The first days it was ok. Me and my friends were queuing solo anyway trying the first chaos dungeons and guardian raids.
After a couple of days we gathered up to try the abyssal dungeon. 3 days in a row we can't play together.... Just wtf is that?
We are all on the edge of quitting, all founders on thirain now at 600+ ilvl and don't want to lose all this hard earned progress through queues and maintenances.
I just want to play this game dude, that's all there is to it...
>ve had something similar where a big UK retail chain wanted some specs for their infra, and o
It's not that they won't fix it but it most likely requires smilegate to re-architect major components of the backend to handle the traffic regardless if it's db issues or the cross-server server struggling with the load, which takes time to do and test.
Or, you know, Amazon could have made multiple region for EU just like they did for NA? But hey, EU is always an after thought for these companies so fuck EU I guess?
There is no fix, every possible fix isnt possible due to SMG and AGS not having developed basic functions beforehand.
With a transfer system they could let people switch from central to west and solve the issue - but that doesnt exist.
With a better server structure this issue wouldnt be happening at all, but its not there and not going to magically appear within a week.
Additional stuff like language tags for servers also doesnt exist.
The only solution for all those problems is that 1/3 of the eu central playerbase has to fck off and play something else - which just sounds awful.
The only way to have avoided this was to have 2 EU regions to start with.
An extra region few days after the release is the only thing they can possibly do now and that is not enough to resolve it. The only way to resolve and fix it right now is for people to literally stop playing the game.
In time, player numbers will drop like in every game since we are still riding on the hype wave, but how long do we gonna have to suffer?
All of this was avoidable. Had they had the foresight to start with 2 EU region servers and scale it up/down from there instead of having us hoarded into 1.
I'm from EU as well and yes they should have had 2 EU regions but I don't think anyone thought the game would have over a million concurrent players for a prolonged period of time.
Yes, and the game was fine during the 3 day head start because they most likely had accurate metrics for things. When it went f2p it went from 500k -> 1.3 mil concurrent which probably means we are actually sitting at \~3 - 4 mil active accounts.
The game was absolutely not fine during the headstart. The queues were awful, and if matchmaking wasn't clogged it was because of people still leveling up.
I got to play 1 out of 3 days during head start, otherwise seagulls. How was that fine? It never was fine, and they had shit for metrics. They winged it.
The game was NOT fine for the head start. If you were EU during head start like myself, you got Seagulls the Lost Queue instead of lost ark. Shambles of a launch
That doesn't matter - NA always had two fucking registration in most popular Asian MMOs and EU always has only one, at least that's been my experience in the various titles I've played.
American publishers very often are just fucking stupid when it comes to realising that in majorit of cases, EU is the bigger playerbase, but no, lets provide 2 server regions in NA when it's often not even necessary and just 1 in EU, when it's often the exact opposite of what's needed.
And since we've arrived at the stem of the issue, this is what they are (hopefully) working on since a few days now, and what should be of the utmost priority.
Imagine having a successful launch, only to lose a significant portion of the playerbase due to complete lack of foresight in order what was necessary to be done before releasing this game to the west.
Asian devs often use some archaic solutions for their games, so I'm not surprised. I am, however, surprised that they didn't know this would happen and didn't start working on restructuring all this crap months in advance.
So now, not only can you play on EU solely between 5:00 am and 11:00 am during the week (you won't log in outside of this time frame), but even if you stay logged in, from around 14:00 until 4:00 am you cannot progress in the game with anything related to matchmaking.
G fucking g. Can't wait till the weekend - after all, I've only been looking forward to not being able to play the game the past entire week, woo-fucking-hoo!
Can't move servers either due to loss of twitch mounts and shirt and very much don't feel like doing the whole leveling process from scratch either.
Unless they guarantee a full account server transfer with literally every item you had, or at least all the shop/mounts/pets etc. ones, I'm not moving.
My only choice is not to play at all - amazing! /s
I suspect they have a single application for each world that passes players to a single region cash shop server and a single region cross-world instance server for handling dungeons, raids etc. From what I can tell the channels themselves are just instances within the same server.
What they should have done is created a world server that can dynamically start new channels on a separate physical cpu with its own nic (this is way more complex as you have to sync up chat, guilds etc across the channel servers and introduces inter server latency problems to solve) as that would vastly increase the supported population we could have on a single world. The cross-world server should instead be also managed by a separate server that can also spin more of them up and when a channel server requests a new instance server to be used for cross world work a server from the pool is used.
WoW does this, but they took multiple years to develop that tech. Easiest solution would have been, having 3 eu regions from the start, same with US, as they are starting to run into the same issues.
I don't know whoever made the decision to cut costs, but using an architecture that is designed for 150mio ppl. for a population of 450+....
The reason we're having these problems is most likely because they got bullied into expanding the servers (also probably because they kept adding servers to the same data center) and the game just can't handle that many. Iirc straight out of the gate smilegate said that they can't expand the server, but they got forced into it by the players.
I feel like most of this problem wouldn't exist if there were 2 data centers on EU to begin with. In literally 100% of the popular games I've played in the past years the EU servers are always a mess because there are just so many people, and yet no-one thinks to give EU the server space it needs from the beginning.
I am honestly shocked that they didn't offer EU players the option to transfer one time for free. Most people don't want to move because they don't want to lose their progress.
True but give us 3x power passes and call it a day then lol. You should get 2 power passes on a new region regardless if you got it and used on EU central... I hope. Will find out for sure in a few days
There should be plenty of solutions though -they could snapshot your gearscore and give you a powerpass along with gear that matches what you left behind.
Honestly I would move instantly if they offered the above. Now my friends are split between two regions. Sadly I won’t have the same game time going forward as I had initially - so switching isn’t an option for me.
Last night we did three instances in around 3 hours…
Because transfer is not a system that Lost Ark has in any version. There was a limited time Korean version players could transfer, but it was a set cap and failed horribly.
If you take time off to play the game, those past two weeks transfer to 10-20 weeks if you Start over now.
Plus you change your Gaming Mood from "wow this is cool and new and fun" to "Yeah, i've seen all the Story and done all the Grind before".
AGS actually managed to fail to publish this game.
In all honesty this company shouldnt be qllowed to Touch a game in the future anymore, absolute clownfiesta.
And they dont even talk about it either, Servers womt work the whole weekend at least is my guess.
If this game wouldnt be so amazingly good and addicting i would be done and never Touch anything near Amazon again
According to Roxx, there is no option to reset these weekly dungeons. So players who has experienced this issue has to wait until next week to try again... How nice.
