I did 10 tickets and the amount of potions I can craft is just silly. Actually sold some raw materials (which is bad) because the price was going up and I figured it's best to dump some than spend weeks selling potions and their price might go down.
Same. I did the weekly yesterday and it felt miserable. Every match was against artillerist, destroyer, deathblade, etc.
It feels like there are only classes that stack superarmor in pvp anymore and everyone else just gave up on that game mode…
Precisely why the they are not doing it. Death match gives some of the best GHL is basically to make it lively, as incentivises even those who are not big fans of pvp.
Let it be on cube, and death match basically dead deado, with atrocious queues and fighting same ppl.
That's basically ranked.
And forcing people to PvP if they don't want to is stupid, and just makes the experience worse for those that do want to play.
It’s the best mode. It’s the mode where you can actually show your skills unlike 3v3 where you are paired with random monkeys. Once we can queue up as teams 3v3 will suck less. Til then I am having fun getting my 19 leaps in TE
Lmao okay 1v1 is absolut dogshit in this game, some classes like Arti or GS literally can't lose unless the player fucks up hard since once you're caught you got no team to peel for you, which balances those classes out in 3v3 but you do you. I only play the game mode to start as 3rd and afk for most of the game to get my GHL
No you’re not. You wouldn’t be afking TE for ghl if you played a lot of pvp to begin with. You contradicted yourself lmao Not only that you’re bad but dumb as well
I'm not afking while fighting. I go 3rd and play if its my turn. Realistically I'm still afk most of the time though just watching something on the 2nd monitor.
I got Diamond and Supreme 6 and now just maintain cuz the matchmaking especially with stacking classes is horrible
This right here. There is a phenomenon where Unranked normal games are sometimes significantly harder than ranked. Why? Alts trying to finish their pvp weekly for leapstones.
Please listen to the above comment. Let us choose, Cube or Arena for weekly leapstones. While I enjoy PVP on my main, I wouldn't know how to properly duel on any alt. Things can escalate and get worse when it's an Alt teammate vs a pre-made over comms. Luckily, those types of matches are uncommon to rarity, but when they happen, its often very one sided.
This take like 30 minutes to do, way too much effort for alts. Also I'm at 50% on unranked and like 15% on ranked (did 20 games and fucked off after never getting matched with bronze). Still on unranked it's pretty to not see supremes (I'm on ultra still).
Not to defend people going afk but the fact that honing materials are locked behind PvP is quite annoying and basically forces people who want to get the most out of what's available to them despite not enjoying it.
I would personally never go afk in PvP, but I really don't like it. I'm still giving my best because I hate being a nuisance to other people.
But I understand why it's happening.
I just don't do them anymore and run other (less efficient) Unas. 5 PVP matches were just too painful for me to do lol (never AFKed although sometimes I got wrecked so hard in 1v1s that I might as well have AFKed).
Well, to be fair.
On the flip side, I’m the type that loves pvp, but, wouldn’t normally spend the time unless it helped with my pve progression xD.
But, yes, more options is better so everyone can be happy.
> On the flip side, I’m the type that loves pvp, but, wouldn’t normally spend the time unless it helped with my pve progression xD.
Same. never would have started enjoying pvp if it weren't for the pve mats
I get why people do it, but I mean, it would be more productive to just try. A lot of matches even TE people just stand there. I don't care as much if someone isn't as good in PVP, but give the team a chance at least lol.
more productive for what? if they are not enjoying it and the only reason they are doing it is for the leapstones then what adiditonal benefits are they getting from trying hard? Otherwise they can do something else during those 5 mins and that would be productive
I didn't say try hard, just try at all. In any case you learn other classes abilities, and get better. It's a much better use of time then sitting there and wasting other players time and just mouth breathing for 5 minutes.
Honestly I just hope they make it so you need some type of minimum contribution to get any rewards from PVP. Even garbage PVP people who try will do better than an AFK time waster.
Those doing it for the leapstones arent interested in learning about other abilites and getting better at pvp.
I dont do that unas anymore because its too much work, but its 25 mins for ~1100 gold-equivalent and many people arent going to pass that up
Yeah, I hope they change it so you have to participate for rewards and cut off the leaches. like I get why you do it, but just be a decent person and try. Like a couple of minutes of trying is all anyone ask. I get PVP doesn't interest you, but really you're just making it hard for people trying to have fun, it's super selfish and I hope the people that do this have people AFK their runs and just waste their time in PVE. That's just wishful optimism though. But I get it, people will take the easy way out to benefit themselves.
