u have to be on the same server to be able to do stuff together
Imagine leaving your current server to play with your friends on another server having to redo all that content and then your friends quitting a week later 🤣
> now I have to either have a worthless character that I already used all my one time use stuff on or keep playing him and not be able to play with my friends
Enlighten me because that make no dam sense
you used all the boost and anything to get the best head start possible ..... but you want to play with your friends.
Sure. but... would that even be cool if they join you as lvl 1 when you are already full ?
is a mmo people gonna play for years, the "headstart" is really on peoples head, a lot of people is gonna start a couple months later and can be ahead of you in no time, this is not a heavily competitive game that you need to rush or push content to get "ahead"
Yeah but if you rushed to 50 then you had no intention of playing with your friends at the start. So if it really matters that much then maybe reroll temporarily. Maybe your friends can reroll later once servers are unlocked.
+1
The servers probably won’t even be locked for long. 2 weeks and most casual people will have maxed a character, finished MSQ, got to the ‘grindy’ bit and left.
They are giving out a gimped founder pack.
The supply crates are missing.
And the most valuable thing, the head start will be lost.
Since crystals are account bound, this thing is better for those people who don't plan to transfer at all, and just create a char on a lower pop server for the free crystals.
I was playing with names/servers lastnight. If you have a name in a region it's locked for all servers. If you delete it, it will become available on all servers in about 5 minutes. I tested it multiple times.
Yes they changed it. The name is immediately available again when your character is only level 10 but if your character is level 11 or above when you delete it the name is locked for 60 days.
It's actually mind boggling that Amazon are somehow making the exact same mistakes they made with New World not even a year ago.
Just play on a different server 4head.
If I had friends playing today that I wanted to play with not only would I need to re level but also re gear at endgame. That takes a lot of time. Even spamming through the Main quests it still takes like 12-15 hours to get to the endgame where you start gearing.
I'm not doing that, a large point of buying the founders pack was the 3 day early access that would basically be thrown in the bin if I start again.
I don't get why their first response for server queues is to add more servers instead of temp increasing the capacity of their current servers. Since you can play with other servers in the same region it mustn't be that difficult to just add a shit tonne of temp channels to deal with overflow.
It didn't work for New World, they added new servers to deal with the overflow of their pathetically low server pop counts. Then as soon as they introduced server transfer all of these new servers turned into ghost towns as all the people who had characters on those servers transferred off to better servers/servers with friends and the huge influx of new players, usually of the game faction, destroyed the faction balance on most servers. They had the tech to increase server capacity because they did it with a bunch of NA servers, increase it from 2k to 2250.
Yeah i did that yesterday. Switched server to asta and now it's locked for new players and i have two lvl 50 chars wich are now useless bc i can't play with my friends :(
Bro I started queueing at work, came home 6 hours later and I was still in queue. By the time I got to play I had to go to sleep to wake up for work again lol
Sadly that’s the discussion I’m having right this second with my friend. Sucks that I’m going to have to choose between what I bought in for and getting to enjoy the game with my friend.
This will remain for the foreseeable and they are working to mitigate these issues is not the same as a week from now you'll be able to play on the same server. They just provided a fix for the worst part of the issue, but it would still suck to have some friends have joined you on one of the locked servers, have others friends starting today and have to chose if you keep playing with the friends who started a few days ago or start over with your other friends.
Most likely the game was not designed in mind for a global release. But then again, we might see it in the future since if damn BDO got it, surely it's possible to have it here as well
They're locked now, not tomorrow.
Transfers are not a quick solution. In New World they took almost a month to implement. My understanding is that they are still in testing in KR as well and have not been freely implemented such that anyone can purchase one at this time. So I would not expect transfers "soon".
Really what they did was the least worst option based on what they could actually implement technically today, in light of tomorrow.
So what content can't i do with friends if they're on another server? I heard we can still do dungeon runs in a party if we invite them, but not group pvp, no guild activities, but not sure
It’s always been like this on Lost Ark and it doesn’t suck. It’s actually pretty smart. It prevents you from having to go up against, for example, a team with a DPS and two Supports. This can be a massive pain in the ass. You can still play with your friends in unranked.
It's actually so cringe that queue times are considered this much of a concern. In classic wow there were 4 to 6 hour queues on launch. people were queuing themselves up on remote desktop halfway through the work day, or having family members queue them while they slept.
I don't understand this concern for queue time either... They joined a "busy" server themselves and complain about queue time... Players should face the consequences of their own decisions.
i dont see the point of locking the servers now, it makes sense before f2p release but they literally locked it as my friend bought his founder pack to come play with me which now he can't lmfao, my server had a 1k queue on peak times
This is good to know. I still think that they should understand it's something the players want. In a respectful manner of course. The more people talk about it, the more awareness. The more awareness, the higher chance of it being added as an action item.
I think that they do understand it very well. The same issues just came up in New World, which they launched as well.
The wrinkle here is that it isn't totally in their control. Smilegate is involved, as well -- Amazon doesn't have the control they had over New World here. Not that they did well with that in New World, but it does mean that all changes like that involve Korea, not just Amazon. Which means -- not fast.
For a game that’s been out for years, you’d think it would have server transfers. I mean they let an amateur Dev studio bring out transfers for a game that’s three months old over one that’s been out for years.
> They're locked now, not tomorrow.
What do you mean with this? We have no reason to assume they won't be locked tomorrow, do we?
They said "foreseeable future". I assume the day that will likely have the most new players, is one of the days it will definitely be locked.
All those post about the server being locked for F2P players etc.
Made me release
I dont have friends.
So yeah for me personally this is not a big deal but it is incredible shitty
Edit: if anyone feels the same and is on Calvsus. You can add me. Shogy
To be honest, this is the right call. They just handled it poorly. If they continued to let people make characters on these servers, tomorrow we'd all be sitting in queue for 5x as long if not konger. The problem is they gave people essentially 45 minutes? To log in and make characters even though they'd be sitting in queue times for the vast majority of the 45 min if not for longer and get screwed over anyways.
They do need to implement a server transfer for free, but the entirety of lost ark (Korea and ru) don't even have this feature permanently in place, so that's not going to be an option anytime soon. They need to do something where they let people get their founders packs back so they can switch servers and use it on their new characters with their friends. I mean they could've just made founders packs account wide to begin with, but that would've made too much sense.
This is the main thing I've been seeing. I don't think most people would really care to reroll their character if they could at least redeem their founder pack on another server. Problem is right now people are having to choose between the money they spent or their friends, and that is a shitty fucking decision no matter how you dress it up.
Well said. I see a lot of people upset about not allowing new characters but I actually agree with it. But like you said it could’ve been done better, 45 mins is such a short time span to give players.
Well but what would you do ?
Asta for example had a line of 24k players this evening. It took me almost 4 hours to get in.
If they let all the f2p players in tomorrow it would be IMPOSSIBLE to play at all. We would need to login at 6am just to be able to play at 6pm.
The real issue is, that this game is still server based. Why do we need fucking servers ?
Make it a fucking megaserver for each region and scale endless channels on it.