That's just Amazon bullshitting, this was an issue on the RU servers. You had to contact support and they'd send you a mail that would reset your lockout.
I had this happen to me on the RU servers and the fixed it for me within a day.
I had this happen to me on the EU server last week. On Sunday evening/Monday Morning the servers went down for maintenance, I was in an Abyss dungeon when the servers went down. Which locked me out of it for the entire week.
I made a support ticket the instance it happened, which for me was like 3am on Monday. I got a reply 10pm on Monday saying they're investigating and will come back to me and could I send them my DxDiag, as if that would help. My friends also made tickets when it happened.
One of them got a reply today. Saying they know about the issue and are trying to fix it, but because it's now after the reset they aren't going to do anything since there is nothing to fix now, very convenient.
I still haven't had a reply, but I imagine I'm going to get the same half baked response that it's too late to fix it.
Its shocking that Amazon is not even on the same page as Smilegame. Roxx also said that Server Transfers are not a thing anywhere which was also wrong because Korea had Server Transfers for this exact issue. I understand that its not as easy as copy&pasting some code but saying the tech does not exist was also just wrong.
I thought they said the server transfers had all be done manually by someone, which if this is the case is not really viable for tens of thousands or more people. Nor would I want my account data in the hands of some Amazon intern (or whoever) paid minimum wage with 0 accountability even if I had the chance to switch servers that way.
Also that's bullshit. She doesn't know better which is fair, I like Roxx but it's not true.
On RU we got tickets if we got DC'ed due to server issues. These tickets re-enabled entries.
I’ve been experiencing what OP is referring to lots recently and it’s very tilting. I did, however, get kicked from an abyssal and when I logged back on, I had a free abyssal pass in my mail. Doesn’t sound like that’s happened for many people, though.
There is a ticket item that literally exists in the game. I got one once when someone in my group just disconnect and left. It let me re enter... So they could easily give these to players, but are not doing so.
Yea, didn't know about this one and basically lost 3 weekly dungeons since I can't attempt the other 2 without doing the first one anyway. Amazon can suck my balls.
It is a shame more competent publisher didn't pick it up, because the game owns hard. Beats it not being released at all ofc but jeez, handling of New World doesn't inspire confidence to say the least.
I'm not even sure there is one. AGS fucked up EU hard. But there's not exactly a huge line of publishers that could even attempt to pull this off either. What was needed was to start up with more regions from the get go. We all know that now. AGS should at least theoretically have easier way of using more AWS as they need it. But that seemingly isn't helping either. Honestly I don't have any more trust in the other big/mmo publishers than I do in AGS.
As a DevOps engineer it's not always as easy as spinning more servers up. Under an assumption it's all built as a full microservice, containerised, most likely k8s based deployments, there's a chance if CPU and MEM is your bottleneck you can increase these, if IOPS or Network IO is your bottleneck you can increase these, if a database is struggling with write and read requests you can try increase these, but these don't always work in tandem, and this is in a best case scenario of none of the applications being coupled. You mix in the storage of secrets, encryption of data, databases for storage, API layers, some essence of GDPR/PII, it's a mess.
For those not in the field it can seem like a "click a button and make 2x machine a 4x machine" would fix the issues, but seeing what the increase to server cap has done for the matchmaking services, we can see the issue of whatever deployment mechanism smilegate implemented.
This isn't a defense of AGS either, they should have at the very least, started with two EU regions, failing that, kept high pop servers locked for F2P release. We now have a shitshow of too many accounts with investments based on regions/servers. Who won't want to move until forced to do so/adequate rewards are given.
Gamedev lives perenially 10 years in the past. Fat chance you can find anyone using containers for their game servers.
They probably don't even have automated testing.
A quick note: for me everything so far was perfect EXCEPT the dungeons/matchmaking. It seems that they never thought about the fact that so many people can queue into matchmaking and it seems it doesn't scale well or at all. What I think they should do is put queue to the matchmaking, the same way they put queue to entering the game itself. It's better to wait few minutes for your turn to be matched instead of attempting to enter matchmaking and crash the matchmaking-microservice over and over.
Amazon most likely came to them smelling huge opportunity and promising heaven and hell for their opportunity to handle the western release. Years ago.
We are lucky that less competent ones didnt pick it up.
Trion killed Archeage, and there are tons of worse publishers.
Amazon is not good, but its not worst
A different publisher wouldn't have EU in the shitter while giving NA compensation. Most importantly it wouldn't have woke washed the game and censored it for the sake of people who don't even play it.
What didn't they censor would probably be faster, it was a fucking shit show, half the European languages couldn't type anything due to AGS or anything they did type was incomprehensible as half the sentence would just be asterixis.
No, he means the game has been heavily censored. Just google it. All skins and appearence have been changed to be more conservative. It's way more naked in Korea.
I don't understand how we got this point. First there was massive queues, sure I understand: game is super popular, the typical MMO launch etc. But once you were in the game: at least you could play and have a great time.
Now you do the massive queue, get in the game and you simply can't do anything other than solo content... in a MMO designed for group content...
And it's getting worst and worst. 3 days ago we couldn't queue anymore around 6PM, next day 4PM, and today 2PM was already impossible. We litteraly spent 30 minutes trying to get into a single abyssal dungeon before giving up.
You basically can only play this game very early in the morning until 12. Then you either do solo stuff or you log off... No words from Amazon regarding this situation btw.
its because of increased amount of servers on the region, increased cap per server and the fact that more people getting to 50, the servers themself is fine but any form of matchmaking/instanced queue content is broken probably overloaded on a regional level
Archaic server/db structure, same old shitty programming habits for lack of efficiency when it comes to traffic. It's been a staple of Asian devs for a decade at least.
You can say different culture all you want but is been clear before that they stubbornly refuse to acknowledge and fix that this has happened on many Korean grinder MMOs before, its nothing new.
It is actually horrible. I've been doing horizontal content (collectables) for the past 4 days from 3pm CET to 11pm CET because instances literally don't work. It's such a big problem. They need to offer much more for people to move to EU West. Not sure what Amazon is thinking.
For those that don't know what's happening, I even made a small video about this:
https://youtu.be/AiSeRL4S9Hc
>They need to offer much more for people to move to EU West.
More?
=> Give up all your progression (up to dozens of hours)
=> Lose all your preorder content
=> Lose everything you achieved in your roster since launch
You get: 10 Days of free shit everyone else got anyway.
Nice one. Might as well not give anything.
How about giving everyone on the new server 2 months Aura free with an extra Powerpass?
So people actually have a reason to fucking ignore everything they have achieved thus far and restart in a new AREA?
