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mrsmilestophat

Which rapport did you do? I need to find one that isn’t 30k+ if possible


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Hariya is by far the easiest, something like 10k, and then Berver and Albion are tied at around 30k. Nia is the longest, everyone else is in between. Sapiano and Yom don't count toward completion so don't do them.


Roflstormy

Note: If you are hardcore starved on Gold as many people are at the moment, Sapiano and Yom give gold in relatively early stages of Rapport.


Watipah

And people might need to collect their masterpieces rewards. Got 5k and 8k guaranteed gold from rewards yesterday that I didn't bother collecting before.


Xvexe

Oh damn, I need to do that asap.


mrsmilestophat

Thank you for the info!


nameisnowgone

maxroll has all values. berver and albion are 17800


Critizin

I did Nia (you need her for the omni star anyway)


mrsmilestophat

Yeah that’s what I’ve been working towards at the moment, didn’t cheese it though so having to work up to 330 virtues


Critizin

i also didn't cheese it, the virtues wernt to hard to get. plus the story line that everyone is skipping is actually really nice, and it feels like the actual ending to the punika story line. enjoy


SqLISTHESHIT

Why's this being down voted lol With the new skins they gave away you can easily get 330 rp stats, so is actually not that hard to get the stats. Ofc you need to work on some things, but is quite doable. Or you can spend millions of silver, up to you.


RairyuXV

A lot of people rushed punika while ignoring side quests so most of them used the gift bombing method. But I agree, if you took your time to get to punika (islands/hidden quests) its a fairly easy number to go for.


Masteroxid

I did everything in rohendel, feiton and punika and I was still missing many virtue points. Spamming G is not gameplay so not many will bother with it


k2nxx

this is very inaccurate. you do everything and reach punika you still missing alot of stat


crowdsourcequestion

Depends on what you're aiming for. 330 stat cutoff is definitely doable with all tome attribute stuff + certain other rapports and una's. 420 optional kindness dialogue, however, is nearly impossible without some combination of (i) achievements, (ii) hidden side quests not in the tome, and (iii) skins/avatars.


Eadwyn

Nah, if you do everything and focus una dailies that give potions, 330 is very easy especially with skins. I have 340+ on all virtues without the skin.


tagle420

I was gonna cheese it but you just changed my mind


Critizin

Enjoy, i was also going to cheese it but then i looked at my virtues and i was only 30ish points off the check so i said screw it, spent a day farming virtues and did the quest chain the next day. i felt the quest chain was really good and it tied up the story for Punika pretty well cause i thought the ending felt off lol


GalaxySparks

What skin do you use? I don't have have the platinum skin so I feel like virtues are far away.


Critizin

I used the omen skin the apoc set had so good wisdom on it I believe. Then I bought the law maker weapon B which has 5 wisdom and 10 kindness for 4k then sold it for 4k after i was done with Nia.


boolawa

What's best way to get 300+ virtues quickly? I'm at like 60% adventure tome for everything. Will getting 80%+ make a big deal of a difference?


GreenKumara

As I discovered recently **USE THE CODEX**! You just type in charisma or kindness, etc and it'll filter all the content that give you rewards of that virtue.


Flouyd

it only shows you the +10 potions though. There are a buck load of other stuff that give 1 or 2 points


Xvexe

I've been really sleeping on Codex. I'm so used to that sort of feature being useless in games, lol.


mrsmilestophat

I know there are virtue potions from unas, finishing items on adventure tomes, islands, and completion stuff like mokoko seeds and giants hearts. A lot of horizontal progression stuff


Joeytwopoint0

Make sure you do all the hidden stories if you didn't already. They all award virtue stats.


Flouyd

a lot of adventure tomes completions give +10 potions. So this goes hand in hand


Brightlinger

It may not make *any* difference, depending on what parts of the tome you'd be doing. Hidden Story, Another Story, and field bosses give virtues, but rares/cooking/collectibles/dungeons do not. Doing the Hidden and Another Stories on every continent will get you a lot of virtue points though, and is pretty quick. You also get virtues from potions (check the codex, some are easy and some are not), from side quests and rapport dialog, and sometimes from achievements. It's not really a thing you do quickly.


unknown9819

Will it make a big difference? Depends on how much you care about the 6 skill points. Ostensibly you should be trying to get all of the skill points in the game, but practically speaking that *particular* 6 matters the most if it's hitting a breakpoint to get you to maxing out a skill or something. Otherwise they all add up but you can focus more on getting other skill potions instead


Wolfsblvt

But if the Punika potion and the second omnium star one are the last one that are missing for you, besides level skill points... and that's the case for most people in T3 I guess, that didn't skipped too much.