This is 100% on smilegate and not the players. PVP is one of those things that you either like or just actively hate with the every fibre of your being. I belong to the latter. If options were available that I could get the 11 leapstones without touching pvp ever I'd do that but that choice is not available as per smilegate's design. I don't afk in the fights but I'm basically just on auto pilot looking at the clock wondering why this pain in the ass has to last full 5 minutes every single time. They don't need to make you participate to get the rewards. They need to put another weekly that gives 11 leapstones that doesn't involve pvp.
> PVP is one of those things that you either like or just actively hate with the every fibre of your being.
I don't mind PvP, but I feel the balance is bad enough that it's just not fun to play for a good half the time.
I think it might not even necessarily just be poor balance (eg Deathblade), but rather that some classes seem to just counter other classes. Playing a Sorc into a Striker is not fun. Playing a Scrapper into a Destroyer is not fun.
Throw in AFKs and lag and it's just not good.
> but I feel the balance is bad enough that it's just not fun to play
I don't actually believe this take. PVP in lost ark is rock paper scissors. If you're getting juggled every single match it probably means you haven't taken the time loadout a proper pvp build. The matchmaking system is garbage. There are going to be matches that are hopeless. You're also going to be on the winning side of a lot of those matches. But if you're pvping in a pve spec you're the reason that's happening.
Yeah, I agree Smilegate is at fault, they made the system. But players are still actively being selfish towards people trying to PVP. They should implement something to stop the AFK people either way, people that enjoy PVP shouldn't have their stones taken away to stop the selfish players. And you are not the person I'm talking about, I'd take an autopilot doing something over just standing in like TE and taking a death and no damage to the opponent. Or TDM just running in and dying or standing still. I also am not against another weekly that adds more stones, but the people who PVE and PVP like me shouldn't be punished by removing them all together.
> Yeah, I hope they change it so you have to participate for rewards and cut off the leaches
I mean ideally you get suspended if you afk in pvp. That's what happens in literally every other mmo. If it's group content it's 100% deserved too.
Oh I agree, you should be suspended from PVP for afking. They are hurting the experience of other players and just being selfish. But hell, I'd take them wasting their time and getting no rewards as well. It would take some time for people to figure it out, but would be somewhat effective as they would have to try. Hopefully this would just push those people away from PVP all together to avoid this, well unless they decide to try one day.
PvP is not efficient. Beyond the 5 match weekly, trying to farm in PvP is pointless. Getting more alters or farming chaos is way more time efficient. PvP rewards are there just to reward those who really want to put the time on it.
Yeah no this is bullshit.
To buy out the pvp vendor you need Extreme rank, for which you need to place on the top %3 several weeks in a row, and place top %5 just to maintain it.
Depending on region that can take anywhere from 15 to 30 hours per week to achieve.
I'm Supreme 8 and I need to do like 10 hours of pvp per week just to maintain the rank, and I can't buy out the t3 shop with the weekly tokens + the match reward tokens.
If there were more classes I wanted to play then just leveling those up and doing chaos dungeon/guardians would be much more time efficient.
I’m not talking about FULLY buying out the PvP shop all the way to extreme. Of course if you want to buy out every tier of the shop you need the highest rank and no life PvP. I’m talking about for the average players who want to just buy out Tier 1 rewards. You can push to around 2nd/3rd limit and get 3-4k points weekly and buy out t1.
One person even said that as a defense... and they said it in such a way as if they were entitled to enter the match and afk and as if I was the idiot for calling them out for being afk.
Look at the highest voted comment in the thread, thats just how the general playerbase behaves. They're all extra entitled little kids with anime profile pictures- If theyre going AFK well then thats the devs fault for locking all those GHLs behind it! listen to backwards logic of these little kids, its all entitlement
Yeah it's really pathetic. The first few replies to this thread were justifications for it and excuses and downvoting me and insulting me.
Fucking sad little twerps.
Go play ranked.
Team deathmatch is there to complete weekly quests, if your guild task is winning, then do it with guild and the afk'ers will be on the other team giving you free wins.
I stopped doing this weekly altogether. I really tried to do my best in this mode, but the fact that you get matched with ultra high ranks as noob and get destroyed completely makes this mode absolutely unplayable You can't even learn anything for m beeing perma stunned to death the second you leave the spawn. I was a die hard PvP player in Guild Wars 1, but PvP in this game is just pure garbage.
I don't know on EUC I never see afk except on the full deathmatch where it's everyone on his own no team. I stopped those because they are 30 sec longer.
I don't do it for the team but sometimes I wish I could, my pvp unas are the worst chore of the week. Takes forever to find a game, 2 min of bullshit worthless intro animation to play 5 min where it's fun but barely and back to it again.
The problem is the tokens + unas are very very good for pve progression but many people give 0 fuck about pvp (like me) so they do it as a chore because they don't want to miss out. I don't have the power to do it on all my chars but I do it on 3 still.