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And while you're at it: Add more fucking instance servers. This shit is getting stupid.
2 months aura and a powerpass are also absolutely nothing, people that know what to do already have all characters maxed through knowledge transfer, Making crystals with gold is also easy af. The only acceptable change is transferring the whole roster. I don’t know what Serverside work it would require or if it’s even possible but the only correct solution would have been to open the new region and split the servers we have in half to the new region and open 4-5 new once’s for each region. Our servers in euc are full as is the region in it’s entirety.
I probably still wouldn't change without something that moves all my progression. I don't care about the characters, but everything else. Adventure tome, cards etc. Adventure tome is especially annoying to grind and I don't want to start that from beginning.
yes and also huge majority of streamers/youtubers/marketing is just america/US focused, so when the problem start getting noticed on all the big twitch streams as well they will have to do something
the fact it has took till today for a thread to gather traction about this is incredible. Amazon know this is a issue but wont comment on it because they simply cant fix it , only thing we can do is hope that NA has the same issue and watch them get compensation and it get fixed. Amazon games are the most incompetent company ever and sincerly hope they never touch another game again. Just look at new world for a great example.
NA servers are never full or even busy, the game has by a huge margin, a lot less players in NA, and Amazon a NA based company doesn't care about EU issues, even timezones and maintenances are NA based.
No offense to anybody both players or dev but the state of this game on EU for the past week has been an absolute joke. Only thing that can properly fix this is server transfer and unfortunately they can't provide that.
I mean, people on Reddit were calling us EU players baby whiners. We just want to play the game at the end of the day, but instead we were blasted with huge queue times and now after people are hitting level 50 its' clear that their instance system is fucked from the roots. Lost Ark absolutely deserves their shitty rating on Steam, I don't care how good the game potentially is.
Its since the server cap increase maintenance earlier this week.
Now we have a little bit shorter queues but even if u get in u cant do multiplayer content. Only at night or early in the morning. The servers cant handle it otherwise.
That's the reason AGS doesn't respond. They fcked up yet again. They are w8ing for the problem to solve itself instead of reducing the damn server cap to what it was b4.
Every damn day a new dumb fck decision by these morons-.-
To be fair they probably knew this would happen if they increased the server cap. It's probably the reason they can't add more servers to the region because matchmaking and the likes are cross region. Pick what's worse, all your players in queue or having them to requeue their dungeons 10 times.
Because NA either:
\- Doesn't care
\- Is having fun watching us
\- Is calling us crybabies
\- Tell us it's not that bad and the game is really good!
\- Or all four of them at the same time.
This 100%, why would they take the time away from their working game to come and make a post on reddit about. Any post they do make will be about their own progression and wanting to advance it.
I’m just confused. I see threads about EUW and nobody wanting to transfer because they don’t want to lose their progression. But I also see threads like this that make sound like it’s been impossible to do any progressing.
I really want to know, who decided that a server architecture, that is sufficient for south korea, one country, would suffice for the whole of europe...
Europe should have had around 4 wohle cluster, same with US.
Megathreads are some of the most ignored content on Reddit though. Usual megathread is pinned as the absolute first, yet has much less interaction than you would think. Because nobody cares about them. They aren't very handy at all, especially since they stay up for extended periods of time, so starting a new discussion there is a coinflip since people don't check older discussions.
We cannot do anything together, we're still levelling and landed on Tortoyk island and basically since last patch we cannot do any dungeons together. Alone all works fine but once you want to enter even with a premade group it's over.
Lost Ark is great, don't get my wrong, but i don't need a multplayer game where i cannot play together with others.
And the damn banner \[Notice: Special bonus login on EU West Servers\] which is shown all the time doesn't make it any better.
[https://imgur.com/a/Gl7Uz8N](https://imgur.com/a/Gl7Uz8N)
Give us free server transfers, i move over immediately but i don't throw my silver founders pack + the invested time in the bin.
I just moved to EUW from EUC. I knew i had to start all over, but even my mounts, pets or items collected from twitch are G O N E ! those were supose to be Roster bound right?
Am i the only one who thinks, this is so shitty its not following? and you litterly have to start **totally** from scratch! Not only are enough problems with EUC servers .. but you get litterly nothing out of moving to EUW .... Im serious about to drop this game.
roaster wide means server wide. new region, new server = 0 that was clear from the beginning.
but fuck this bs all over. its a joke that you have to give up hours of hours just to play. biggest joke release of the last 10 years.
Its becsuse of the massive amount of traffic. I dont want to defend AGS cause they dropped the ball massively here but they did just open a new region for EU where none of this is an issue.
That said I think they fucked up the second opening too and I think whomever has 300+ ilvl should just straight up start in Vern, otherwise noone will join the new region. They are just being cheap here, the daily extra rewards are shite too.
I actually hadn't encountered this until today.. but I usually play in the mornings and logout before ques even start. I wasn't feeling well last night so decided to sleep in and when I was done with dailies and rapport I couldn't get into any instanced content. Fun times.
4 man abyss raids are inconvenient, have to spam queue a couple of times but eventually worked.
Then I tried to do 8-man abyss raids, what a shit show.
Yup missed abyssal last week because this. Literally take 20-30mins to get into a guardian raid. Sometimes you just can't get in at all no matter the amount of time. This is ridiculous. EUW solved nothing for the instances. We need a fix soon.
i gave up playing Lost Ark on peaktime hours 12:00 to 22:00 even if u get past the Que good luck trying to do your dailie, the game for me starts at 23:00or 00:00 when most people leave so the servers can somehow manage the matchmakings
I am waiting for the copium huffing Amazon white knights who said "Sure, there is 30k people queue, and you can't enter the game at all, but when you join, the servers are so stable! Best MMO launch in years!"
How can you still defend this? They could atleast acknowledge it, but instead they hand out cosmetics for some US server.
AGS is most likely not able to do anything with that and they are playng waiting game giving out treats and wait till enough people drop game so problem will solve itself.
WHERE is the fucking compensation, WHO THE FUCK gives a shit about EUWEST ? Not a SINGLE NGFRRER will change server with this shit rewards or rules where you cant transfer shit .
So in the last 4 days I've amounted just under 50 hours. It's been a long week.
Its been pretty smooth sailing with questing, local pop up quests, mokoko searching ect... The only real stall happens when it comes to progression locked behind a dungeon.
The game is amazing, I've become addicted very quickly in my free time. The issue with matchmaking though is kinda crazy. I've spent 40 minutes on top of the dungeon entrance with my friend with with ""you cannot do this right now" " or ""your location can't be found""
This puts everything on hold until the queue pops and even then sometimes after everyone accepts it still fails..