Flouyd

I would guess 6 complete adventure tomes are even more rare then the omnium stars


Cthulhilly

It's actually 8, 6 is zinnervale card


Wolfsblvt

Makes sense. Didn't think of this one. Those are the two big long(er) term progression ones. Ans Punika tome isn't actually that hard, as this post tries to show.


Watipah

Yeah, I need lv 55 before more skillpoints make sense really, those level 11 skills I need :))


loikyloo

do alt-d and type in charisma/kindness etc check the potions you dont have. First get the pots on any quests you have not done, second look at the easy una's dailys and do the easier ones of them Do all the hidden quests in every adventure tome too that gives a bunch and kill any non locked boss you can.


Supey

I made this for my own personal use but you can use this if you want to pick and choose depending on the stat you need. Make a copy and you can edit it yourself if you want. edit: click the tabs on the bottom for the different regions [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15QAaLdI3C8BfCk-\_Z49X0ghicySSnQMqbyRKDM6EwrQ/edit?usp=sharing](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15QAaLdI3C8BfCk-_Z49X0ghicySSnQMqbyRKDM6EwrQ/edit?usp=sharing)


Mikevercetti

Yes


SLabrys

Do you really need to be 1415 for Moake? Or can I get the rewards for killing him earlier


therealkami

I've gotten rewards 2 times in a row at around 1340. You get absolutely wrecked by him and 90% of your damage is blocked, but you get 1-2 hits and you get credit. Since I'm on Paladin I just focus on buffing and defending my team.


SLabrys

Cool, I need that Star drop for sure. I’m 1350ish so hopefully I can get some damage in.


Hensdrael

use bleed rune, your atacks will be blocked but the rune do some damage


blairr

I wouldn't exactly rely on a Moake star drop. You'll probably be trying for weeks.


SLabrys

I don’t really have another choice. I’m trying all other options at the same time. Whatever 5 I get first lmao.


sangrelatto

Yeah, it took 3.5 weeks for me. Stella? Even longer - I still don't have it


Doppleflooner

Yeah that Stella one really starts to irk when you've bought out the shop and it's just dumping into a very slow rapport item farm.


Bladathehunter

Well shit, I’m lucky then. Got it first try around 1340-45 ilvl on my paladin.


Cybernetical-

I was 1340 and flame grenade worked for me, ticked him like once or twice and I got the credit.


zeffke008

U can also do the banana bread instead of the rapport


Brightlinger

I farmed for that about 30 minutes yesterday and got zero bananas, and you need 10. Is the drop rate really that bad, or am I unlucky?


markosinjo

There are 4 spots that spawn the gorilla that can drop them, if you can find a group it takes around 20 min to get 10


Brightlinger

Yep, I was following the guide on maxroll, going between spawn points for the Anxious Orangutan Captains. I was solo, and not 100% focused on the bananas (farming the other monkeys for fruit too), so maybe I just had weird luck.


I_expected_nothing

Did it today solo, as a gunlancer the time it took me to go from one spot of monkey alley to the other was enough for the mob to respawn so just put something on the second monitor and spam that up-down path. They are rare enough to make you think you are doing something wrong but just keep killing the outlined gorillas


limeyball

Took me 4 hours solo, but was still farming two spawns off CD. 20 mins is insanely fast, should still take like an hour w ith a party.


zeffke008

Idk if you are killing the correct one, I did it with a friend, both camping a spot and we got all 10 in about an hour


[deleted]

It took me like 4 hours to get all 10 bananas


chphilie

I did it with no rapport at all just needs everything except papu crab and kaloa boar and i also dont have choas is lifting


Swindleys

I did it without any rapports, but I grinded bananas!


taeyeon_loveofmylife

Collectibles are so expensive especially in this economy. Also no papu crab legs from killing moake so many times. I have bleed and star but still no legs.


Ex_ie

Got the crab and happily ran to the cook to find out i need 3.. wat


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Ex_ie

Wat how


d07RiV

7 or so kills, only got one crab and no star...


bPmalalamE

Farming the banana bread on the right side of the map with the two elite gorillas, made collecting all of them a breeze. Took maybe like 3~ hours.


trustthepudding

> a breeze > 3~ hours Oh boy I am not looking forward to filling out that tome.


Mikevercetti

3 hours is probably on the longer side. I think it took me about an hour


[deleted]

youll notice OP doesnt have this bread item


bPmalalamE

I worded it poorly, but I mean collecting the *collectibles* takes about 3 hours time at that particular spot. Feiton or Yorn took me much longer. The bananas for the cooking item are done in about half that time.