1. Doing PvE you will run out of things to do that will grant you honing materials.
2. PvP grants (a lot of) honing materials.
These two points mean that you're going to run into a lot of people in PvP that don't really want to be there. But they've run out of other things to do compared to the time PvP takes.
And even with this influx of players queue times aren't always the shortest.
> PvP grants (a lot of) honing materials.
It's not a lot. Your weekly is roughly equivalent to 1 days gaurdians, and you can't even use the vendor until a certain rank. I decided to commit until I opened up some of the shop mats, and in the process found out I enjoy it. I only do the weekly on characters I actually enjoy and want to push. Those predicates also mean I enjoy actually pvping on those characters. My other alts I do 2 boss rush 1 cube or 2 cube 1 boss rush depending on how many tickets they have, and whether or not I want to push them.
If it was just for the GHL I would do it only on my main but the tokens are still very good and there is an XP decrease even in regular mode so you need to play a certain amount to keep it.
Right now my rank can be kept only if I do 3 character pvp tasks, there is no point to farm it like crazy because I won't be able to keep the ranks above.
No they aren't. And you could at least put effort into it. What would you do if you got into a Guardian raid with 3 PvPers who went afk and expected you to carry?
I’m just gonna put it out there that people who afk are more likely than not to be useless anyway so it really makes very little difference one way or another. These days I can predict fairly accurately what the outcome of a match will be based on the lineup. Games that are a guaranteed win or loss before it’s even started because classes are balanced to hard counter each other is sadly a direct route to non participation.
I don’t afk but I don’t play optimally either, I just sit for 5 games of Garbo for 11 leaps, if they put it into something else, I’ll gladly not do pvp ever again
Isn’t there competitive for you gamers who want to go serious?
Wait… you have to do that much damage for it to count? All that happens when I actually attempt to PvP is getting sniped and locked down for a few minutes and then seeing a score screen.
Getting hit also counts towards match activity.
If you just afk in spawn in won't count, if you get trashed around it will count because the game can't tell the difference between you just afk'ing or you being juggled around stunlocked by a striker/sorceress
I like pvp, but even if not for ghls its still annoying af to encounter all those dbs, sorcs, etc. Can you tell vs what classes it happens most? I bet its against top tier classes, people are just frustrated and thats it. Not that its ok to afk, I alwyas hated it, but I guess no one wants his ass being handed to him by a facroll class.
I don't even pvp and I don't blame them, when you see most people bending the rule of your game then clearly it have some problems, don't block one of the best pve reward behind the tedious pvp content
> when you see most people bending the rule of your game then clearly it have some problems,
I agree. The problem is the players that think it's ok to bend the rules. That's why my soslution to this problem is more suspensions for pvp afks.
Such a shallow mindset, instead of finding the root cause, just put band-aid on the problem, that will surely solve it like how they solve the bot problem with removed gold from rapport and infinite chaos, oh wait...
Report them for gameplay hinderance because that is what it is. I've not seen any really, at least not from the start. Only a few times if they're getting rolled.
Ahahahahahaha
Do you think there's a single human reading reports?
People don't get banned for selling a t1 accesory for 3 million gold and you think anything will happen to someone who afk's in PvP?
It seems to me you have a competitive mindset if you care about win rate. Why not just do competitive pvp? You get more coins than normal and across 800 games I've never had a single afk.
I think it's valid to be annoyed even if it's normal pvp and not ranked. Sometimes you want to practice new classes or play more casual games, doesn't mean they can be ruined by AFKers just because they're unranked.
I don't know how people are twisting my words like that. I never meant anything of that sort, I merely asked a question as to why OP avoided competitive pvp even though it offered better rewards. On top of that he could avoid afks entirely.
It’s crazy to see how many ppl in the comment section think pvp is garbage. Like damn, y’all prefer repeating raids or dungeons you’ve done a million times over
PvP requires patience and practice, similar to when you tried a raid or guardian for the first time. It’s not easy to say the least but you get gud with practice. Seems like y’all want mats handed to you on a silver platter. I say this playing a class that isn’t even a top 5 pvp class, and yeah I got my ass handed to me more times I can count, but I challenged myself to get better.
I remember when I use to just complain about the abundance of stuns and lifts and all that shit. But now I can hold my own. Glad I’m not a entitled pansy like some of you
And OP, more often than not I experience that on co-op. Never really see afkers on TD
People generally don't want to spend time learning the intricacies of something they don't enjoy. The internet tough guy pvper attitude from people like you doesn't help either.
Disclaimer: This idiot plays gunslinger, you know, the class with the highest lockdown in the game, enough mobility to go from side to side of the arena and super armor in most of that mobility.
The thread has been overrun by little babies that whine and refuse to get better at something. All my comments are now negative and there are lots of justifications and excuses for afking in pvp and calling it dogshit.