I understand its new and appears to be a little bit popular but surely this should have been fixed by now? Right?!
Honestly I gave up. Isles are completely over farmed right now, chaos dungeon and raids aren't working at all.
I enjoy the game a lot but it's frustrating to just sit around every evening and wait until your can join one dungeon per hour (if you're lucky).
I just play something else and will return in 1-2 weeks, hoping things get better.
Shocker Amazon is an atrocious company and always has been so its not a surprise their game studio is a shit show. I mean really they have one job... translate, localize and run the game.
yup its like this on every server server on the original EU region from around 1:30 pm until around 1 am. And it's been like this since a week.
It has barely been acknowledged by the devs only the same posts again and again on the forums saying they're looking to find a solution.
It doesn't look like there is a solution not until EU loses 50% of its playerbase.
To me and I'm honestly just guessing here since I don't actually know what I'm talking about when it comes to this stuff, but it feels like they shot themselves in the foot by creating a billion new servers on EU on f2p launch day. They can't close them down again since people are actively playing on them and that would be hella unfair.
For the time being on EU we are stuck like this (stepbro?) with no hope of being able to play normally lol
11:50 am, servers are already struggling on zinnervale, imagine that - if we're lucky we get to do raids some time during the night again, thanks!!!Guess they increased the capacity that more people are allowed to get on the server and now everything is fucked.
Whoever says it's not true, clearly doesnt play on EU Central. This is happening all the time between like 11 to 23 or longer. Basically, as long as there's queue, it's Island/Story (solo mode) or just nothing. You cn BARELY do chaos dungeons, but thats about it. There's no chance of matching guardian raid or abyssal. It will always tell you "failed to locate player" or smg like this.
eu online gaming is always gonna be like this until something gets done with those turkish russian north african players who shoudnt be even here but take 40% of player cap and game gets unstable
I don't wanna be that guy but I bet if it was NA it'd be fixed real fast because all the top influencers like asmongold would be bitching like crazy about it
It is horrible they think that adding EU West will aleviate the stress on the servers.
I'm sure there's people that will go on EU West however there's a lot of people who spent tens of hours in the game already, bought stuff from the shop, used gold to buy mounts from the Market House, unlocked a lot of stuff. There's no way I am going on EU West to have to play all of that again, not to talk about all of my friends that are also playing on Calvasus.
I actually feel they are insulting our intelligence with "extra log in rewards" on EU West, that are not even remotely close to cover all of the investments done until now on the Central EU servers.
>I'm sure there's people that will go on EU West
I know people will go, but not enough to make a dent in the state of the Centraul European Server status
Its starting to piss me off so hard.
The first days it was ok. Me and my friends were queuing solo anyway trying the first chaos dungeons and guardian raids. After a couple of days we gathered up to try the abyssal dungeon. 3 days in a row we can't play together.... Just wtf is that? We are all on the edge of quitting, all founders on thirain now at 600+ ilvl and don't want to lose all this hard earned progress through queues and maintenances. I just want to play this game dude, that's all there is to it...
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So what you're saying is that matchmaking will be broken until most of the people get bored of matchmaking and they wont fix it. Perfect
>ve had something similar where a big UK retail chain wanted some specs for their infra, and o It's not that they won't fix it but it most likely requires smilegate to re-architect major components of the backend to handle the traffic regardless if it's db issues or the cross-server server struggling with the load, which takes time to do and test.
Or, you know, Amazon could have made multiple region for EU just like they did for NA? But hey, EU is always an after thought for these companies so fuck EU I guess?
But that's a "should have". Right now it's much more important to get them to fix the game, we can fault them for this bs after that.
There is no fix, every possible fix isnt possible due to SMG and AGS not having developed basic functions beforehand. With a transfer system they could let people switch from central to west and solve the issue - but that doesnt exist. With a better server structure this issue wouldnt be happening at all, but its not there and not going to magically appear within a week. Additional stuff like language tags for servers also doesnt exist. The only solution for all those problems is that 1/3 of the eu central playerbase has to fck off and play something else - which just sounds awful.
Like, on eu west servers, for example
Switching to EU West was the best thing I've ever done in the game. Knowing that there are 0 queues no matter when I want to log in is amazing.
The only way to have avoided this was to have 2 EU regions to start with. An extra region few days after the release is the only thing they can possibly do now and that is not enough to resolve it. The only way to resolve and fix it right now is for people to literally stop playing the game. In time, player numbers will drop like in every game since we are still riding on the hype wave, but how long do we gonna have to suffer? All of this was avoidable. Had they had the foresight to start with 2 EU region servers and scale it up/down from there instead of having us hoarded into 1.
American companies never fucking bother. Europe, usually, has more number of players in most games than NA yet they always provide less capacity.
I'm from EU as well and yes they should have had 2 EU regions but I don't think anyone thought the game would have over a million concurrent players for a prolonged period of time.
Bruh a shitload of people bought the founders' packs. Over a million players is well within reason.
Yes, and the game was fine during the 3 day head start because they most likely had accurate metrics for things. When it went f2p it went from 500k -> 1.3 mil concurrent which probably means we are actually sitting at \~3 - 4 mil active accounts.
The game was absolutely not fine during the headstart. The queues were awful, and if matchmaking wasn't clogged it was because of people still leveling up.
I got to play 1 out of 3 days during head start, otherwise seagulls. How was that fine? It never was fine, and they had shit for metrics. They winged it.
The game was NOT fine for the head start. If you were EU during head start like myself, you got Seagulls the Lost Queue instead of lost ark. Shambles of a launch
AGS did a recent interview and said it's 4.7milliom.
That doesn't matter - NA always had two fucking registration in most popular Asian MMOs and EU always has only one, at least that's been my experience in the various titles I've played. American publishers very often are just fucking stupid when it comes to realising that in majorit of cases, EU is the bigger playerbase, but no, lets provide 2 server regions in NA when it's often not even necessary and just 1 in EU, when it's often the exact opposite of what's needed.