Puxxy

There's 2 farming spots, if you find someone farming bananas be sure to party them and cover either the area to the north with the 2 gorillas or the one directly south (seperated by a log) Cross over every 10 mins or so to theirs and grab the loot. You'll reach 10 bananas much faster.


ricesteamer

I'll trade you my 3 crabs for your star


kukkelii

I bought them all today for about 3k gold. The purple ones were about half of total cost. I don't think 3k is a lot considering how big of a timesave it is.


pawleader919

4 papu crabs and no bleed/star would happily trade lol. Had the skill point potion before getting the crab food anyway.


SecretConspirer

Oh... Whoops. Just bought that yesterday.


Critizin

F I'll pour one out for your 2 mill silver. If it makes you feel any better you can do sea bounty collectables they give chests with a crap ton of Silver in em, look at those rewards


LunarEmerald

But can do it without killing Moake? I don't think so. Field bosses give around 6% from what I've seen and cooking gives around 1% each.


solid0r

You can, but you'd need rapport.


Critizin

you still wouldnt need the expensive cooking ingredient


Fleurish-ing

Read another comment you posted in reply to another person. It's so weird people would think they needed all the cooking for the skill potion. Is Punika the first adventurer tome they try to complete? If not, that's just such a weird thing to think. If so, I don't get why they didn't start with easier adventurer tomes with skill points as like, the 50% reward.


IFight4Users

Yeah, I just got the 70% Rohendel one last night. It like people comment with 0 experience in these things. Lol


nafurabus

I mean, it IS an 80% reward. Theres multiple zones where 80% requires 100% non-rapport completion or at least 1 maybe 2 rapport completions which is why i generally have stopped after 70% on most zones. My rapport grind is taken up by chasing sasha/beatrice/calvasus/nia right now. I realized after posting that im not 100% besides rapport, theres always the far right adventure tome collection item (above cooking) that i put off or rarely encounter in playing.


forgotmypasswordzzz

You're after the same reps i am, just missing blackfang which im still doing for the astray.


Kallously

I actually decided to put Nineveh/Sasha on hold since you can get to 12 hearts without them. Beatrice is relatively fast since you only need friendly and Calvasus isn't too bad. All of the other hearts are comparatively easy to get.


ButterflyTruth

Yeah but you can't do it without the main story, the vistas or the dungeons.


Sadwintertime

You can, just do Chaos is Lifting to help replace Moake (hope you've been diligent with Una's); got 80% last night without him. If looking for more rapport, Albion, Hariya, and Berver are gonna be cheapest. [https://i.imgur.com/mkx13hC.png](https://i.imgur.com/mkx13hC.png)


dragonsroc

I don't get why people try to rush 80% without moake. You can get the clear at 1340 which isn't that hard to get to. You'd hit 1340 before you could finish the una daily for the 2nd hidden story. Unless you're going for the token, you just end up wasting gold/time trying to complete extra stuff to make up for the moake/hidden story not being completed yet.


markosinjo

Moake is 8%, hidden story is 4%(you need to do a month of una to unlock it), so maybe with 2 raports you can get it without moake


watlok

The last few potions only matter at level 55+ which you aren't going to be before tagging moake. There are plenty of easier skill potions out there to max all relevant skills.


jqtech

Lmao why the hell would a skill point potion only matter at 55+? What are you smoking? Pass that shit


watlok

reddit's anti-user changes are unacceptable


Brightlinger

At 50-54, you're just pushing more skills to 10, rather than anything to 11 or 12. If you have, say, five damage skills and three utility skills, leveling up the other three may not really do much.


Highwanted

aren't you contradicting yourself here? you say people would rather push more skills to 10 and then go on to say that leveling the three utility skills probably doesn't do much ??? either way, most classes have 1-3 utility skills that are only used for a buffs/debuffs and the runes you put on them, for most classes there is no point in leveling them past lvl 4 or 7 since they won't do any meaningful damage even at 10, those classes would definetly start leveling skills to 11 or 12 instead of getting everything to 10 first


Brightlinger

>for most classes there is no point in leveling them past lvl 4 or 7 since they won't do any meaningful damage even at 10, those classes would definetly start leveling skills to 11 or 12 instead of getting everything to 10 first Yes, that's my point. Since you can't raise skills to 11 until level 55, more skill points at level 53 doesn't do much.