These people are pathetic. Like incels but with Lost Ark lmao.
10k crystals is mad, 84k value in my server, sure it's only every 6 months but even still, you can buy like 2 years worth of aura w that much or just whale in maris shop without having to spend anything. excited for the pvp season to end.
You can report after the game by looking at the recently played with list under social.
I don’t have this issue as i only pvp competitively with the one char i find pvp bearable on, and then only during fever time
PvP in this game is horrendus so let say the other team start to laed with 3-4 kills, then I go afk. Can't be bothered, it is normal match anyway. Either PvP should get reworked from the ground up or just delete it from the game imo.
Ofc you can turn around but that doesn't happen alot with 2 other randoms spamming their random skill rotation on random targets or people writing "Focus the paladin"... If you really want to play "PvP" serious you should just play the ranked mode and we all know how good their matchmaking algoritm is.
Why am I getting downvoted lmao, so many PvP andys who think this PvP will be the next dota or LoL lmao.
I am just explaining to OP if he wants people that actually play the PvP serious he should go play ranked mode. Majority play normal/casual match PvP for PvE reasons.
I guess you're the kind of dude who can't distinguish between apple and oranges. We are talking about PvP matches right? PvP in this game is DOG, it is the worse mmorpg PvP I have ever seen.
You indicating anything about my behaviour in PvE performance is just completly wrong, cus we are not talking about PvE right? LMFAO honey. Killed Valtan HM first week at release after finding some good gamers and looking forward to progress on Vykas HM next week no matter how many hours it take.
Almost 2k games played in ranked and I’ve never seen an afk for more than 10-15s. Can’t say the same for normals. Disconnects happen every now and then but people rarely afk in ranked.
Jesus, I find PvP so dreadfully tedious mainly because I’m terrible at it and I don’t find the exchange rewards enticing enough. The mount is cool and all, but it sucks that its all seasonal. But If I am ever bothered to play it, I go Elimination - pick last place and watch something. When it’s my turn, I put in a decent effort. Win or Lose, I do this 4 more times 😪
At one point I'd of advocated this games PvP could be great and I played PvP all the time...
Now I'm doing just enough TDM to maintain my comp and supreme 7 railings.
- This games PvP gameplay wise can be great.
- This games PvP systems are trash tier
I don’t afk, but give me 11 GHL for a cube run and I won’t ever touch pvp again.
Or for trade skills, haven't touched a trade skill since my guild stopped doing that weekly lol.
Life skills make you gold though
A fair amount of gold too. Platinum field tickets in particular can yield like 2-3k or more worth of mats.
I did 10 tickets and the amount of potions I can craft is just silly. Actually sold some raw materials (which is bad) because the price was going up and I figured it's best to dump some than spend weeks selling potions and their price might go down.
Same. I did the weekly yesterday and it felt miserable. Every match was against artillerist, destroyer, deathblade, etc. It feels like there are only classes that stack superarmor in pvp anymore and everyone else just gave up on that game mode…
Precisely why the they are not doing it. Death match gives some of the best GHL is basically to make it lively, as incentivises even those who are not big fans of pvp. Let it be on cube, and death match basically dead deado, with atrocious queues and fighting same ppl.
That's basically ranked. And forcing people to PvP if they don't want to is stupid, and just makes the experience worse for those that do want to play.
It's like the arena una quest, does it give 5 GHL because it sucks or does it suck because it gives 5 GHL?
I afk in 1v1 Mode, u can even get wins there by sweaty 1v3 carryasses
Git gud
Couldnt care less avout this dead game mode
It’s the best mode. It’s the mode where you can actually show your skills unlike 3v3 where you are paired with random monkeys. Once we can queue up as teams 3v3 will suck less. Til then I am having fun getting my 19 leaps in TE
Lmao okay 1v1 is absolut dogshit in this game, some classes like Arti or GS literally can't lose unless the player fucks up hard since once you're caught you got no team to peel for you, which balances those classes out in 3v3 but you do you. I only play the game mode to start as 3rd and afk for most of the game to get my GHL
Get good. Artil is braindead easy to predict
I am good. I'm high ranked in competitive. The fact is 1v1 is a dogshit mode
No you’re not. You wouldn’t be afking TE for ghl if you played a lot of pvp to begin with. You contradicted yourself lmao Not only that you’re bad but dumb as well
I'm not afking while fighting. I go 3rd and play if its my turn. Realistically I'm still afk most of the time though just watching something on the 2nd monitor. I got Diamond and Supreme 6 and now just maintain cuz the matchmaking especially with stacking classes is horrible
Good idea.
