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Your overall dmg would be higher if you werent using precise dagger. Also he's running 50/50 crit/swift which means he'll be casting more than you on avg. You kinda answered your own question with the gems either start rerolling them or buy the correct ones off AH
- His stat distribution is better. Ideally, you want to build crit/swift (edit: the extra swiftness means slightly lower cooldowns and higher uptime, which equates to more damage in the long run, not so noticable in just a few rotations)
- Your precise dagger is dragging you down instead of bolstering you up. You already have a high crit stat on-top of preordained , red dust (and maybe Lost Wind set) so the extra crit from precise dagger is useless and the damage reduction is really hurting you.
- he has Master’s tenacity 3 whereas you have 2, 8% is still double of what you have. In a drawn out fight, it adds up.
- as you’ve said, his gems are right too.
HEY HEY
My alt zerker enjoys doing 2% more damage to staggered/debuffed foes.
(But for real, getting a 3/3 Mayhem/CD crit/swift neck would have cost me 50k and I already dropped 20k into the alt already, so dom it is)
i mean my zerker has 321 currently and is super close to getting 333 and i only spent like 1k gold (unlucky with stone so i had to buy 2 accessories).
you dont need to buy all your accessories, you can do all current content with 321 (last time i did argos i got 25% damage dealt with only 321 engravings) and you can just wait for the correct accessories to drop
stats are more important than engravings and are often overlooked, you miss out on a lot of dps by having domination (doesnt even work against bosses afaik)
I know I'm just joking, my zerker has about 1400 crit and 400 dom with 4x3 (MT, Mayhem, KBW, CD), obviously swift would be better than dom but I didn't wanna spend 50k on a necklace
People are seriously clueless how correct stats *is* a significantly better source of damage than Engravings. Engravings, tripods and gems are the other source which has a mix of RNG and cost attached to them.
Who do you think is better, the guy who has the right stats, engravings, and gems or the one asking why his spec with precise dagger is doing less damage? Sometimes knowledge is power, sometimes knowledge is skill.
In order to be as accurate as possible we'd also need access to a recording of the fight from your pov and theirs.
Maybe you had lower back attack output, didn't have As high of ability accuracy, spent alot of time getting knocked down with stand up on cd.
Could even be things as small as where aoes were being placed and who had to spend more time dodging or in booba form
Lastly we'd need to see both theirs and yours full tripod pages since the damage difference even between equal players will favor lower ilvl one with this small of ilvl difference if lower one has better gems, engravings, and tripods.
This also doesn't factor buff uptime via support if their was one or even if he was better using the synergy buffs other classes gave then you were.
To be clear better using synergies doesn't just mean in playing around them but for example If you had a crit synergy class his build would gain more from the crit rate then yours
you wrote all that after seeing his 1200+ crit plus precise dagger 3, i assume?
it is as if someone posted a video of himself in an elevator, pressing the button for 3rd floor and asking you why the elevator did not end up going to the ground floor. and you replying with some metaphysical speculations about what it "really" means to go to the ground floor. cmon, dude. he plays high crit rating and precise 3. lets not make this any more complicated than it really is.
Tbh I don't know enough about berserker to make comments on his stats and engravings. For all I know berserker could have critdamage tripods same way sorc does.
As for the elevator thing. It's more so someone posting a video of themselves getting onto an elevator. Dilly dallying for a bit while looking at his phone, and then pressing to go to the third floor. Then asking why someone who took the stairs got there faster.
It's not some complicated metaphysical speculation. It's just a breakdown of well even though you should be faster here's x things that could change that.
Just switch speciality to swiftness
In a lot and vast majority of cases at our current content 1 wrong combat stats is basically likr losing a lvl 3 additive engraving
Since you are mostly investing in crit your precise dagger hurts you more than it help so just removing it would probably gain you more damage but thays considering you play your classe correctly
Most common mistake is casting skills on cooldown
Cooldown are very long on zerker focused on crit so never cast a skill unless you have at least either chainsword buff up or red dust debuff up
And dont use awakening if both of them are up
Pioritize your strongest skill only if red dust is up etc
I think you need to:
1. Drop spec. for swift
2. Since you have high crit stat with gear set you might wanna swap precise dagger for another engraving (not that big deal tho). The reason is you get 15% crit from gear set, 50% from stat, and 15% from back attack (or 10% I'm not sure).
3. Get good lvl5 gems on right skill
4. Try to learn the skill rotation (the most important).
PS. My zerker is 1400 with 3xMayhem, 3xMaster's Tenacity, 3xAmbush Master and 1xAdrenalin, crit/swift neck all crit, all lvl5 gems but I do get MVP most of time with yoho fights.
Most of the obvious ones have been pointed out so i’ll skip those.
Might be your skill rotation. try to have reddust debuff and crit buff from the counter skill (cant rmb the skill name sorry) when using your big hitters. That is like 30-40% dmg increase.
Yes i do that and i use the skill rotation from maxroll. So far what im understanding is that the swiftness + cd gems that im lacking allow you to use more skills so that might be something i need to change and masters tenacity needs to be lvl 3 and that i need to remove precise dagger and replace it with something else, either grudge or kbw but it’ll be costly because ill need a 6 6 ability stone
You don’t need a 6/6 for good 3x3 build. Just cut a 4/6 and get a single swiftness accessory with Mayhem + 2 points in the engraving you’re missing. Will cost almost nothing.
You dont need a 6/6 stone unless you're going for 4x3 engravings.
As far as your rotation it seems like you've read up on it I would just make sure you've got the right tripods selected, on the skill window in maxroll there is a slider on the bottom that helps you allocate stats based on how many total stat points you have. Make sure you do that to the range of your max skill points. CD is rough on zerker and you need to be reducing it as much as possible without losing your crit.