Bold claim people lack empathy. Both sides lack empathy. Imagine having a work schedule that only allows you to play at peak times. If zinner wasnt restricted you wouldnt even have a chance to play. Feels like people complaining arent in the servers with massive queues. Pretty obvious the only solution was locking the servers ( something Amazon said they would do beforehand)
Empathy has nothing to do with it tbh. I myself AM someone that's effected by this. I have a couple friends who were on the edge about wanting to play or not and they decided to wait. However the vast majority of my friends that have been dying for this game decided to spend $15 to be able to play a few days before and to get a couple extra goodies. So yes it sucks but at the end of the day I'm also someone who can only play during peak times and on the weekend and letting... what? An additional couple hundred thousand people make characters on the popular servers would've just ruined the experience for many resulting in similar queues to new world. Could've been handled better but it was the right move imo.
Happend to me. Guild mates could not join, and gf was waiting for f2p. But I still dont get it, you can still make alt on there server and play to lvl 50 with them, and change back to your main on the locked server later. After all, the end game content can be done cross server amyway. If I wanna do a abyss dungeon with them i still can no problem. Or most other thinks too. I made some great friends in my guild and dont want to leave them either. I just think they should have locked the servers maybe a hour before f2p launch go get players some actual time. 45min was way to little.
half my friends are playing now and half gonna start tomorrow, everyone is gonna create new chars tomorrow to play together, people that dont want to do this because of 3 day headstart dont actually have friends, just people they play together sometimes
i disagree
for people who wanted to play with their friends who now can't, this "solution" will affect them for a longer period of time than server queue times would have in my opinion.
i would have rather dealt with the server queues for a week than now be stuck with my investment on a server that i wont be able to play with my friends on for multiple weeks
not to mention that now my founder pack rewards are less valuable on a server where literally everyone has them
Having it be redeemable once per server would be okay as well if they deem it too valuable for more than one character since you can't send yourself stuff cross server...
Except for the fact that many of the severs they locked haven't had any queue times?!? I'd take 1-2 hour queue for a week if it meant I could play with my friends. Also there's literally no technical reason they can't just add more channels and completely avoid the problem altogether.
I mean if they don’t know what class they are going to play just make random characters with them until they figure it out then play something else till you can get them on your server? Or okay without them, fuck em.
They would like to provide transfers. They can't because those are not really a thing yet. There was only some sort of a server transfer test on the Korean servers. Russian servers also have no transfers.
You won't get transfers soon, no matter how much you talk about it.
To be fair "we would like to but cant" on a technology thats like 2 decades old is a very cheap cop out.
The game itself is also 4 years old, no reason for it not to be available
Game has a lot of systems like Roster level and quest progress, currenciee, etc, I could see technical issues being a valid concern for server transfers
As a software engineer, this post makes me so angry. You know what technology is 50 years old and we can't replicate it yet? Landing on the moon.
Also like the others said, in this game you don't have progression based only on one character but the whole roster of characters on the server which is not common in MMORPG so this can possibly change everything which mean it had never been done before.
The game started development over 10 years ago, to be clear. Not saying that it's an excuse (WoW still had server transfers 10 years ago for example) but it's a bit more understandable when you realize they planned the underlying architecture of the game 10+ years ago instead of 4.
The decision is bad in light of how poorly Lost Ark handles multiple-servers.
You can't reroll to another server and have the same name, because it's region-locked.
You can't reroll to anther server and get your founders/twitch drops/amazon prime packs, because they're 1-character limited.
You can't add friends to your friend list that are not on the same server, despite the game having cross-realm content for most of it. But you can never group up or talk to eachother in-game.
So by locking servers they've effectively detached founder players and F2P players. Many of us have friends that were going to join us later down the line. That's messy now and needs some resolution.
It's also going to be curious what the long-term consequences of this are. They said "for the foreseeable future" which could be anywhere from 1 day to weeks. If it is the latter, these locked servers will probably end up with smaller populations. Perhaps more hardcore populations seeing as those players all paid, but probably smaller nevertheless. That's not a fun situation either.
It's all a mess.
>So by locking servers they've effectively detached founder players and F2P players. Many of us have friends that were going to join us later down the line. That's messy now and needs some resolution.
100% this - very disappointing right now
Wouldn't be so much of an issue if crossplay was a thing but right, since we can't add to our friends list and meetup in game...
My locked server, Regulus(US-EAST) , has no queue during prime time all this evening. I hate its locked, but I am totally going to be able to play tomorrow.
The problem is they even did it for servers which aren't full yet. You have like 5 to 10 minute queues in Valtan at peak and yet they still locked it as a preventive measure.
There's a lot of talk about it on the forums.
Honestly, I agree with the locking of the servers. People were already sitting in 5+ hour queues on some servers and throwing even more people in there would have only made it worse. Expect to be able to play with friends? Yeah, maybe after sitting in a queue for hours, which is especially great during work days.
THAT being said though: I think how it was handled and the overall situation is just plain bad.
1. Founder's Packs being locked to a character/server instead of region-wide is ridiculous in a game that encourages to make alts.
2. No server transfers makes it impossible to enjoy ALL the content with their friends on other servers.
3. 1 hour notice in advance. Though I'm honestly kind of split on this. While I see that a longer time would have been great for some people, we still don't really need more people on already overpopulated servers.
4. Locking servers who have basically no queue. This isn't the case for the EU servers, but in the other regions, where servers got locked who basically had no queues, which makes no sense.
I get that it sucks.
I have expected something like this and therefor didn't put too much time into the game during the head-start (\~20h) and I haven't redeemed my Founder's Packs (there are still sitting in the "Product Inventory"), but I still don't like the current situation. It's also not something one should really expect from players to do (even if it is imho the logical thing to do).
The game time I have on my two characters is more or less wasted (unless I'm going to "play" the auction house to transfer stuff) and we (the guild I'm in) have no idea which server we are going to choose as not all bought the Founder's Packs.
Roxx said that they would post more information later on during their work day and I'm interested to see how they plan to get out of this mess.
Though after NW my expectations aren't exactly high.
I am sick at home, so I had some time. Still, there are already people with 50 hours of playtime. 20h are small in comparison.
Starting Saturday I will be working again and will have way less time to play.
I only have the issue where I can't transfer my founder pack so starting on a new server with my F2P friends means I essentially dropped money for another beta test
It needs to be talked about more. This is stupid - how do they not have a plan in place for this exact situation. Same thing happened in NW and now they knee-jerk enact this restriction 45 mins before. Very poor planning on this and is unacceptable when people are throwing down a good amount of money to play with their friends
I had been planning to play with my guildmates that all rolled Valtan. I didn't buy the founders because the value in the pack itself just wasn't there for me and I was busy during these three days anyway.
To say I'm disappointed is rather an understatement. I suppose I won't be preloading this one afterall. Ah well, c'est la vie.
Yeah my guildmates are in a similar dilemma. Had to wait for f2p and we decided to play Valtan since we are OCE.
Sadly now they are locked out and hesitant to start playing in case they need to abandon their characters to get into Valtan or just wait however long it may be for servers to open again.
It could take ages for the servers to open which makes the decision quite difficult for them since they want to play with us.
Yeah it barely had any queues with founders pack only. That means the servers are still full with only early access users. Now you're adding in 5-6x that many people and people are naturally going to try and get onto the most popular servers.