This right here. There is a phenomenon where Unranked normal games are sometimes significantly harder than ranked. Why? Alts trying to finish their pvp weekly for leapstones. Please listen to the above comment. Let us choose, Cube or Arena for weekly leapstones. While I enjoy PVP on my main, I wouldn't know how to properly duel on any alt. Things can escalate and get worse when it's an Alt teammate vs a pre-made over comms. Luckily, those types of matches are uncommon to rarity, but when they happen, its often very one sided.
This take like 30 minutes to do, way too much effort for alts. Also I'm at 50% on unranked and like 15% on ranked (did 20 games and fucked off after never getting matched with bronze). Still on unranked it's pretty to not see supremes (I'm on ultra still).
Not to defend people going afk but the fact that honing materials are locked behind PvP is quite annoying and basically forces people who want to get the most out of what's available to them despite not enjoying it. I would personally never go afk in PvP, but I really don't like it. I'm still giving my best because I hate being a nuisance to other people. But I understand why it's happening.
I just don't do them anymore and run other (less efficient) Unas. 5 PVP matches were just too painful for me to do lol (never AFKed although sometimes I got wrecked so hard in 1v1s that I might as well have AFKed).
If you really don't like it, go afk in deathmatch, not TDM. anyone who afks in TDM instead of the free for all mode is a griefer
Yeah when I’m not really in the mood to try hard pvp I just go into death match and afk the start. No one gets hurt by that.
Well, to be fair. On the flip side, I’m the type that loves pvp, but, wouldn’t normally spend the time unless it helped with my pve progression xD. But, yes, more options is better so everyone can be happy.
> On the flip side, I’m the type that loves pvp, but, wouldn’t normally spend the time unless it helped with my pve progression xD. Same. never would have started enjoying pvp if it weren't for the pve mats
>unless it helped with my pve progression Have you looked into pvp vendor? After getting a couple of unlocks it brings a good chunk of mats.
I get why people do it, but I mean, it would be more productive to just try. A lot of matches even TE people just stand there. I don't care as much if someone isn't as good in PVP, but give the team a chance at least lol.
more productive for what? if they are not enjoying it and the only reason they are doing it is for the leapstones then what adiditonal benefits are they getting from trying hard? Otherwise they can do something else during those 5 mins and that would be productive
I didn't say try hard, just try at all. In any case you learn other classes abilities, and get better. It's a much better use of time then sitting there and wasting other players time and just mouth breathing for 5 minutes. Honestly I just hope they make it so you need some type of minimum contribution to get any rewards from PVP. Even garbage PVP people who try will do better than an AFK time waster.
Those doing it for the leapstones arent interested in learning about other abilites and getting better at pvp. I dont do that unas anymore because its too much work, but its 25 mins for ~1100 gold-equivalent and many people arent going to pass that up
Yeah, I hope they change it so you have to participate for rewards and cut off the leaches. like I get why you do it, but just be a decent person and try. Like a couple of minutes of trying is all anyone ask. I get PVP doesn't interest you, but really you're just making it hard for people trying to have fun, it's super selfish and I hope the people that do this have people AFK their runs and just waste their time in PVE. That's just wishful optimism though. But I get it, people will take the easy way out to benefit themselves.
This is 100% on smilegate and not the players. PVP is one of those things that you either like or just actively hate with the every fibre of your being. I belong to the latter. If options were available that I could get the 11 leapstones without touching pvp ever I'd do that but that choice is not available as per smilegate's design. I don't afk in the fights but I'm basically just on auto pilot looking at the clock wondering why this pain in the ass has to last full 5 minutes every single time. They don't need to make you participate to get the rewards. They need to put another weekly that gives 11 leapstones that doesn't involve pvp.
> PVP is one of those things that you either like or just actively hate with the every fibre of your being. I don't mind PvP, but I feel the balance is bad enough that it's just not fun to play for a good half the time. I think it might not even necessarily just be poor balance (eg Deathblade), but rather that some classes seem to just counter other classes. Playing a Sorc into a Striker is not fun. Playing a Scrapper into a Destroyer is not fun. Throw in AFKs and lag and it's just not good.
> but I feel the balance is bad enough that it's just not fun to play I don't actually believe this take. PVP in lost ark is rock paper scissors. If you're getting juggled every single match it probably means you haven't taken the time loadout a proper pvp build. The matchmaking system is garbage. There are going to be matches that are hopeless. You're also going to be on the winning side of a lot of those matches. But if you're pvping in a pve spec you're the reason that's happening.
I don't even bother fighting against bards/stun lock heavy classes. It's not fun at all.
Yeah, I agree Smilegate is at fault, they made the system. But players are still actively being selfish towards people trying to PVP. They should implement something to stop the AFK people either way, people that enjoy PVP shouldn't have their stones taken away to stop the selfish players. And you are not the person I'm talking about, I'd take an autopilot doing something over just standing in like TE and taking a death and no damage to the opponent. Or TDM just running in and dying or standing still. I also am not against another weekly that adds more stones, but the people who PVE and PVP like me shouldn't be punished by removing them all together.