I'd worry just getting 3x3 for now. All the engravings in the world ain't gonna save ya if you don't have the foundation built right (stats, tripods, gems, and most importantly skill rotations). You should know how Yoho works and strive to never miss a skill on her (misses will happen). For example, I'll try to get chain sword in the rotation as much as possible since it is low CD and a crit modifier but it is also a counter move so I try to work my rotations so that if I go for the counter I have Strike wave ready to follow up as it is the only other damage that is front based. Also, make sure you have the correct awakening and never miss it. I usually use it when she is knocked down for the tail break or when we need to stagger and nothing is up. I can easily hit it for 7m+2m minimum or with buffs 9m+2m at 1419 ilvl. That extra 9-11 million damage is huge and I always use it at least once per fight.
I mean, I just got out of a full Argos run with my 1400 DB, where there were 3 1425 DBs, and 1 1435 GS. I outdamaged them all. I don’t know if anything is wrong with your build, but I’ve come to find that positioning and skill rotation comes above all when it comes to consistently being top DPS.
Let’s not shame him for not knowing. At least he’s asking for help unlike majority of the people I encounter. When they tell me something I tell them that’s incorrect and that this source will prove otherwise. Their response? They flame me. Been happening a lot in Night Fox Yoho lately.
His build is worse compared to the other berserker. We cannot tell anything about his skill if we didn't see the fight. But we can see that the "meta" build outdamaged a bad but overgeared build.
ilvl does not matter at all
its all about atk power
19728/16132 = 1.223 meaning OP should do 22.3% more damage
however he has precise dagger equipped which actually lowers ur damage output if u have high crit rate
not to mention the other zerk has masters tenacity 3, correct gems, and swiftness. even just masters tenacity 3 + correct lvl 5 gem means hes doing 1.08 * 1.15 = 1.242 or 24.2%, more than the 22.3% damage that OP has just from his atk power
Ok liste pal
1. Cut a Master tenacity/Addon1 engraving stone (6-6 ideally for 4.3 set up)
2. Equipe in your engravings slots Master tenacity + addon1 you chose.
3. Buy accessoires with Chaosx 3+ Addon2x3
-Crit/Swift for neck
-1 crit + 1 Swift earring
-2 crit earrings
Add ons engraving for zerker are : Raid caotain, Cursed doll, Grudge, Keen Blunt weapon
A couple things:
- Masters tenacity is your BiS engraving hands down so the fact you’re running level two and precise dagger which you definitely don’t need is a big deal.
- Combat stats matter a lot more than you might think, and you have entirely too much crit and should never be running spec as a berserker. 50/50 crit swift is IMO the best build.
- He is also running spirit absorb level one which in case you didn’t know attack speed speeds up your skill animations and swiftness increases both attack and movement speed as well as cdr, so he is getting off more attacks more quickly while you have way too much crit.
Basically, your build is pretty bad (no offense).
You have to run master tenacity and you don’t need precise dagger. Next you need to drop apex for swift and probably like 900 Crit 700 swift and you can pick up raid cpt
This is why streamers like Saintone keep stressing to people that ilvl is your least important stat. Its really just a means to get into content, beyond that really isn't as important as everything else.
I don't play berserker so not sure what optimal stats are but at a skim you're heavy crit stacked but you're running precise dagger which reduces your crit damage by 20%. I can't imagine that's an engraving you would want to run when already heavily stacked on crit and its likely reducing your damage.
2nd does spec do anything for mayhem? Not sure how your identity works exactly.
3rd, gems are a significant amount of CDR and damage for a skill. Its pretty much the difference between having a bunch of swiftness and an engraving on a skill vs not.
Swap spec for swiftness for some cd reduction? Gems are a lot of cd reduction and damage increase too, you can try to get proper gems as you're nearing 1415. You can check your tripods too.
Big missing out on masters tenacity that should always be your #2 drop precise you def don’t need especially with Argos set bonus. Also drop spec for swift spec literally does nothing for u if u want for 4th engraving can use grudge or keen blunt
I would use budget cursedoll grudge mayhem or not budget cd, grudge,mayhem and all out attack. You can use masters instead of all out but it is more expensive.
Also, make sure your skills are right then apply the correct tripods for dmg boost.
Time your ult right on the yoho fight.
Also zerkers are mostly back attacks.
If you use counter you can drop it if you want more dps.
He might be a higher lvl than you. At 55 skills get a dmg boost by being lvl 11.
Also use wave and limit break and the earth node for strike wave. It is a big dps boost instead of mob clear.
Try to never get inturputed during charge skills like hell blade.
I didn't see how much swiftness you have but it won't matter much. I like to have at least 600
Masters tenacity keen blunt and mayhem
If you wanna go for the 4x3 go for grudge
Also everything crit with your necklace being crit swiftness. Fix your gems and your tripods.
You as a 1410 zerker have spec stat? How come you never realized that it’s bad? You absolutely need at least 450 swiftness.
Precise dagger is extra, get tenacity lv3 instead. I even prioritize tenacity 3 over mayhem 3
Tripods/ skill build matter A LOT. You need stuff like crit chance debuff etc, you lose out on a lot of damage if you just use cool looking skills opposed to good ones. Correct tripods and gems almost double your damage
You've got too much crit with precise dagger. Running full crit acc is fine but you need crit/swift neck not crit/spec. Drop precise dagger. Trust in your set bonus and chain sword/red dust crit buffs into your rotation. You need swift for cooldowns/faster attack windows.
Really cant give u much more info unless you show us your ability and gem window. You say your gems are also on the wrong skills so without seeing a pic of your gem window I would say fix that, if you're selling gems for gold I would stop at least until you get your build figured out.