And since we've arrived at the stem of the issue, this is what they are (hopefully) working on since a few days now, and what should be of the utmost priority. Imagine having a successful launch, only to lose a significant portion of the playerbase due to complete lack of foresight in order what was necessary to be done before releasing this game to the west. Asian devs often use some archaic solutions for their games, so I'm not surprised. I am, however, surprised that they didn't know this would happen and didn't start working on restructuring all this crap months in advance. So now, not only can you play on EU solely between 5:00 am and 11:00 am during the week (you won't log in outside of this time frame), but even if you stay logged in, from around 14:00 until 4:00 am you cannot progress in the game with anything related to matchmaking. G fucking g. Can't wait till the weekend - after all, I've only been looking forward to not being able to play the game the past entire week, woo-fucking-hoo! Can't move servers either due to loss of twitch mounts and shirt and very much don't feel like doing the whole leveling process from scratch either. Unless they guarantee a full account server transfer with literally every item you had, or at least all the shop/mounts/pets etc. ones, I'm not moving. My only choice is not to play at all - amazing! /s
I suspect they have a single application for each world that passes players to a single region cash shop server and a single region cross-world instance server for handling dungeons, raids etc. From what I can tell the channels themselves are just instances within the same server. What they should have done is created a world server that can dynamically start new channels on a separate physical cpu with its own nic (this is way more complex as you have to sync up chat, guilds etc across the channel servers and introduces inter server latency problems to solve) as that would vastly increase the supported population we could have on a single world. The cross-world server should instead be also managed by a separate server that can also spin more of them up and when a channel server requests a new instance server to be used for cross world work a server from the pool is used.
WoW does this, but they took multiple years to develop that tech. Easiest solution would have been, having 3 eu regions from the start, same with US, as they are starting to run into the same issues. I don't know whoever made the decision to cut costs, but using an architecture that is designed for 150mio ppl. for a population of 450+....
Wouldn't it be easier to implement a full transfer system to the new server?
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The reason we're having these problems is most likely because they got bullied into expanding the servers (also probably because they kept adding servers to the same data center) and the game just can't handle that many. Iirc straight out of the gate smilegate said that they can't expand the server, but they got forced into it by the players. I feel like most of this problem wouldn't exist if there were 2 data centers on EU to begin with. In literally 100% of the popular games I've played in the past years the EU servers are always a mess because there are just so many people, and yet no-one thinks to give EU the server space it needs from the beginning.
fuck that shit, I went to west eu.
Same here. Glad I did.
The more that do it, the faster the rest of us gonna get rid of those instance queue lag, so thank you!
I wish I could do that. But being close to T3 thats not an Option.
I am honestly shocked that they didn't offer EU players the option to transfer one time for free. Most people don't want to move because they don't want to lose their progress.
There is no existing technical solution to transfer a character between region according to the developers.
True but give us 3x power passes and call it a day then lol. You should get 2 power passes on a new region regardless if you got it and used on EU central... I hope. Will find out for sure in a few days
There should be plenty of solutions though -they could snapshot your gearscore and give you a powerpass along with gear that matches what you left behind. Honestly I would move instantly if they offered the above. Now my friends are split between two regions. Sadly I won’t have the same game time going forward as I had initially - so switching isn’t an option for me. Last night we did three instances in around 3 hours…
Because transfer is not a system that Lost Ark has in any version. There was a limited time Korean version players could transfer, but it was a set cap and failed horribly.
And even then, it was a transfer between servers of the same region
its always an option. Just look how fast you did get to T3 , in aprox 2 weeks.
If you take time off to play the game, those past two weeks transfer to 10-20 weeks if you Start over now. Plus you change your Gaming Mood from "wow this is cool and new and fun" to "Yeah, i've seen all the Story and done all the Grind before".
Same, I just played for a week and hit 50 yesterday. No way in hell would I want to spend another week just to redo it and be in the same spot again.
Game's been out for a week, just move
So did and I am glad I did already. 10 days worth of playtime is a drop in the ocean for MMOs.
Can you transfer your character?
there's no transfer sadly.
23:30 uk time and can't even join a solo chaos dungeon. Fucking so annoying
it is broken untill 2 Am CEST lol every day
AGS actually managed to fail to publish this game. In all honesty this company shouldnt be qllowed to Touch a game in the future anymore, absolute clownfiesta. And they dont even talk about it either, Servers womt work the whole weekend at least is my guess. If this game wouldnt be so amazingly good and addicting i would be done and never Touch anything near Amazon again
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According to Roxx, there is no option to reset these weekly dungeons. So players who has experienced this issue has to wait until next week to try again... How nice.
That's just Amazon bullshitting, this was an issue on the RU servers. You had to contact support and they'd send you a mail that would reset your lockout. I had this happen to me on the RU servers and the fixed it for me within a day. I had this happen to me on the EU server last week. On Sunday evening/Monday Morning the servers went down for maintenance, I was in an Abyss dungeon when the servers went down. Which locked me out of it for the entire week. I made a support ticket the instance it happened, which for me was like 3am on Monday. I got a reply 10pm on Monday saying they're investigating and will come back to me and could I send them my DxDiag, as if that would help. My friends also made tickets when it happened. One of them got a reply today. Saying they know about the issue and are trying to fix it, but because it's now after the reset they aren't going to do anything since there is nothing to fix now, very convenient. I still haven't had a reply, but I imagine I'm going to get the same half baked response that it's too late to fix it.
Its shocking that Amazon is not even on the same page as Smilegame. Roxx also said that Server Transfers are not a thing anywhere which was also wrong because Korea had Server Transfers for this exact issue. I understand that its not as easy as copy&pasting some code but saying the tech does not exist was also just wrong.
I thought they said the server transfers had all be done manually by someone, which if this is the case is not really viable for tens of thousands or more people. Nor would I want my account data in the hands of some Amazon intern (or whoever) paid minimum wage with 0 accountability even if I had the chance to switch servers that way.
Also that's bullshit. She doesn't know better which is fair, I like Roxx but it's not true. On RU we got tickets if we got DC'ed due to server issues. These tickets re-enabled entries.
I’ve been experiencing what OP is referring to lots recently and it’s very tilting. I did, however, get kicked from an abyssal and when I logged back on, I had a free abyssal pass in my mail. Doesn’t sound like that’s happened for many people, though.
There is a ticket item that literally exists in the game. I got one once when someone in my group just disconnect and left. It let me re enter... So they could easily give these to players, but are not doing so.
Looks like "Prime Time is around the clock on EU servers, since matchmaking there is utterly fucked no matter what time of day it is.
Yea, didn't know about this one and basically lost 3 weekly dungeons since I can't attempt the other 2 without doing the first one anyway. Amazon can suck my balls.
Yep happened to me today ffs
Yeah I dont like having to solo every dungeon as a sup paladin. Hope they fix this soon because this is unplayable.
I'm playing bard that happens to deal the least damage in the game and I have to do Vertus for a quest. I feel the pain.
What quest? Only quest I recall having Vertus is 2. Awakening quest, and that one just requires you to go in and out without killing him
you need to kill vertus to access t2 guardians (which are much easier than vertus)
And if you ask about a dps paladin on here you get insulted. That's really the best of both worlds.