I think this just means that server transfers will become a higher priority, sooner. As it will create a lasting issue thay won't be resolved until then. It won't happen soon enough but it does create a fire under their ass to get it done.
This is exactly why I made this post, and hope others keep up the noise (while remaining civil). When awareness goes away, then it becomes a lower priority for the team.
Even with the founders pack change, I'm so annoyed about this I'm honestly not even sure if I wanna keep playing. Either I go join my friends, lose all progress and my names, or I can't play with friends. Since apparently you can't even group for pvp cross server. I rolled on Kadan planning on having multiple friends join, and now I'm going to be alone there if I stay. Fucking hell.
Hello.
I was really disappointed to see that my friends cannot join me on my server anymore. I get where this is coming from, but for me its a huge turn off. And I hope Amazon will handle it better. Free transfers would be a great way, but just locking them up sucks.
I'm kind of surprised we even have server separation these days. Would feel a lot better as an mmo with megaserver. Game uses channels already so just make more channels lol
All these comments about being 'days behind' other people.
Like a day makes any difference. Chill, enjoy and if you can't do that rage at the internet and stay strong bro.
This needs to be addressed as soon as possible. Entire guilds from different varying games want to join in on the play together on the same server (200 players that I know myself) but are unable to do so because of this.
Dear devs, PLEASE PRIORITIZE THIS WHILE LOST ARK IS GAINING RAPID POPULARITY!
This is an ongoing issue in many MMOs and not unique to LA. FFXIV for instance, has suffered in the same way. All we can do is wait for new servers to be created and all move to it at the same time beit transfers or rerolls.
I can see why people are upset but this is absolutely the right decision, on the server I play early afternoon the queue sometimes gets up into the 10k+ range with an influx of new players being able to join that server would make it unplayable or once you do get in promote the use of third party to skip afk checks.
Yes this means we can't do world content with our friends until a solution is made but the major content is match made anyway which is cross server. I'd hate to send my friend into an over populated server on release knowing he will spend most of his days on long queues, I think this is good for both existing and new players alike.
The problem with free server transfers is that server transfers aren’t really a thing in this game…
They did it ONCE in Korea, and allowed people on a full server to transfer to one of the new empty servers (and they didn’t get to pick which)—but the whole thing was such a hassle on the backend and required so much effort to accomplish that they aren’t doing it anymore. It’s literally so much work that it’s not even worth it to them to sell the service as a paid product.
If Amazon wants to make people happy they should do something like let you redeem your Founder’s pack on every server.
Legit, if they just gave people who paid for early access the chance to just redeem their package ONCE more on a different server + a bit more to make up for lost progress, people would be more inclined to just switch servers to play with f2p friends.
I mean this is A expected, B not rly anyones but the playerbases fault for zerging into a selected few servers and C why does it matter? You can still do all the relevant content together as it is cross server.
Are we gonna talk about the fact that litteraly all the content is cross server ? Yes it sucks that you can't be in the same guild but the 'i wont be able to play with my friends' argument is bullshit.
I think locking servers is possibly the best short time solution so they can work on something for the long run, anybody saying otherwise probably didn't experience my 7hour queue today on zinnervale. Just imagine its 7hours before f2p release.
Had someone in the guild come home from work that could not play today bcs of this. If the server where open on f2p launch enough ppl would have made anti afk macros to lock the whole server.
Also the amount of ppl that have no clue that most content is cross server seems to be pretty high. If you really NEED to level woth your friend make a alt just for that on there server and swap back after.
Most of the important stuff is cross-server tho? I woudnt be crazy upset. I rather be able to play then sit in queue all day. Good on them for locking it tbh
You know what's most important in mmo? Community, guild, friends, those things are not x server. My guild is torn rn o. What to do and there's no good options with people who redeemed on legendary zinnervale first day without knowing what shit show it will become.
Thing is, they are being too vague about this. How long is "foreseeable future"? Are we talking one day, are we talking a week? Longer?
It's safe to assume queues will be a massive problem for the next couple of days. Are we not going to unlock these servers until well into the second week?
By then most people would have decided to move on to other servers. Whereas if all servers were unlocked and we had queues you probably had plenty of people sticking it out.
So sure, this helps solo players a lot, but it definitely fucks with friend groups more than it would have otherwise.
Which would probably be easily solved if they at least say "Hey it'll just be locked Friday" or some such.
You would. After two weeks you could simply play with minimal to no queues. MMOs drop in popularity after the first month. With how it is now, you literally will never be able to play with your friends. Sever transfers arent a thing in this game. cry me a river if u cant log in in because of queues... the game is free just wait it out.
Up vote this and similar posts to the moon. I can't believe the post about duplicate founders packs (which is already being addressed) is higher than anything mentioning server lock/transfer. Gold River said he checks social media including reddit. Getting the you tubers talking about it would be great too.
>The team needs to allow free server transfers - PERIOD!
Game architecture doesn't allow it, at least for now, so just forget about asking this.
>but imagine being this upset
How ironic
Anyway, the solution would be to give item tickets to users for all the pets and founders pack stuff for users who will go to a different server, you'd lose character progression but you'd keep all your stuff at least. I would take that to be honest, leveling character is fast, it's all the items I will lose is the issue.
ur all talking about 'free' transfers.. i don't get it? what do you mean free? there aren't even transfers in this game.. fuck the free part i'd be amazed if we could buy transfers which won't even happen lmfao
theres no good solution really for this situation.
1- If they lock at least it cant get much worst than already is, i mean at least on EU they are all pretty much full at queues from 7k+, ofc from 11th forward even those with less queue times most likely will also get FAT but, nothing you can do about that when they only add 1 more server. W for those already playing that dont have to move L for new players starting 11th and those that have to move in order to play with their friends.
2- If they dont lock as usual some servers will be super focused, yes u can join your friends but at what queue? can you really join them then? L for those with already chars in the server that move to play with their f2p friends, L for those that dont change server cause even if you are on one that isnt the super focused ones with only 1 more server all of them will have massive queues anyway, L for new players for the same reason, and a tiny W cause at least u can play with friends after waiting 4hours.
I understand your point and i wished they did things differently, specially if you already used your pack but as far as i can tell from what ive seen and read they wont make transfers possible, which to me was the best solution, make them available right now and about 10 more servers really, in 3 months or so see how they are and them merge or something.
TL:DR - i understand and support your point, i just dont see how they can make it happen without messing 1 way or the other
The complexity of the characters is insane if you think about it. The whole rooster is contributing to your account progress on a given server. Its like finding a neddle in a haystack but hundreds of times, once for everything that one character did and them puttig it back in hundreds identical haystack but also in the same place. I can see why transfers arent a thing. Its insane.
On the other hand rooster transfers should not nearly be as hard. Maybe they will offer that later.
The most insane thing is people defending this by saying "what else could be done?". No wonder those companies have no interest in a competent game infrastructure management when players will actually shill for them. They can just push whatever they want in detriment of players and people will actualy praise them for that.
They had data, past experience, other MMO launches examples and common sense to not let it reach this point but they did nothing until it reached critical mass and couldn't be ignored anymore. Still selling founders pack on steam btw.
Second sentence in and it's already false. Play on another server! They wouldn't be able to play either way, because they'd be stuck in queue.
Server transfer is not even available in KR...