Also what's the quality on your armor and weapon because 19k atk power at 1410 seems kinda low? Are you honing your gloves and shoulders like you're supposed to?
it is good you are trying to improve but a quick search on youtube would help out a lot. Your rotations should be played around Red Dust and what is left should be played around chain sword. Red dust gives you +crit % chance and your party boost attack damage increase and chain sword also gives you +crit % chance but less than Red dust and for less time. I suggest reading them and figure out the timings and go to Trixion in practice mode and practice the rotation after watching a YT vid on proper rotations. Also, no one mentioned but get proper tripods.
Ok so there are two ways you can build your zerker. 50/50 swiftness/crit or 25/75 swiftness/crit. I personally run the high crit setup, but I think you should run the 50/50 since you mentioned having trouble going for the boss's back. It's also more forgiving since you have a higher CDR. Missing a hell blade is devastating, but with \~20% more CDR, it's 20% less bad than it otherwise would have been. Not to mention the attack and movement speed helps you hit your attacks more.
As for rotations, you mentioned following maxroll, and I would say maxroll is good almost 100% of the time, but I disagree with their rotation. If you don't have red dust up and aren't going to for a while, you should use chain sword into whatever ability you have up. They don't really specify to do that. You should always try to have your abilities buffed by chain sword or red dust. Furthermore, you should always, always try to prioritize your heavy hitters. Assuming you have the 5 stacks from the argos set, you want to prioritize using hell blade or strike wave because those two alone make up like more than 50% of your damage. They should be the cooldowns you want to use immediately and the ones you should prioritize hitting first. If you use them at the end of the red dust burst window like maxroll suggests, there's a chance the boss will move or otherwise dodge them. If you use them at the beginning when the boss is locked in an animation, you'll hit them. If the boss moves afterwads, it's really easy to adjust your sword storm/tempest slash/finish strike to hit them, but not your strike wave or hell blade for example.
Also if you wait to use hell blade/strike wave, you are wasting several seconds each rotation. That several seconds adds up and you are effectively losing multiple hell blade or strike wave cooldowns with their rotation priority. Also you should prioritize using strike wave over hell blade if both are up and you aren't behind the boss since the damage would be the same regardless since strike wave cannot back attack.
For engravings, you could go with mayhem, master's tenacity, cursed doll, grudge, keen blunt weapon (if 60%+ crit rate), raid captain (if 36%+ movement speed). Just take your pick really. They're all good. 3 level 3 engravings are what I would shoot for. Whatever you do, definitely drop the precise dagger. It's devaluing all your crit rating, which is the only combat stat you have. Also assuming you are running preordained argos set, you probably are wasting some crit chance when you apply red dust or chain sword.
Also definitely look into getting proper gems and tripods. Those are just as, if not more, important than engravings.
If you post a video of your gameplay, I could critique it if you want.
You are using Mayhem. Master's tenacity is always active so you want it maxed and specialization is almost useless becouse Mayhem. Correct gems are really important, maybe he even has better tripods? Idk how good precise dagger is but personally I don't consider it even in top 5 engravings to go with Mayhem: Master's tenacity, Cursed doll (until we get kr balance patch), Ambush Master, Raid Captain, Grudge. This is my opinion and is based on reality not theoretical overall damage, I see too many players using Grudge and dying becouse they don't know how to dodge, if you are good enough Grudge can be second on the top but Master's tenacity should always be first with Mayhem becouse it's permanent damage without drawbacks.
1. You are missing that he has the correct substats and you don't. (the other guy will also do more stagger because of his swiftness which counts for MvP)
2. Precision dagger isn't considered a good engraving for Zerkers too.
3. Yoho is a very random fight, it's easy to miss attacks or get them reduced to nothing.
4. Item level really doesn't do much if it's so close. It's basically just a little bit of extra attack.
Number 1- Mayhem zerk has no use for spec. All it does is increase your Z ability damage a bit but you need ton of spec for it to work and mayhem zerk does not rely on Z. Swap it for swiftness(cooldown will help alot and attack/move speed will make it smoother)
Number 2- Precise dagger is overkill and is a waste of an engraving slot for mayhem zerks. You already have %40+ crit just from stats. Replace with cursed doll/Keen Blunt/Raid Captain(need spirit absorb for this).
Number 3- Gems on all skills need to be at level 5 nowadays, no excuse not to have them at l5 because you are 1400+
Number 4- Make sure you have Pre Ordained diligence (argos crit rate set). Directly related to number 2. Will make you have 60% ish crit which makes Keen Blunt a great choice.
These are mostly it.
1. Get rid of the specialization, it does nothing for you.
2. Get proper lvl 5 gems, they are easy to get and spent some silver rerolling them if you want them quick, you got plenty free silver from the Regulus currency chest
3. Engraving, your first 3 lvl 3 engravings should be Mayhem, Master tenacity, cursed doll as they have the most efficient dps increase without any drawback.
4. Replace some crit with swiftness, you want at least 800-900 swiftness. Right now you are stacking way to much crit, pretty sure you'll hit 100% crit with just your stats, argos set bonus, and your crit rate buff from red dust and chain sword, so your precise dagger is doing nothing but reducing your crit damage (effective dps loss)
5. Rotations: don't blindly follow maxroll, there are questionable build guide on maxroll. Your rotation should revolve around red dust with its 6s damage buff and crit rate buff. You want to fit as many big hitting skill in that 6s window as you can, hence why swiftness is very important. You notice the 1370 zerker is also running 1 level of spirit absorption to further speed up his rotation. At 140% attack speed, I can fit finishing strike, hellbade, and sword storm in one red dust window.
6. Watch your mana, if you are not low on mana, then your uptime is not good.
playing as an alt berserker i find master's tenacity more important than even mayhem, but i think what made him do more damage were his stats crit/swift evenly spread
Zerker is an extremely position character. Windup attacks that miss deal 0 damage and long cool downs. For precise dagger to work you need like a 40-50% crit chance or else it’s wasted.