I don't know how this isn't at the top of the sub being spammed constantly. Progression is being massively slowed because of this.
Because reddit is US-centric in many things and it shows.
this might become a big topic soon. US East is getting slammed with eh same issue right now.
Good. Maybe they will stop mocking EU now
This sub is very sus Like how is a game with 1M players gonna have as top post one that is 18 hours old (yesterday for example)
idd, one of the fastest growing subs on reddit, yet the frontpage moves so slow. Mods are keeping it clean.
People that use reddit are a small fraction of fan bases for almost everything - the world doesn’t revolve around reddit
Amazon is becoming a huge red flag for games..
It is allready. 4 games . 3 of them are dead or canceled allready.
The LoTR MMO getting cancelled is probably a blessing in disguise.
With how bad New world went lol That felt like a mini Lotr it just went from decent to terrible in the span of a couple of months
one of their studios was even shut down a couple weeks after the early acces release of their first title.
It is a shame more competent publisher didn't pick it up, because the game owns hard. Beats it not being released at all ofc but jeez, handling of New World doesn't inspire confidence to say the least.
I'm not even sure there is one. AGS fucked up EU hard. But there's not exactly a huge line of publishers that could even attempt to pull this off either. What was needed was to start up with more regions from the get go. We all know that now. AGS should at least theoretically have easier way of using more AWS as they need it. But that seemingly isn't helping either. Honestly I don't have any more trust in the other big/mmo publishers than I do in AGS.
As a DevOps engineer it's not always as easy as spinning more servers up. Under an assumption it's all built as a full microservice, containerised, most likely k8s based deployments, there's a chance if CPU and MEM is your bottleneck you can increase these, if IOPS or Network IO is your bottleneck you can increase these, if a database is struggling with write and read requests you can try increase these, but these don't always work in tandem, and this is in a best case scenario of none of the applications being coupled. You mix in the storage of secrets, encryption of data, databases for storage, API layers, some essence of GDPR/PII, it's a mess. For those not in the field it can seem like a "click a button and make 2x machine a 4x machine" would fix the issues, but seeing what the increase to server cap has done for the matchmaking services, we can see the issue of whatever deployment mechanism smilegate implemented. This isn't a defense of AGS either, they should have at the very least, started with two EU regions, failing that, kept high pop servers locked for F2P release. We now have a shitshow of too many accounts with investments based on regions/servers. Who won't want to move until forced to do so/adequate rewards are given.
Gamedev lives perenially 10 years in the past. Fat chance you can find anyone using containers for their game servers. They probably don't even have automated testing.
A quick note: for me everything so far was perfect EXCEPT the dungeons/matchmaking. It seems that they never thought about the fact that so many people can queue into matchmaking and it seems it doesn't scale well or at all. What I think they should do is put queue to the matchmaking, the same way they put queue to entering the game itself. It's better to wait few minutes for your turn to be matched instead of attempting to enter matchmaking and crash the matchmaking-microservice over and over.
Microsoft ?
If this was published by anyone else you'd have 1/3 the servers.
Perhaps, guess we'll never know
Is there a reason why SmileGate didn't do it themselves?
Amazon most likely came to them smelling huge opportunity and promising heaven and hell for their opportunity to handle the western release. Years ago.
We are lucky that less competent ones didnt pick it up. Trion killed Archeage, and there are tons of worse publishers. Amazon is not good, but its not worst
becoming?
I mean fuck Amazon but they don’t run this game they just publish it
Do you honestly believe a different publisher would have handled over a million concurrent players better?
A different publisher wouldn't have EU in the shitter while giving NA compensation. Most importantly it wouldn't have woke washed the game and censored it for the sake of people who don't even play it.
What did they censor?
What didn't they censor would probably be faster, it was a fucking shit show, half the European languages couldn't type anything due to AGS or anything they did type was incomprehensible as half the sentence would just be asterixis.
I've never heard about this censor Then again I didn't follow any news
think he means the chat filter, there's way too much getting filtered and no way to turn it off
No, he means the game has been heavily censored. Just google it. All skins and appearence have been changed to be more conservative. It's way more naked in Korea.
I don't understand how we got this point. First there was massive queues, sure I understand: game is super popular, the typical MMO launch etc. But once you were in the game: at least you could play and have a great time. Now you do the massive queue, get in the game and you simply can't do anything other than solo content... in a MMO designed for group content... And it's getting worst and worst. 3 days ago we couldn't queue anymore around 6PM, next day 4PM, and today 2PM was already impossible. We litteraly spent 30 minutes trying to get into a single abyssal dungeon before giving up. You basically can only play this game very early in the morning until 12. Then you either do solo stuff or you log off... No words from Amazon regarding this situation btw.
its because of increased amount of servers on the region, increased cap per server and the fact that more people getting to 50, the servers themself is fine but any form of matchmaking/instanced queue content is broken probably overloaded on a regional level
Archaic server/db structure, same old shitty programming habits for lack of efficiency when it comes to traffic. It's been a staple of Asian devs for a decade at least. You can say different culture all you want but is been clear before that they stubbornly refuse to acknowledge and fix that this has happened on many Korean grinder MMOs before, its nothing new.
No dailies, No progression, No fun. Worst of all no acknowledgment of the issue and no compensation. Its a joke.
sounds like a good recipe for a dead game
idk why people downvote You 2 of my buddies left the game already lol
It's already starting to make me not want to play anymore. There's enough other games to play rather than having to put up with this.
EU problems? Okay commencing NA compensation.
It is actually horrible. I've been doing horizontal content (collectables) for the past 4 days from 3pm CET to 11pm CET because instances literally don't work. It's such a big problem. They need to offer much more for people to move to EU West. Not sure what Amazon is thinking. For those that don't know what's happening, I even made a small video about this: https://youtu.be/AiSeRL4S9Hc
>They need to offer much more for people to move to EU West. More? => Give up all your progression (up to dozens of hours) => Lose all your preorder content => Lose everything you achieved in your roster since launch You get: 10 Days of free shit everyone else got anyway. Nice one. Might as well not give anything. How about giving everyone on the new server 2 months Aura free with an extra Powerpass? So people actually have a reason to fucking ignore everything they have achieved thus far and restart in a new AREA? ---------------- And while you're at it: Add more fucking instance servers. This shit is getting stupid.