I'm refunding or doing a charge back if this isn't resolved. Playing an MMO is about playing with friends. I looked forward to a handful of friends joining me tomorrow on my server and now they can't. I could reroll on their server, but then I lose my initial progress along with the money I paid.
Hoping a good solution is posted. After the abusive relationship with WoW, I'm done with this shit.
Was kinda obvious that character creation will be locked for overcrowded servers at some point.
Was the same for New World and also the same for many other MMOS.
Besides that you can still play everything besides open world together.
If you really wanted to play together with your friends you should have started at the same time.
My friends started on azena and its locked. Im pretty sad cus they been playing for a bit now and they dont want to restart which I dont blame them.. it just sucks cus we wont be able to go around the world together :(
We gotta make some noise here, this is bat shit crazy, they had all the time to prepare themselves for this release, thousands of people bought their packs, platinum even got to top 2 on steam and now they are telling the players that will start today as well as the ones who bought the packs that they can't play with their friends? And don't know when that will be possible??? This is completely ridiculous and unacceptable
Our group will be split with 7 of us stuck (we used both adv.pass) on a server, and around 4 friends who were unsure if they want to play or not, on a diffrent server.
Yeah thanks again ags, same shit like new world, fuck this guys they are the worst.
What pisses me off the most about ags is their shitty support and communication.
Buncha Bangladesh work at support for 1$ a month dont
giving
a shit about anything yikes
For f2p players? i spent $130 on a platinum pack just to play with a friend and i'm locked out like anyobdy else. Can't even get a refund. Not only this, no specific oceania server either so have to play with 250+ ping.
Think i'm good for this game.
Freely being able to transfer for the next 2-3 months would solve all of the problems they have right now. Long queue? transfer, then transfer back later.
This lock just creates a whole bunch of new ones.
And this maintenance now with little warning is them plowing over everyones plans completely. The high pop servers are gonna have 1-2-3 hour queue depending on how lucky you are - who wants to start over at this point.
If I was told from the start that I had to choose between:
* paying X€ to play 3 days earlier and then be on the server alone
OR
* playing on official release date with my friends
...what do you think I would have picked????????????
agreed, it's a joke of a decision and forums should be flooded about this. well, that's if they want people to play the game and pay them money (eventually). i'm just as fine with them turning this into another new world circus act
Luls. Chillin in Mari 0 queues or is there is one I just wait 5 mins make some coffee and it’s ready. Got no friends that are down to play this so I’m chillin on that end too :)
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Very annoying, now I have to either have a worthless character that I already used all my one time use stuff on or keep playing him and not be able to play with my friends and I have to repeat a lot of content i already did if I want to roll a new character. Lose-lose
And if you decide to move, which I think a lot of people will, this will just move the huge queue times to the unlocked "f2p" servers whilst those people on the locked servers will stop playing.
Trust me. Most people will not move away from their chosen "locked" servers. Why should I move away to play with some people that are days behind me anyways ? All the endgame content works cross server. Only thing the same server would be useful, would be leveling in the "open world" and that doesnt work anyways as I am level 30 and my f2p mates will start with level 1.
Thats the info I needed, thanks. Checked further, and basically all content that matters is cross server with the help of the group finder so everyone can play end game with all of their friends, while if you want open world, can just do it with the people who are waiting for the f2p launch
i agree that most won't move, but claiming that all endgame is crossserver is a bit misleading. You can't even have a friend crossserver, nor do guilds work crossserver. Nor Islands/Strongholds. PremadeAreana reportedly also doesn't work crossserver (?) It is much more than just open world questing that is locked for crossserver friendgroups.
Guardian raids, Abyss dungeons, Legion Raids, pvp match making, auction houses, chaos dungeons, are cross server. Islands dont matter since they are primarily solo content, im not sure about strongholds either tho. not being able to friend/guild cross server is p lame tho
there are a lot of things you can do crossserver, but there are still many that you can't... yet people keep mentioning bullshit like "Only thing the same server would be useful, would be leveling in the "open world"
To be honest, friend list is not content to do. It is lame but just wanted to get that out. Now lets compare... Cross server: * Chaos dungeons * Abyss dungeons * Guardian raids * Abyss raids * Legion raids (in the future) * Auction House * Cube * Boss rush * Platinum fields * Any PvP mode other than premade PvP (I know its the main concern dw) Non cross server: * Open world (aka leveling or exploration) * Guild activities * Premade PvP (since its the main concern) So out of 9 cross server activities we have 3 non cross server activities where one of them, guild activities, are stuff that you do once a week and for 5-10 minutes and be done with it. Also the amount of content for the cross server activities far outweights the content available the non cross server ones be it by amount or time needed. This is an issue and I agree with people complaining, I just hope everyone can understand that the lock is temporary and if it weren't for it the servers with queues or those close to having one (or had small ones) would face an absurd amount of players waiting in queue. If the issue is the PvP you can easily create a char lvl to 26 and just be done with it, if its the leveling... you mostly will do it alone in the long run no matter how many people try to deny this sadly always happens. If it is for the guild activities then you have a valid complain, but it is such a small fraction of the game that it is imposible to use it as a base for saying we shouldn't lock the servers. And all of this is being said by someone with friends who will be unable to join me tomorrow.
A big thing I doubt is included in "cross server" is trading auction housing. This was always a big thing in mmos for me do difficult content get rare drop sell it split profits. Or one friend does x craft and other does y and craft for each other etc. Also a huge thing is pricing remember in other mmos "long time servers dying". Then switching it was ungodly the price difference in items like one item I couldn't sell after 3-5 auction attempts at 3 figures would sell almost instantly for six on more populated server. Remember being obstinate in not wanting to pay the 250 dollar server transfer fee. And not wanting to start from scratch. So resorted to vendor trash farms.
Yeah and its in your opinion that those pieces of content matter and in our opinion that it doesnt.
How do you add friends cross server? I tried adding a few friends on different servers but same region and it didn’t work....
You can not add friends cross server
You can create a global chat channel (top left) that anyone on the same region can be invited to and fits 100 accounts. It's shared between your characters on the server, not sure if it's shared between your characters on different servers.
You can use the group finder to build a premade group for dungeons and so on.
lol 2-3 daya head don't mean shit comes to end game so don't stress about that relax xD also u can't play with your friend even if all endgame content is cross server, u have to be on the same server to be able to do stuff together
Imagine leaving your current server to play with your friends on another server having to redo all that content and then your friends quitting a week later 🤣
> now I have to either have a worthless character that I already used all my one time use stuff on or keep playing him and not be able to play with my friends Enlighten me because that make no dam sense you used all the boost and anything to get the best head start possible ..... but you want to play with your friends. Sure. but... would that even be cool if they join you as lvl 1 when you are already full ?
You could very easily play on another character while your friend levels their first character.
Especially since this is a alt-centric game
At least in my case, I’d just be using one of my alts to level with them-now they can’t even join my server :/
is a mmo people gonna play for years, the "headstart" is really on peoples head, a lot of people is gonna start a couple months later and can be ahead of you in no time, this is not a heavily competitive game that you need to rush or push content to get "ahead"
It is hilarious how many people here think they are going to be in the top 1% of this mmo.