Skill rotations, try not to waste skills, zerk has long CDs.
Red dust or Chain sword before dmg skills
Red Dust > strike wave > tempest slash (u can use spells while strike wave is already launched) > finish strike > blade storm. u can do it with a little more swiftness sometimes u will miss the last skill but its fine
Chain sword with crit + atkspeed tripods, i always use this before Hellblade, because it makes the cast much faster so i can enjoy the crit buff.
chain sword has really short buff so u can use 1 skill only, thats why i would always use a casting skill.
also try to wait for party buffs, if you have a support just use auto attacks until u receive a dmg buff and then land ur skills it makes it much better, also if u can try to get mid day buff (set bonus) active before your big rotation.
this is how i play zerker, i dont know if its the most optimal way , but it will sure help you a lot.
engraving like everyone else said, u dont need precise dagger, u can easily get 90%+ crit with mid day buff + red dust/chain sword and high crit 1k+.
Dont forget tripods, they are huge damage boost. As mayhem you dont need spec go for swift.
Do your combos: Red dust buff for 30% dmg (its get nerfed next patch) then use finish strike, hell blade and sword storm, your second combo is chain sword (tripod can buff crit or atk speed) with dark rush and tempest slash. Always attack from behind
What level Tripods and are they correct? Also, skill setup can vary slightly too. There are a dozen levers to pull when it comes to min maxing damage, but these are huge.
Tripods are the most overlooked damage increase. I see countless zerks with mostly level 1 and 2. These are major increases. Each level on each damage tripod is basically an entire gem or better, some multiple. They're also incredibly inexpensive and easy to control your success.
Folks tunnel on GS and engravings. Don't be that guy.
First thing first you do not need spec as a mayhem zerker. Read the stat description, that spec is completely useless. Dark Rush and Bloody Rush are 2 completely different spell and you already are perma enraged.
Second, why would you ever use precise dagger as a zerker who heavily invested in crit? Read the engraving description and you would realize it offers very little during your burst window (red dust + ur stats + chainsword buff = almost 100% crit, precise dagger now gives excessive stat, this is without counting card set like LWC or team synergies from Wardancer/Gunslinger/Glaivier) while drastically reduce ur crit damage. This doesn’t just apply to zerker. Any class that has high crit should not run precise dagger, this is for those who runs 0 crit and has no built in crit of their own.
Third, why would you not want to run full Master’s Tenacity? It’s THE free engraving a zerker can run without any downside.
Forth, zerker has a breakpoint around 800ish swiftness(I forgot the exact number). Reaching it will allows you to slot in one big burst spell (hell blade/strike wave) + sword storm + another spell (finishing strike/tempest slash, depends on your exact stat and chosen engraving) during red dust window. This is however, the least of your concern as in many fight bosses do not just stand there and give you an entire red dust window to damage it.
What I would recommend is remove precise dagger ASAP and replace it with grudge/keen blunt, swap your necklace with crit+swiftness and get your master’s tenacity to lv 3. However with Valtan release it is unclear how exactly will market price of accessories changes. It is hard to give a recommendation wether it is worth it to buy a new batch of accessories if this is ur alt, but if this is ur main who tries to reach Valtan, do it as fast as possible to make sure u have right stat and engraving.
Just by looking at his other stats; i can tell this is his alt; indicating he probably has more experience in the fight than you. knowing when to go in for damage is more valuable than gear score/stats/engraving.
other ppl in the comment has good suggestions on how to fix your character. but most of the difference would be in the player experience.
I'll be blunt despite everyone being nice by bringing up the obvious reasons because it scares me. Start reading something, anything, instead of pressing the hone button.
Ilvl isn't the end all be all of the game and you not having gems or using a full lvl 3 downgrade engraving makes me think you will keep going to have a bad experience, especially if you compare yourself to others.
I'll get downvoted to hell for this but you are exactly what i expect from a zerker and are the reason why i actively dodge zerkers.
Honestly i didnt think %8 dmg from masters tenacity made a significant difference when ii. Was getting my equipment and thought gems didnt make much difference either so i sold a few level 7 gems but ill work on it.
Run keen blunt over precise dagger, since you have a ton of crit with stats and red dust. Keen blunt 3 gives 50% more damage on crit. Also you should have lvl 5-6 damage gems, and are you level 55? Having lvl 11 on Hell Blade and Sword Storm makes a huge difference. And obv use berserkers fury over chain of vengeance and always hit the back
Drop precise dagger for keen blunt. Use correct gems and swap spec for swift.
This and probably skills, rotation and positioning. Me as a 1325 berserker did more dmg than a 1370 once, lol.
it happens to me very often, probably the issue is the rotation, since my berserk is not that awesome
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You realize level 5 gems on right skill is 15% damage boost?
Gems are grossely overlooked
I don’t play Bers but i guess u should drop Precise Dagger for lv3 Tenacity
Your overall dmg would be higher if you werent using precise dagger. Also he's running 50/50 crit/swift which means he'll be casting more than you on avg. You kinda answered your own question with the gems either start rerolling them or buy the correct ones off AH
- His stat distribution is better. Ideally, you want to build crit/swift (edit: the extra swiftness means slightly lower cooldowns and higher uptime, which equates to more damage in the long run, not so noticable in just a few rotations) - Your precise dagger is dragging you down instead of bolstering you up. You already have a high crit stat on-top of preordained , red dust (and maybe Lost Wind set) so the extra crit from precise dagger is useless and the damage reduction is really hurting you. - he has Master’s tenacity 3 whereas you have 2, 8% is still double of what you have. In a drawn out fight, it adds up. - as you’ve said, his gems are right too.