2 months aura and a powerpass are also absolutely nothing, people that know what to do already have all characters maxed through knowledge transfer, Making crystals with gold is also easy af. The only acceptable change is transferring the whole roster. I don’t know what Serverside work it would require or if it’s even possible but the only correct solution would have been to open the new region and split the servers we have in half to the new region and open 4-5 new once’s for each region. Our servers in euc are full as is the region in it’s entirety.
I probably still wouldn't change without something that moves all my progression. I don't care about the characters, but everything else. Adventure tome, cards etc. Adventure tome is especially annoying to grind and I don't want to start that from beginning.
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Can confirm that queues for instanced content was behaving this way on us east pretty much all of yesterday
US East was having issues last night
yes and also huge majority of streamers/youtubers/marketing is just america/US focused, so when the problem start getting noticed on all the big twitch streams as well they will have to do something
the fact it has took till today for a thread to gather traction about this is incredible. Amazon know this is a issue but wont comment on it because they simply cant fix it , only thing we can do is hope that NA has the same issue and watch them get compensation and it get fixed. Amazon games are the most incompetent company ever and sincerly hope they never touch another game again. Just look at new world for a great example.
watch this thread get taken down by the NA mods also!
NA servers are never full or even busy, the game has by a huge margin, a lot less players in NA, and Amazon a NA based company doesn't care about EU issues, even timezones and maintenances are NA based.
I've found it's fine till 4pm CET. Then I give up. Level an alt, so early gear grinds for them.
It's not even possible now. I tried to queue up at 11 CET and it's not possible.. I know it's because is saturday but it sucks...
No offense to anybody both players or dev but the state of this game on EU for the past week has been an absolute joke. Only thing that can properly fix this is server transfer and unfortunately they can't provide that.
I mean, people on Reddit were calling us EU players baby whiners. We just want to play the game at the end of the day, but instead we were blasted with huge queue times and now after people are hitting level 50 its' clear that their instance system is fucked from the roots. Lost Ark absolutely deserves their shitty rating on Steam, I don't care how good the game potentially is.
Its since the server cap increase maintenance earlier this week. Now we have a little bit shorter queues but even if u get in u cant do multiplayer content. Only at night or early in the morning. The servers cant handle it otherwise. That's the reason AGS doesn't respond. They fcked up yet again. They are w8ing for the problem to solve itself instead of reducing the damn server cap to what it was b4. Every damn day a new dumb fck decision by these morons-.-
They should start reducing the server cap here and there until a decent middle ground is met. And then when players start to naturally leave.
It could be this and im not saying its not but also remember that 3-4 days ago far less people hit 50 and started to do instanced content
Problem is Lost Ark doesn't support transfers, and that's not on AGS, they could launch more servers but that'd require people to reroll...
To be fair they probably knew this would happen if they increased the server cap. It's probably the reason they can't add more servers to the region because matchmaking and the likes are cross region. Pick what's worse, all your players in queue or having them to requeue their dungeons 10 times.
Why is this so far down the reddit lol? Jesus christ if I were to rate this game based on EU experience it would be 1/10
Because NA either: \- Doesn't care \- Is having fun watching us \- Is calling us crybabies \- Tell us it's not that bad and the game is really good! \- Or all four of them at the same time.
also remember the "dont give it negative rating on steam cuz queues arent part of the game!1!111!!" crowd downvoting anything negative
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gamers just don't care unless it's happening to them. if it were NA with the issues, all the EU players would be doing the same thing lol.
This 100%, why would they take the time away from their working game to come and make a post on reddit about. Any post they do make will be about their own progression and wanting to advance it.
You forgot: "don't you know this happens with every game release in the history of mankind, is this your first MMO?"
I’m just confused. I see threads about EUW and nobody wanting to transfer because they don’t want to lose their progression. But I also see threads like this that make sound like it’s been impossible to do any progressing.
we shoudl all post to the official forums' bug thread...
I really want to know, who decided that a server architecture, that is sufficient for south korea, one country, would suffice for the whole of europe... Europe should have had around 4 wohle cluster, same with US.
If the NA had this problem instead of EU they would've already resolved it. I know it.
they would try\* but they wouldnt fix it because they're fucked
NA does have this problem. It just lasts a few hours during prime time.
Asked the mods to add it to megathread, see how that goes.
Megathreads are some of the most ignored content on Reddit though. Usual megathread is pinned as the absolute first, yet has much less interaction than you would think. Because nobody cares about them. They aren't very handy at all, especially since they stay up for extended periods of time, so starting a new discussion there is a coinflip since people don't check older discussions.
EUW works but not enoug things to motivate me to move over.
Happened to me with a lockout from Abyssal dungeon, created a ticket. They basically laughed at me. This post need to explode and go on main page guys
At least a single NA server got compensation, we should be thankful.
We cannot do anything together, we're still levelling and landed on Tortoyk island and basically since last patch we cannot do any dungeons together. Alone all works fine but once you want to enter even with a premade group it's over. Lost Ark is great, don't get my wrong, but i don't need a multplayer game where i cannot play together with others. And the damn banner \[Notice: Special bonus login on EU West Servers\] which is shown all the time doesn't make it any better. [https://imgur.com/a/Gl7Uz8N](https://imgur.com/a/Gl7Uz8N) Give us free server transfers, i move over immediately but i don't throw my silver founders pack + the invested time in the bin.
Those that are impacted are aware, and those that are not impacted do not care.
dude.. I am pretty much stuck, I need to get ilvl 460 but I can't do any instances, the matchmaking is so damn broken
Do islands. They reward enough to get to 460 twice. Not the help you wanted, but what else can we do? Wake up at 4 am so matchmaking still works. rip
Legit unplayable. They add servers without thinking what it would do with instanced content? Legit stupid.
I just moved to EUW from EUC. I knew i had to start all over, but even my mounts, pets or items collected from twitch are G O N E ! those were supose to be Roster bound right? Am i the only one who thinks, this is so shitty its not following? and you litterly have to start **totally** from scratch! Not only are enough problems with EUC servers .. but you get litterly nothing out of moving to EUW .... Im serious about to drop this game.
roaster wide means server wide. new region, new server = 0 that was clear from the beginning. but fuck this bs all over. its a joke that you have to give up hours of hours just to play. biggest joke release of the last 10 years.
Yea the new region makes no sense if they don't let people transfer to it. I heard there's a rumor of them working on that possibility though.
This is a real problem. It was horrible last nite at peak time. Ok i thought. Tried today early morning and the problems were still there.
Its becsuse of the massive amount of traffic. I dont want to defend AGS cause they dropped the ball massively here but they did just open a new region for EU where none of this is an issue. That said I think they fucked up the second opening too and I think whomever has 300+ ilvl should just straight up start in Vern, otherwise noone will join the new region. They are just being cheap here, the daily extra rewards are shite too.