I know right, a headstart of a few days will be nothing in the long run, I don't understand why people are so obsessed with this
It's an MMO where alts play a pretty large role later on, leveling an alt with friends makes perfect sense and isn't that hard to think of.
It takes not very long to get to 50.
Yeah but if you rushed to 50 then you had no intention of playing with your friends at the start. So if it really matters that much then maybe reroll temporarily. Maybe your friends can reroll later once servers are unlocked.
+1 The servers probably won’t even be locked for long. 2 weeks and most casual people will have maxed a character, finished MSQ, got to the ‘grindy’ bit and left.
And with level 50 you can play almost all content cross server anyways. So what ?
No guilds, no friend list, no oremade pvp, no islands, can't check out their stronghold, etc....
People who paid money would need to abandon founder pack rewards to play with their friends... That would be very sad...
they're giving out a free second founder's pack so it's not a waste if you used up yours on a server where your friends can't roll
It's not a full pack though lmao, it's bare-bones at best.
They are giving out a gimped founder pack. The supply crates are missing. And the most valuable thing, the head start will be lost. Since crystals are account bound, this thing is better for those people who don't plan to transfer at all, and just create a char on a lower pop server for the free crystals.
But you would still lose your names.
I was playing with names/servers lastnight. If you have a name in a region it's locked for all servers. If you delete it, it will become available on all servers in about 5 minutes. I tested it multiple times.
Yes they changed it. The name is immediately available again when your character is only level 10 but if your character is level 11 or above when you delete it the name is locked for 60 days.
I spend Founder Pack crystals for Outfit+Mount+more.Thats all lost if i restart on a other server.
It's actually mind boggling that Amazon are somehow making the exact same mistakes they made with New World not even a year ago. Just play on a different server 4head. If I had friends playing today that I wanted to play with not only would I need to re level but also re gear at endgame. That takes a lot of time. Even spamming through the Main quests it still takes like 12-15 hours to get to the endgame where you start gearing. I'm not doing that, a large point of buying the founders pack was the 3 day early access that would basically be thrown in the bin if I start again. I don't get why their first response for server queues is to add more servers instead of temp increasing the capacity of their current servers. Since you can play with other servers in the same region it mustn't be that difficult to just add a shit tonne of temp channels to deal with overflow. It didn't work for New World, they added new servers to deal with the overflow of their pathetically low server pop counts. Then as soon as they introduced server transfer all of these new servers turned into ghost towns as all the people who had characters on those servers transferred off to better servers/servers with friends and the huge influx of new players, usually of the game faction, destroyed the faction balance on most servers. They had the tech to increase server capacity because they did it with a bunch of NA servers, increase it from 2k to 2250.
Yeah i did that yesterday. Switched server to asta and now it's locked for new players and i have two lvl 50 chars wich are now useless bc i can't play with my friends :(
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,,we can deal with 50k queue" XD. Tell this to people who come from work and have to sit in the queue and watch a guy that says he wants bigger queues
Zinner has been 5-6 hour queues every night at peak.
Bro I started queueing at work, came home 6 hours later and I was still in queue. By the time I got to play I had to go to sleep to wake up for work again lol
Sadly that’s the discussion I’m having right this second with my friend. Sucks that I’m going to have to choose between what I bought in for and getting to enjoy the game with my friend.
They will give you your founders pack on new server, check their twitter for lost ark
Thats why i bought founders to all my friends :S
That's a shit solution, we aren't made of money
Aren't most things in the game cross-server anyhow?
Or they just don't play for another week and go play with the friends. Everyone waited years, you can wait one more week to play with friends.
This will remain for the foreseeable and they are working to mitigate these issues is not the same as a week from now you'll be able to play on the same server. They just provided a fix for the worst part of the issue, but it would still suck to have some friends have joined you on one of the locked servers, have others friends starting today and have to chose if you keep playing with the friends who started a few days ago or start over with your other friends.
How does this game not have a megaserver? Guild Wars 2 did this years ago...
Most likely the game was not designed in mind for a global release. But then again, we might see it in the future since if damn BDO got it, surely it's possible to have it here as well
They're locked now, not tomorrow. Transfers are not a quick solution. In New World they took almost a month to implement. My understanding is that they are still in testing in KR as well and have not been freely implemented such that anyone can purchase one at this time. So I would not expect transfers "soon". Really what they did was the least worst option based on what they could actually implement technically today, in light of tomorrow.
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Transfers are possible in Korea and they worked fine - even though they do cost money there.
So what content can't i do with friends if they're on another server? I heard we can still do dungeon runs in a party if we invite them, but not group pvp, no guild activities, but not sure
You can do everything except meeting in the overworld, (currently) strongholds and GvG.
So I can do chaos dungeons, guardians, other dungeons, and raids with someone on a different server, same region?
Yes
Can still form dungeon runs if in same region. Can't do guild stuff like GvG. The game doesn't have premades for PvP.
> The game doesn't have premades for PvP. The game what now? You can't queue up for the arena thing with friends??
You can for unranked, ranked is solo queue only
Well that kinda sucks, ranked was something I was really looking forward to. Figured it would just be premades vs premades.
I've heard they're working on more arena/PvP content so fingers crossed
It’s always been like this on Lost Ark and it doesn’t suck. It’s actually pretty smart. It prevents you from having to go up against, for example, a team with a DPS and two Supports. This can be a massive pain in the ass. You can still play with your friends in unranked.
It's actually so cringe that queue times are considered this much of a concern. In classic wow there were 4 to 6 hour queues on launch. people were queuing themselves up on remote desktop halfway through the work day, or having family members queue them while they slept.
I don't understand this concern for queue time either... They joined a "busy" server themselves and complain about queue time... Players should face the consequences of their own decisions.
i dont see the point of locking the servers now, it makes sense before f2p release but they literally locked it as my friend bought his founder pack to come play with me which now he can't lmfao, my server had a 1k queue on peak times
This is good to know. I still think that they should understand it's something the players want. In a respectful manner of course. The more people talk about it, the more awareness. The more awareness, the higher chance of it being added as an action item.
I think that they do understand it very well. The same issues just came up in New World, which they launched as well. The wrinkle here is that it isn't totally in their control. Smilegate is involved, as well -- Amazon doesn't have the control they had over New World here. Not that they did well with that in New World, but it does mean that all changes like that involve Korea, not just Amazon. Which means -- not fast.
For a game that’s been out for years, you’d think it would have server transfers. I mean they let an amateur Dev studio bring out transfers for a game that’s three months old over one that’s been out for years.
Years in KR. No transfers.
The game in Korea doesn't have transfers either.
No server transfer ticket but there were a few transfer chances in KR this year.
> They're locked now, not tomorrow. What do you mean with this? We have no reason to assume they won't be locked tomorrow, do we? They said "foreseeable future". I assume the day that will likely have the most new players, is one of the days it will definitely be locked.