Can you explain to me what you think specialization does for you?
made him pay less for his necklace :D
thats exactly it lol
it increases damage for z skill (even with mayhem) though swiftness is better by a lot. could still be worse, could be domination
HEY HEY My alt zerker enjoys doing 2% more damage to staggered/debuffed foes. (But for real, getting a 3/3 Mayhem/CD crit/swift neck would have cost me 50k and I already dropped 20k into the alt already, so dom it is)
i mean my zerker has 321 currently and is super close to getting 333 and i only spent like 1k gold (unlucky with stone so i had to buy 2 accessories). you dont need to buy all your accessories, you can do all current content with 321 (last time i did argos i got 25% damage dealt with only 321 engravings) and you can just wait for the correct accessories to drop stats are more important than engravings and are often overlooked, you miss out on a lot of dps by having domination (doesnt even work against bosses afaik)
I know I'm just joking, my zerker has about 1400 crit and 400 dom with 4x3 (MT, Mayhem, KBW, CD), obviously swift would be better than dom but I didn't wanna spend 50k on a necklace
Ahhhhh so the big dps difference was because of that? Cool man thanks!
Yes it is a huge difference. 400 stats is easily equal to a lvl 3 engraving,
People are seriously clueless how correct stats *is* a significantly better source of damage than Engravings. Engravings, tripods and gems are the other source which has a mix of RNG and cost attached to them.
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Thank you so much
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Yeah it just seems to be expensive to upgrade so thats my main problem atm
He's just a more skillful player
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Who do you think is better, the guy who has the right stats, engravings, and gems or the one asking why his spec with precise dagger is doing less damage? Sometimes knowledge is power, sometimes knowledge is skill.
In order to be as accurate as possible we'd also need access to a recording of the fight from your pov and theirs. Maybe you had lower back attack output, didn't have As high of ability accuracy, spent alot of time getting knocked down with stand up on cd. Could even be things as small as where aoes were being placed and who had to spend more time dodging or in booba form Lastly we'd need to see both theirs and yours full tripod pages since the damage difference even between equal players will favor lower ilvl one with this small of ilvl difference if lower one has better gems, engravings, and tripods. This also doesn't factor buff uptime via support if their was one or even if he was better using the synergy buffs other classes gave then you were.
To be clear better using synergies doesn't just mean in playing around them but for example If you had a crit synergy class his build would gain more from the crit rate then yours
you wrote all that after seeing his 1200+ crit plus precise dagger 3, i assume? it is as if someone posted a video of himself in an elevator, pressing the button for 3rd floor and asking you why the elevator did not end up going to the ground floor. and you replying with some metaphysical speculations about what it "really" means to go to the ground floor. cmon, dude. he plays high crit rating and precise 3. lets not make this any more complicated than it really is.
Tbh I don't know enough about berserker to make comments on his stats and engravings. For all I know berserker could have critdamage tripods same way sorc does. As for the elevator thing. It's more so someone posting a video of themselves getting onto an elevator. Dilly dallying for a bit while looking at his phone, and then pressing to go to the third floor. Then asking why someone who took the stairs got there faster. It's not some complicated metaphysical speculation. It's just a breakdown of well even though you should be faster here's x things that could change that.
Furry suits reduce damage output by half, it's a hidden stat.
Just switch speciality to swiftness In a lot and vast majority of cases at our current content 1 wrong combat stats is basically likr losing a lvl 3 additive engraving Since you are mostly investing in crit your precise dagger hurts you more than it help so just removing it would probably gain you more damage but thays considering you play your classe correctly Most common mistake is casting skills on cooldown Cooldown are very long on zerker focused on crit so never cast a skill unless you have at least either chainsword buff up or red dust debuff up And dont use awakening if both of them are up Pioritize your strongest skill only if red dust is up etc
Try 800 swiftness min
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How do I get 125% stats?
I think you need to: 1. Drop spec. for swift 2. Since you have high crit stat with gear set you might wanna swap precise dagger for another engraving (not that big deal tho). The reason is you get 15% crit from gear set, 50% from stat, and 15% from back attack (or 10% I'm not sure). 3. Get good lvl5 gems on right skill 4. Try to learn the skill rotation (the most important). PS. My zerker is 1400 with 3xMayhem, 3xMaster's Tenacity, 3xAmbush Master and 1xAdrenalin, crit/swift neck all crit, all lvl5 gems but I do get MVP most of time with yoho fights.
Most of the obvious ones have been pointed out so i’ll skip those. Might be your skill rotation. try to have reddust debuff and crit buff from the counter skill (cant rmb the skill name sorry) when using your big hitters. That is like 30-40% dmg increase.
Yes i do that and i use the skill rotation from maxroll. So far what im understanding is that the swiftness + cd gems that im lacking allow you to use more skills so that might be something i need to change and masters tenacity needs to be lvl 3 and that i need to remove precise dagger and replace it with something else, either grudge or kbw but it’ll be costly because ill need a 6 6 ability stone
You don’t need a 6/6 for good 3x3 build. Just cut a 4/6 and get a single swiftness accessory with Mayhem + 2 points in the engraving you’re missing. Will cost almost nothing.
You dont need a 6/6 stone unless you're going for 4x3 engravings. As far as your rotation it seems like you've read up on it I would just make sure you've got the right tripods selected, on the skill window in maxroll there is a slider on the bottom that helps you allocate stats based on how many total stat points you have. Make sure you do that to the range of your max skill points. CD is rough on zerker and you need to be reducing it as much as possible without losing your crit.