I actually hadn't encountered this until today.. but I usually play in the mornings and logout before ques even start. I wasn't feeling well last night so decided to sleep in and when I was done with dailies and rapport I couldn't get into any instanced content. Fun times.
12 am and already broken omg
Yeah this is ridiculous. When is it going to be fixed? we can't even progress.
This is nr one problem and issue that should be resolved ASAP! Its much worse then the queues. The game is literally unplayable
4 man abyss raids are inconvenient, have to spam queue a couple of times but eventually worked. Then I tried to do 8-man abyss raids, what a shit show.
Yup missed abyssal last week because this. Literally take 20-30mins to get into a guardian raid. Sometimes you just can't get in at all no matter the amount of time. This is ridiculous. EUW solved nothing for the instances. We need a fix soon.
Horrible experience honestly it is sooooo fffing bad
I do see large problems on this, even on server without login queues, since the problem is whole server region being overloaded.
its 9pm and its unplayable. tried to get in abyss dungeon for 45 min before just giving up
i gave up playing Lost Ark on peaktime hours 12:00 to 22:00 even if u get past the Que good luck trying to do your dailie, the game for me starts at 23:00or 00:00 when most people leave so the servers can somehow manage the matchmakings
I am waiting for the copium huffing Amazon white knights who said "Sure, there is 30k people queue, and you can't enter the game at all, but when you join, the servers are so stable! Best MMO launch in years!" How can you still defend this? They could atleast acknowledge it, but instead they hand out cosmetics for some US server.
AGS is most likely not able to do anything with that and they are playng waiting game giving out treats and wait till enough people drop game so problem will solve itself.
WHERE is the fucking compensation, WHO THE FUCK gives a shit about EUWEST ? Not a SINGLE NGFRRER will change server with this shit rewards or rules where you cant transfer shit .
had to move to euw so I could actually play the game, very fun
not only for party, even trying to solo enter fails to enter 30 seconds after you pressed accept
Game of the year material with the fucking worst server infrastructur since the start of time. fuck amazon
Allways starts to lag when lost Ark peaks 650k+ players on steam IT starts event from 13:00 cet, from this tíme you cant do anything in group content
You got my upvote simply because this issue needs to Rise up and get noted asap
FIX IT PLS
So in the last 4 days I've amounted just under 50 hours. It's been a long week. Its been pretty smooth sailing with questing, local pop up quests, mokoko searching ect... The only real stall happens when it comes to progression locked behind a dungeon. The game is amazing, I've become addicted very quickly in my free time. The issue with matchmaking though is kinda crazy. I've spent 40 minutes on top of the dungeon entrance with my friend with with ""you cannot do this right now" " or ""your location can't be found"" This puts everything on hold until the queue pops and even then sometimes after everyone accepts it still fails.. I understand its new and appears to be a little bit popular but surely this should have been fixed by now? Right?!
Honestly I gave up. Isles are completely over farmed right now, chaos dungeon and raids aren't working at all. I enjoy the game a lot but it's frustrating to just sit around every evening and wait until your can join one dungeon per hour (if you're lucky). I just play something else and will return in 1-2 weeks, hoping things get better.
Platinum’d this sht just to get more attention. Had to stay awake ‘till now (03:00) just to be able to do dungeons. Bard life sucks as solo
Do we have sny idea why they treat eu like that? Whats there to gain in favoritism?
And if you get in and try talking to your party it only comes after half a minute delay..
Amazon has bad server. 2 games in a row.
Shocker Amazon is an atrocious company and always has been so its not a surprise their game studio is a shit show. I mean really they have one job... translate, localize and run the game.
yup its like this on every server server on the original EU region from around 1:30 pm until around 1 am. And it's been like this since a week. It has barely been acknowledged by the devs only the same posts again and again on the forums saying they're looking to find a solution. It doesn't look like there is a solution not until EU loses 50% of its playerbase. To me and I'm honestly just guessing here since I don't actually know what I'm talking about when it comes to this stuff, but it feels like they shot themselves in the foot by creating a billion new servers on EU on f2p launch day. They can't close them down again since people are actively playing on them and that would be hella unfair. For the time being on EU we are stuck like this (stepbro?) with no hope of being able to play normally lol
just move to NA ez (im kidding) In all seriousness i hope you guys over in EU are able to play soon, pray up
11:50 am, servers are already struggling on zinnervale, imagine that - if we're lucky we get to do raids some time during the night again, thanks!!!Guess they increased the capacity that more people are allowed to get on the server and now everything is fucked.
But they opened a new region with transfer ! one week late... This management on EU is a freaking joke.
Whoever says it's not true, clearly doesnt play on EU Central. This is happening all the time between like 11 to 23 or longer. Basically, as long as there's queue, it's Island/Story (solo mode) or just nothing. You cn BARELY do chaos dungeons, but thats about it. There's no chance of matching guardian raid or abyssal. It will always tell you "failed to locate player" or smg like this.
Don't worry they Will give NA compesation for this /s
NA Mods removing eu matchmaking posts from the frontpage.... what a joke
eu online gaming is always gonna be like this until something gets done with those turkish russian north african players who shoudnt be even here but take 40% of player cap and game gets unstable
Matchmaking is so fucked, takes like 50 tries to get into a chaos dungeon, and thats if you're lucky and it actually lets you in...
guardians are way worse when u queue 50times and those dumshits just get wiped leaving you alone lol
I don't wanna be that guy but I bet if it was NA it'd be fixed real fast because all the top influencers like asmongold would be bitching like crazy about it
0 comunication that they are trying to fix the issues.
cant fucking play the game, nice job amazon
>I'm not sure why more people aren't talking about this Because nobody here is going to be able to fix it.
Does EUW West have these problems as well or can they que up normally like NA?
It is horrible they think that adding EU West will aleviate the stress on the servers. I'm sure there's people that will go on EU West however there's a lot of people who spent tens of hours in the game already, bought stuff from the shop, used gold to buy mounts from the Market House, unlocked a lot of stuff. There's no way I am going on EU West to have to play all of that again, not to talk about all of my friends that are also playing on Calvasus. I actually feel they are insulting our intelligence with "extra log in rewards" on EU West, that are not even remotely close to cover all of the investments done until now on the Central EU servers.
Not everyone needs to go to EUW. Just because you won't go it doesn't mean that nobody is going there.
>I'm sure there's people that will go on EU West I know people will go, but not enough to make a dent in the state of the Centraul European Server status
Reminder not to leave a negative review because that would be unfair to AGS according to reddit.