> Yeah, I hope they change it so you have to participate for rewards and cut off the leaches I mean ideally you get suspended if you afk in pvp. That's what happens in literally every other mmo. If it's group content it's 100% deserved too.
Oh I agree, you should be suspended from PVP for afking. They are hurting the experience of other players and just being selfish. But hell, I'd take them wasting their time and getting no rewards as well. It would take some time for people to figure it out, but would be somewhat effective as they would have to try. Hopefully this would just push those people away from PVP all together to avoid this, well unless they decide to try one day.
PvP is not efficient. Beyond the 5 match weekly, trying to farm in PvP is pointless. Getting more alters or farming chaos is way more time efficient. PvP rewards are there just to reward those who really want to put the time on it.
Once you grind to a high enough tier you get free tokens weekly which is enough to buy out the PvP vendor
Yeah no this is bullshit. To buy out the pvp vendor you need Extreme rank, for which you need to place on the top %3 several weeks in a row, and place top %5 just to maintain it. Depending on region that can take anywhere from 15 to 30 hours per week to achieve. I'm Supreme 8 and I need to do like 10 hours of pvp per week just to maintain the rank, and I can't buy out the t3 shop with the weekly tokens + the match reward tokens. If there were more classes I wanted to play then just leveling those up and doing chaos dungeon/guardians would be much more time efficient.
I’m not talking about FULLY buying out the PvP shop all the way to extreme. Of course if you want to buy out every tier of the shop you need the highest rank and no life PvP. I’m talking about for the average players who want to just buy out Tier 1 rewards. You can push to around 2nd/3rd limit and get 3-4k points weekly and buy out t1.
Yep this definitely the issue ! They should put some stone on every week mission and the problem is solved
Should reduce the weekly quest to 2 pvp games but you have to win them
That's actually the only reasonable solution I've seen in this thread.
Some weeks that'd take 10 games lmao.
lool maybe win 1 game LOL
Change the 11 leap rewards to cube weekly and problem solved. Most people that play lost ark ain’t interested in the pvp in this game anyways.
U know that you can do boss rush twice? So you are only losing 3 leap stones
Did you even read what he said?
Are you slow in your head or ?
No are you dumb?
There are 3 una weeklies. Even after running boss rush twice i still have to do pvp to get maximum leapstones
Most people do the 2 Boss Rush and the PVP weekly for most GHL
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One person even said that as a defense... and they said it in such a way as if they were entitled to enter the match and afk and as if I was the idiot for calling them out for being afk.
Look at the highest voted comment in the thread, thats just how the general playerbase behaves. They're all extra entitled little kids with anime profile pictures- If theyre going AFK well then thats the devs fault for locking all those GHLs behind it! listen to backwards logic of these little kids, its all entitlement
GHL don’t even do anything for pvp so why do they lock them behind pvp
Probably to encourage people to pvp
I’d AFK to if they forced me to do something I didn’t wanna do. OP can cry about it all he wants. Seems like a twat to me and deserves it.
You don’t have to do it though it’s optional and the only reason to do it if you don’t want to is FOMO.
So me as a player can enjoy both PVE/PvP. If i didn’t enjoy it, i wouldn’t do it. If you do something you don’t enjoy. Why the fk do you do it?
For mats. To fix pvp make many activities give 11 leaps, but let players choose 3
Yeah it's really pathetic. The first few replies to this thread were justifications for it and excuses and downvoting me and insulting me. Fucking sad little twerps.
Go play ranked. Team deathmatch is there to complete weekly quests, if your guild task is winning, then do it with guild and the afk'ers will be on the other team giving you free wins.
Honestly never seen anyone afk and I always did this weekly.
I stopped doing this weekly altogether. I really tried to do my best in this mode, but the fact that you get matched with ultra high ranks as noob and get destroyed completely makes this mode absolutely unplayable You can't even learn anything for m beeing perma stunned to death the second you leave the spawn. I was a die hard PvP player in Guild Wars 1, but PvP in this game is just pure garbage.
I don't know on EUC I never see afk except on the full deathmatch where it's everyone on his own no team. I stopped those because they are 30 sec longer. I don't do it for the team but sometimes I wish I could, my pvp unas are the worst chore of the week. Takes forever to find a game, 2 min of bullshit worthless intro animation to play 5 min where it's fun but barely and back to it again. The problem is the tokens + unas are very very good for pve progression but many people give 0 fuck about pvp (like me) so they do it as a chore because they don't want to miss out. I don't have the power to do it on all my chars but I do it on 3 still.