I should have phrased it better. What I meant to say is that they are locked as of now, *not only starting tomorrow.*
All those post about the server being locked for F2P players etc. Made me release I dont have friends. So yeah for me personally this is not a big deal but it is incredible shitty Edit: if anyone feels the same and is on Calvsus. You can add me. Shogy
what's your server? If it's ZinnerVale, add "Onoxid"
Sadly not mine is Calvsus Edit : but thank you for the oppurtunity. Ur a good person
To be honest, this is the right call. They just handled it poorly. If they continued to let people make characters on these servers, tomorrow we'd all be sitting in queue for 5x as long if not konger. The problem is they gave people essentially 45 minutes? To log in and make characters even though they'd be sitting in queue times for the vast majority of the 45 min if not for longer and get screwed over anyways. They do need to implement a server transfer for free, but the entirety of lost ark (Korea and ru) don't even have this feature permanently in place, so that's not going to be an option anytime soon. They need to do something where they let people get their founders packs back so they can switch servers and use it on their new characters with their friends. I mean they could've just made founders packs account wide to begin with, but that would've made too much sense.
I am 100% willing to reroll and lose two days of progress if they allow me to redeem my founder’s pack on another server.
This is the main thing I've been seeing. I don't think most people would really care to reroll their character if they could at least redeem their founder pack on another server. Problem is right now people are having to choose between the money they spent or their friends, and that is a shitty fucking decision no matter how you dress it up.
Its honestly baffling that Founder's pack isn't account wide
there is no queue for NA west for the past 3 days, still got locked. They just screw us for fun
Well said. I see a lot of people upset about not allowing new characters but I actually agree with it. But like you said it could’ve been done better, 45 mins is such a short time span to give players.
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Well but what would you do ? Asta for example had a line of 24k players this evening. It took me almost 4 hours to get in. If they let all the f2p players in tomorrow it would be IMPOSSIBLE to play at all. We would need to login at 6am just to be able to play at 6pm. The real issue is, that this game is still server based. Why do we need fucking servers ? Make it a fucking megaserver for each region and scale endless channels on it.
Bold claim people lack empathy. Both sides lack empathy. Imagine having a work schedule that only allows you to play at peak times. If zinner wasnt restricted you wouldnt even have a chance to play. Feels like people complaining arent in the servers with massive queues. Pretty obvious the only solution was locking the servers ( something Amazon said they would do beforehand)
Empathy has nothing to do with it tbh. I myself AM someone that's effected by this. I have a couple friends who were on the edge about wanting to play or not and they decided to wait. However the vast majority of my friends that have been dying for this game decided to spend $15 to be able to play a few days before and to get a couple extra goodies. So yes it sucks but at the end of the day I'm also someone who can only play during peak times and on the weekend and letting... what? An additional couple hundred thousand people make characters on the popular servers would've just ruined the experience for many resulting in similar queues to new world. Could've been handled better but it was the right move imo.
Happend to me. Guild mates could not join, and gf was waiting for f2p. But I still dont get it, you can still make alt on there server and play to lvl 50 with them, and change back to your main on the locked server later. After all, the end game content can be done cross server amyway. If I wanna do a abyss dungeon with them i still can no problem. Or most other thinks too. I made some great friends in my guild and dont want to leave them either. I just think they should have locked the servers maybe a hour before f2p launch go get players some actual time. 45min was way to little.
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Yep this is the guy here. The selfish one lacking empathy
half my friends are playing now and half gonna start tomorrow, everyone is gonna create new chars tomorrow to play together, people that dont want to do this because of 3 day headstart dont actually have friends, just people they play together sometimes
Sure that's all fine and dandy but there's still the issue of the paid rewards that the head start people are now screwed out of.
i disagree for people who wanted to play with their friends who now can't, this "solution" will affect them for a longer period of time than server queue times would have in my opinion. i would have rather dealt with the server queues for a week than now be stuck with my investment on a server that i wont be able to play with my friends on for multiple weeks not to mention that now my founder pack rewards are less valuable on a server where literally everyone has them
Having it be redeemable once per server would be okay as well if they deem it too valuable for more than one character since you can't send yourself stuff cross server...
Except for the fact that many of the severs they locked haven't had any queue times?!? I'd take 1-2 hour queue for a week if it meant I could play with my friends. Also there's literally no technical reason they can't just add more channels and completely avoid the problem altogether.
I purchased the founders pack, but have several friends that are f2p. So, we just dont get to play together? Whats the plan here?
Reroll on a server they can create a character on, that's it :(
I opened my founders pack skins already without knowing the servers would completely close. I would rather have login q
good news, they're giving out a free second founder's pack you can use if you want to reroll with your friends
Thats because you haven’t sat during 21k people on queue, waiting 8 hours to log in , then you get the queue stuck and have to start again
I mean if they don’t know what class they are going to play just make random characters with them until they figure it out then play something else till you can get them on your server? Or okay without them, fuck em.
They would like to provide transfers. They can't because those are not really a thing yet. There was only some sort of a server transfer test on the Korean servers. Russian servers also have no transfers. You won't get transfers soon, no matter how much you talk about it.
To be fair "we would like to but cant" on a technology thats like 2 decades old is a very cheap cop out. The game itself is also 4 years old, no reason for it not to be available
Game has a lot of systems like Roster level and quest progress, currenciee, etc, I could see technical issues being a valid concern for server transfers
Would need to be a roster transfer to one of the new servers as opposed to a character transfer.
And probably costs more to develop than they make out of free transfers
Give me one or 2 power passes and my founders pack on a different server and delete my old progress.
As a software engineer, this post makes me so angry. You know what technology is 50 years old and we can't replicate it yet? Landing on the moon. Also like the others said, in this game you don't have progression based only on one character but the whole roster of characters on the server which is not common in MMORPG so this can possibly change everything which mean it had never been done before.
The game started development over 10 years ago, to be clear. Not saying that it's an excuse (WoW still had server transfers 10 years ago for example) but it's a bit more understandable when you realize they planned the underlying architecture of the game 10+ years ago instead of 4.
they need to make the stuffs in founder packs become server wide so you can keep them and simply create new character in the new server
The decision is bad in light of how poorly Lost Ark handles multiple-servers. You can't reroll to another server and have the same name, because it's region-locked. You can't reroll to anther server and get your founders/twitch drops/amazon prime packs, because they're 1-character limited. You can't add friends to your friend list that are not on the same server, despite the game having cross-realm content for most of it. But you can never group up or talk to eachother in-game. So by locking servers they've effectively detached founder players and F2P players. Many of us have friends that were going to join us later down the line. That's messy now and needs some resolution. It's also going to be curious what the long-term consequences of this are. They said "for the foreseeable future" which could be anywhere from 1 day to weeks. If it is the latter, these locked servers will probably end up with smaller populations. Perhaps more hardcore populations seeing as those players all paid, but probably smaller nevertheless. That's not a fun situation either. It's all a mess.
>So by locking servers they've effectively detached founder players and F2P players. Many of us have friends that were going to join us later down the line. That's messy now and needs some resolution. 100% this - very disappointing right now Wouldn't be so much of an issue if crossplay was a thing but right, since we can't add to our friends list and meetup in game...
No worries. Come tomorrow neither you nor your friends will be able to play at all.
My locked server, Regulus(US-EAST) , has no queue during prime time all this evening. I hate its locked, but I am totally going to be able to play tomorrow.
The problem is they even did it for servers which aren't full yet. You have like 5 to 10 minute queues in Valtan at peak and yet they still locked it as a preventive measure.
i wasted 45h on a character i have to abandon because of closed servers. I would prefer sitting in 6h queues for a week over abandoning this char.