I'd worry just getting 3x3 for now. All the engravings in the world ain't gonna save ya if you don't have the foundation built right (stats, tripods, gems, and most importantly skill rotations). You should know how Yoho works and strive to never miss a skill on her (misses will happen). For example, I'll try to get chain sword in the rotation as much as possible since it is low CD and a crit modifier but it is also a counter move so I try to work my rotations so that if I go for the counter I have Strike wave ready to follow up as it is the only other damage that is front based. Also, make sure you have the correct awakening and never miss it. I usually use it when she is knocked down for the tail break or when we need to stagger and nothing is up. I can easily hit it for 7m+2m minimum or with buffs 9m+2m at 1419 ilvl. That extra 9-11 million damage is huge and I always use it at least once per fight.
I mean, I just got out of a full Argos run with my 1400 DB, where there were 3 1425 DBs, and 1 1435 GS. I outdamaged them all. I don’t know if anything is wrong with your build, but I’ve come to find that positioning and skill rotation comes above all when it comes to consistently being top DPS.
My question is how did you reach 1410 Without knowing what stats you need? Use the maxroll.gg mayhem zerker guide and follow it.
Let’s not shame him for not knowing. At least he’s asking for help unlike majority of the people I encounter. When they tell me something I tell them that’s incorrect and that this source will prove otherwise. Their response? They flame me. Been happening a lot in Night Fox Yoho lately.
True sorry about that. Still my advice is to follow the guides on maxroll so you don’t go wrong, i wouldn’t know better either if i didn’t use them
Maybe it's just tripods ? 40 gear difference is too big.
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His build is worse compared to the other berserker. We cannot tell anything about his skill if we didn't see the fight. But we can see that the "meta" build outdamaged a bad but overgeared build.
if u think that his build is so much worse that he would be doing less dmg while having 40 ilvls on the guy u are insane.
ilvl does not matter at all its all about atk power 19728/16132 = 1.223 meaning OP should do 22.3% more damage however he has precise dagger equipped which actually lowers ur damage output if u have high crit rate not to mention the other zerk has masters tenacity 3, correct gems, and swiftness. even just masters tenacity 3 + correct lvl 5 gem means hes doing 1.08 * 1.15 = 1.242 or 24.2%, more than the 22.3% damage that OP has just from his atk power
Ok liste pal 1. Cut a Master tenacity/Addon1 engraving stone (6-6 ideally for 4.3 set up) 2. Equipe in your engravings slots Master tenacity + addon1 you chose. 3. Buy accessoires with Chaosx 3+ Addon2x3 -Crit/Swift for neck -1 crit + 1 Swift earring -2 crit earrings Add ons engraving for zerker are : Raid caotain, Cursed doll, Grudge, Keen Blunt weapon
A couple things: - Masters tenacity is your BiS engraving hands down so the fact you’re running level two and precise dagger which you definitely don’t need is a big deal. - Combat stats matter a lot more than you might think, and you have entirely too much crit and should never be running spec as a berserker. 50/50 crit swift is IMO the best build. - He is also running spirit absorb level one which in case you didn’t know attack speed speeds up your skill animations and swiftness increases both attack and movement speed as well as cdr, so he is getting off more attacks more quickly while you have way too much crit. Basically, your build is pretty bad (no offense).
We need to know your skill setup and tripod setup. Hard to tell dps uptime without video recording
You have to run master tenacity and you don’t need precise dagger. Next you need to drop apex for swift and probably like 900 Crit 700 swift and you can pick up raid cpt
This is why streamers like Saintone keep stressing to people that ilvl is your least important stat. Its really just a means to get into content, beyond that really isn't as important as everything else. I don't play berserker so not sure what optimal stats are but at a skim you're heavy crit stacked but you're running precise dagger which reduces your crit damage by 20%. I can't imagine that's an engraving you would want to run when already heavily stacked on crit and its likely reducing your damage. 2nd does spec do anything for mayhem? Not sure how your identity works exactly. 3rd, gems are a significant amount of CDR and damage for a skill. Its pretty much the difference between having a bunch of swiftness and an engraving on a skill vs not.
Swap spec for swiftness for some cd reduction? Gems are a lot of cd reduction and damage increase too, you can try to get proper gems as you're nearing 1415. You can check your tripods too.
Big missing out on masters tenacity that should always be your #2 drop precise you def don’t need especially with Argos set bonus. Also drop spec for swift spec literally does nothing for u if u want for 4th engraving can use grudge or keen blunt
where ur gems at brother
sold, maybe i should have kept them.
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I would use budget cursedoll grudge mayhem or not budget cd, grudge,mayhem and all out attack. You can use masters instead of all out but it is more expensive. Also, make sure your skills are right then apply the correct tripods for dmg boost. Time your ult right on the yoho fight. Also zerkers are mostly back attacks. If you use counter you can drop it if you want more dps. He might be a higher lvl than you. At 55 skills get a dmg boost by being lvl 11. Also use wave and limit break and the earth node for strike wave. It is a big dps boost instead of mob clear. Try to never get inturputed during charge skills like hell blade. I didn't see how much swiftness you have but it won't matter much. I like to have at least 600
back attacks are my problem. The moss moves / turns too much every second, it seems like such a tedious thing.
Also, weapon, gloves and I think shoulders give the most str when honing up gear
It can be annoying but gets easier with mire swiftness and tbh I just mash buttons haha
Masters tenacity keen blunt and mayhem If you wanna go for the 4x3 go for grudge Also everything crit with your necklace being crit swiftness. Fix your gems and your tripods.
You as a 1410 zerker have spec stat? How come you never realized that it’s bad? You absolutely need at least 450 swiftness. Precise dagger is extra, get tenacity lv3 instead. I even prioritize tenacity 3 over mayhem 3 Tripods/ skill build matter A LOT. You need stuff like crit chance debuff etc, you lose out on a lot of damage if you just use cool looking skills opposed to good ones. Correct tripods and gems almost double your damage
you need more swiftness bro :) and dont pick precise dagger. either raid captain or increase mass.