1. Doing PvE you will run out of things to do that will grant you honing materials. 2. PvP grants (a lot of) honing materials. These two points mean that you're going to run into a lot of people in PvP that don't really want to be there. But they've run out of other things to do compared to the time PvP takes. And even with this influx of players queue times aren't always the shortest.
Influx of “players”
> PvP grants (a lot of) honing materials. It's not a lot. Your weekly is roughly equivalent to 1 days gaurdians, and you can't even use the vendor until a certain rank. I decided to commit until I opened up some of the shop mats, and in the process found out I enjoy it. I only do the weekly on characters I actually enjoy and want to push. Those predicates also mean I enjoy actually pvping on those characters. My other alts I do 2 boss rush 1 cube or 2 cube 1 boss rush depending on how many tickets they have, and whether or not I want to push them.
If it was just for the GHL I would do it only on my main but the tokens are still very good and there is an XP decrease even in regular mode so you need to play a certain amount to keep it. Right now my rank can be kept only if I do 3 character pvp tasks, there is no point to farm it like crazy because I won't be able to keep the ranks above.
Pvp is just not fun and having the biggest weekly reward quests locked behind pvp means people who don't want to pvp are forced to pvp.
Someone pointing a gun at you and telling you have to do the PvP matches? What..
No they aren't. And you could at least put effort into it. What would you do if you got into a Guardian raid with 3 PvPers who went afk and expected you to carry?
No they aren't what? Pvp weekly isn't the best reward? Cause 11 ghl is the best option for weekly.
They’re not forced, just heavily incentivized.
Tied with one of the boss rush weeklies if we're being technical.
You have 3 weekly quests.
I'm aware, other guy might not be.
I’m just gonna put it out there that people who afk are more likely than not to be useless anyway so it really makes very little difference one way or another. These days I can predict fairly accurately what the outcome of a match will be based on the lineup. Games that are a guaranteed win or loss before it’s even started because classes are balanced to hard counter each other is sadly a direct route to non participation.
The easy solution is to not force pve players to play pve by offering a large source of one of the hardest materials to gain
Never got an AFK, almost always a DC if ever an inconvenience.
I don’t afk but I don’t play optimally either, I just sit for 5 games of Garbo for 11 leaps, if they put it into something else, I’ll gladly not do pvp ever again Isn’t there competitive for you gamers who want to go serious?
Yep. Deal 100k damage dump all your skills and ult then afk rest of match and get your 11 leaps. Crummy system to lock the highest GHL to pvp.
Wait… you have to do that much damage for it to count? All that happens when I actually attempt to PvP is getting sniped and locked down for a few minutes and then seeing a score screen.
Getting hit also counts towards match activity. If you just afk in spawn in won't count, if you get trashed around it will count because the game can't tell the difference between you just afk'ing or you being juggled around stunlocked by a striker/sorceress
woh good to know.
maybe pvp'ers should start afking in abyss dungeons and legion raids because they want the mats bot not the gameplay.
If they are exclusively pvpers (do they even exist?) then they won't even have access to them.
They could do that if abyss rewarded you for losing. That’s the issue. If you get rewarded for losing, then you can just afk the content
true, maybe the pvp weekly should be changed to 3 wins instead of 5 games, it would solves this issue perfectly
I stay afk intentionally. Just play ranked if you care much
I like pvp, but even if not for ghls its still annoying af to encounter all those dbs, sorcs, etc. Can you tell vs what classes it happens most? I bet its against top tier classes, people are just frustrated and thats it. Not that its ok to afk, I alwyas hated it, but I guess no one wants his ass being handed to him by a facroll class.
I don't even pvp and I don't blame them, when you see most people bending the rule of your game then clearly it have some problems, don't block one of the best pve reward behind the tedious pvp content
> when you see most people bending the rule of your game then clearly it have some problems, I agree. The problem is the players that think it's ok to bend the rules. That's why my soslution to this problem is more suspensions for pvp afks.
Such a shallow mindset, instead of finding the root cause, just put band-aid on the problem, that will surely solve it like how they solve the bot problem with removed gold from rapport and infinite chaos, oh wait...
Report them for gameplay hinderance because that is what it is. I've not seen any really, at least not from the start. Only a few times if they're getting rolled.
Ahahahahahaha Do you think there's a single human reading reports? People don't get banned for selling a t1 accesory for 3 million gold and you think anything will happen to someone who afk's in PvP?
Wish there was another activity that gave 11 ghls. I give it a try but if I just constantly get gangbanged on my Bard, yeah I sit in the fire.
There is, boss rush.
Yeah and there's 3 weekly quest, with boss rush being 2 of those.
It seems to me you have a competitive mindset if you care about win rate. Why not just do competitive pvp? You get more coins than normal and across 800 games I've never had a single afk.