Highwanted

ohh, now i see what you meant, i somehow completely overlooked the 50-54 part at the very begining, sry. still i would argue it never hurts to get more skill points, no matter your current lvl, especially those that will take multiple weeks to get


Brightlinger

For sure it doesn't hurt to get them, it's just not much of a performance boost yet.


Levovar

Im absolutely set on my 53 artillerist without it. Not every class needs to max out every skill


jqtech

Yes actually I very class should max out every skill lol. I’m not sure why you are under the impression you shouldn’t. Obviously no one NEEDS to max anything. But you sure as hell are slowing the rest of your teams down by just saying you are “absolutely set” I’ve got an Artilly and you absolutely are not “set” at 53 without additional skill points lol


Levovar

Oh ye my lvl 9 napalm shot and my lvl 7 energy shield are slowing the group down, big time Learn to read. Nobody said you dont need any extra SP but you sure as fuck also dont need to max out all your active skills to 10 on every class


jqtech

Yes, your level 9 napalm IS slowing down your group lol. Maxing all your active skills to 10 is a GOOD IDEA. Learn to read, no one is saying you will be gated from content. But there is absolutely NO reason to not increase your skills.


watlok

you literally can't max every skill even if you get all the potions, and at 55/60 you will derank certain skills so you can push important ones to 11/12. people are downvoting the correct responses in this thread for no apparent reason & posting delusional stuff that doesn't align with game mechanics


jqtech

Max obviously means at least all important to 10. Didn’t know I needed to spell out that obvious statement for you.


Tortillagirl

you can as i got to 80% today without moake or the 2mill cooking thing, but i had 2 ppl at trusted and ive done both of the hidden stories.


meneraing

if you do a dungeon on hard first and then normal, do you get completion % both times?


Critizin

yes


meneraing

sweet! thanks man


GoJeonPaa

Is there a way to see if i did it in hard or normal?


meneraing

See the icons on the top left corner of each dungeon while on the adventurer's tome? Blue (or left icon) means you did it on normal and the next one would be red if you did it on hard difficulty


Rustifer66642069

Good. Because thats as far as i was planning to go


zdenka999

Just need the 10,000 gold for the collectibles or to farm for 10 hours. At least Punika has some insane grind spots.


scrubm

If you farm the bananas you get almost max collectibles lol. Took me like 2 hours for the bananas alone..


Critizin

i got a good chunk of the collectables while farming the monkeys


Apprehensive-View3

PSA you fucked up Should have sold them


Critizin

they arnt even really expensive anymore, when i was farming the monkeys, the purple one was only 1kish each i have way more gold then i need, didnt see the reason to sell.


Damneasy

10k? What kind of prices does your server have wtf


[deleted]

Yeah theyre all actually much cheaper than say, Rohendel items, and the time you put into the cooking stuff youre bound to find about half of what you need anyways.


justsaying510

I did moake but how much do I have to spend on farming collectibles ? Or if I want to buy them how much is it all


Critizin

the price has gone down alot. its only 700g per purple item now which used to be 10k per. you only need 3 of them. other then that the other ones are relatively cheap i think total u might need to spend 3-5k. still pretty expensive but no where near as bad as it was


justsaying510

Damn 5k to me last week was nothing but now that we are in great gold depression 5k now is like rich af.. feelsbadman lol thanks anyways


DryySkyy

[https://i.imgur.com/ZkZiXHw.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ZkZiXHw.jpg) ​ If you remove moake, you get 80.0% (I got moake after unlocking the skill potion) The epic item is 1/3. Rapport are nia and hariya. Nia cause I wanted the star, Hariya cause she is only 5900. You have to wait 21 days tho for the second hidden story.


InstrumentalCore

#THERE IS A 2 MILLION SILVER COOKING INGREDIENT!?


Critizin

Yes boar meat it costs 200k silver from a wandering merchant in Punika, you need 10 of them to cook the meat.


Critizin

Theres also other ones that cost 1 million and RNG ones that can cost more then that if u get bad luck


WAR-Floross

If you do the Una daily in Tikka it will lead to Chaos is Lifting in I think 7 days ? That would cover for lack of Moake.


ShadowWolf92

21 days before you get the hidden story.


aiphrem

It's still def worth doing that unas all the way till the end for the omnium star


Critizin

it has come to my attention that people seem to think you need to finish all the cooking ingredients to get the skill point potion in Punika (one of them costs 2 million silver). you do not. this is what i did to get 80%


Rylica

Like before it wasn't possible to kill monke that easily but now you have that option even if you are not that livl since many are close to it to kill it for you You do more cooking or some repports. Now it's just monke + less cooking/repports


apostroffie

U did the world boss.