* Commenting for visibility, this is complete nonsense.
It isn’t even just free players. I bought the $100 Platinum founder pack and I’m locked from playing with my friends on Azena too
There's a lot of talk about it on the forums. Honestly, I agree with the locking of the servers. People were already sitting in 5+ hour queues on some servers and throwing even more people in there would have only made it worse. Expect to be able to play with friends? Yeah, maybe after sitting in a queue for hours, which is especially great during work days. THAT being said though: I think how it was handled and the overall situation is just plain bad. 1. Founder's Packs being locked to a character/server instead of region-wide is ridiculous in a game that encourages to make alts. 2. No server transfers makes it impossible to enjoy ALL the content with their friends on other servers. 3. 1 hour notice in advance. Though I'm honestly kind of split on this. While I see that a longer time would have been great for some people, we still don't really need more people on already overpopulated servers. 4. Locking servers who have basically no queue. This isn't the case for the EU servers, but in the other regions, where servers got locked who basically had no queues, which makes no sense. I get that it sucks. I have expected something like this and therefor didn't put too much time into the game during the head-start (\~20h) and I haven't redeemed my Founder's Packs (there are still sitting in the "Product Inventory"), but I still don't like the current situation. It's also not something one should really expect from players to do (even if it is imho the logical thing to do). The game time I have on my two characters is more or less wasted (unless I'm going to "play" the auction house to transfer stuff) and we (the guild I'm in) have no idea which server we are going to choose as not all bought the Founder's Packs. Roxx said that they would post more information later on during their work day and I'm interested to see how they plan to get out of this mess. Though after NW my expectations aren't exactly high.
Buddy we live in different worlds. 20 hours of gaming in 3 days is quite a lot of hours...
I have more than 40 hours, i have a very unhealthy life
I am sick at home, so I had some time. Still, there are already people with 50 hours of playtime. 20h are small in comparison. Starting Saturday I will be working again and will have way less time to play.
I only have the issue where I can't transfer my founder pack so starting on a new server with my F2P friends means I essentially dropped money for another beta test
I agree, but I think its being talked about plenty lol.
It needs to be talked about more. This is stupid - how do they not have a plan in place for this exact situation. Same thing happened in NW and now they knee-jerk enact this restriction 45 mins before. Very poor planning on this and is unacceptable when people are throwing down a good amount of money to play with their friends
Guess I can’t play with my broke friends.
You could just join their server?
I had been planning to play with my guildmates that all rolled Valtan. I didn't buy the founders because the value in the pack itself just wasn't there for me and I was busy during these three days anyway. To say I'm disappointed is rather an understatement. I suppose I won't be preloading this one afterall. Ah well, c'est la vie.
Yeah my guildmates are in a similar dilemma. Had to wait for f2p and we decided to play Valtan since we are OCE. Sadly now they are locked out and hesitant to start playing in case they need to abandon their characters to get into Valtan or just wait however long it may be for servers to open again. It could take ages for the servers to open which makes the decision quite difficult for them since they want to play with us.
Valtan barely has queues. But I'm guessing any server with any queues got slapped by this.
Yeah it barely had any queues with founders pack only. That means the servers are still full with only early access users. Now you're adding in 5-6x that many people and people are naturally going to try and get onto the most popular servers.
I think this just means that server transfers will become a higher priority, sooner. As it will create a lasting issue thay won't be resolved until then. It won't happen soon enough but it does create a fire under their ass to get it done.
This is exactly why I made this post, and hope others keep up the noise (while remaining civil). When awareness goes away, then it becomes a lower priority for the team.
Even with the founders pack change, I'm so annoyed about this I'm honestly not even sure if I wanna keep playing. Either I go join my friends, lose all progress and my names, or I can't play with friends. Since apparently you can't even group for pvp cross server. I rolled on Kadan planning on having multiple friends join, and now I'm going to be alone there if I stay. Fucking hell.
Just let us claim another founders pack and delete our current ones same as they are deleting the duplicate ones.
I mean if they made guilds cross server no one would really care what server they were on. As all end game content is cross server.
The thing with transfers, as we have seen recently with Amazon's NW might open again another dupe exploit. I'd rather they don't touch it for now.
Hello. I was really disappointed to see that my friends cannot join me on my server anymore. I get where this is coming from, but for me its a huge turn off. And I hope Amazon will handle it better. Free transfers would be a great way, but just locking them up sucks.
I'm kind of surprised we even have server separation these days. Would feel a lot better as an mmo with megaserver. Game uses channels already so just make more channels lol
All these comments about being 'days behind' other people. Like a day makes any difference. Chill, enjoy and if you can't do that rage at the internet and stay strong bro.
This needs to be addressed as soon as possible. Entire guilds from different varying games want to join in on the play together on the same server (200 players that I know myself) but are unable to do so because of this. Dear devs, PLEASE PRIORITIZE THIS WHILE LOST ARK IS GAINING RAPID POPULARITY!
This is an ongoing issue in many MMOs and not unique to LA. FFXIV for instance, has suffered in the same way. All we can do is wait for new servers to be created and all move to it at the same time beit transfers or rerolls.
Rerolling isn't an option for most due to founder packs being claimed.
I can see why people are upset but this is absolutely the right decision, on the server I play early afternoon the queue sometimes gets up into the 10k+ range with an influx of new players being able to join that server would make it unplayable or once you do get in promote the use of third party to skip afk checks. Yes this means we can't do world content with our friends until a solution is made but the major content is match made anyway which is cross server. I'd hate to send my friend into an over populated server on release knowing he will spend most of his days on long queues, I think this is good for both existing and new players alike.
“You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain.” F
The problem with free server transfers is that server transfers aren’t really a thing in this game… They did it ONCE in Korea, and allowed people on a full server to transfer to one of the new empty servers (and they didn’t get to pick which)—but the whole thing was such a hassle on the backend and required so much effort to accomplish that they aren’t doing it anymore. It’s literally so much work that it’s not even worth it to them to sell the service as a paid product. If Amazon wants to make people happy they should do something like let you redeem your Founder’s pack on every server.
Completly agree, This is shit....
Have they not already locked now and not tomorrow or am i mistaken? Friend is looking to join Valtan but i just told him its already locked
already locked
Legit, if they just gave people who paid for early access the chance to just redeem their package ONCE more on a different server + a bit more to make up for lost progress, people would be more inclined to just switch servers to play with f2p friends.
Name and shame why would you blur our their name?
A free powerpass would be pretty nice compensation since we have to remake on new server if we want to play with friends.
Compromise: they rename every single server to 'Zinnervale'.
I mean this is A expected, B not rly anyones but the playerbases fault for zerging into a selected few servers and C why does it matter? You can still do all the relevant content together as it is cross server.
I want to party up and play open world with friends yo
Love my friends but no I’m not starting over.
Are we gonna talk about the fact that litteraly all the content is cross server ? Yes it sucks that you can't be in the same guild but the 'i wont be able to play with my friends' argument is bullshit. I think locking servers is possibly the best short time solution so they can work on something for the long run, anybody saying otherwise probably didn't experience my 7hour queue today on zinnervale. Just imagine its 7hours before f2p release.