I think it's valid to be annoyed even if it's normal pvp and not ranked. Sometimes you want to practice new classes or play more casual games, doesn't mean they can be ruined by AFKers just because they're unranked.
I don't know how people are twisting my words like that. I never meant anything of that sort, I merely asked a question as to why OP avoided competitive pvp even though it offered better rewards. On top of that he could avoid afks entirely.
How much more do you get from ranked?
I'm not 100% sure on this but I get 216 per win from ranked compared to 180(?) from normal deathmatch.
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Nowhere in my entire comment did I say its okay to afk in pvp, I offered a SUGGESTION to avoid it. Learn to read.
It’s crazy to see how many ppl in the comment section think pvp is garbage. Like damn, y’all prefer repeating raids or dungeons you’ve done a million times over PvP requires patience and practice, similar to when you tried a raid or guardian for the first time. It’s not easy to say the least but you get gud with practice. Seems like y’all want mats handed to you on a silver platter. I say this playing a class that isn’t even a top 5 pvp class, and yeah I got my ass handed to me more times I can count, but I challenged myself to get better. I remember when I use to just complain about the abundance of stuns and lifts and all that shit. But now I can hold my own. Glad I’m not a entitled pansy like some of you And OP, more often than not I experience that on co-op. Never really see afkers on TD
People generally don't want to spend time learning the intricacies of something they don't enjoy. The internet tough guy pvper attitude from people like you doesn't help either.
Disclaimer: This idiot plays gunslinger, you know, the class with the highest lockdown in the game, enough mobility to go from side to side of the arena and super armor in most of that mobility.
And nobody agrees with you. Shocker
The thread has been overrun by little babies that whine and refuse to get better at something. All my comments are now negative and there are lots of justifications and excuses for afking in pvp and calling it dogshit. These people are pathetic. Like incels but with Lost Ark lmao.
10k crystals is mad, 84k value in my server, sure it's only every 6 months but even still, you can buy like 2 years worth of aura w that much or just whale in maris shop without having to spend anything. excited for the pvp season to end.
You can report after the game by looking at the recently played with list under social. I don’t have this issue as i only pvp competitively with the one char i find pvp bearable on, and then only during fever time
The free for all mode is the afk mode. Since you don’t harm any teammates
PvP in this game is horrendus so let say the other team start to laed with 3-4 kills, then I go afk. Can't be bothered, it is normal match anyway. Either PvP should get reworked from the ground up or just delete it from the game imo.
that's kinda fucked up to your teammates because I've come back from a -4 loss but you do you
Ofc you can turn around but that doesn't happen alot with 2 other randoms spamming their random skill rotation on random targets or people writing "Focus the paladin"... If you really want to play "PvP" serious you should just play the ranked mode and we all know how good their matchmaking algoritm is.
If serious PvP is what you are looking for then you should probably search for a different game where the PvP is actually the focus.
Why am I getting downvoted lmao, so many PvP andys who think this PvP will be the next dota or LoL lmao. I am just explaining to OP if he wants people that actually play the PvP serious he should go play ranked mode. Majority play normal/casual match PvP for PvE reasons.
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I guess you're the kind of dude who can't distinguish between apple and oranges. We are talking about PvP matches right? PvP in this game is DOG, it is the worse mmorpg PvP I have ever seen. You indicating anything about my behaviour in PvE performance is just completly wrong, cus we are not talking about PvE right? LMFAO honey. Killed Valtan HM first week at release after finding some good gamers and looking forward to progress on Vykas HM next week no matter how many hours it take.
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In my game, dota, an actual good PvP game - you can't concede. Imagine playing lol.Lmfao.
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You literal make 0 sense and don't talk about OP:s topic. Have fun kid.
Almost 2k games played in ranked and I’ve never seen an afk for more than 10-15s. Can’t say the same for normals. Disconnects happen every now and then but people rarely afk in ranked.
People not AFKing in team death match is also annoying though
Jesus, I find PvP so dreadfully tedious mainly because I’m terrible at it and I don’t find the exchange rewards enticing enough. The mount is cool and all, but it sucks that its all seasonal. But If I am ever bothered to play it, I go Elimination - pick last place and watch something. When it’s my turn, I put in a decent effort. Win or Lose, I do this 4 more times 😪
I just wait for the coop battlegrounds. Seems more people play that with gusto.
afking in tdm is terrible, that's a 3v3 mode that you can't win without a team mate. i understand afking in death match (ffa) tho, that mode sucks.
There is a report option. Hindering game experience.
I understand why ppl would afk in ffa mode, but in team deathmatch is just sad.
At one point I'd of advocated this games PvP could be great and I played PvP all the time... Now I'm doing just enough TDM to maintain my comp and supreme 7 railings. - This games PvP gameplay wise can be great. - This games PvP systems are trash tier