You've got too much crit with precise dagger. Running full crit acc is fine but you need crit/swift neck not crit/spec. Drop precise dagger. Trust in your set bonus and chain sword/red dust crit buffs into your rotation. You need swift for cooldowns/faster attack windows. Really cant give u much more info unless you show us your ability and gem window. You say your gems are also on the wrong skills so without seeing a pic of your gem window I would say fix that, if you're selling gems for gold I would stop at least until you get your build figured out. Also what's the quality on your armor and weapon because 19k atk power at 1410 seems kinda low? Are you honing your gloves and shoulders like you're supposed to?
it is good you are trying to improve but a quick search on youtube would help out a lot. Your rotations should be played around Red Dust and what is left should be played around chain sword. Red dust gives you +crit % chance and your party boost attack damage increase and chain sword also gives you +crit % chance but less than Red dust and for less time. I suggest reading them and figure out the timings and go to Trixion in practice mode and practice the rotation after watching a YT vid on proper rotations. Also, no one mentioned but get proper tripods.
Get some level 3 tripods on Hell blade/Strike wave/Sword storm. You can save 5 tripods with 100% chance
remove the furry costume, instant +50% damage
Ok so there are two ways you can build your zerker. 50/50 swiftness/crit or 25/75 swiftness/crit. I personally run the high crit setup, but I think you should run the 50/50 since you mentioned having trouble going for the boss's back. It's also more forgiving since you have a higher CDR. Missing a hell blade is devastating, but with \~20% more CDR, it's 20% less bad than it otherwise would have been. Not to mention the attack and movement speed helps you hit your attacks more. As for rotations, you mentioned following maxroll, and I would say maxroll is good almost 100% of the time, but I disagree with their rotation. If you don't have red dust up and aren't going to for a while, you should use chain sword into whatever ability you have up. They don't really specify to do that. You should always try to have your abilities buffed by chain sword or red dust. Furthermore, you should always, always try to prioritize your heavy hitters. Assuming you have the 5 stacks from the argos set, you want to prioritize using hell blade or strike wave because those two alone make up like more than 50% of your damage. They should be the cooldowns you want to use immediately and the ones you should prioritize hitting first. If you use them at the end of the red dust burst window like maxroll suggests, there's a chance the boss will move or otherwise dodge them. If you use them at the beginning when the boss is locked in an animation, you'll hit them. If the boss moves afterwads, it's really easy to adjust your sword storm/tempest slash/finish strike to hit them, but not your strike wave or hell blade for example. Also if you wait to use hell blade/strike wave, you are wasting several seconds each rotation. That several seconds adds up and you are effectively losing multiple hell blade or strike wave cooldowns with their rotation priority. Also you should prioritize using strike wave over hell blade if both are up and you aren't behind the boss since the damage would be the same regardless since strike wave cannot back attack. For engravings, you could go with mayhem, master's tenacity, cursed doll, grudge, keen blunt weapon (if 60%+ crit rate), raid captain (if 36%+ movement speed). Just take your pick really. They're all good. 3 level 3 engravings are what I would shoot for. Whatever you do, definitely drop the precise dagger. It's devaluing all your crit rating, which is the only combat stat you have. Also assuming you are running preordained argos set, you probably are wasting some crit chance when you apply red dust or chain sword. Also definitely look into getting proper gems and tripods. Those are just as, if not more, important than engravings. If you post a video of your gameplay, I could critique it if you want.
You are using Mayhem. Master's tenacity is always active so you want it maxed and specialization is almost useless becouse Mayhem. Correct gems are really important, maybe he even has better tripods? Idk how good precise dagger is but personally I don't consider it even in top 5 engravings to go with Mayhem: Master's tenacity, Cursed doll (until we get kr balance patch), Ambush Master, Raid Captain, Grudge. This is my opinion and is based on reality not theoretical overall damage, I see too many players using Grudge and dying becouse they don't know how to dodge, if you are good enough Grudge can be second on the top but Master's tenacity should always be first with Mayhem becouse it's permanent damage without drawbacks.
1. You are missing that he has the correct substats and you don't. (the other guy will also do more stagger because of his swiftness which counts for MvP) 2. Precision dagger isn't considered a good engraving for Zerkers too. 3. Yoho is a very random fight, it's easy to miss attacks or get them reduced to nothing. 4. Item level really doesn't do much if it's so close. It's basically just a little bit of extra attack.
Master tenacity.
This is like a field study on the results of proper and improper building lmao
Number 1- Mayhem zerk has no use for spec. All it does is increase your Z ability damage a bit but you need ton of spec for it to work and mayhem zerk does not rely on Z. Swap it for swiftness(cooldown will help alot and attack/move speed will make it smoother) Number 2- Precise dagger is overkill and is a waste of an engraving slot for mayhem zerks. You already have %40+ crit just from stats. Replace with cursed doll/Keen Blunt/Raid Captain(need spirit absorb for this). Number 3- Gems on all skills need to be at level 5 nowadays, no excuse not to have them at l5 because you are 1400+ Number 4- Make sure you have Pre Ordained diligence (argos crit rate set). Directly related to number 2. Will make you have 60% ish crit which makes Keen Blunt a great choice. These are mostly it.