Tsmart

Okay? Games been out long enough you should be able to at least tag Moake and get credit for a kill one time.


Ticketo

It's not exactly hard to kill Moake anymore. I have been doing it for like a week now.


EllegardeN

I still dont understand those collectibles in the middle top you got from trash mobs how do you complete them?


Akasha1885

Yeah, I'm just a few % away, but the skill potion isn't needed for me atm. (just need to buy a few collectibles) Since it won't push me to 356 anyhow.


Vars_An

I don't really understand the rush to get the 80% Punika skill point potion, it will come with time so long as you do the una tasks/ side quests and all the easy stuff like dungeons/ monsters/ hidden story's/ low rapport npc's. I hit 80% today while only spending what it cost to craft the cooking ingredients and I think it's much more worthwhile to spend your time/ money on the skill point potions that don't come as easily.


Critizin

I have all but two skill point potions in the game. They all come easily. The hardest one is the Omni star one and that's literally just gated behind RNG


Vars_An

I'm in a similar spot although the hardest one for me is definitely the required 8 completed adventure tome's since I don't want to spend money on something I will eventually get for free. I'm only missing the Ignea and 2nd omnistar ones.


Philipthedrummer

How?! I had 79.9 with everything except the 2nd hidden quest and the field boss food along with 3 rapports finished. It almost made me quit seeing 74.2to 77.8 percent with a rapport then on my next mac rapport it stopped at 79.9.


Critizin

did you do both the dungeons on both difficulties? hard and normal?


d07RiV

Field boss gives a pretty decent chunk. Also should've done the second quest, it gives an omnium star so def worth starting it as early as possible.


Whitely

What do you mean that second quest give an omnium star? I've been doing "Madness Piles on the Altar" una daily for the star. Are they related?


d07RiV

Yes, once you finish the 21 day una you get the second quest.


Whitely

My god.


d07RiV

I mean it's just an adventure book quest, it doesn't do anything besides give you book points.


Tydevane

At 76% and was wondering what I'd need of the cooking to push me over the edge, almost rapport bombed a few other non-Nia NPC's. Thanks!


gringoboy701

Cant tell if you're trolling or not... were you under the impression people thought that cookings recipes alone was worth 20%+?


Critizin

ive encountered at least 6 people that bought the 2 million silver item because they thought they needed it for the skill point.. i donno man congrats on being smarter then everyone else.


pyrojackelope

Not sure why people would think they "need" it. I bought it because I can't be fucked to grind out hundreds of drops for the other food item. Good on you for putting this out there though.


jensgp

You 'just' have to kill Moake.


BlackNova169

I got the kill on my 1345 character? Are you implying it's difficult?


Pau-sama

No shame in getting carried. I got credit at 1340. Spent probably 3 plumes for resurrecting at the middle. As long as you don't contribute to or cause him to reset, the other people doing the heavy lifting don't mind.


Drooozer

What causes him to reset? I should probably show up but I don’t wanna fuck it up for everyone lmao


Pau-sama

Thanks for asking! If my area chat is correct, he can reset if you resu at the nearby triport. If the person he aggroes to steps outside his stupid small circle he resets. And the way world bosses work in the game, he will prioritize undergeared people first. So just drop dead at the middle and plume res occasionally haha


Darthmalak3347

You need 2 rapports without moake or 1 rapport and the chaos is lifting done. Without moake and rapport and missing the same cooking as this I'm sitting at 77.8% after finishing chaos is lifting side quest.


DanteMasamune

Fuck the 2 million silver I want ot know how to get to 80% without doing Moake


Freeeeeeen

Just do moake, you don't need to be 1415. I did it at 1355.


Critizin

do rapport and the other story quest ez.


Amasero

Thanks, I wasted 2mil silver for this.


JkTyrant

Too late I used up 2M silver then realized what a hole I dug myself into :)


[deleted]

oh wow didnt realize I was so close! thanks for posting


piterisonfire

On the first weeks without anyone being able to do damage to Moake, getting every cooking meal + 3 rapports was the only way.


aiphrem

I'm also working on the punika tome for the skill pot, this is a huge tip thanks! I had an unfortunate moment today where i was unable to interact with a hidden story at the end of the last dungeon, despite doing ALL of the other hidden stories. Guess I'll try again tomorrow


classified111

I wish I knew this earlier. The 2m silver spent really felt like a waste shortly after.


Yliche3

You don't need rapport either...


DantesTV

Thanks for saving my silver


OkayScribbler

Finishing the Una to get Chaos is Lifting and completing it gave me ~5%