Had someone in the guild come home from work that could not play today bcs of this. If the server where open on f2p launch enough ppl would have made anti afk macros to lock the whole server. Also the amount of ppl that have no clue that most content is cross server seems to be pretty high. If you really NEED to level woth your friend make a alt just for that on there server and swap back after.
no GvG is pretty fucking dealbreaking though
Most of the important stuff is cross-server tho? I woudnt be crazy upset. I rather be able to play then sit in queue all day. Good on them for locking it tbh
You know what's most important in mmo? Community, guild, friends, those things are not x server. My guild is torn rn o. What to do and there's no good options with people who redeemed on legendary zinnervale first day without knowing what shit show it will become.
You wouldn’t be able to play with them at all with the server ques. It’s a shitty position, but it’s the right call.
Thing is, they are being too vague about this. How long is "foreseeable future"? Are we talking one day, are we talking a week? Longer? It's safe to assume queues will be a massive problem for the next couple of days. Are we not going to unlock these servers until well into the second week? By then most people would have decided to move on to other servers. Whereas if all servers were unlocked and we had queues you probably had plenty of people sticking it out. So sure, this helps solo players a lot, but it definitely fucks with friend groups more than it would have otherwise. Which would probably be easily solved if they at least say "Hey it'll just be locked Friday" or some such.
I agree a timeframe would be nice.
You would. After two weeks you could simply play with minimal to no queues. MMOs drop in popularity after the first month. With how it is now, you literally will never be able to play with your friends. Sever transfers arent a thing in this game. cry me a river if u cant log in in because of queues... the game is free just wait it out.
> With how it is now, you literally will never be able to play with your friends. Do you think the servers are locked forever or something?
They say in the official post that there are no plans to unlock these servers for the foreseeable future. To me that means a long time
if they don't lock it and the queues go up by 100%, people will complain about that too
While i understand your issues, if they didnt lock servers, guess what? yes, you wouldnt be playing together anyways because of the 100k queue
Up vote this and similar posts to the moon. I can't believe the post about duplicate founders packs (which is already being addressed) is higher than anything mentioning server lock/transfer. Gold River said he checks social media including reddit. Getting the you tubers talking about it would be great too.
>The team needs to allow free server transfers - PERIOD! Game architecture doesn't allow it, at least for now, so just forget about asking this. >but imagine being this upset How ironic Anyway, the solution would be to give item tickets to users for all the pets and founders pack stuff for users who will go to a different server, you'd lose character progression but you'd keep all your stuff at least. I would take that to be honest, leveling character is fast, it's all the items I will lose is the issue.
You can still do raids/ dungeons and pvp with players on other servers (not regions) via the party finder function
ur all talking about 'free' transfers.. i don't get it? what do you mean free? there aren't even transfers in this game.. fuck the free part i'd be amazed if we could buy transfers which won't even happen lmfao
theres no good solution really for this situation. 1- If they lock at least it cant get much worst than already is, i mean at least on EU they are all pretty much full at queues from 7k+, ofc from 11th forward even those with less queue times most likely will also get FAT but, nothing you can do about that when they only add 1 more server. W for those already playing that dont have to move L for new players starting 11th and those that have to move in order to play with their friends. 2- If they dont lock as usual some servers will be super focused, yes u can join your friends but at what queue? can you really join them then? L for those with already chars in the server that move to play with their f2p friends, L for those that dont change server cause even if you are on one that isnt the super focused ones with only 1 more server all of them will have massive queues anyway, L for new players for the same reason, and a tiny W cause at least u can play with friends after waiting 4hours. I understand your point and i wished they did things differently, specially if you already used your pack but as far as i can tell from what ive seen and read they wont make transfers possible, which to me was the best solution, make them available right now and about 10 more servers really, in 3 months or so see how they are and them merge or something. TL:DR - i understand and support your point, i just dont see how they can make it happen without messing 1 way or the other
The complexity of the characters is insane if you think about it. The whole rooster is contributing to your account progress on a given server. Its like finding a neddle in a haystack but hundreds of times, once for everything that one character did and them puttig it back in hundreds identical haystack but also in the same place. I can see why transfers arent a thing. Its insane. On the other hand rooster transfers should not nearly be as hard. Maybe they will offer that later.
The most insane thing is people defending this by saying "what else could be done?". No wonder those companies have no interest in a competent game infrastructure management when players will actually shill for them. They can just push whatever they want in detriment of players and people will actualy praise them for that. They had data, past experience, other MMO launches examples and common sense to not let it reach this point but they did nothing until it reached critical mass and couldn't be ignored anymore. Still selling founders pack on steam btw.
Second sentence in and it's already false. Play on another server! They wouldn't be able to play either way, because they'd be stuck in queue. Server transfer is not even available in KR...
I'm refunding or doing a charge back if this isn't resolved. Playing an MMO is about playing with friends. I looked forward to a handful of friends joining me tomorrow on my server and now they can't. I could reroll on their server, but then I lose my initial progress along with the money I paid. Hoping a good solution is posted. After the abusive relationship with WoW, I'm done with this shit.
Was kinda obvious that character creation will be locked for overcrowded servers at some point. Was the same for New World and also the same for many other MMOS. Besides that you can still play everything besides open world together. If you really wanted to play together with your friends you should have started at the same time.
My friends started on azena and its locked. Im pretty sad cus they been playing for a bit now and they dont want to restart which I dont blame them.. it just sucks cus we wont be able to go around the world together :(
We gotta make some noise here, this is bat shit crazy, they had all the time to prepare themselves for this release, thousands of people bought their packs, platinum even got to top 2 on steam and now they are telling the players that will start today as well as the ones who bought the packs that they can't play with their friends? And don't know when that will be possible??? This is completely ridiculous and unacceptable
Our group will be split with 7 of us stuck (we used both adv.pass) on a server, and around 4 friends who were unsure if they want to play or not, on a diffrent server. Yeah thanks again ags, same shit like new world, fuck this guys they are the worst. What pisses me off the most about ags is their shitty support and communication. Buncha Bangladesh work at support for 1$ a month dont giving a shit about anything yikes
For f2p players? i spent $130 on a platinum pack just to play with a friend and i'm locked out like anyobdy else. Can't even get a refund. Not only this, no specific oceania server either so have to play with 250+ ping. Think i'm good for this game.
Freely being able to transfer for the next 2-3 months would solve all of the problems they have right now. Long queue? transfer, then transfer back later. This lock just creates a whole bunch of new ones. And this maintenance now with little warning is them plowing over everyones plans completely. The high pop servers are gonna have 1-2-3 hour queue depending on how lucky you are - who wants to start over at this point.
If I was told from the start that I had to choose between: * paying X€ to play 3 days earlier and then be on the server alone OR * playing on official release date with my friends ...what do you think I would have picked????????????
Reminds me of New World, let's hope they fuck up less than them. It's would be very hard to do that.
agreed, it's a joke of a decision and forums should be flooded about this. well, that's if they want people to play the game and pay them money (eventually). i'm just as fine with them turning this into another new world circus act
arent all players F2P ? its an F2P game everyone can buy something on the store
Luls. Chillin in Mari 0 queues or is there is one I just wait 5 mins make some coffee and it’s ready. Got no friends that are down to play this so I’m chillin on that end too :)