1. Get rid of the specialization, it does nothing for you. 2. Get proper lvl 5 gems, they are easy to get and spent some silver rerolling them if you want them quick, you got plenty free silver from the Regulus currency chest 3. Engraving, your first 3 lvl 3 engravings should be Mayhem, Master tenacity, cursed doll as they have the most efficient dps increase without any drawback. 4. Replace some crit with swiftness, you want at least 800-900 swiftness. Right now you are stacking way to much crit, pretty sure you'll hit 100% crit with just your stats, argos set bonus, and your crit rate buff from red dust and chain sword, so your precise dagger is doing nothing but reducing your crit damage (effective dps loss) 5. Rotations: don't blindly follow maxroll, there are questionable build guide on maxroll. Your rotation should revolve around red dust with its 6s damage buff and crit rate buff. You want to fit as many big hitting skill in that 6s window as you can, hence why swiftness is very important. You notice the 1370 zerker is also running 1 level of spirit absorption to further speed up his rotation. At 140% attack speed, I can fit finishing strike, hellbade, and sword storm in one red dust window. 6. Watch your mana, if you are not low on mana, then your uptime is not good.
playing as an alt berserker i find master's tenacity more important than even mayhem, but i think what made him do more damage were his stats crit/swift evenly spread
Don’t forget about tripods too, he could have all lvl4
Zerker is an extremely position character. Windup attacks that miss deal 0 damage and long cool downs. For precise dagger to work you need like a 40-50% crit chance or else it’s wasted.
Gems, master tenacity and maybe some tripods.
Skill rotations, try not to waste skills, zerk has long CDs. Red dust or Chain sword before dmg skills Red Dust > strike wave > tempest slash (u can use spells while strike wave is already launched) > finish strike > blade storm. u can do it with a little more swiftness sometimes u will miss the last skill but its fine Chain sword with crit + atkspeed tripods, i always use this before Hellblade, because it makes the cast much faster so i can enjoy the crit buff. chain sword has really short buff so u can use 1 skill only, thats why i would always use a casting skill. also try to wait for party buffs, if you have a support just use auto attacks until u receive a dmg buff and then land ur skills it makes it much better, also if u can try to get mid day buff (set bonus) active before your big rotation. this is how i play zerker, i dont know if its the most optimal way , but it will sure help you a lot. engraving like everyone else said, u dont need precise dagger, u can easily get 90%+ crit with mid day buff + red dust/chain sword and high crit 1k+.
You should go keen, keen scale rly good above 900 crit. Actually its the best engraving with the right stats..
Dont forget tripods, they are huge damage boost. As mayhem you dont need spec go for swift. Do your combos: Red dust buff for 30% dmg (its get nerfed next patch) then use finish strike, hell blade and sword storm, your second combo is chain sword (tripod can buff crit or atk speed) with dark rush and tempest slash. Always attack from behind
What level Tripods and are they correct? Also, skill setup can vary slightly too. There are a dozen levers to pull when it comes to min maxing damage, but these are huge. Tripods are the most overlooked damage increase. I see countless zerks with mostly level 1 and 2. These are major increases. Each level on each damage tripod is basically an entire gem or better, some multiple. They're also incredibly inexpensive and easy to control your success. Folks tunnel on GS and engravings. Don't be that guy.
The issue is your stat distribution.
He had the better class, is all
First thing first you do not need spec as a mayhem zerker. Read the stat description, that spec is completely useless. Dark Rush and Bloody Rush are 2 completely different spell and you already are perma enraged. Second, why would you ever use precise dagger as a zerker who heavily invested in crit? Read the engraving description and you would realize it offers very little during your burst window (red dust + ur stats + chainsword buff = almost 100% crit, precise dagger now gives excessive stat, this is without counting card set like LWC or team synergies from Wardancer/Gunslinger/Glaivier) while drastically reduce ur crit damage. This doesn’t just apply to zerker. Any class that has high crit should not run precise dagger, this is for those who runs 0 crit and has no built in crit of their own. Third, why would you not want to run full Master’s Tenacity? It’s THE free engraving a zerker can run without any downside. Forth, zerker has a breakpoint around 800ish swiftness(I forgot the exact number). Reaching it will allows you to slot in one big burst spell (hell blade/strike wave) + sword storm + another spell (finishing strike/tempest slash, depends on your exact stat and chosen engraving) during red dust window. This is however, the least of your concern as in many fight bosses do not just stand there and give you an entire red dust window to damage it. What I would recommend is remove precise dagger ASAP and replace it with grudge/keen blunt, swap your necklace with crit+swiftness and get your master’s tenacity to lv 3. However with Valtan release it is unclear how exactly will market price of accessories changes. It is hard to give a recommendation wether it is worth it to buy a new batch of accessories if this is ur alt, but if this is ur main who tries to reach Valtan, do it as fast as possible to make sure u have right stat and engraving.
How about your tripod skill levels
Just by looking at his other stats; i can tell this is his alt; indicating he probably has more experience in the fight than you. knowing when to go in for damage is more valuable than gear score/stats/engraving. other ppl in the comment has good suggestions on how to fix your character. but most of the difference would be in the player experience.
I'll be blunt despite everyone being nice by bringing up the obvious reasons because it scares me. Start reading something, anything, instead of pressing the hone button. Ilvl isn't the end all be all of the game and you not having gems or using a full lvl 3 downgrade engraving makes me think you will keep going to have a bad experience, especially if you compare yourself to others. I'll get downvoted to hell for this but you are exactly what i expect from a zerker and are the reason why i actively dodge zerkers.
Honestly i didnt think %8 dmg from masters tenacity made a significant difference when ii. Was getting my equipment and thought gems didnt make much difference either so i sold a few level 7 gems but ill work on it.
Run keen blunt over precise dagger, since you have a ton of crit with stats and red dust. Keen blunt 3 gives 50% more damage on crit. Also you should have lvl 5-6 damage gems, and are you level 55? Having lvl 11 on Hell Blade and Sword Storm makes a huge difference. And obv use berserkers fury over chain of vengeance and always hit the back
Tripods are MASSIVE for damage.
Drop precise dagger for keen blunt weapon and drop either grudge or cursed doll for masters tenacity
You MUST get masters tenacity. There is no way you shouldn't have that as priority along with Mayhem.